Why was it ok for the US constantly breacking Soviet Union airspace?

In the 50s, 60s and 70s, the US constantly flew spy planes over the Soviet Union, while the Soviets never did something similar in the US.

Why were the US allowed to do so and still claim they had the right?

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because they were spreading "freedom"

Everyone would do it if they could, but they US had the best tech. You can bet your ass that if the USSR had anything even remotely as capable as the SR71, they would have overflown the United States.

airspace has a vertical limit
> what is "space"

Just thank them you had the best years after the iron curtain was over, and blame your people for fucking it again.

Russia constantly violated our airspace and still do to this day, in Alaska.

Well, the Soviets were law abiding people. They only did surveillance from space, which was legally ok.

Not really. America just illegally extends Alaska airspacd over the Bering sea (Mostly Russian territory).

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This.

>claim they had the right

Might makes right. A lesson we in Europe have sadly forgotten.

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Never came across anything (even including the Powers downing/capture) where it was argued that the US was exercising a "right" to spy.

You're talking about a time pre-satellite. The Ox-Carts (CIA owned SR-71s) were flying at 85,000 feet in the fucking 50s.

So why?

Because they COULD.

Only countries with nukes can do what they want

Not countries that rent nukes

The Russians did the exact same thing on a routine basis, you mong

the blackbird is such a beautiful piece of engineering, its kind of sad we dont have a reason to make cool shit like this anymore

Just so you know, the SR71 never overflew the USSR.

Korea, Vietnam, China, etc... yes, but there were no flights over the motherland after the U2 shootdown.

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thats the point, mutt, thats not you at all, that is a product of german engineering, look at your classrooms now, youre lucky to see 2 white kids

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Read Up on the Open Skies treaty. We now do it legally and they do it to us legally.

Finland is the only major company that won't abide Open Skies.

Wrong. There were no more U2 Flights over the Motherland. The SR-71 made many flights over and in 1983 was shot at and almost hit in 1983 over Siberia.

>Why were the US allowed to do so

They filled in some forms with the World Sky Police who gave them a special temporary permit. The US never did anything illegal or the entire country would have been arrested by the Global World Action Police.

Why was it OK for the Soviet Union to constantly break US airspace?
Because that's the game that was being played, that's why. I don't expect minor countries like you to understand.
>they would have overflown the United States
They did and they have.
>Well, the Soviets were law abiding people
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More than just Alaska, pic related in New Jersey.
>America just illegally extends Alaska airspacd over the Bering sea (Mostly Russian territory).
You need a source to back up both those bullshit claims.

forgot pic

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>while the Soviets never did something similar in the US.

literal retard

Not really, there were spies on both sides.

>caring about rules

you sound like a poor

Source you want?

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The Soviets never spied on US territory from spy planes. Never.

Because they were part of a secret, clandestine group called "Team America: World Police".
America gets to police the entire world.
It's okay, because Israel allows this, so we're good.

I have no idea what you're sperging about friendo, maybe I meant "we" as the human race in general.

This. Once heard they just went around Russian airspace. Thing was, they had REALLY powerful cameras. Not sure if I completely believe that though.

Yes, shame we don’t try to make amazing things like this anymore. Mars Rovers are cool and all, but ywn get to fly the rocketsled or the Concorde.

They are literally working on the SR-72 as we speak as well as a whole lot of other secret aircraft.

You won't hear about it for 10 years though.

The Soviets did this all of the time in the Baltic sea, Japan and over North America. They'd hit NA on the way down to Cuba with their recon aircraft or in Alaska and over Canada.

Your vertical limit is at whatever you can shoot down and the Soviets would take shots all of the time.

While we were flying at mach 3+ over the USSR they had thousands of agents in the states doing all manner of espionage. They also had cells and to this day do.

foreignpolicy.com/2013/12/27/military-style-raid-on-california-power-station-spooks-u-s/

Incidents like that are modern examples where cells test our power grid and how easy it could be disabled. Snapping some photos is benign compared to that.

>They are literally working on the SR-72 as we speak as well as a whole lot of other secret aircraft.

That's corporate wellfare for MIC, you have already all the satellites you could ever ask for, those spy planes serve no purpose.

Mericuh does what Mericuh wants. You questioning us my little Hansel? I wouldn't recommend it.

Sure is a nice open society you have there, would be a shame if someone subverted it.

I doubt they’re working on any aircraft faster than the SR-71 right now. Even in it’s heyday, they were already switching to research on stealth and drones.

>They'd hit NA on the way down to Cuba

So Soviet spy planes flew over freaking Minnesota? Because that is what American planes did, they flew straight through the Soviet Union, thousands of miles. Not close to it... straight through.

It wasn't ok. That's why the blackbird operated at such a high altitude. It was never meant to be seen. Rivals have always spied on each other, that's not going to change anytime soon. It was never a case of "being allowed" they simply got away with it.

> why did something happen in the 50s, 60s, 70s?
> because a treaty in 2002

>while the Soviets never did something similar in the US

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its called freedom of navigation

Yes, yes it was.

The soviets had been massive assholes since before WWII
Their only goal was to subjugate Europe's resources to feed their bureaucratic elite
Undermining Europe and USA's trade deal agreements was their means to that goal.

Fuck soviet russia

Because the soviets didn't have an interceptor that could fly as high as a spy plane.

it wasn't "okay", but wtf were the ruskies gonna do about it? In this world, only might and force is right.

The US had the best nazi scientists, that is. because after the fall of Berlin, these guys would rather live in the US that under the bolshviks. The nazis scientists captured by the East are the ones who just couldn't escape in time

Have you considered that they did and the government just covered it up to make it seem like AMERICA NUMBER ONE?

Because fuck anyone but us?

Satellites are limited in resolution and availability. Satellites cost a billion dollars, each. Satellite data streams can be easily intercepted (though not easily decoded).

If we ignore the supreme hate-boner (MIC bought) congressmen had for the 71 since the 80s,
The SR-71 is only retired, now, because modern mass producible missile technology is capable enough to shoot them down.
The SR-71 was a more viable reconnaissance platform than any satellite network up until the late 2000s, in cost, in availability, in loiter time, in resolution, in security.

There is no camera in space that can or will ever provide better images than a camera already in the atmosphere.

mig 31 stripped down for recon is faster.

With "experimental" (re: no engineer would ever label it flight worthy) modifications in a suicide dive that completely fries the turbine after 35 seconds, yes.
Yes, a mig31 is faster