Are cigarettes really as bad as (((they))) claim? When I was in Taiwan, I noticed that A LOT of men smoked...

Are cigarettes really as bad as (((they))) claim? When I was in Taiwan, I noticed that A LOT of men smoked, and apparently they also live longer than people in the US, so...

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yes, cigarettes are bad for you, but when it comes to longevity genetics really fucking trumps all

iirc the worlds oldest ww2 vet is 112 years old and still chain smokes cigars every single day.

Yes, they're terrible for you.

Congratulations: you demonstrate that anecdote are worth nothing compared to evidence.

They increase test.

Pros: Clearer head, brain stimulant, more rooted, less emotional, bigger balls, social smoking is still a thing

Cons: After a while you lose your breath easier, (((expensive))), a lot of unnecessary shit in them besides tobacco, potential for addiction if you're retarded

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It's been firmly established time and time again that it's bad for you, to a point that tabacco companies have run their own independent tests in hopes of finding some kind of positive effect but consistently found that even if there were (they found none), the negative effects were numerous and detrimental.

Is it exaggerated? Yeah. But it is undeniably one of the dumbest fucking things you can do to yourself, and the only people who defend it are fag suckers who have given up quitting their addiction due to weak constitution and want to deflect as hard as they can. Anecdote is literally their only friend.

Solution: buy pure tobacco and roll your own

all i can go on is anecdotes. but the smokers in my family actually lived longer than the nonsmokers, even with cancer

my personal theory is that properly burning off stress is the key to long life

Your lifespan is set VERY firmly in your genetic makeup and how your body deals with junk protein buildup and damage.

The most you can really do is extend the curve of good health up to your expiration date with a give/ take of a decade at most.

But its better to put it this way: Smoke your lungs into tar pits and wheeze to your grave or drop dead of cardiovascular issues that would have claimed you not 5 years later in relatively good health because you exercise.

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That's not a solution.

How healthy or unhealthy is chew relative to smoked tobacco?

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Cigarettes give you cancer by vaping makes you a cancerous person. I'd rather smoke an occasional cigarette than vape desu.

I'm on my phone, ill come back in like half an hour and try and post the article. Anybody ever see the Joe Vialls article on tobacco smoking?

Btw, you can get most Vialls articles from archive.org, not aĺl though. They are fascinating.

I will add here quick that i know it fucks up your breathing if you smoke on the reg, but everybody here should read Vialls article if they can, its a gòod one.

if you depend on sucking on a stick like a fucking flamer to function, youre not a man

I thought Mores went out of production in the early 80s no?

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Chew is ten times worse.

All I know is that my breathing has improved and my ability to smell has also improved.

vaping helped me and my dad quit cigarettes. he's very stubborn, too, and never thought he'd quit his pack a day habit.

That my brand f smokes, they dont have the brown paper anymore.

Cons: COPD is a terrible way to die

You yanks die to eating like shit and not exercising. Nothing to do with cigs

Cigarettes are good for you.

My grandfather had a theory that if you've been smoking for any extended period of time that you should never quit because that's when the sicknesses set in

foxnews.com/health/2011/04/12/clinic-claims-smoking-cures-cancer-emphysema.html
>At the Griya Balur clinic, doctors not only claim smoking cures cancer, they also claim it cures autism as well.

we need this

Quitting cigarettes was the best thing i ever did. I didnt know just how bad smoking was holding me back until i went a week without them. I will never smoke a cigarette ever again.

>be my 16yo grandmother
>Meet grandpa
>get pregnant
>have kids
>decides to cheat shortly after
>meats many sugar daddys who "take care of her" over the years
>picks up smoking from years of bar surfing
>looks go fast as seen in photos
>looks 90 in her 30s/40s
>finds a much older, chad, bar dweller to stick it in her /lunch her death out
>happily marry
>Bar dweller gets sick
>the smokes gave him the cancer
>dies
>60yo grandma now crys regularly and complains of loneliness
>remembers grandpa
>trys to get back in his life with the help of their children
>grandpa has been living the life of a bachelor
>goes on a cruise
>returns with girlfriend half his age but looks half her own
>grandma stalks grandpa's Facebook and vents to her daughter's
> "Its so wrong, why can't be to with a woman his own age!?"
>starts to feel I'll
>goes to doctor
>breathing problems
> "I have no idea what could be wrong doctor, my mom had really bad asthma, might i have it too?"
>doctor tells her it's smoking related and she needs to stop
> "Nope! It's athsma!"
>continues to smoke and uses oxygen tanks and inhalers to live a "comfortable" life
>health continues to go down hill
>finally admits it's the cigars
>says rolling her own is healthier and is actually helping her breath
>loses the remaining teeth she had to smoking related stuff
>claims men are live
>grandpa stalking intensifies
>calls him drunk on his 70th birthday
> "You still with that decent woman?"
> "yep"
>gets about how shitty he is to her


Smoking can kill you in a lot of ways but it seems the people that do it deserve the slow burn.

Yes, however, genetics also play a huge role - possibly even larger than anything you can actively "do" to prevent cancer.
This doesn't fit in the liberal world view however, where people are in charge of their destiny, when factually their fate has been pre-determined at birth.

Note to everyone. Never buy a fire tablet, it has the worst form of auto correct I've ever seen. reuping my post to be more coherent.

>>be my 16yo grandmother
>>Meet grandpa
>>get pregnant
>>have kids
>>decides to cheat shortly after
>>meats many sugar daddys who "take care of her" over the years
>>picks up smoking from years of bar surfing
>>looks go fast as seen in photos
>>looks 90 in her 30s/40s
>>finds a much older, chad, bar dweller to stick it in her /punch her teeth out
>>happily marry
>>Bar dweller gets sick
>>the smokes gave him the cancer
>>dies
yo grandma now crys regularly and complains of loneliness
>>remembers grandpa
>>trys to get back in his life with the help of their children
>>grandpa has been living the life of a bachelor
>>goes on a cruise
>>returns with girlfriend half his age but looks half her own
>>grandma stalks grandpa's Facebook and vents to her daughter's
>> "Its so wrong, why can't he to with a woman his own age!?"
>>starts to feel I'll
>>goes to doctor
>>breathing problems
>> "I have no idea what could be wrong doctor, my mom had really bad asthma, might I have it too?"
>>doctor tells her it's smoking related and she needs to stop
>> "Nope! It's athsma!"
>>continues to smoke and uses oxygen tanks and inhalers to live a "comfortable" life
>>health continues to go down hill
>>finally admits it's the cigarettes
>>says rolling her own is healthier and is actually helping her breath
>>loses the remaining teeth she had to smoking related stuff
>>claims men are pigs
>>grandpa stalking intensifies
>>calls him drunk on his 70th birthday
>> "You still with that decent woman?"
>> "yep"
>>crys about how shitty he is to her

Yes, they are bad for you. They cause shortness of breath, give your body added aches and pains, destroy your sense of taste and hamper your sense of smell. Smoking makes your hair, clothes and body smell like an ashtray. It makes your teeth go yellow brown and increases your chances of having dentalmpain and mouth sores. Smoking discolours the paint on your walls at home, makes your house and car small like an ashtray. Smoking in bed or in the evening increases your chances of having a house fire.

If you want to use nicotine, there are better ways if getting it than via cigarettes.

I hate vape culture but vaping doesn't seem to be all that bad for you as long as you avoid the shady vaporizers produced by Chinese factories also making lead paint and uranium watch hands.

>Smells like shit
>Tastes like shit
>Must be good for you

Good goys, buy our cancer sticks for a mere $100 a carton!

>Smoking in bed or in the evening increases your chances of having a house fire.
Smoking is awful, but you're really stretching it with that argument. Cooking also increases the chance of having a house fire.