White Nationalist Christians of Jow Forums, convince me to become a Christian. White Nationalist Pagans of Jow Forums, convince me to become a Pagan. I am coming from a background of a largely agnostic youth and since awakening to the cause, I have realized the importance of faith. I am still unsure what to choose though.
For ethnic background if that is a consideration in faith, I am half Italian, half Anglo. The main choice of paganism would likely be Roman Paganism, and if I were to become a christian, I would likely choose Catholicism.
All the feel-good pagan rituals wrapped in the life and love of Christ, plus the added bonus of the rejection of Vatican II and hatred of the cursed Jews.
>Don't steal >Don't murder >Don't worship false gods >Don't lie >Don't trust Jews >Obligations to Race, Nation, and God
Best life.
Liam Edwards
>choosing to believe in something for reasons other than "this makes sense and is probably real" user, why?
Jose Rodriguez
You can't force a faith, user. This is why the whole Pagan vs Christian threads piss me off so much.
I should have clarified more. I find values in both catholicism and paganism. It's not just that I know faith is beneficial, it is also the fact that I am guided to both of these religions for their own respective reasons.
Hudson Johnson
Fuck both. Become a Zen Buddhist or at the very least start meditating to understand the Tao.
Jace Brooks
>taking fairy tales literally Please try to remember that the outlandish fairy tales and magic tricks were used to help the uneducated masses understand the way of life being described therein.
Consider how stupid the general public is, now consider how stupid they'd be without education and the internet. That was the target audience of the fairy tales - men and women that mentally were barely a step above infants.
Aaron Lewis
Judaism, the original Abrahamic religion. A handbook for building a nation and a religion out of tribes of slaves, who will never lose their identity from the on, no matter what they'll go through.
Cameron Wright
You can't CHOOSE a faith idiot You have a choice between larping as Varg Vikernes and believing nothing while looking like a retard being too traditional for showers or toilet paper but spending hours on the internet every day
Paganism >embarrassing >clearly LARPing >gods have been effectively dead for thousands of years >gods were not strong enough to resist christianity >futile effort to recover something long since lost
Christianity >worship the weak and the sick >respond to aggression with nonviolence >precursor to progressivism >jesus the angry virgin protestor was probably a closet gay >history of the christian church is a long string of priests trying to prevent peasants from utilizing the bible to its full commie effect >believers routinely forced to do extensive mental gymnastics to justify forsaking jesus' spiritual world in favor of the material world
>Judaism >can choose how pozzed/ultratrad you want the experience to be >gain enormous power to squash your enemies with anti-semite charge >gain access to power via extensive jewish nepotism >free israeli passport for when your homeland becomes a shitty 3rd world country >become empowered to "deconstruct" judaism from within at home by converting other goy and making the distinction meaningless
Choice is extremely obvious
Tyler Jackson
But wait there's more. >But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. >Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
Okay OP. Hear me out. Pagan larpers are fun and games when criticising shit and roleplaying as whites to bring the perceived “non-whites” down. Assuming they would get their way they gonna all gather, revel and wait for the sunset to bring... fuck all. Christianity has positive values. It models family, relations between man and a woman, elders and the young. It models compassionate society without greed and usury, yet with brotherly concern and unrelenting judgement.
>inb4 hurrr durr go adopt some niggers
Jesus teaches us to judge people by the fruit of their actions. Degenerates and thugs are offered a lifewheel but no free shit.
Sebastian Anderson
The older I get, the more I look at religious people with contempt.
To out it in perspective, picture somebody talking about how they worship Hercules and pray to Zeus every day. I'm pretty sure you would think that person is crazy. This is how religious people look like to me. Christianity, Judaism. Its all the same. Insane beliefs in myths. No sane person would believe in that shit and especially since we know for a fact how the religions started and know they were manufactured. Especially Christianity we know how it was made and why certain elements were added and what the purpose of it was. And STILL people believe it and honestly have faith in it.
You people will never be more than Thor worshipping fools
Nathaniel Brown
Religion doesn’t matter on an individual level, only on a social level. You need to go interact with those communities in person to figure it out.
Jayden Nelson
What you say is mostly appealing, but still, what if some brown people came along and were perfectly nice people. I still wouldn't want them around, as their presence negatively effects the preservation of Europe, culturally and ethnically. What does Christianity say about that kind of thing as goes the acceptance of foreigners?
This is a genuine question just in case there was any doubt, I am here to learn, and not to confront.
Robert Anderson
read the Bible, start going to church, find yourself a religious qt3.14
Circumcision of the penis has a mystical dimension that is explained more in depth in Kabbalah. The body is the mirror of the inner Kingdom - you may know it as the Tree of Life. The sidelocks are a symbol for the divine paths of channels that connect the supernal Sephirah to those underneath in the lower world and ensure the Infinite Light of Revelation is circulated down to maintain lower worlds in existence. Things are much more complex than they appear from the outside.
Camden Peterson
Pagans: banged each other after battle and lived in huts Christians: followed the Way, conquered the entire world and lived in castles.
How is this a discussion? If you're not Christian, you're not white.
Joshua Sullivan
Topkek
Juan Powell
This.
Adam Perry
Are you keks actual traditional Pagans or romanticised, women lead Neo-Pagan larpers? How was it morally right for VIKANGZ to go around and rob fellow white inhabitants of Europe? Do you consider slavery to be righteous and kidnapping women from neighbourhood to be used as sex slaves your right, like nogs do in the US and South Africa all the time? Is raping others morally righteous in your opinion?
What kind of God commanded morals do pagans even have lmao? Are you going to follow your ancestral traditions and conduct human sacrifices on regular bases in time of celebration to receive blessing from Odin and other gods? Did you kek even know that Odin demanded you to sacrifice 9 person for every 9 years as per Ynglinga's saga? And that Viking chieftains did even murder their own sons to receive longer life from gods?
If Paganism is superior to other religions, why is the practise dead in Europe? Why is it only such shitholes as Amazons and African jungles where pagan traditions are alive and ruling their KANGZ societies? How did Christian steal your traditions when your own ancestors chose to convert their ritual habits for embracing Christ?
>If you're not Christian, you're not white. Well said my fellow MAGApede! Remember, Jesus was a blonde blue-eyed German despite being born in the Middle East
Be which ever you want as long as you’re pro white
Jayden Reyes
Well there is no specified racial policy in the New Testament. In the Old Testament there is a racial policy of what your lineage should be to become a Jew. There was no concept of race back then really, mostly it was lineage. Anyway, Christianity encourages being fertile, while also frugal. Without fucking boomers and millenials living life of excess and not making enough children to sustain their own society, the whole meme of bringing in migrants to help the aging population would break. If they would still be brown people coming in (mind you that Christians are obliged to respect law of the land and should expect no less from the others), they would be judged on their actions and the fruit of their labour. One reason why Skypes push the white guilt so much is for the Christians not to understand that what Somalia became is what Somalis made it. Bible encourages charity and self-sacrifice but not sacrifice of your brothers and family members (st Paul), which is incidentally what the left loves to do.
Owen Morgan
Fuck that. Christianity is an abrahamic scheme that we should have seen through earlier.
You want something to believe in? Make it your people. Venerate your ancestors by keeping their names in your home. Worship the Volk by finding a wife and making babies.
You don't need to follow an organized creed. Believe in what you hold dear.
For short. Sometimes you don’t have to go 14/88 to have a nice, homogenous and safe society.
Julian Moore
let them come in bit by bit and get them bleached and their children too
Colton Anderson
>Christianity is an abrahamic scheme that we should have seen through earlier. LIES LIES ALL LIES SHUT UP YOU MUSLIM BASTARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>If Paganism is superior to other religions, why is the practise dead in Europe? If Christianity is superior to other religions, why is the practice dead in Iran or Saudi Arabia?
Ian Sullivan
the left symbol looks like a nose (now you can't unsee)
Eli Evans
Nationalism is a long-term LARP of the first nation, Israel. Ironically, its a kind of wannabe Judaism.
John Cook
>White Nationalist Christians of Jow Forums, convince me to become a Christian. White Nationalist Pagans of Jow Forums, convince me to become a Pagan.
You could always pick science, logic and reason and live a superstition free life style, but since that takes intelligence and balls most people fall back on religion.
>Odin was gay LOL! >Romans were gay LOL! A hundred years from now they'll write that vikings were black
Benjamin Stewart
>White Nationalist Christians That's an oxymoron. A Christian can not be nationalist. The churches are the enemy, they are race-traitors, they are supporting foreigners with missionary activities, they support the immigrants and the "refugees" coming here. The Church says all the poor filth of the world needs to be "helped" and it is their mission to do it. Kill the priests, burn the churches, death to the traitors and their houses of treason. >WE WUZ DA REAL JEWS This isn't white nationalist, it's self-hate and hate for one's people, trying to replace your history with that of foreigners.
Paganism is so old and outdated that you would have a hard time actually finding the laws that they obeyed. And the laws that they did obey did not have a strong moral foundation like Christianity. Also, being a Pagan in the modern age just makes you look fucking crazy.
Paganism is dead.
Alexander Long
That's fine for the individual but as you sort of said, most people have a need for religion. Without it they are lost and turn to degeneracy. You don't need to believe in the supernatural to understand why it is a useful construct to give meaning to the average person's life. You're not going to provide that for the masses through science and logic.
Brody King
>A Christian can not be nationalist cringe and bluepilled and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,
Adam Cruz
>he's not aware of crypto-Christians I'm aware that you Christians are crypto-kikes
Cameron Green
Why do christians think first-mover arguments will get people to believe in a ridiculous myth that conveniently appeals to the disgusting masses?
Jose Harris
I am sure you have an alternative explainaition to Roman mosaics portraying gay sex between the wealthy. Hell, I’m sure even the Roman chronicles depicting the late Rome degeneracy are a work of (((them)))
Bentley Foster
just a thought mix Christian European pagan buddhism Hinduism all together
Josiah Brooks
((((((Christian Identity))))))
Carson Phillips
>has never heard of India
Joseph Davis
how is this related to my question?
Logan Wilson
>convince me >awakening to the cause You're a weak faggot that can't make up their mind. You're beyond hope.
Austin Butler
Fans of TRS- I must've missed the memo & can't find the answer. What the fuck happened to all the podcasts they were hosting? And why did they remove them?
Literaly every religion is better than atheism, but you should choose Paganism. You should believe in your ancestors as a spirits, and eternal spirit of nature. Listen to a Varg, guy knows a thing. And you can trust him, Varg is not a atheist dipshit, but a real free-thinker. And belief in Reincarnation is important too, because if you are sure that you are comming back to earth you will care about its resources.
Almost every single large Christian institution funnels countless amounts of cash to the third world.
Many churches are even responsible for directly sponsoring refugees to come to the west.
The choice for a nationalist is pretty clear, either remove yourself from the churches and institutions that support this crap and make your own or become a pagan and larp in the woods.
Benjamin Walker
I'm not religious but """pagans""" are just larping dogs converting the extremely small scraps of paganism that managed to survive through the years into shit.
Jackson Thompson
>Almost every single large Christian institution funnels countless amounts of cash to the third world. But DUDE Those people aren't R E A L Christians!
Pagans larp as huskies pretending to be the wolves of past, Christians are more often than not little Chihuahua.
William Allen
>Varg He's a moron. Listen to Thomas Rowsell (Survive the Jive on youtube), he actually knows what he's talking about. Dedicated his life to studying Indo-Europeans, Paganism, etc.
Ryan Baker
No. We need to stop the religious infighting. It will get us nowhere. Believe whatever faith you want and shut the fuck up about it. We have more important issues at hand.
Jeremiah Taylor
This.
Austin Kelly
The cuck that just got married in a church?
Henry Wilson
Its more of a warning. The prophets warned you , the judges warned you , Moses warned you but you still decide to be a retard.
Connor Adams
We are in time to a nother revelation, just as like God revealed Himself to the Jews, And then to Christians, and now we are in time for another revelation because the human race has evolved to a point that is necessary new instructions from God. Because it came clear to a point that the Romans and the Greeks knew that there was only One God.
Kevin Wright
Idiot
Religion and the way you live your life is something within you. Your soul knows the way of your people. Joining a club and following it's beliefs will only lead you to Saturn.
Joshua Perry
Plus, all of the kiked Churches have clear signes of decadence. Maybe only the Orthodox remained somewhat true to the actual believes of the 2nd revelation. Maybe will be the Orthodox to have the privelige of the 3rd revelation, just as prophecized has the Mother of God in Fátima.
Jonathan Garcia
Why exactly you think Varg doesn't know a thing ? Explain it to me.
Gavin Rodriguez
the pagan logo looks like a NOSE
Angel Lewis
Give me solid physical proof that either of these religions are correct. I'll wait.
Asher Brown
This is correct. It's even more ridiculous given that none of these 'pagans' will have parents, grandparents or great-grandparents that were pagans, so they've not learned these things about paganism from taking part in traditions with their families, they've just read about it somewhere, thought it sounded cool and decided to act as though they believe this stuff and as though it were a genuine tradition.
He goes by intuition, not facts. He thinks all pagan European religions descend from an ancient bear cult. He thinks if you don't have blond hair and blue eyes you're not white. He still follows the extremely outdated "christianity destroyed europe lmao le ebin dark ages" even though anyone could easily find that this is a heated academic debate that is not clearly decided at all (t. historian, though this is not my speciality at all). Varg believes in whatever he wants to be true, regardless of reality.
Samuel Kelly
Forget christians and their kike slave cult Forget pagan marvel comics larp All a bunch of fools bound by excess historicism, the future needs a living faith
Everything is guided by the pilot wave function, there is explicit determinism and non-locality, We exist at the middle of our cosmic scale (midpoint between planck sphere units and total observation thus far of existence)
Everybody is figuring this out as we go along; there is no magic belief or knowledge that will make things easier.
My suggestion is to start planting flowers and herbs in pots in your house and start nurturing life that you can propagate throughout your local area. One time I heard a story of a farmer, asked what he was going to do if he learned that his Messiah is returning soon. He replied that he was going to plant another row of beans.
>he thinks all pagan European religions descend from an ancient bear cult >he thinks if you don't have blond hair and blue eyes you're not white Source ? And don't worry, i only partialy believe what Varg say, but you gotta admit, some of his teachings are smart, like return to simpler life
Dominic Ortiz
op consider the following: the majority of christian posters here are only ad hom attacking pagans or posting memes, not actually posting any reason for their faith look at how few are responding to this guys post. they wont respond bc they fear truth stupid fence sitter this is an ideological battle that must happen. these two viewpoints are at odds. and only one of them is jewish
Levi Stewart
Kek. This is true. Varg makes up complete shit all the time.
Jacob Wood
Lots of good reasons to hate xtianity, but one of the best advantages to Paganism is that there is no dogma, there is no organized politically-motivated machine for Paganism. It is more like a shared ancestry combined with ancient myths that have been with our people from the beginning of history. It doesn't need to be forced on people because it is in our blood. The values of a pagan society are common sense to the natives of that society, not foreign belief systems drilled into subdued people.
