Why does schooling still exist? It's a crime against children...

Why does schooling still exist? It's a crime against children. You're taking away at least twelve years of their youth and putting them in prison-like conditions.

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Those formative years would be much better spent in my iron mine.

what's the alternative?

Yeah i know, they could work in Coalmines and build up a life in that Time.

jews need to program your kids to hate you and use your taxdollars to pay for it

Because the left needs brainwashing camps and single moms need a place to dump off their kids.

Letting children play all day would be better than wasting their entire youth. There isn't any evidence that twelve years of schooling makes you any more productive.

>2018
>wanting large portions of the population to be illiterate
The average child has poor judgment/prioritization and is not going to pick up a functional knowledge of reading and writing if they aren't forced to do so.

>prison-like conditions.

it's preparing them for the workforce user.

So what's you're argument for the 95% of schooling that doesn't involve writing and reading? Most people learn reading and writing outside of school anyway. Every single child these days reads and writes material on the web or on the smart phone.

Its Called Prussian education google it go down the rabbit hole

I mean, the rest of it is basically about freeing up women from childcare so they can join the workforce.

Feminism and public education was a scheme by (((big business))) to destroy organized labor by doubling the pool of available workers without increasing the number of consumers.

Public schooling needs to be abolished. Everyone has a computer and an internet connection.

Bonus: no more school shootings

So what you are saying is that women belong in the kitchen or the bedroom, should be barefoot and pregnant, that we should lower the age of consent, and engage in a little domestic discipline when required?

That we should vote for far right christian fringe groups that have no chance of winning, so that the mainstream parties (conservative / republicans) politicians will start to represent the above values and people like you? (moving the needle)

goyim need to be taught that they are goyim

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As long as I get to keep my guns and ammo I don't care how many "innocent" white children need to die, their blood is a worthy sacrifice for my entertainment.

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Here's an economist's argument against the education system.

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why do schools exist?
>subsidized child care so parents can be wage slaves
>teaches children how to shut up and do what theyre told
>teaches kids to socialize

Public school is just daycare so mommy and daddy can go work at the corporate slave center instead of staying home raising their kids.

>the state only started federal compulsory public education 100 years ago and now the youth think that it’s always been that way.
Scary stuff.

Public Education is a symptom of industrialism, training humans to believe they are “workers.”

Even if you accept the idea that you need to put every child in "daycare", why make school so unpleasant? If you're gonna lock up children for the entire day, the least you can do is make it at least enjoyable for them, not putting them in prison-like conditions and forcing a curriculum down their throat.

HS Teacher here. Just because your autistic ass couldn't deal with it doesn't mean that it isn't beneficial for most people.

People need socialization. And they need role models and challenges fed to them. So that when things that truly matter in their lives occur, they'll be ready to handle it.

Believe it or not, most kids WANT to be kept busy around their peers and trustworthy adults. People crave light amounts of structure, social interaction, and low stakes challenge.

Yes, schools have a lot of shit people. But in good districts, the undesirable elements are kept to a minimum, and a good school district tries to cultivate a staff with varied backgrounds so that at the very least students will have a lot of different role models to attach themselves to.


I will repeat, OP. Most students -like- going to school in districts that aren't dumpster fire tier. They get to spend hours among friends in a safe, comfortable environment and they are given skills, a common cultural and moral baseline, stimulation, and are otherwise sheltered from poor decisions they might make.

A place to socialize and not learn curriculum.

Gotta get brainwashed and have young whores get fucked by chads.

Mods. OP is obviously under 18. Sage this shit.

Mina can come cry on my dick

>HS Teacher here.

Oh, you're another scumbag authoritarian child abuser.

>Just because your autistic ass couldn't deal with it doesn't mean that it isn't beneficial for most people.

Where is the evidence that it's beneficial for children? This economist apparently hasn't found any evidence that schooling actually produces increases in human capital. >Believe it or not, most kids WANT to be kept busy around their peers and trustworthy adults.

Then why do children need to be compelled to go to school? Why is truancy such an issue? Would you want to be locked up in prison-like conditions for eight hours a day and assigned hours and hours of homework everyday based on a curriculum you did not choose and may not enjoy as an adult? Let children choose if they go to school and see if attendance drops.

Just a decade and change of conditioning for slavery out in the work force

It is only a prison if you are in schools with niggers/mexicans
When the school is mostly white, it is more like a place to hang out with friends and learn shit

>t. 14 year old

to prepare them for the prison-like conditions of adulthood

>authoritarian child abuser

Who hurt you? I was hurt by untrustworthy people in the school system too, when I was young. It's why I endeavor to be ethical and trustworthy in what I do.

>Where is the evidence that it's beneficial for children?

That nigger is advertising his own book where he readily acknowledges that the consensus of research shows that education IS a net benefit.

>blah blah blah muh truancy

Because children are not rational actors who can make wise decisions. I don't believe in compulsory schooling either, mind you. But I also believe that anyone who can't complete 12 years of schooling should just be euthanized for the betterment of society.

>HS Teacher here. Just because your autistic ass couldn't deal with it doesn't mean that it isn't beneficial for most people.
You reddit spaced nigger are part of the problem. FUCK that nigger zoo jew propaganda machine daycare called school. How can you honestly fucking defend herding together a bunch of retards and wasting everyone's time while teaching them jewish propaganda all day long?

Lmfao, this. Worked like a fucking charm, too.

>jewish propaganda

Sorry, I teach in a state that doesn't do Common Core and doesn't intend to ever do it.

I don't know a single liberal teacher in my district.

People need to learn math from somewhere and they sure as shit aren't learning it from their parents or internet devices these days.

>Because children are not rational actors who can make wise decisions.

But bureaucrats and school teachers (most of whom are losers who can't get jobs in the private labor market) are so wise, right?

>. I don't believe in compulsory schooling either, mind you. But I also believe that anyone who can't complete 12 years of schooling should just be euthanized for the betterment of society.

Absurd, you just asserted you're against compuslory schooling and in the very next statement, you declared that anybody who doesn't finish 12 years of schooling should be executed. That's even more coercive than the system we have now. Not only that, it shows that you don't actually care about the well-being of children if you want to murder them if they're not willing to put themselves through your system.

You really are a sick man. This is the disgusting mentality of a public school teacher.

This thread gave me fucking cancer. Please stop giving libertarians a bad name with this fucking garbage.

Making your own decisions on how to educate yourself and conduct proper business and life as a citizen requires agency. The point of schooling is to allow you to develop good agency as a human being by giving you tools to effectively function in a technologically and socially developed society. You need basic argument and research skills and a fund of knowledge to stand your ground in arguments or when your rights are being infringed and you need to intellectually defend yourself. You need the ability to analyze shitty media to be able to not just go along with libshits and critically reason. You need knowledge of history and functioning of your country's political structure to be able to effectively vote and stand on a public political stage, even as a citizen.

Children are fucking retarded, have no agency or self-control, and no drive to self-improve, for the most part. Hell, even if they were, they have no clue how to go about becoming competent or using their time wisely. A functioning libertarian society assumes a basic functional level to all of the acting, self-sufficient adults, and school gives them the tools to become such. Now, should private schooling be expanded? Absolutely. Should parents have more public options in case their big-name HS is an infested cesspool? Absolutely. Should a competent adult who passes basic knowledge testing/standardization be encouraged to homeschool if they wish? Sure. But saying "LOLOL SKEWL IS UNKEWL" paints you as a raging child who just wants to play fortnite all day. Fuck the fuck off.

So the system 500 years ago where non-noble kids did household chores at 7 and became farmhands at 13 is superior?

>500 years ago
>kids doing household chores at 7
>farmwork at 13
>to condition them for life on a farm

>today
>kids doing simple accounting at 7
>marketing and policy regurgitation at 13
>to condition them for life in a production cell

I see no real difference.

You are so deluded. School teaches the exact opposite of teaching agency. Doing well in school requires you to be compliant and learn how to please your teacher and do whatever you teacher expects.

As for standing for your rights, again, schools do the exact opposite. Classrooms are microcosms of tyranny, where teachers have complete authority over you. There is no opportunities for children to exercise their free will. If you do not behave in a way that your teacher approves, the teacher will yell at you, humiliate you, lower your grade, sentence you to detention.

>Hell, even if they were, they have no clue how to go about becoming competent or using their time wisely.

Twelve years of schooling isn't an efficient use of their time. Much of it isn't useful in adult life and most people forget much of the material that is actually useful. Bryan Caplan studied the entire literature on the economics of education and finds little evidence that school produces actual increases in human capital.

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It's not the schooling, it's the parents. If I had kids, I would not enroll them in high school. Instead, they can get their GED and go to a community college. They won't have to deal with the toxic environment of the fake high school world. (High school doesn't matter, trust me, because it's artificial)

All this talk about needing this and that or you'll be poor is completely a fabrication. Even with just a GED, you can end up with a job that makes money.

Kids like being around other kids. School provides that. That's the reason they want to go usually (until they get bullied). OTOH kids hate one-on-one tutoring with an adult--the most efficient way to learn.

If I have children, I will unschool them. I really don't understand the need to force a curriculum onto your children. Let them learn naturally as they pursue their hobbies and interests. If they develop an interest, provide them with the resources to explore that interest. David Friedman unschooled his children and they turned out more well-read, more curious, more knowledgeable than probably 99.9 percent of children who graduated from the school system.

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enjoy your kids with no skills but fortnite.

>take the stupid pill, goy

Even if my children did nothing but play Fortnite, at least they enjoyed their childhood and didn't have to deal with authoritarian, murderous scumbags like you.

Yes, then they are free to starve to death because they don't have the skills to earn a wage.

i know lets do nothing and let niggers and spics fuck our kids.

>Why does schooling still exist?

Uneducated people are easier to be manipulated by the elite, education is an equalizing force across social barriers.

Plan uncovered and exposed, Anarcho-capiitalist shillfag

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Because that's the main idea behind schooling.
10% maximum of the curriculum has any possible practical value for any individual kid, and as much in terms of cultural capital. And it is taught with ridiculously inefficient methods in ridiculously inefficient organizations.
The real aim is to teach children to go up in the morning, show up on time, not make too many waves, be compliant to strangers, recognize state authority, learn about "sensitive" subjects through the state accredited lens, diminish the influence non-socialized forms of organization (family, parish, ...), establish standardization of the population.
You consider schooling a bad thing because you have different aims. It is very efficient at its real purposes.

>I also believe that anyone who can't complete 12 years of schooling should just be euthanized for the betterment of society.
I had a very unpleasant time in school. I also tested at the 12th grade level in 7th grade, but there was no recourse to get out early.

What do you teach about the rise of Nazi Germany?

I don't teach shit about that. I teach engineering, and I tell students on touchy issues that there are resources out there that will conflict and that people on every side want to control their feelings and thoughts, and that they need to dive down deep into sources to make as educated decisions as they can possibly make.

Texas includes curricular requirements on recognizing and countering propaganda as of a few years ago.

t. neet who couldn't even get a degree

Oy vey why would you keep your kids out of school goy? They need to learn to become good sla- I mean citizens!

Ya got citations for them statistics or are you pulling shit out of your ass?

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>I don't believe in compulsory schooling either, mind you. But I also believe that anyone who can't complete 12 years of schooling should just be euthanized for the betterment of society.

What school district saw fit to put someone like you in charge of children's education? They can't have very high standards.

unironically nothing wrong with it.
The real problem in burgerland is the constant lowering of standards to get graduation rates high in dindu schools.
most people are not fit for critical thinking. My other issue is not putting the top 25% on a faster track than is available.

>this system that is designed to remove personal agency teaches agency
You’re practically glowing

Currently it exists to indoctrinate children into marxism, moral relativism, and globalism. The research of Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt is invaluable on this matter.

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Is there anyway to undo the authoritarian program you get as a student in the education system? Is it enough just to realize that they were programming you to be a mindless corporate drone?

It really wasn't that bad, relative to working.
It's boring for a lot of whites and difficult for shitskins.
ancaps on the other hand would have kids in the mines and on the street whoring themselves for muh free market.

You need to be 18 to post here. Public education exists because of child labor being exploited during the industrial revolution.

>send your children to school or we'll send them to the slave mines!
yeah fuck off