Devs Aug 10 >Tiger Forces to begin moving to Al-Ghaab Plain in NE Hama, will lead op to cap Jisr Al-Shughour >SyAAF has begun targeting positions in N Hama/S Idlib, preliminary bombing towns of Al-Tamanah/Sukayk >Raqqa tribal fighters begin heading towards Idlib, shelling and airstrikes on rebel fronts near Morek/Ghab Plains >Militants in Idlib de-escalation zone state they are planning to launch offensive against SAA >Russian source; Lavrov's Ankara visit next week could pertain to possible agreemt between parties to take control of Idlib with minimal damage >UN envoy to Syria states they are preparing for Idlib battle in regards to refugees, request Turkey keep borders open for fleeing civs >SAA reinforcements headed to Aleppo to open up a front simultaneously with Idlib >DeZ; 12 buses carrying Hezbollah troops departs Deir Ezzor headed towards Aleppo >Afghanistan; Taliban attacks Ghazni (near Kabul) seize several points in city, allegedly repelled by US aircraft, however clashes continue >US DoS deflects questions on US-backed Saudi strike that killed dozens of children in Yemen, “can’t confirm...details...we aren't there on the ground”
# It really doesn't matter for the Anerican Public. The army is quite literally a mercenary force consisting of officers paying for college, gender integrated lower class people who can't find other work, nigger women diversity hire NCOs and people who would have been deported if they were not using the military to get citizenship.
No citizen has to think about the possibility he will be thrown into the war, the best minds are completely exempt from service. So no one gives a shit. This is why they are able to do so much.
Taliban does opium shit too, I know they tried to get rid of it in the past but they need the money. Plus it's impossible to truly get rid of it there as most rural dirt poor Afghanistan farmers depend on it for their livlihood, the shit sells way better than wheat or other foodcrops. If either side tried to crack down on opium it'd create a shitton of unrest
That being said the ANA is corrupt as fuck and are bacha bazi enablers, but the Taliban is also shit in its own way and I consider them akin to Daesh with their destruction of the cultural heritage and history of the country
Basically, all sides are shit and it's a goddamn mess
Nathan Richardson
taliban is definitely on par with ISIS and should be fucking eradicated
Nolan Kelly
Quite a few of them are not citizens, many of them do it for material benefit, many of them do it for a career, and there is no clustering of soldiers from regions in units. All of which were absolutely necessary to the army of every period until the 1960's.
By getting rid of the citizen soldier, and exempting them from service, you get rid of the duty of the citizen to serve. "You signed up for it." Indeed, you have to sign your own life away for it, so you have to either a (not value your life and have the patience and self sacrifice of a saint) or b (be receiving more from the military than you are by being outside the military) a soldier for benefits hire. We all want to pretend there is greater meaning of "defending our freedoms" at play but without the commonality of the citizen soldier necessitating that our politicians justifying military action and involvement to the citizen voter who will be mobilized all action becomes dictated by in-house business. Most mercenaries are actually free market, so they have to perform. So you are right, our soldiers and sailors and airmen and especially our officers are actually, on average, much worse than mercenaries.
Ryan Reyes
Yeah, but the Taliban clearly have the popular support of the civilian populace compared to ISIS which dont outside of desert Bedouin niggers
Jose Lopez
Wow, so this is how effective Amerifat propaganda really is.
>should be fucking eradicated Seeing as NATO doesn't have a genocide-program for Afghans, i'd say that won't happen laddo.
Jose Diaz
oh did you take a poll of the ordinary afghan and how they feel about the taliban keeping them in a perpetual state of war? >destroying the taliban is genocide learn some definitions
Mason Brooks
I'm saying you have to genocide Afghans to genocide the Taliban dumbo.
Carter Thompson
They still romanticise military service like it's still WW2 and they're all shooting sandniggers or kicking ass, when the majority of enlisted just sit around on base, jerking off and pumping iron on the government dime, while maybe seeing a dead body on the side of the road and beating off on firewatch to liveleak videos. Military service is just a job, not some heroic calling.
>Two Vans have been disturbing free cigarettes to children and civilians in #Raqqa city crossing #SDF checkpoints and fighters without being prevented. twitter.com/Raqqa_SL/status/1028752339342172161
Wahabis dont smoke? no wonder they keep losing, their troops must be strung out hard.
Camden Cox
As I said before the ANA is extremely corrupt. There's a lot of reason to not like the government there. People tend to turn to religion as a result, and it seems in the middle east, unfortunately, only those who have the fear of god in them, so to speak, aren't corrupt.
The Taliban's primary support base are rural Pashtuns, who make up the largest ethnicity in Afghanistan. A lot of them are extremely religiious, and they see the US as a foreign invader on their lands. Which is why we've made very little progress against them after 17 years of war. In essence, to get rid of the Taliban, we'd have to genocide the Pashtuns. Which seems unlikely given the political landscape in the modern world
Lincoln Foster
Tajikistan south
(Andropov partition plan)
Nathan Johnson
#Iran's territorial waters in #CaspianSea before & after being gifted to #Russia & its allies by #Iran's Islamic Regime in exchange for getting #Russia's support during incoming possible #IRGC's operations against #Israel in South of #Syria. #CaspianSeaSellOut
>Iran's Islamic Regime in exchange for getting #Russia's support during incoming possible #IRGC's operations against #Israel in South of #Syria (X) Doubt
Israel might be the greatest ally, but Oil is Oil, and if Russians have learnt something from Americans, it's that you don't refuse oil, especially free one.
So for Israel, unless it gives more, it looks like it is going off the maps.
David Lee
#Turkish Lira per US Dollar.
Five years ago: 1.92
Four years ago: 2.11
Three years ago: 2.76
Two years ago: 2.95
One year ago: 3.54
Six months ago: 3.81
Three months ago: 4.28
Now: 7.03
Alexander Perez
That's incredibly misleading, the reason why we've lost a lot of ground there was because of Obama pulling back the troops and basically giving the taliban a new life. They're tired of war and just need to be beat down, expect Trump and Mattis to crush them once ISIS has been defeated in Syria. You don't need to genocide a country to beat them into submission it just takes a consistent and practical approach that we haven't had in 8+ years.
Aiden Williams
This
And it's sad to see when the soldiers who join for that propogandized altruistic reason realize they've been lied to, and then begin to play it for benefits.
It's like there is the basic optimism of civic unity that gets snuffed out, and this was something in the past only accomplished with the most horrific and mismanaged of wars. These days it happens while the soldier is in OUST or AIT leaving jaded and cynical garrison soldiers who lost the civic spirit, usually lost in such disasters as Gallipoli be just as effectively lost forever by doing bullshited details for Sgt Laquisha or Captain Hernedez for 3-5 years.
Charles Johnson
Pic on the left is wrong Not conform int law on territorial waters nor was there a treaty ever giving them control of that area
Zachary Rodriguez
This is an unwinnable war. The Afghan governemnt is never going to be able to hold its own and stabilize the country on its own. The US can increase involvement, but we'd have to be there permanently to keep the Taliban down. They'll never give up I don't think, that's part of being super religious there, they praise and glorify martyrdom and believe they'll be rewarded in the afterlife. They'll never give up no matter how bad things get and there'll always be plenty of Pashtuns out there who are disgruntled with the US backed government, so the Taliban will always be around to some degree. And the US will always have to have a presence to keep them down. It's not worth it in my view, this is an unwinnable war and although I have no love for the Taliban I'd rather leave them be since they're willing to stay in their own turf halfway across the world.
Thomas Mitchell
>inb4 AKP says it's Erdo genius plan to bannish petro$$ and estabilish gold-backed Lira
Alexander White
>This is an unwinnable war. literal concern trolling, not even going to bother reading the rest of your post
Jace Moore
>responding to sparky
Jose Sanders
what can I say, I like to argue, and I always hope there's an off chance I can potentially redpill at least one magapede, although I suppose I'm asking for too much here
Why don't you respond to my fucking argument then instead of ignoring it, tell me *why* I'm wrong and address the points I've made. It reflects poorly on your side when you just ignore everything anyone says contrary to what you believe
Isaac Walker
Nobody legitimatly likes the Talibans but we still want them to BTFO the mutts. How are a couple Talibans ruling some Mountains gonna affect the world anyway. It would be even better because less opium would come out(I think).
Death to America
Jackson Perry
why dont you go back to leftypol or reddit or grandmas facebook where you belong? Or lurk for several years before unironically cringe posting like a 1970's peacenik while making retarded assumptions about islamists will "leave us alone and stay on their turf" after they've already proven to launch unprovoked attacks on our country when WE WERE LEAVING THEM ALONE.
God you shills are seriously the most braindead cum stains on this planet, and you have the balls to say you're "redpilling" people.
Ryan Ramirez
wew lad, Taliban fills their coffers with opium farming too. Everyone does it, and it's just a part of Afghanistan, see
Tyler Long
>getting angry over sparky baiting Can you even comprehend how much fun he has when he successfully aggravates people?
Here is a fucking redpill for you. Sparky does what he does in order to have fun and to keep /sg/ alive.
That left pic i either horribly wrong or it was the Persians that controlled the world this while time
Lucas Green
>unironically rooting for the taliban islamists to run the drug trade in afghanistan where they can cultivate terror organizations against the west again
Michael Morales
Actually thats not me and I'm not baiting although im sure there are people who do it.
Hudson Morris
>controlling another country's coast line on the caspian sea horribly wrong
Easton Ward
I see no problem with that. Can't wait for everything West of Austria to collapse
Adam Murphy
at least you're honest i guess even if you're cancer kebab that needs to be removed
Jeremiah Stewart
The taliban utterly decimated the drug trade in Afghanistan you mongoloid. The CIA is using it as a drug factory to poison rural America. Dumbass ZOGbots get blown up defending the fields that their cousins get poisoned with, and retards like you enable it.
Loving the Russian boner into the gas Fields even tho it's 3 Times closer to that Kazakh peninsula that also looks like a boner
Liam Miller
>The taliban utterly decimated the drug trade in Afghanistan you mongoloid. The CIA is using it as a drug factory to poison rural America. [citation needed] The taliban are like the ISIS mexican cartel of afghanistan you fuckwit, the USA isn't producing opium.
Jaxson Barnes
Perhaps, perhaps you are lying. It really does not matter. As there have been several interpretations and impostors of sparky, to the point that "sparky" represents a made up persona of a persistent kekistani magapede voicing his often contemptful opinions.
Jace Morris
>USA isn't producing opium I didn't say they were, the Afghans are. And then the CIA is importing it.
>USA invades >Opium production skyrockets >Opium epidemic ensues in the USA as Mexican Cartels import it
Kill yourself. Why the fuck should I care if some shitskins hate America? The only time they ever do any damage to the West is when the West enables them. (See: Mossad enabling 9/11 with the Saudis)
>The USA isn't producing opium My sides, I guess Assad does gas His own People and did destroy the last hospital in Aleppo 250 Times over the course of the offensive Also, The White helmets are legit God sent angels and Doctors without borders don't ship niggers from Libya to Italy
Grayson Thomas
ah okay so its your way of discrediting american opinions without having to think logically
Michael Green
It's time to reclaim Jow Forums back from the redditfags and make it a fascist board again! Join the fight on /PpG/, Puring Jow Forums General!, this is our first thread!
The Afghanistan Opium Risk Assessment 2013, issued by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime, suggests that the Taliban has since 2008 been supporting farmers growing poppy, as a source of income for the insurgency
An obstacle to getting rid of poppy cultivation in Afghanistan is the reluctant collaboration between US forces and Afghan warlords in hunting drug traffickers. In the absence of Taliban, the warlords largely control the opium trade but are also highly useful to the U.S. forces in scouting, providing local intelligence, keeping their own territories clean from Al-Qaeda and Taliban insurgents, and even taking part in military operations.
While U.S. and allied efforts to combat the drug trade have been stepped up, the effort is hampered by the fact that many suspected drug traffickers are now top officials in the Afghan government
Former U.S. State Department Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Bureau of International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs Thomas Schweich, in a New York Times article dated July 27, 2007, asserts that opium production was protected by the government of Hamid Karzai as well as by the Taliban, as all parties to political conflict in Afghanistan as well as criminals benefit from opium production, and, in Schweich's opinion, the U.S. military turns a blind eye to opium production as not being central to its anti-terrorism mission
Reading reports of turkish troops storming Incirlik Air Base and capturing US soldiers
Aiden Evans
Yup. Just like every /sg/ drone is muzzie lover etc... You can't help it but make a strawman.
David Richardson
>Reading reports >No link No (you)s for you kike
Ryder Brown
>hampered by the fact that many suspected drug traffickers are now top officials in the Afghan government Gee I wonder what country's State Department was in charge of the restructuring of the Afghan Government after the invasion. Also every quote in there essentially says "U.S. forces protect opium producers" And if the Taliban is making it and using it fund insurgencies they must be selling it to someone. The U.S. intelligence community brought this entire war into existence and this situation benefits them immensely.
Since I'm very "chaotic neutral", let me give some intel/recommendations to several countries right now.
[Iran and Turkey]
Now as you should be familiar with the destabilization plan some groups have for the middle east in which after Syria it would have been your countries next.
Since Syria is being stabilized these groups are very likely planning on just skipping ahead past Syria. Trumps Admin Sanctions are designed to be the first steps. Trump himself is just going to use this opportunity for some negotiations while not being aware of what's truly being set up down the road.
[Turkey] It's not about the Pastor/Imam, it's about Syria and NATO.
Pull out of Idlib and NATO. Focus on border defense working with the Iranians and Iraqi's to contain the Kurds and to stop any attacks from them.
[Saudi Arabia]
Yemen will be your countries Vietnam. It's just making you look like an embarrassment on the world stage .Talk to Israel about missile defense systems as a better investment.
>BREAKING NEWS >ERDOGAN HAS UNLEASHED THE WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR, THE K4RA-B0G4 >M*TT WH*TOIDS BEING MASSACRED AND ENSLAVED AS ERDOGAN ANNOUNCES THE BLACK TURK TO KILL ALL WH*TOIDS
John Lee
Peak burger hours
Austin Foster
Reading reports of me storming Cate Blanchet's house and taking her hostage Give source dummy
Russia is not a reliable option since it is not an equal power contender with the U.S. and the Western alliance in general, nor is it willing to challenge the Western alliance altogether. Moreover, the interests of Russia and Turkey differ on many fronts and even on Syria. Iran is an essential ally but has its own agenda and problems.
China is a controversial power center, which may create more problems as an ally or partner and cannot compensate for the loss of the U.S. and Western partnership. It is not to say Turkey should surrender itself to U.S. demands by sacrificing its interests but it seems promoting tension is not a good idea.
>Implying any refugee in Europe would return to Syria. They wont return and EU wont force them to. When/If the Syrian war ends, more conflicts would show up in the Middle East.
Chase Collins
But what Will they do with their own refugees when Lira crashes like Zimbabwe did
Jason Jones
feels good knowing at least a part of syria will be free, prosperous and democratic under the protection of the United States of America.
Who cares about opium, who cares about anything anymore in Afghanistan. It was always mountain shit and will always stay that. What is important is the political situation, and the humiliating fact that Americans cannot even deal with their own created proxy force is pathetic. It became personal because of that.
Morality and Ethics no need apply, there is only space for force and principles. Do Afganis need a democracy? Do they need saving? Saving from what? From Sauds committing 9/11 so that their country gets occupied?
They don't perceive world like we do, meaning that the "system" that US tries to fight is not a "Libya" like regime that can be toppled and forcefully replaced by some idiots who suck up for money, but it's ingrained by locals as best possible way to live when they take their culture, religion and traditions into context.
Either way, Afganistan lost any meaning to the world, it being resolved is no longer necessary to world superpowers, nobody cares. For US it became a personal issue and now it's both a black hole for money and manpower and it's a training ground.
Current status quo is not problematic as it brings predictable events that bestow certainty onto population. Unlike either side winning and risking another level of confrontation.
Dominic Edwards
id love to see a before and after trump v obama and send it to dems on twitter, obama fucking sucked at tackling ISIS
Isaiah Cruz
Guys I've been reading the news about Syria. War earlier today. Damn those headlines gave me a boner.
>Russian Special Forces arrive in southern Idlib for upcoming offensive – source
