Fashwave music and art seems to be on a large decline lately. People are losing interest in it, it's not as big as it used to be. Now that fashwave is dying, what will be the new big art movement for the right?
Now that fashwave is dead, what will be the rights next art movement going to be? PT 2
Michael Foster
Joseph Jenkins
Fashwave has barely even begun my dude.
Ethan Butler
Jacob Reed
Carter Nguyen
Fashwave is not dying kys angela
Sebastian Perez
but it is time it evolved.
Aaron Allen
my thoughts if you didnt see them, posted after new thread
Jaxson Cooper
This the op of the last thread, heres a bump.
Jonathan Harris
It's more of a provocative statement.
Aside of that we still have to step it up a notch and divert if we want to lure normalfags in.
John Roberts
Posted this in the last thread but didnt realize it was at bump limit
Anybody think they could do one with this image and the caption "The Boys Are Back In Town"?
Henry Perez
Another front we gotta advance is in the video art department. It's the best way for propaganda to travel afterall. Are there any good rightwing artist who are worth following?
I do stuff like that from time to time too.
What do you guys think of shit like this?
It's not explicitly political but it got the 2 genders, male and female in it encompassed by all that is. It's from awhile back.
I'm getting back into editing and I might make more of it but with a more defined message. If you guys got suggestions please share em. Got my camera stolen by a crackwhore so it's done to mixxing stuff together.
youtu.be
Ethan James
P A L E O W A V E
Kayden Campbell
Ian Sanders
Adam Howard
Charles Gutierrez
Now that's fuckin sexy.
Sebastian Parker
>Tak I, som faldt, og I, som blev tilbage
>Thank you, who fell and you who remained
on the right of the pic, seems a distant enough message on its own
Isaiah Brown
Digging it
Jordan Sanders
>Fashwave is done
Sure bud whatever you say
Bentley Martin
Maybr our reptilian overlords will go easy on us if we honor them properly
Michael Young
Leo Carter
I think it could actually work. It's very niche, so I don't know if it would get quite as broad as fashwave, but the blending of traditional/fashy values with paleo-related imagery has a certain appeal to it. The timelessness of strength and regal brutality all balled into one, while simultaneously impugning "progressives" and degenerates who think they're more "evolved" or can "control" it.
Jeremiah Watson
>It's not explicitly political but it got the 2 genders
In the last thread I said I wanted to put together a series for kids on youtube and this was the motivation, not so much to promote a distinct message but to simply show kids today something they might not see anywhere else, that gen x parents will see is missing.
Simply having white male and female characters, zero diversity, zero sexualisation. Girls wearing dresses and playing with dolls, boys in shorts kicking footballs, doing innocent fun things in small contained adventures.
Judging by what I see kids watching now its almost radical.
Ryder Nguyen
If someone got the photoshop. I think this pic could look awesome with the SkyKings plane edited in maybe altered a bit more in colour etc.
Dunno if it's better in the reflection at the bottom or actual sky.
Jacob Martinez
Some advice, fashwave anons?
Use "double memes". A double meme is a meme that can be translated two ways by people coming from two directions.
For example, I once made a political button that had a rifle and a door on it. It was basically pro-freedom pap that I was into at the time. There was a caption near it saying "No search warrant? Talk to the muzzle".
(Yeah this was back when we were all on dialup and internet memes were yet to be ok so bear with me here I too look back on those days and realize I didn't know what the fuck I was doing)
The goal of this button was basically to say "you will get shot if you violate my rights".
So. I had these buttons laid out at a gun show. And cops showed up.
AND THEY FUCKING LOVED THOSE BUTTONS
And fellow right-wing militia nutjobs like me also loved them too. For entirely different reasons.
So that, anons, was a "double meme". Make a meme have a meaning for us and our, AND a meme that the enemy can construe as theirs, or a normie that would be opposed to you would still like because they interpret it differently. That sort of meme will become a bridge across the perceptual membrane. Remember the left can't meme, but we can, and we can fuck with them using double memes and de-zombify the normies.
Leo Peterson
Sounds nice but it got a high probability of coming out weird if you don't know what you're doing. Either way go ahead. Soubds good.
Jaxson Thomas
I was obssesed with dinos as a kid so I'm all for it. lol
Ryder Lewis
Let's bring back motivational posters.
Ethan Perez
Kevin Reed
>fashwave is dead if I say it is constantly
Mason Clark
pop art
Jaxson Martinez
There's def an angle to that too.
Chase Russell
I actually like it and not just because I have an entire folder of retro dinosaur drawings, as you can see theres a lot to it.
Lincoln Ross
Post-modernism can be used as a tool, too. It has a stigma for "nothing is the truth everything is the truth" which is a double edged sword for the jew
Nolan Sullivan
Hopefully a return to not being complete shit.
Jordan Perez
Andrew Torres
Jonathan Carter
Well shit, there's really something there. (link related).
youtube.com
Do you have GIMP/Photoshop/mememaking skills? If not, you can just drop some of your best retro drawings and we can pick em up and vaporwave em. There's def something worth pursuing I think.
Bentley Gomez
because fashy sounds fucking faggy as hell
Zachary Powell
Here's an autistic drawing of dinosaurs from me when I was little. Must have been really young. I drew hundreds of them..
Levi Adams
>he signed them
cute
Dylan Morris
Carson Watson
right wingers arent creative and cannot hold their attention span for long. anything to do with creativity right wingers suck at and get give up on easily
Landon Wilson
Julian Howard
Isaiah Hernandez
This painting is so fucking good it brings tears to my eyes.
When the excavated Pompeii they found two soldiers in armor with their gears and weapons at strategic points in the city.
As apposed to fleeing with their wealth and worldly goods as most others are shown the soldiers stood at post. Either fearing their superiors would execute them or desertion or knowing the city would be engulfed they stood at their post.
Elijah Brown
Kids media is utterly insane, the pace is aggressive, its how they view their entire lives and its all by design. The goal is to fill their brains with so many distractions and messages that no rational thought is ever developed.
For some of the youngest, who have only ever known tech that takes over all of their senses, theres no distinction between the onscreen entertainment and the world around them, everything has to be done 10 tabs open at a time. Films are paused and rewound over and over so they have time to play other games while watching, the games they play have to have a dozen things happening at once.
Its fine for people who didnt develop under those conditions, as although we are targeted with the same distractions, we largely can make the distinction between whats real and what isnt but the damage being done to the infant brain right now might never be recovered.
Consider that its accepted biology now that people have health, weight and height potentials, that can be affected by diet and lifestyle growing up, things like smoking or excess junkfood can stunt a persons development in childhood which will never be recovered no matter what they do as adults. Well the brain is no different, its a growing organ and it is under constant attack, children are having their every thought scrambled when they should be developing imagination for use later in life.
I want to do something about it, even a token gesture, has to be better than nothing.
Adrian James
Nazi hip hop
Liam Murphy
is mugshot wave up? mob wave? catholic priest boyrape wave? depression farmer wave? middle america wave? flyover state wave? zen wave? mandala wave? trump's supreme court legacy wave?
Joshua Fisher
Sure bud because post modern retard art has any merit to it other than money laundering..
Leftist degenerates are just pushed by the elite to further mindfuck the population who get this filth pushed down their goy mouths. They want you to think the left is creative while in reality they are increasingly getting more and more devoid of any soul and spirit.
David Ramirez
Punchwave.
Nathaniel Cox
there will be better images than these for sure, i just like them as a curiosity, theyre part of an old trading card game
Andrew Stewart
where are the rembrants and michealangos of right.
The people can do art and scultpture like the masters.
all they know is photoshop and adding filters.
PJW talks constantly about the decline of art and aesthetics in the modern world but he himself does not produce art.
The left infects and permeates every medium in society,music,art,movies,books,comics
who are the right wing musicians, know of how many are there?, why so few?
go down the list of the mediums mentioned above and ask the same question.
the right isnt creative because to be creative requires a certain level of abstraction the right is incapable of.
Sebastian Robinson
Spot on. Tv and onscreen media makes you numb to the world. It's such an influx of stimuli, one from the objects on screen and the 60Hz nonstop hypnotizing flashing light. I'm convinced that this somehow fucks with the pineal gland. It sucks the life out of these kids. They cry and act up when they're still young when this process isn't finished and get just zombies once grown up. Neurotic stressed out hedonistic degenerate zombies.
Charles Russell
>They want you to think the left is creative while in reality they are increasingly getting more and more devoid of any soul and spirit.
two points
1)
the left is creative, have you been living under a rock? Who has been producing all these shows and works of art for the past 50 to 60 years. it was conservatives.
2)getting more and more devoid of any soul and spirit.
i agree but this likely because they are running out of things to abstract
Michael Flores
Fash minimalism?
David Perez
The ones who are creative are just drugged the fuck up and pushed into the mainstream. Most of em aren't intrinsicly artistic. Those of em who are just project their inner madness and trauma outward. Best example here is Rick and Morty.
Nathan Rivera
Didnt catch that, that would be a cool message too
Jaxon Hill
God my english sucks at this late hour.
Colton Cook
That's awesome. I'll start with the two you posted here. Tumblr has some good retro dino pages if you look around long enough.
moschops911.tumblr.com
theawkwarddinosaurs.tumblr.com
allosauroid.tumblr.com
goddessoftheblackcoast.tumblr.com
Easton Smith
>comparing Trump to Bush
Pls
Logan Price
youre bashing them without giving a real rebuttal.
Who cares if they are drugged out degenerates if they are the ones producing things for the world to watch giving them the means to slowly subvery culture and society.
If you want to take BACK society then you must creative art of your own to steer society to wear you want them.
Gavin Brooks
I like the European Roman, Greek, and German styles, but I wish there was more American Traditional pieces. I am biased by my location of course, but they are my favorite.
Henry Thompson
Oh and they groom artists. These people are very impressionable, naive and childlike in many ways so they get easily coecred into the leftist agenda.
Christian Butler
Craftsmen are right wing, they're the ones that actually produce art. Currently free form creativity is valued above all else because of the myth that we need to progress as fast as possible. To conceive new ideas you need to be unbound by conservative thinking but new is not the same as good, it's mostly shit venerated just for being new.
Connor Sanchez
Not a bad plan. I'vd pondered a similar idea myself. Double-dipping is a very good strategy if used right.
Bentley Hughes
>the right isnt creative because to be creative requires a certain level of abstraction the right is incapable of.
>abstraction
>talking in absolutes
Youve been tricked into believing in the lie of dichotomy, in that you must pick a side on the faux political ((spectrum)) and that everyone on the other side is by default inferior.
Almost nobody on here has been right wing their entire lives, almost nobody holds the entire laundry list of 'right wingerzf' shit you attribute to the strawman in your head. its to self perpetuate the victim (or fighting for perceived victims) status, one of the reasons capeshit movies are so popular among liberals is they actually see themselves as superheros fighting an evil regime, they MUST attribute every evil imaginable to another side.
I mean me personally I'm an environmental conservative, believe in free meritocratic higher education, universal healthcare and I'm also a massive racist, everyone else will have their points of diversion that your worldview does not account for, with artistic creativity being part of the make up of people with views on every subject.
Jordan Martin
I do. Not anything special but I like it.
Daniel Moore
cigs are mind control from you know who
>trying to intercept this message- is the bishop in the shotglass a metaphor for modern masculinity trapped in the diaphragm of toxic femininity?
Angel Jenkins
gothwave
Aiden Edwards
I mean even memes altough not comparable to great artworks are a example of right wing creativity.
Adam Sanders
Bishop?
Dude it's what ever you want it to be.
Jace Jenkins
Smoking fetish is just another jew vice perpetuated into the masses to drive immoral and degenerate behavior.
KYS
Connor Watson
This is something they cant understand en masse, their conditioning wont allow it, a single meme can illicit more of an emotional response from the audience than a 2 hour movie and what is art even if its just a technical masterpiece, with no impact.
Show pic related to any woman between the age of 18 and 35 who has had an abortion and they will be cowering under their table crying, yet theyll never consider it a piece of art.
Theyll also never understand what fashwave is or why Richard Russels death hurt so many on here.
James Miller
>muh chess piece
Leo Roberts
1) craftmen maybe be conservative, how cares about furniture. Furniture and wood work say nothing about the human condition
2) I disagee that to conceieve new ideas you have to be bound to conservative thinking. The strength of Conservative thinking is that value the long term vision and ideals of society so why arent we seeing bold ambitious artwork talking about the somewhat utopian like vision for the humanity
Kayden Fisher
mein freund
James Martinez
True. Can't shake it tho.
Samuel Reed
nothing is over.
Robert Wood
damn, tham milkers. tham a lamm, hnnnnngggggggggggggggggggggg.
Josiah Evans
Dominic Howard
Samuel Young
Omg saved. Patrick Little is the future.
Hunter Hall
neo-romanticism?
Isaiah Torres
Jack Walker
Yea. Inciting emotion in people is really powerfull. Especially in this heartless and consumerist dystopia.
F E E L S
is where it's at.
Justin Perez
The right does not produce art, nor does the left. If someone produces art that is derived from what makes someone like a group, political or otherwise, then it isn't art, its a visual transmission for a said group and their goal. A piece of political art is an emotive ejaculation needlessly complicated by its medium created to derive the message of a simple emotive phrase.
The reason political art isn't art is because it cannot deal in any nuance in its interpretation, while often being itself originating from somewhat nuanced interpretation. The depiction of a government program, politician, country, current event, trend, or idea MUST BE INTERPRETED AS THE CREATOR INTENDED. This is not different than using coded language, which is hardly abstract.
Art must have avenues of understanding that exist outside of coded language, instead participating in the viewer's head as a mental apparition of dynamic natures. Thus resulting in different meanings from different people.
Adam Gomez
Jose Gomez
I always saw it as a genera and not a trend, because it didn't take off like trends to. Fashwave is forever.
Jaxon Cooper
meme are great and all but you need things that can enter into peoples homes and minds subtlety that people also cant help but admire.
what we need is classical revivalism and maybe iconographic art
Leo Hernandez
How we choose to build the things around us represents our values. Craftsmen don't just make furniture and buildings but sculptures and art but honed skilled isn't valued anymore, a factory is more precise anyway. The only art that's valued is art that offers something new and the easiest way to do that is subvert things held as common truths, you don't actually need to offer anything new just attack the old assumptions.
2. You describe 50s futurism. It's not new and wasn't "new" when it was new since it just shows conservative ideals with a futuristic twist. The snobs hardly consider it art because it didn't "move things forward".
Jeremiah Turner
Other than the one space dude in a flower field all flash wave has always been a shill o.o to make us look cryptic and bad to the public. There is a charm to it, but it lacks mass appeal for a good reason. Then head will use it as a dog whistle when they false flag to get people to associate it with juvenile school shooters.
The best aesthetics are memes that wont last a month and art forms that are timeless.
James Sanchez
>if they are the ones producing things for the world to watch giving them the means to slowly subvery culture and society
There are millions of people that have produced things for society and culture for generations, but it always had to pass through a distribution filter. Each had its own agenda with the biggest motivator being maximum profit. A lot of creativity never saw the light of day and people and their work were tossed aside. It seemed like that was changing in the right direction for a while after more people decided to get online. For once, there was no barrier to talk to others or communicate ideas and art. That all changed recently when tech companies decided to conspire against freedom. Freedom has headed back to distribution centers with agendas.
Kevin Anderson
God I sound like a faggot.
Making art that is strictly right wing and advocates for right wing policy is broke, making art that explores themes and ideas that the right wing cares about is woke.
Aiden Parker
Noah Martinez
>us
Andrew Kelly
anything which conveys your thought or a point across to your observer/audience is art.
abstractionist and post modernist influence on society was the convery that nothing is sacred and that traditionalism is dead or should be overthrown.
The audience seeing doesnt get it but it works on their subconscious and their subconscious arrives at that answer that classical and tradtionalism is to be disgarded or abandoned.
artist doe this till we go from tradtionalist to abstractionists to brutalism
to art where its just a black canvas painted in one single color.
Kayden Miller
>this
I hate it when fashwave art comes out as subtle as a fucking brick through a window. If we want to make an impact, we need to be subtle, which means we need real artist who believe in the cause and not these ideologues who are only trying to subvert people.
Xavier Hughes
ITT: commies looking for the next big thing to steal
Cameron Robinson
The issue is not that "left" or "right" is inherently more creative. The definition of each pole of that false dichotomy has changed radically within the last twenty years, let alone the last five. The most inherently creative group is the one which encourages self-sufficiency and free expression. In our strange world today, that has also ended up being the group that identifies itself as 'the right.'
While I was considered a moderate democrat when I was a teenager in the early 2000's, now I'm apparently a nazi fascist shitlord for holding the exact same opinions then that I do now. You'll notice as the generational shift happens and people from my demographic finally have the resources to artistically establish themselves that the number of 'right-wing' artists is infinitely larger than either side would expect. But we are still the same people that we have always been... anarchists and solitary producers who really just want to fend for ourselves and be left alone.
But society has refused to leave us alone. Now we have no choice but to react. This is why we we have become 'alt-right.'