If Portland is such a leftist shithole, why is its economy doing so well...

If Portland is such a leftist shithole, why is its economy doing so well? Unlike other cities that hand out "tax breaks" and other perks to businesses, Portland seems almost hostile to business - and yet, companies and developers are flocking there anyway. Why? According to libertarians, it should look like a northwestern Detroit due to over-regulation and big government.

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People are migrating there and are willing to pay a premium for the location, climate, and culture. It is much easier to attract young employees to Portland than Tulsa.

>People are migrating there and are willing to pay a premium for the lack of minorities.
ftfy

i think because, unlike other cities, they recognized their housing shortages. if you say they are "hostile to businesses" i'd assume it may be strategic before apple moves in a huge campus for 20,000 people, all of the renters jack up their prices and kick their tenants out and end up looking like san francisco.

or maybe an ounce of self preservation. i think portland managed to maintain some semblance of long term identity. i still hear politicians and county positioner's names that i've heard growing up. that may be bad since they had become bureaucratic, but still recognizable which meant they had responsibility because they had to live their for their entire lives and careers.

and even the news channels still have some of the same personalities as when i grew up (28 now, grew up in oregon, portland's news channel played for a lot of the state partly after local news).

i think they maintained some self preservation through maintaining an actual identity.

oh yeah, and it's white as fuck and very beautiul and clean and nice and the suburbs are awesome and it's near nice oregon beaches and the 10 minutes from a fucking untouched green ocean river, and the pristine shining gem columbia river; not some sewage dump on the east coast. and very, very white.

Lots of whyt pipo

Portland was a nice 'under the radar' town. They fucked up by getting a big profile. Now they are going to be swamped with people and they will turn into a gridlock hell.

Cities everywhere are doing well because Whites are moving back and pushing out the no good niggers and beans. A big part of this is because Obama relocated non-White hoards to the suburbs with no down, no income home loans. They even let them count welfare as income for the loans.

Liberal Whites would never admit it but they hate living next to nogs as much as the rest of us. They claim they love diversity as they move back to mostly White city neighborhoods. Even places like Detroit and Baltimore are now being gentrified. It's fucking hilarious. The non-Whites want to be around us to bad. They finally get to move to the suburbs and Whitey flees again right back to where the nogs come from, the cities.

Clean? The homeless have made it their garbage dump!

it's not that bad compared to everywhere else.

Call for migration there.
Antifa strongholds should have migration pushed on them the way they do it to us.

The white people of portland are a kind of crazy black people still fear.

How many fortune 500 companies have headquarters in Portland? There is a reason Columbia Sportswear moved it's corporate office out of the city.

>housing crisis
>homeless everywhere
>small business is taxed into oblivion
>still wants more taxes on small business
>literally useless art tax that costs more to send out letters for than the tax brings in
>practically have people calling for your exile if you aren't a pure commie leftist
>art hoe capital of the West Coast

I want my city back.

t. Silent conservative who works in a small business, has to deal with getting barraged with handout requests on my way to work

I've only heard Portland anons talk about how much of a hellhole it is

White flight.

what's the business tax?

I genuinely believe it was all that shoe Portlandia's fault. It portrayed us all as weird trendy faggots (which while not entirely untrue, was not the majority of people), and it caused a mass migration of "quirky" people to Portland, that jacked everything up.

Communism only objectively works if wypipo

I'd have to look at the numbers of it, as it was only my boss telling this, but according to him Portland seems to think adding exhausting levels of taxes on small business is going to help them somehow.

It's still very white and Asian and that's why it does ok.

Portland is fucking bad when it comes to homeless camps and shit on the streets. They're fucking aggressive too because the city pampers them and idiot hipters from the midwest keep giving them money.

It’s like 95% white, like most leftist areas. Kinda makes me wonder why the party of diversity always lives as far from it as humanly possible. Remember that many leftists threatened to move to Canada if trump won, but not a single one threatened to move to Mexico. Why do you suppose that is?

Ouch. OP is BTFO'd two posts in.

I feel like this is going to Boise next, really fucking hope it doesnt. The idaho potato meme is great because it makes the whole state appear lame and unappealing to trendy commie hipsters, but a large number of californians are still coming here

> According to libertarians, it should look like a northwestern Detroit due to over-regulation and big government.

Do leftists honestly believe that massive taxation and over-reaching regulation actually build wealth and prosperity?

Do you not see that a place can prosper IN SPITE of it's local government. If socialism worked Detroit would be paradise.

Chinese start buying up properties -> boomer now rich -> borrow money using their houses -> boomers spend money -> more jobs -> repeat

I am thinking about going there, but the Californians I know who went there wanted to get AWAY from Commiefornia, not make a new one.

This.

I grew up and lived in Portland for the vast majority of my life until I couldn't take it anymore.

There are next to no minorities out there that actually outnumber or take over large swaths of the community.

On top of that Portland actually has a lot of diversified industry at its fingertips as well as plenty of empty land to develop into smaller communities.

That being said. Its still a shithole I'd never move back there. the whole "KEEP PORTLAND WEIRD" shit just got taken way too far for me to stand living in Multnomah county anymore.

Maybe I'll buy land out in Clackamas county some day and build a house but fuck that gay ass city .

There are effectively no corporate taxes in Oregon and small businesses just got a tax break. Major corporations looking to move here get the standard package of sweetheart deals on property taxes and incentives. Portland recently paid a developer something like $4 million to include 40 "low income units" in an apartment skyscraper.

The state income tax essentially pays for everything. Licenses and permits are dirt cheap. E.g., driver's licenses cost $40 and are good for 8 years. Businesses get the same low costs.

Honestly, Oregon had been an extremely well run state until Kate Brown took office. She's not really an ideologue outside of having the Attorney General sue the Trump Administration frivolously. She's just incompetent and tries to cover up corruption. No idea why she's running for reelection, she's a typical take the money and run type, but I guess the blue wave meme has gone to her head.

That's adorable.

t. San Francisco

>next

It's already happening. They shit up their state to the point it becomes unlivable if you're not a beaner on welfare or a techie autist and then vote to shit up yours.

I hate the Quirky(tm) portlandia-inspired faggots from "flyover states" that came here to "keep portland weird". They're fucking invaders brainwashed on some made up hollywood culture acting like they own the place.

No sales tax.

Income tax more than makes up for that you retard

tech bubble
dirty chink money bubble

Re-evaluate in 10 years

Portland's only action to resolve the housing crisis is to rezone parts of traditionally left to rot east Portland for skyscrapers that no one is interested in building. The homeless state of emergency just brought in more homeless people by making it harder to arrest them.

The only thing they need to do to solve the housing crisis is expand the urban growth boundary, but no one will even talk about that since Damascus was incorporated and everyone lost their shit. Before that regular expansions were planned and enacted. There is like a two thousand square miles of land zoned as the next expansion since the mid 90's.

It's gotten really bad since Kate Brown took office, but it's still not as bad as California and Washington. NGOs had been dealing with the problem for decades but the endless waves of Californians coming with no job lined up finally overwhelmed us. I don't entirely blame Brown for it even.

Not many blacks.

>oy vey if they build more housing the value of my condos will go down!

It's going to be San Francisco all over again.

Yes, Oregon is a shithole overcrowded with swarms of swarthy Mexicans. Stay away. But come for your vacation in one of our many parks and resorts. The Oregon Coast is beautiful and hundreds of miles from the front lines of the Mexican invasion. You won't even notice!

Don't miss our salt water taffy and a tour of the Tillimook Cheese Factory!

Do. Not. Believe. Californians.

Boomers who already own homes would rather die. They're banking on the home they bought in 1890 for $75,000 jacking up to 750,000, to compensate for the $5 in their savings account

Really makes you think.

Oh my poor sweet leaf, the Boomers refinanced their houses in 2004-2007. They don't have equity and many of them have already been foreclosed on. They are filing for bankruptcy at three times the rate their parents did at their age and most of them are no-asset Chapter 7s, meaning they have less than $30k equity in their houses.

But there is little doubt that the Metro Council thinks as you do, since they are part of the small group of ultraprivileged Boomers who didn't manage to blow their entire six figure income year after year.

>small business is taxed into oblivion
>still wants more taxes on small business
Shut up
You fuckers pay zero sales tax

i think that's a different issue

I grew up here. Downtown used to be such fun for nightlife and clubbing. It was always clean and everyone would get drunk and be super friendly. Now it’s become all about dive bars and th whole area is fucking ugly now. So many homeless people and the clubs are not even packed anymore. Traffic is getting retarded because we only have 3 freeways and we can not handle all the California faggots moving here.

>If Portland is such a leftist shithole, why is its economy doing so well?
The quick answer is that Portland would be doing a lot better with tax breaks and a more business friendly environment.
Socialism is insidious because it destroys the future. Since the future hasn't happened yet, most citizens remain ignorant of what they are missing out on.

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Not to mention the maze of one-ways that lead into another maze of one-ways. That, in of itself, is a good way to handle traffic zones, but not when you have a city population rapidly expanding faster than infrastructure can allow.

The traffic has gone to complete shit. The city has expanded massively and infrastructure has remained completely the same except for the USELESS infastructure CRAP they build like the Streetcar and the new Bus only bridge.

>and a more business friendly environment.

Why? So those businesses can import workers and hangers-on from around the country and world and shit up the local demographics? Detroit was very business-friendly for a long time; big corporations imported lots of cheap laborers from the deep south. How'd that work out? Or look at Virginia, which votes fucking Democrat now because businesses have imported so many outsiders. How is that "good"?

Right. Its was white flight, now its gentrification.

Kek, hi David.

How should the problems plaguing Portland be fixed? I want genuine answers within the realm of reason (as much as I would love to purge the city of deviants, it's just not a possibility).

Honestly, I think the ship might be taking on water too fast to repair. We can't very well tell all the newcomers to leave, nor can we really stop new people from coming in. The only way they'll go is when their own policy forces them to relocate or face financial ruin (then they'll wonder why it happened, and just do the same shit to the next poor saps who get them).

I want to believe there's a solution, so give me some honest opinions on what can be done. We must become the thorns to protect the Rose!

It's probably because those who live in multicultural areas know how bad it is, yet those who live in mostly white areas believe in the nice sounding fantasy of different cultures all living together in harmony.

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It does build wealth and prosperity for those who are collecting the tax money though. It's just everyone else who gets shit on by it.

blah blah shut the fuck up, ignoramus.

PORTLAND IS FUCKING IRRELEVANT.

Because it's white by a large majority, seems like that's all you need

Exactly.