I am not left leaning, I am just curious what impact having open borders can do to a country. Would it be better if the world was one humongous country and people could go any where without citizenship?
Can you explain to me how open borders is bad?
Christopher Young
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Asher Robinson
leave your door open, see for yourself
Nicholas Ross
Jesus christ you can't be serious?
Levi Watson
most people in the world are brown retards who will vote for socialist gibs and have no concept of personal responsiblity
most people in the world should not exist.
Christopher Lopez
Let me spell it out for you
If most people where kind hearted then yes
In that fucked up perfect dream world
Yes we all would want open borders
Kys faggot holy shit
Mason Gonzalez
People from different parts of the world have different cultures with different beliefs and values. Different races have different abilities and tend towards different cultures as well. Mixing multiple cultures and races together gets you about what you would expect; everyone vying for control until either one group wins in totality of the nation fractures.
You want a one world government, okay how would you go about doing that? Would it be a democracy? That would put you in a nation where 1/7 is Muslim, 1/7 is Chinese, 1/7 is Indian, do you think those people are going to value what you value or govern in your interests? Homogeneous communities have more trust because you implicitly realize you can trust those who are more like yourself, you understand their motivations and beliefs.
Oliver Baker
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Nicholas Sullivan
Nations are comprised of individuals, They are the makeup of the nation. A nation is only as successful as it's citizenry. So imagine you have a nation of sub 70 IQ low agency high time preference individuals immigrate to your society which values high iq and low time preference. These individuals would fail in your society, Go onto welfare and drain resources from the population that set up the society in the first place bringing down the quality of life for everyone involved, Also creating conflict and a class system based around racial lines, Essentially you have brought misery to a successful society and created racial tension by forced intergration.
If you allow free immigration from places like africa and india and certain parts of south america you will destroy the culture and society of those who are successful. they will be outbred and replaced with more low agency high time preference people. You have essentially created a dysgenic system.
Isaac Robinson
This shit is kind of obvious, you should be able to figure out why your question is stupid, but lemme give you some answers anyway.
People are just gonna migrate to where the most resources are, Language barriers, criminals roaming freely.. Human trafficking???
Evan Collins
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Easton Wilson
based jew
Tyler Edwards
We already have too many fucking people. Automation is already going to gut the job market. We don't need more too many fucking people. The more we have, the more likely a genocide or a sweeping sterilization program becomes mandatory. Or global war to wipe out other nations, kill their people, and claim the land for living space.
Juan Green
Every first world country with no borders would get swamped by people from the third world thus eventually turning your once great civilization into ruins.
Jack Rodriguez
It will destroy delicate ecosystems. parasites from the third world will bring diseases to Western Nations and destroy local plants and tree-life.
Austin Hill
This question itself is loaded, To explain why it is bad I have to explain a number of different things, Racial identity, Agency, IQ, Social Cohesion, Resource scarcity.
If you want the answer for retard babies i can give you that.
RICH SMART PEOPLE MAKE THINGS, DUMB PEOPLE GO TO RICH PEOPLE SPOT AND TAKE THINGS. MAKE MANY BABY, NOW DUMB PEOPLE RUN RICH SMART LAND, EVERYTHING GO POO POO.
Nathaniel Bennett
We're full, fuck off.
Bentley Martin
Open borders is happening anyway, half the black males in the world are heading west.
Nobody tries to stop them.
Benjamin Sanchez
If every country on Earth would have a high standard of leaving, every citizen would be educated and the male to female ratio would be 1:1, then open borders wouldn't be such an issue. But this will never happen.
Ryan Ross
The answer is simple. Look at the people pushing for it and what they stand for, and think of how it would feel to have those people having more authority in your child's future than you or your child do. Do you want a future where someone with a completely foreign notion of morality has the same input on how you live your life as people who care about you? Fuck no.
Christian Reyes
this
Jordan Johnson
A multicultural society can exist but if it takes a significant blow, all the different factions scatter along tribal lines. There can be no true cohesion like there can be in a ethnostate
Austin Harris
>Would it be better if the world was one humongous country and people could go any where without citizenship?
Only works if everyone shares the same social and cultural standards.
Colton Brooks
>I am not left leaning, I am just curious what impact having open borders can do to a country. Would it be better if the world was one humongous country and people could go any where without citizenship?
Terrorists, criminals, baby daddys would love that.
Jeremiah King
Close but it can't just be social and cultural, It must also be racial, You can't have freedom of movement amongst people if those people are significantly different from eachother, The more the different the more disastrous the results.
Bentley Lopez
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Asher Robinson
>implying shitskins are human
sage
Adam Anderson
Jaxon Hughes
in truth open borders is fine that was the US policy until 1914. the problem comes when you have open borders and a welfare state. without welfare only those who can support themselves will come to the new country with welfare you become the worlds outflow pipe, just look a Europe right now.
Joshua Nguyen
Look how Seattle and Portland OR are dealing with their homeless invasion. Now extrapolate this to a national scale.
Julian Morgan
wtf i love jews now
Joshua Miller
LOW IQ IMMIGRATION IS KILLING THE WEST YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
Jayden Ortiz
Dont be an idiot. Never trust a kike.
Austin Smith
This OP isn't even trying to discuss this with anyone. No need for everyone to post their opinion if nobody is challenging them, useless thread
Easton Brown
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Camden Phillips
How would you control a pandemic without a border?
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Dominic Perry
>the problem comes when you have open borders and a welfare state.
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Tyler Walker
Do you leve your front door open at night?
Why not?
Connor Green
Your culture, your history, your genetic kin will go down the way of the dodo.
Thomas Cooper
No. This isn't rocket science. How can you not understand these simple concepts of borders and illegal aliens?
Joshua Howard
Let a smelly literally insane homeless person share your home and you support them with your money and you clean up after them for a few years and you might know why we dont want the equivalent on a much larger scale
Isaiah Price
>water is the spice of life
Lucas Ross
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Aaron Flores
You can hide in my attic any day, shlomo
Samuel Rodriguez
its to protect the migrants actually. a free nation where people are allowed to murder wont be so nice to outsiders
Henry Campbell
because a lot of people are idiots or savages or both, and borders exist to keep them away so they don't overrun the native society
Colton Davis
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Angel Hernandez
The United States, a very few select European countries and Australia, Canada and New Zealand form a unique group of nations that have been successful because of their value systems and culture. It’s extremely specific and mostly based around biblical principles of living like hard work and private property, british common law, the English language and a few other things that are completely alien to 5 billion other people on this planet. Look at the rest of the world outside of the countries listed and a few Asian countries and it’s a fucking unmitigated disaster. When you just open up the borders completely you’re opening your country up to the values of these billions of other people. They’re just going to come to wealthy nations and leech off the more successful.
Jordan Ward
Each countries rule of law is defined within its borders. No borders, no rule of law, chaos.
Michael Brooks
I'll lower temp in oven just for you.
Grayson Morris
>get flooded by third world in an instance
>the wages decline, hurting the common worker because of plentiful supply of unemployed
>huge swathes of extra mouths to feed burden social welfare
>crime on the rise with unassimilable third worlders starting to act out on their frustrations
>the different cultures and mindsets will start conflicts
Libshits are stupid.
Henry Davis
>why is it bad goyim?
On the most basic level this.
1) Open borders depresses workers rights by over supplying the labour market with cheap illegal labour. Employers therefore have no incentive to guarantee workers rights or raise wages or even to hire local
2) Because these people arrived illegally they cannot register themselves for fear of incrimination, this means these people are not paying the taxes they should be or providing information that they should to ensure they do not receive more support than they should.
3) With more people coming into the country and with no deterrence, open borders means a strain on public services, such as law enforcement, doctors available and hospital waiting times, placements and overcrowding of local schools.
4) Because these people technically do not exist in government registers and statistics, the government cannot reliably plan for the increases in people nor can they properly budget for the services they actually need. Tax revenues do not meet actual expenditures and society as a whole suffers from not receiving the support and services it should. This means illegal immigrants are literally destroying the system of government that is meant to be providing services for legal citizens and residents.
Open borders is therefore an open attack on legal citizens and residents and denies them of the right to services and support that they have paid for with their own taxes. It destroys the society by allowing people who are not entitled to those services to consume them at everybody else's expense. It is an attack on workers rights, an attack on law and order, an attack on society's resources.