If I don't want to live under the heel of the government or the bankers, forced into wage slavery and debt slavery, but I want to live a decent, modern life with electronics and a wide diet of food, where can I go?
If I don't want to live under the heel of the government or the bankers, forced into wage slavery and debt slavery...
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>with electronics
fuck off
You sounds spoiled. Either go in the middle of nowhere to live off the land or stop being an ungrateful pussy.
make your own country
with what land?
Having a smartphone shouldn't mean I'm permanently indebted and dependent on bankers and the government. Is there anywhere you can build a house where they don't charge property tax anymore? Why does everyone have to be a slave to another person or corporation to just live a decent life?
>Having a smartphone shouldn't mean I'm permanently indebted and dependent on bankers and the government
Yes it does for obvious reasons you probably dont understand
Waiting to hear why I will never be free if I want a smartphone....
You are such an unbearable faggot. If you wish to have nice things then you'll need to provide something in return, maybe some labour or expertise or some nice things of your own?
You think cable infrastructure and satellite data just grow freely in the wild somewhere?
ohhhh you said the word faggot on an anonymous board, what a tough little girl you are...
I never said I wouldn't be willing to offer something in exchange. I didn't say I wanted it for free moron. I said I want to live in a society where the government and banks don't own everything. Where I don't have to take out a mortgage to buy a home and even when I pay off that mortgage the government has property taxes that if aren't paid, they take my house away from me. I don't want to be a slave to another man. I want to do my part, and then freely trade with someone else on either the labor or services or products I can provide by myself.
No. Any other stupid question?
street beggar in a major city
that's roughly a week per $1000US
That wasn't a question, genius, that was an answer.
Still need a place to live, otherwise I'm not living the "decent life" as stated in my original post.
>You think cable infrastructure and satellite data just grow freely in the wild somewhere?
It had a question mark on it you fucking lunatic.
Entrepreneurship. Start some business of your own. That is what I am currently trying to do. Start my own small business. Not just for the money, but for the freedom to live my life on my own terms. Go into business for yourself.
Retarded memeflaggot.
Care to expand on how you think that negates the issue of rent/mortgages/property tax? The things that effectively put us into slavery.
What primary school grade are you in that you haven't learned about rhetorical questions yet? This is an 18+ board.
You're an over-dramatising faggot. The banks don't own everything. You take out a mortgage because the house you buy is worth the money that you pay for it. If it wasn't you wouldn't buy it. You just need to face up to the fact that you just don't have that much value. Yes, you can hold the opinion that taxation is theft, but if so you're not being controlled, you're just being robbed. Stop being a fag and do something about it, like living off bennies or implementing regime change.
How brain damaged are you that people can't differentiate between sarcasm, rhetorical questions, and regular questions on a text thread? The cat pictures show what kind of cringey tumblr jackass you are anyway, so I wouldn't expect you to know that people can't magically read your mind.
Christ, user, you're not enslaved because you have to pay property taxes. Look, I am a fucking reactionary nationalist who hates the government of our country almost as much as I hate the foreign hordes who want to defile her. Despite that, there's just some things you have to deal with. In return for sucking it up and paying taxes, you get to live in a society that would have been considered fucking paradise on Earth by 99.99999999999999% of humans who've ever lived. You have all this time to shitpost and bitch BECAUSE you live in a society that guarantees property rights, enjoys extensive modern infrastructure, and provides opportunity in literally countless guises and forms. Campaign for low taxes, vote for LOCAL low-tax, small-government politicians, talk to your social contacts about the reasoned-out, specific interests we have in low taxes. Past that, fleeing to some bumblefuck backwater isn't solving shit. You're as capable as anyone of fucking up the plans of the globalists; don't quit the game without making any moves.
> It's not being controlled, it's just theft that you can't escape from!
LOL calls me a fag, then proceeds to largely agree with what I said. Is this you trying to come out of the closet?
>guarantees property rights
You mean they take my house that I "own" away if I don't pay their never ending taxes... it's slavery. They force you to rent a house that you "bought" and worked to pay off hundreds of thousands of dollars or more.
>ampaign for low taxes, vote for LOCAL low-tax, small-government politicians
you don't really believe this do you? Taxes always go up, even when they slightly go down, they quickly go back up.
>You're as capable as anyone of fucking up the plans of the globalists
You are literally telling me to "suck it up" and be a slave to the globalists.
You can escape from it, but you're just too much of a coward to do what is necessary.
Sure. Read and learn from the people who know. Rent/mortgages/property taxes are designed to fuck over the uneducated. You can literally become a billionaire in real estate while using endless legal loopholes to get around all of the things that you are angry about. While it is true that you can't fight the system, that same system benefits from the reality that most people don't even bother to learn the system, much less benefit from it. I am starting with the basics and teaching myself how to survive in the real estate game.
Life is slavery, moron. The things that put us into slavery aren't rent, mortgages, or property tax; it's life and nature: water, food, other humans, other animals, disease, weather, seasons—holy fuck you're ignorant. Rent, mortgages, and property tax are just a tokenization of all that.
Pic related is literally you.
Care to elaborate? Seems like you're just making this shit up as you go along.
He already did, you just haven't learned to read English at an adult level yet.
You can put your hands over your ears and scream "LALALA" as loud as you want. Everything everyone telling you are completely valid points. You're too much of a pussy to just leave and make it in the world. You'd rather the comforts but none of the work. You can make it here or you can run to bumfuck Africa or something and try to make it with your own two hands. Either way, just bitching and running isn't gonna get you anywhere.
He coulddo that or he could move to Alaska into the woods where he could smurf anytime he wanted.
>other humans
>Rent, mortgages, and property tax
I literally just acknowledged some of the tools other humans use to enslave each other and you're acting like I'm not talking about the same shit you just listed. You're so desperate to be contrarian you're just coming off like an ass.
Everyone could tell his tone. Are you actually autistic or something
I love how angry you are. You're too dumb to actually answer questions so you lash out, cat girl...
The "valid points" are, live as a slave or beg in the streets of a major city, or live in the woods. None of those meet the criteria of my original question. People are so quick to dick suck and defend being a slave to the government and bankers that they can't even think of anything outside of it.
>Everyone
You speak for everyone now? Who are you? You must be powerful.
This is also literally you.
>literally
You need a dictionary dipshit
Oh sweetie are you afraid of the kitties? I'm so sorry.
No baby, I'm not afraid of the kitties. I see I won the argument though.. =)
post a picture to prove him wrong faggot
Oh fuck, you are autistic. What are you doing on the internet little buddy?
Hey man you asked and people told. As it stands those are the only available options there is so what did you expect anybody to say? God damn it's not our fault we are all stuck on this worthless hunk of rock.
It was fun making you sperg out, here's a parting gift.
I'll post one when you share with us your working credit card number. After I extract $500 I'll post a photo.
Talking to retards like you. What are you doing little girl?
You will hear lots of noise in this thread.
Its basically "If you don't have soul crunching debt and not paying $4,50 for a cup of coffee, you are not a well meaning member of the wage slave consumerist weakling societiy we need to keep the system afloat."
hahahaha what a pussy, can't even prove he's not a nigger
The issue is no one answered my question. Everything people have said here effectively comes to "you can't". And they sit there and argue their long winded "you can't" as if they gave me some sort of option. What's more entertaining to me at this point is watching these fucking fairies defend getting fucked in the ass by government and bankers.
What? You really expected to find an answer like "Go to Atlantis"? You fucking serious? If you can find that place, please tell me. Until you do these are your only choices. Asking these questions and making us face these two options to make us angry and angry at the system to do your dirty work on tearing it down because you are too much of a pussy to do it yourself. I know what you commies/antifaggots do. You're not impressive.
I've been having fun numb nuts.
Live in the philippines. Come back to wage cuck for about 5 month a year, then fly back and spend the rest 7 month there.
Many do this.
It's like they'll defend it to the death. For a website that is supposedly largely anti government and anti banker, these morons are big on sucking government and banker dick.
What, you don't have the $500? Are you a broke nigger or something? If you're poor and black man just say so...
But you are asking a question that really doesn't have an answer.
well I've gotten the location of a few of you faggots this way, it was worth a try
I expected some sort of intelligent conversation. I refuse to believe that no philosophers, revolutionaries, anarchists, hermits haven't had discussions on what it means to live off the grid and outside government controlled society. Instead it's a bunch of intellectually deficient idiots that tell you to go begging in the streets which doesn't address any of my original question.
They don't have property taxes in the Philippines?? How does one go about acquiring real estate there?
Better to just say you don't know, then some of these non-answers I've been getting.
No. You asked a stupid ass question and now you're getting stupid ass answers. You people work at an angle of emotions. It doesn't work on these people because we've accepted harsh reality and we are learning to live with it. You actively choose to deny it, which is fine. But you don't do anything with that denial. You just bitch and whine. Maybe when the "revolution" starts MAYBE you'll participate. People like you have no soul. You will not win.
Good luck being black and broke, nigger.
Its basically a long lease.
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But you don#t have property taxes and its dead cheap to rent a house for $200/month
Rather buying instantly, see if the country suits you, move around, then learn to know people, then settle in an area with low crime
have fun projecting
>we've accepted harsh reality and we are learning to live with it
Whatever man, have fun living like a slave and never even considering an alternative. You're just one of millions of useful idiots.
Lol, ok nigger.
Have fun bitching about wanting to live like a free man without putting in any effort into taking control of your reality. The only way out is up. People who understand will know what I am talking about.
Maybe so. But either way I don't know what to tell you and obviously neither does anybody else.
So, waking up in the morning, pay 4,5$ for a cup, paying $800 for a new iPhone, living in a upper class area many can't afford, maxing your credit cards for SHIT is "harsh reality".
Nothing of that stuff is required for survival, but people still do it.
Some of my mates have gone there on holiday. Very interesting. II was thinking more territory in the West, but Asia might be interesting. 'll have to look more into it. Cheers.
I'll try to enjoy myself. BTW, I'm literally trying to take control of my reality but whatever.
>Meet the musical little creatures that hide among the flowers
Based and redpilled
You're being intentionally obtuse about such things. That is their reality. That is how they choose to deal with the harshness of reality. It's a disease, not a symptom of it. Everyone has a different reality. It's not a hard concept.
Except for this gent telling me about the Philippines.... At least it's some sort of possible alternative then the pathetic "it's just the way it is" I'm getting from the rest of you cunts.
No your not. You wouldn't ask loaded questions like a fucking faggot. You'd be out doing it and actually trying to find places you disingenuous worm.
What nation do you currently live in? Why cant you just caravan it like a pikey or gypsy?
Thats what I woud do.
Out doing what? I had no idea where to even start before I got that advice. And why is your pussy in such a bunch right now? Are you some sort of stunted revolutionary or something?
I simply don't consider that a decent way of life. I don't need some 140 square meter house, but I need more than a rolling coffin like that.
Maybe go on the travel board? Maybe google search it? Idk, I just think you coming to the political board to ask travel questions is a little... what's the word I'm looking for... oh I know. D-i-s-i-n-g-e-n-u-o-u-s. I can guarentee you're not gonna look into the Phillipeans and when you wake up tomorrow it's gonna be in your parents house bitching about the same thing tomorrow, the day after, the one after that, until you die. You'll just bitch. You are not a man of action.
The sealand, of course
I want to know how to get away from the boot of the government and bankers. I came to Jow Forums. It's not rocket science. I live in my own flat you monumental cunt. I'm starting to see you're just goading me but damn you just sound like such a moron doing it.
I get it, I understand and agree that taxes are basically theft and they're there forever. My point is that you have a limited amount of time and resources, and if you're going to choose how to use them, fighting back against the injustice of the existence of taxes is going to accomplish nothing compared to fighting back against, for example, white genocide.
>Taxes always go up, even when they slightly go down, they quickly go back up.
I'm not saying it's an outright solution, I'm saying that if your biggest problem is taxation, that's the best you can do.
>You are literally telling me to "suck it up" and be a slave to the globalists.
No, goddamnit, I'm telling you to prioritize. Do you have ANY idea how much harder your life would be if you tried to go off the grid and be entirely self-sustaining? You'd work yourself to exhaustion every day just to survive and lack the vast majority of security and social perks you have right now. Fucking take advantage of how relatively good you have it and focus your angst towards something you really can fight back against. Get your idiot friends to stop spending money on Hollywood movies, or speak up about how affirmative action is anti-white racism, or put up It's OK to be White fliers.
>I simply don't consider that a decent way of life. I don't need some 140 square meter house, but I need more than a rolling coffin like that.
Well what do you plan on doing throughout the day if you aren't working. All you'll truly need is a place to sleep then during the day you'll be out doing activities.
Also, you could always purchase a much larger RV if you need more space.
You need to list your priorities and what climate you plan on living in
Well boyo, first off everything you say and do is being recorded on the internet via dragnets, or simply even just your provider selling your data.
The reason I know this hits deep is because you won't stop responding. People like you don't know how imageboard/user/just any internet culture in general around these parts. If you were really unbothered by what I was saying you wouldn't need to try and feel validated by anons with some snarky comments. You don't need to defend yourself. It's anonymous. I don't know you and you don't me. I hope you give this encounter some serious thought because people like you make me sad. It'd be worse if you had to be the one we string up on Day of the Rope.
based
..and redpilled.
>If I don't want to live under the heel of the
>government
Good fucking luck.
>bankers
Depends in what sense you mean. If you mean escaping life under a fractional-reserve system where money is inflated out of thin air making you poorer and a bank richer, good fucking luck
>wage slavery
Money is just a proxy for value, moron. If you cry about money you are crying about life itself. If you don't want to work for someone else to earn that money, find a way to create value yourself
>debt slavery
Don't take student loans, only very carefully use other kinds of debt
Nobody is saying that though. However what we are saying is that there are very few genuine alternative paths
Ok, I'll try to detail as much of what's in my head to see if some situation like this exists. Some things on my mind:
1. Still live in some sort of society outside of government property taxation that isn't some cult
2. Be able to contribute to that society with labor or services - I'm a structural engineer by trade, but I cultivate my own vegetable garden and I greatly enjoy the outdoors, specifically in the dales, or also in the Italian Alps every couple of years.
3. I would like to participate with society at large on my own terms. I don't want to have to pay income tax, sales tax, property tax etc.
4. I'm open to all climates except desert.
5. I'd like to eventually start a family and choose how to raise my children without government mandate.
Would you consider the amish to be a cult?
Live in an RV for free on public lands.
I don't know much about them really other than they live in America and they don't use any form of modern technology.
He could actually live in a different location daily with this option
You're not a fucking slave, jesus christ. You're exchanging some skill you have for the resources required to sustain you. You want the rest of us to sustain you because you think you're fucking special and work is beneath you. Well, get fucked, matey, I pay too many taxes already. You can chip in and pay your part or fuck off and starve, no one here cares about you or which you choose.
Public lands mean you can be removed for squatting. I want to go somewhere and put a home down/buy a home.
Fuck these faggot commies. However st the same time, I refuse to
"Learn to live with it," as ultimately it is antifa and the communists that our media, our govt and the thousands of Jews within it are propping up. There is a reason as to why faggots like soros who make a living crashing economies is pumping so many shekels into these groups, as well as the fact as to why so many of our officials try so hard to prop them up in a positive manner
>You want the rest of us to sustain you
The fuck are you on about?
why don't you show flag first?