Who else feels marginalized by mainstream politics?

I feel like we are fucked no matter which way we vote. On the "left", you have idiots like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders who want open borders insanity. You'll have migrants coming to the country in droves, they already are at like 1 million per year or so. And even if they are doing socially useful labour, they are consuming non-renewable natural resources like petroleum, minerals, etc, causing water fucking shortages, electricity fucking shortages, occupying LAND (which you can't make more of), gobbling up the supply of housing and commercial real estate. What the FUCK is this Chapo Trap House cuck bullshit? The United States and Canada have limited resources. We can't invite the whole fucking world here. The "left" is all about feels rather than reels. I say "left" because I know there are some Nazbols and some other fringe commies who understand that open borders is retarded.

Here in fucking Canada, you have Justin Trudeau adding 1 million to the Canadian population in like 26-28 months or whatever it was. Most of that from immigration and immigrants breeding. Adding a bunch of fucking useless eaters and shitters to our fucking country and our fucking planet period (breeders). Yeah maybe you are working but we don't fucking need your labour. We have a 61% employment rate in Canada. 60% in US. The labour force participation rate is super low. We are not using the people we already fucking have. So if you are coming here and you're not filling a legit skill shortage, you're basically a useless eater/shitter. We are putting so much stress on our natural resources and planet with this bullshit.

And on the other hand you have conservatives who advocate for policies that make the rich richer and poor poorer. And they want mass immigration anyways. USA still accepts like 1 million per year. Canada under Stephen Harper was doing 250,000+ per year. Not including temp workers. Cuck Andrew Scheer is apparently worse.

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NDP, that SJW Sikh leader is #metoo'ing the fuck outta his caucus. Fuck that guy. Fuck the NDP. I long for the old days of the NDP when they were for the Canadian working-class and not this SJW globalist shit.

USA and Canada are both finished. The United States of America and Canada are sold to the highest bidder. The politicians don't give a fuck about you or me. They only care about their corporate donors. And even if Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders don't take corporate PAC money, they are fucking retards who would destroy the country.

Fuck this bullshit. I'm gonna vote Green, they want to give us $20,000 CAD/year basic income. I wanna collect NEETBux and watch the world fucking burn. Fuck this shit. Enjoy the decline. Take the Black Pill.

I just don't care anymore, I just want to be left alone and not be taxed to death

You complain about useless eater/shitters but then go on to say you want 20k neetbux to be a useless eater shitter

Support Québécois secession and you’ll get separatism, ethnic nationalism and the Multicultural Question on the table for the rest of the world.

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>You complain about useless eater/shitters but then go on to say you want 20k neetbux to be a useless eater shitter
If this society is going to continue to fuck us over, then I might as well just milk the system for all its worth. Fuck it. Fuck giving my life to my employer, my fucking landlord. Fuck all this shit.

In the immortal words of Slipknot:
Fuck it all! Fuck this world!
Fuck everything that you stand for!
Don't belong! Don't exist!
Don't give a shit!
Don't ever judge me!

I support social democracy but for whites only and without the democracy part.

What a waste of digits. Neck yourself, kike.

>What a waste of digits. Neck yourself, kike.
You're calling me a kike yet you support this corporatist economy, which the kike excels at...

Trudeau is a cuck

The left is so polarized extremist figureheads lead the party in the US

I would argue Trump is a centrist, more like JFK than traditional Republicans.

>I support social democracy but for whites only and without the democracy part.
I just had a big fight with my sister. My only family doesn't give a fuck about me. The white race certainly doesn't give a fuck about me. Fuck people. Fuck society. Let it all fucking burn.

Too bad.

count your days Jew

>I would argue Trump is a centrist, more like JFK than traditional Republicans.
The economy is still garbage under Trump. The Unemployment rate is complete horse shit. And the cost of living in the metropolises is very expensive. Low cost of living in the Mid-West don't mean squat if you can't get a job and Big Pharma and the health insurance companies and private health care charge a fuck ton for health care. The wealthy own the country. If you are not born into wealth, there is a 99% chance you will be a slave to your masters until 65+.

I have a very stressful situation in my life recently where I got fucked over by a fucking Jew (long story, I don't wanna talk about it. At least not now) and was texting to my sister "that fucking jew rat", "Not all Jews are bad people but I wish Hitler finished the job on his ancestors." And all she could say was "I won't reply to you if you continue to be hateful". I called her a slave to the Jews. Said she will slave for them until 65, she is a slave to the Jewish bankers for her mortgage, etc. I called her a selfish cunt for caring more about her politically correct liberal hipster downtown Toronto bullshit ideology than my suffering. I think she disowned me. She hasn't replied. Fuck that bitch. If she wasn't my sister, people like her deserve to be Greektown'd.

disown her user, move on and start your own family

>disown her user, move on and start your own family
My parents made her and my brother (who I'm also on bad terms with) as the executor of their will. So if my dad dies, I am afraid that she will cut me out of the will. But as a matter of pride I couldn't hold back what I said to her. She doesn't give a fuck about me. I wonder if you could sue a sibling for trying to cut you out of your parents' will.

Fuck them, make your own money

This is why the Jews do so well. The tribe sticks together. White people fuck over their own family. Their own fucking family.

Well I can understand what you mean by that, luckily my family is very tight knitted and I intend on making my future family be just as tight knitted some day.

I have lost all faith in the future to ever want to bring life into this fucked up world. 95-99% of us are born into slavery. While the 1-5% can choose to live the NEET lifestyle at any time and only work for enjoyment, they don't work for survival. This system is fucked. And a disproportionately large percentage of the people on top are Jews and we are called anti-Semites for pointing this out. Meanwhile we have "white privilege". Why don't they check their Jewish privilege?

Leave Canada

>feels marginalized by mainstream politics
>when there is Trump

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>Leave Canada
I have thought about it. Canada is a fucking cancer. I can't even consider myself a civnat because this country fucks us over at every turn possible.

>feels marginalized by mainstream politics
>when there is Trump
What is Trump actually doing for the common man? You're still a fucking slave to the system working jobs that you hate to buy shit that you need. Like housing/rent. Food. Transportation, health care, etc. Meanwhile Trump is a billionaire who could live the NEET lifestyle at any time if he wanted to. Same with any other billionaire and multi-millionaire. This system is fucked.

He lives under Trudeau

In Canada there is not a single party I feel comfortable voting for due to my mixed political views. I am firmly a social conservative with centrist economic views who also supports economic nationalism to an extent. I am vehemently non-interventionist and sympathize with environmentalism.

The only real movement I support here is for electoral reform towards proportional representation. I know that there will never be a party I fully align with fully even in a PR system but there is a big difference between voting for a party which encompasses at most 50% of your beliefs and voting for one that has 70-80% of your views.

read up on the metropolis project by george soros

I feel your anger, but the holohoax was fake even though that hitler dislikes them he was still going to deport them to madagascar to be monitered.

I feel like I agree with the Democrats on most issues EXCEPT for immigration. I want a liberal society in which people can basically do whatever they want (porn, vidya, drugs) but we still need an immigration system that is strict. Why can't we have BOTH? why does it have to be one or the other?

>I feel your anger, but the holohoax was fake even though that hitler dislikes them he was still going to deport them to madagascar to be monitered.
Hitler should have rounded up every single Jew in finance and killed them down execution style. Instead they fled to the United States, Canada and Europe. And hooked their tentacles on the finance sector in the US, Canada, Europe, etc. and the legal sector, media, etc. And now we are in the situation we are in because of the Ashkenazi Jew diaspora from the 1930s-1940s.

I do not know being a civ nat is what the kikes want.

I'm not a Nazi. Not even a White Nationalist. I'm actually anti-racist. But you don't even have to fucking be white to understand that the Jews have been problematic everywhere they went. The Muslims know it. The African-Americans know it. Listen to Ice Cube's lyrics about his former Jewish manager. Fuck I'm sure the Japanese and Chinese have said something about Jews. Maybe even the Native Americans. Jews are hated by a lot of people worldwide.

Hopefully our countries wake up, tired of the fucking spics in this country and tired of the fucking magapedes shitting on this board.

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Then what's stopping the Pakis and Iranians from nuking Israel?

If you are able-bodied and not self sufficient, you are a spineless worm and a degenerate.

>If you are able-bodied and not self sufficient, you are a spineless worm and a degenerate.
Dude the system is set up to fuck over the working class. There are people in this society who never have to work a day in their life just because of who their parents are. Meanwhile there are people who work hard and live in poverty.

>Who else feels marginalized by mainstream politics?
if you don't realize Trump is a godsend, you are an idiot

but yes, Canada sucks

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You may think you are successful but if you need to work until 65+ to support yourself, you're a cuck (I include myself in that) and we're all getting cucked by the people in power. You're giving away the prime of your life to some employer. While rich trust fund kids don't actually have to work. They can just do what they actually enjoy. Not do what they are forced to do to survive. While giving a large cut to their masters.

We can't have a perfect political system since man was not created perfect, this is something we all where taught as children.

No perfect system exist for the unperfect man, therefore there will always be positive and negative consequences for every action / political standpoint we take.

In a way, politics is useless since there is always a losing part.
People like to live by each others happiness and not each others missery, but this is simply not possible in our world.

Therefore as Mika said it, Relax take it easy : youtube.com/watch?v=RVmG_d3HKBA

>if you don't realize Trump is a godsend, you are an idiot
how is he a fucking godsend? You are still slaving away for some employer (a large percentage of wish are Jewish owned) while trust fund billionaires and multi-millionaires can enjoy the NEET lifestyle and only work as a hobby to keep themselves stimulated.

Trump is starting to fix the problems King Nigger made, slowly but surely things will get better

>I feel like I agree with the Democrats on most issues EXCEPT for immigration. I want a liberal society in which people can basically do whatever they want (porn, vidya, drugs) but we still need an immigration system that is strict. Why can't we have BOTH? why does it have to be one or the other?
Because the politicians are bought off by corporate donors. The more donations you get, the bigger your megaphone. So politicians need corporate money in order to win elections as a general rule. And the corporations want mass immigration because they want cheap brown labour for obvious reasons. And they can conveniently tar anyone who is against mass immigration with the "racist" card. And the useful idiot SJWs unknowingly do their bidding for the capitalist class by calling you a racist for not wanting mass immigration.

>Trump is starting to fix the problems King Nigger made, slowly but surely things will get better
These problems existed in the Bush administration, the Clinton administration, the Reagan administration, the Carter administration... The USA hasn't had a strong "middle class" since the 1970s. I'm not defending Obama. I am critical of Obama. He's just a corporate puppet like anyone else. Including the Clintons.

>feels
we don't care about your feelings

>we don't care about your feelings
Be a willing cuck for corporate america then. Instead of wanting a black bull to fuck your wife, you want trustfund billionaires like Donald Trump to fuck your wife.

>I'm gonna vote Green
you deserve what you get

>I'm gonna vote Green
>you deserve what you get
Society is going to collapse no matter fucking what. Accelerationism is the inevitable result of whoever you vote for. So I want to be sedated with soma when shit hits the fan.

So because there is a little bit of injustice when it comes to social class, you're going to lift up your hands and relegate yourself to a life of begging and leeching. There is no better example of a weak-minded man than this. Without discipline and daily work you will never achieve anything to be proud of, you will lay on your deathbed wondering why you haven't built anything for your family or given your kids and their kids an example to follow. You will never have the respect of anyone you would want around you; reliable friends, successful colleagues, a good woman to make your wife. You will have nothing in your life that gives you a sense of achievement or fulfillment.

As far as wealth goes, you've probably never heard the saying that wealth never lasts more than three generations. This is because excess comfort and luxury have a higher tendency to create lazy children and lazy children or grandchildren eventually squander the wealth that their parents built. You are probably to young to have seen this happen yourself.

just keep voting for trudeau or NDP then, greens cant win

This is a problem.

I don't care about weed, I think abortion should be legal, and I will never, ever vote for democrats because they're destroying America by importing shitskins.

I vote for anti-immigrant white republicans, or I sit at home/vote 3rd party.

>So because there is a little bit of injustice when it comes to social class
a little bit?! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? There are people with multi-millions and billions and have so many options. And then there are the worker ants that serve them who are slaves for life. You're a slave and you don't even realize it. That's the saddest thing. You lack class consciousness.

>you're going to lift up your hands and relegate yourself to a life of begging and leeching.
There are people who have everything just by who their parents are... Don't use these shaming tactics against me cuck.
>There is no better example of a weak-minded man than this.
You're a bitch made faggot who sucks jewish corporate overlord cock

>Without discipline and daily work you will never achieve anything to be proud of, you will lay on your deathbed wondering why you haven't built anything for your family or given your kids and their kids an example to follow.
what's there to be proud of working hard for your jewish corporate overlords? and working for a family that doesn't give a single fuck about you. and birthing children into a life of slavery just to fulfill your narcissistic vanity project. having children in these dark times is the height of selfishness. and you're calling me selfish, go fuck yourself. Prepare to be gang raped by Muslims and niggers in the coming accelerationism leaf.

>You will never have the respect of anyone you would want around you; reliable friends, successful colleagues, a good woman to make your wife.
>The respect of whoYou will have nothing in your life that gives you a sense of achievement or fulfillment.
the respect of whom? Corporate cuckolds like you? The Jews and people who serve Jews?

>As far as wealth goes, you've probably never heard the saying that wealth never lasts more than three generations. This is because excess comfort and luxury have a higher tendency to create lazy children and lazy children or grandchildren eventually squander the wealth that their parents built. You are probably to young to have seen this happen yourself.
Have fun sucking that corporate jewish cock until 65+. You should just let Mr. Shekelstein fuck your wife. That's essentially what you are doing.

To add on this, at least normie whites seem to be slowly waking up.

The breitbart nu-conservative website's comments sections reminds me of here sometimes.

Fascinating that civic nationalism has reached its dead end so quickly.

>a tiny percentage of the population will never need to work so I give up on making anything out of myself.

Grow up, there is no such thing as a utopia or a perfect meritocracy. As someone who fled a communist shithole I can promise you that North American capitalism is the closest humanity has gotten to a meritocracy. In Canada and USA, any man with the discipline to learn a trade and work Mon-Fri will earn himself at least 80-100k annually regardless of his personal politics cause no one cares what you think on the construction site as long as you get shit done.

Marxism doesn't work. The sooner you learn that the sooner you will gain some self respect and snap out of your degenerate mode of thinking.

>As someone who fled a communist shithole
Eastern Euro Asheknazi jew rat in Canada detected

>North American capitalism is the closest humanity has gotten to a meritocracy.
North American capitalism actually worked far better in the 1950s-1970s when it was REGULATED by the government. It's getting a lot worse now. Millennials can't even buy a fucking house. Rent through the roof.

I agree with you on most of what you are saying. I also worked for a bunch of jews (before I knew about pol), and those people were absolute psychopaths who used obfuscation, lies, and deception as naturally as a fish uses its fins. I didnt even know they were jewish until long after I realized there was something very very very wrong about those people.

But you're absolutely letting them win if you don't have a family. Nothing is scarier than the prospect of dying alone. The only thing we can do is try to avoid contributing to the system as much as possible.

I would do that if I could look myself in the mirror while I my career literally depended on the constant flow of "new Canadians". You're literally just as cancerous as the fucking bankers.
no shit

Jesus young man, have I hurt your pride that much? Listen you clearly have no experience of what marxism or socialism are like in practice, if you did there would be no way you would not be so cucked. As I said before, I know personally what degeneracy socialism leads to. Also, racism and neetism are not compatible ideologies (for retards maybe). You consider yourself better as a white man but you are proud to leech from the state, how do you reconcile this you fool?

>You're a bitch made faggot who sucks jewish corporate overlord cock

I'm an independent contractor who making a descent living for myself with nothing but my tools and honest sweat.

Honestly I'm so curious to see what you look like in person. Malnourished with shit posture I assume.

>I agree with you on most of what you are saying. I also worked for a bunch of jews (before I knew about pol), and those people were absolute psychopaths who used obfuscation, lies, and deception as naturally as a fish uses its fins. I didnt even know they were jewish until long after I realized there was something very very very wrong about those people.
Yeah, Jewish businessmen are the biggest fucking slimeballs. I don't want to go into details here but I got fucked out of a five figure amount of money by a Jew in a business dealing. I'll leave it at that. This isn't going to make me 14/88 but I am feeling extremely anti-Semitic right now. I wish I could just pour Zyklon B down his fucking throat without going to jail.

>Nothing is scarier than the prospect of dying alone.
I don't care at this point. I will die on my death bed with iPad and/or iPhone in hand. I will die sedated. People don't give a fuck about each other. Electronics and pets are better than people. I hope North Korea or ISIS blows us up. I would rather the Muslims or North Korea win than the Jews win. I've taken the Black Pill.

Don't let them make you angry. It'll just hurt you in the long run. I got fucked out of 8 months of my life, and about 20gs, and it ruined my career. I ended up giving myself a serious injury due to the stress of it. Seriously don't let it make you angry.

>I'm an independent contractor who making a descent living for myself with nothing but my tools and honest sweat.
>Honestly I'm so curious to see what you look like in person. Malnourished with shit posture I assume.
Independent contractors are not really independent. They are a slave to the people they contract with. Market forces (and who do you think controls the market forces?) Bankers. What have you.

I'm an independent contractor as well for my side hustle and I just got fucked over by a kike for a five figure amount. There you go. I won't go into detail here. I may not be a white nationalist. But I've been aware of the Jewish Question for at least a decade. And more aware of that now than ever after getting fucked over by a Jew.

>This isn't going to make me 14/88
ya, me neither. I still cant bring myself to hate them all, even after what happened. I think its the ones that use english or german names like you need to worry about. A full jew name like steinberg or whatever suggests theyre not trying to hide anything.

*like miller, or werner

Nazi white supremacist! We need to help these people! It's because of our imperialism they need help. How can you have such hate in your heart. They will work harder than any native born. We need them for the economy to do better.

Like if I mention who fucked me or say too much, he or someone who knows him could read this and doxx me. And I don't want to be known publicly as an anti-semite. Because that will fucking ruin you in Canada as far as employment prospects go and maybe even get you prison time for inciting racial hatred. The Jews run this country.

I used to be really against Muslims. But there is no such thing as "white unity". Beyond the fringe elements like the KKK, neo-nazis, etc. The only opposition against the Jews in Canada will come from Muslims.

A lot of people hate Muslims here. But 9/11 was an attack of the financial heart of America. The attack of financial Jewry. So 9/11 was the one thing the Muslims did right.

>The economy is still garbage under Trump. The Unemployment rate is complete horse shit.

This is a key point lost on magatards. I see "now hiring" signs at fast food joints and Walmart, but those jobs suck. Additionally, Trump is a retard for advocating "growth" as a top metric when also seeking to limit immigration. Well. obviously more actors in a system = more economic activity.

I still don't feel like Western problems are too deep though, even if they are getting wider. If the U.S. just
>scaled backed military operations abroad
>spent more on infrastructure, especially roads and railroads
>limited immigration
>reformed the school system and made college a meritocracy again

All that of course is a lot, but none of it is insurmountable.

>there is no such thing as "white unity"
There is, but it's subconscious. As "multiculturalism" becomes an unavoidable part of everyday life, people naturally associate more with the people they have predictable interactions with.

Look at the at Trayvon 2.0 shooting in Florida recently. A white man told a black that she was illegally parked in a handicapped space and her black boyfriend reacted violently, earning a bullet in the chest.

In "white" society, civil discourse is done via polite discussion at the parking lot level.

>This is a key point lost on magatards. I see "now hiring" signs at fast food joints and Walmart, but those jobs suck. Additionally, Trump is a retard for advocating "growth" as a top metric when also seeking to limit immigration. Well. obviously more actors in a system = more economic activity.
>I still don't feel like Western problems are too deep though, even if they are getting wider. If the U.S. just
>All that of course is a lot, but none of it is insurmountable
Yeah constant growth in the American (and Canadian, though Canada has grown a lot slower in the last decade or so I believe) economy is just not sustainable. Wasn't Japan's growth pretty static for the past 20+ years? The "Lost Generation". Japan invented the NEET ffs. Japan also doesn't rely on mass immigration. Which probably has a lot to do with the stagnant GDP growth there. I think GDP growth has ticked up in Japan as of late though.

>There is, but it's subconscious. As "multiculturalism" becomes an unavoidable part of everyday life, people naturally associate more with the people they have predictable interactions with.
>Look at the at Trayvon 2.0 shooting in Florida recently. A white man told a black that she was illegally parked in a handicapped space and her black boyfriend reacted violently, earning a bullet in the chest.
>In "white" society, civil discourse is done via polite discussion at the parking lot level.
What you are describing is what fear against the other. Not necessarily "white unity". White people don't give a fuck about each other. White people are happy to step on other white people to get ahead. Hence the constant "tell me why you deserve $15/hr" threads. Right-wingers don't care about poor whites. They don't care about the fact that people are being priced out of the housing and rental markets. So as long as it's not happening to them.
A growing number of white people are turning to opioids and just pointing a gun or knife in someone's face and jacking them for cash to buy more drugs. Because they have long ago realised that society doesn't give a fuck about them. So they might as well just live for themselves too. Accelerationism is coming. Hard and fast. It's not just coming from racial minorities. But disenfranchised white people.

That was always a common "white" cultural dynamic though. In the U.S. South, the ruling class Whites were fiercely protective of keeping their blacks, even blocking an attempt to annex the Dominican Republic so the former slaves had a place to move to (Santo Domingo Plan under Grant).

At the same time, the white ruling class clearly preferred to associate with fellow whites in the hierarchy - white overseers, managers, etc.

This is old style feudalism. Really what made "white" unity was specifically nationalism, which is being killed from ever being a possibility in the future given multiculturalism.

It's a widespread problem. Recently in Argentina, the White population was largely in favor of allowing abortion, but the lower IQ more religious migrant indios were almost uniformily opposed.

Eventually white people will realize the association with the political ethos they want in a country and the ethnic makeup of said country. I suspect in 100 years or so, most of the planet's whites will congregate somewhere. Maybe Canada, as climate change opens the norther expanses. Or maybe Southern South America. Present day borders will not last, that's for sure.

>Recently in Argentina, the White population was largely in favor of allowing abortion, but the lower IQ more religious migrant indios were almost uniformily opposed.
LOL. The impoverished indios in Latin America would benefit more from abortion than the whites there. Christcucks fascinate me. They go against their own self-interests.

they've all been corporate puppets, it all goes back to 1913 and wilson pawning off the collective society of america to the bankers for the 3rd time. JFK was the only one to identify the problem and while you know how that story ended up

>JFK was the only one to identify the problem and while you know how that story ended up
Exactly. Anyone who stands up to the people in power is going to meet the same fate.
Somewhere down the line after the advent of agriculture, a handful of people in society have managed to accumulate large amounts of wealth. And the masses stood by idly while they allowed this to happen. And this is why we are in the situation that we are in.

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Capitalism is very beneficial to the Jews. Because capitalism is designed to lead to wealth accumulation in few hands due to something called "compound interest." The Talmud instructs Jews to rule over the goyim via usury (interest). A system that is designed to accumulate wealth into the hands of very few people is perfect for a small ethnic group like Jews. The Jews invented capitalism. Adam Smith talked about capitalism but he did not invent it. Capitalism has been going on since the Iberian Jews escaped to Amsterdam to start up banks. Since the Netherlands, being Protestant, had more lax regulations on usury compared to Spain and Portugal, Catholic countries that forbid usury. As ordered by Jesus Christ. Who banished the Jewish money lenders from the temple.