Does anyone else miss life before pic related? i think computers are destroying mankind to be honest

Computers aren't destroying mankind. (((Mankind))) is. Computers and the internet were amazing until the normie and subhuman infestation happened

There was a time when I was only allowed to use the computer for one hour per day. Somehow I survived that just fine.

well i dont have any stats to back this up but i have a hunch that the majority of internet data usage is for porn so im going to agree with you on that

>he doesn't compute

I know exactly what you mean, I use computers at work and home constantly. It pulls us away from basic human tasks. If you get out in nature, hiking, farming, camping, or otherwise away from a PC for a long period of time, life feels fuller.

I've been on the internet via personal computer since 1992. Social media and peoples lack of self control are the poison of which you speak.

You've identified the problem, that's a battle half won. Now finish it and you'll be a happier person.

Every single time. Every stone I turn. It's mind blowing.

Computers are fine, it's the web that caused the problems.

Computers are fine. It's this instrument of Satan that's the cancer.

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^This. I was just a few years behind you. Online in 95 (was in uk) thanks compuserve.

I miss the time before pic related

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We had more freedom of information when we were sending around text-files between 8-bit computers, using the telephone line.

The Anarchist's Cookbook would never be as prevalent or read if it were released to the wild now. The same applies to all the files explaining phreaking and the like.

All the web has done is provide a convenient and entertaining pressure valve to let off stress. People scream and gnash their teeth on social media and forums, then feel better afterwards (the same applies to Jow Forums, by the way).

If the same things were said down the local pub or whatever people would eventually elevate the situation because that's what happens when people get passionate about something in large groups that are in agreement.

The "Wild West" days of the internet were golden. What it's morphed into today is Hell on Earth.

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Is she fucking serious

i dont know man i think i have a literal addiction. im not on social media and i hate it with a passion, but im still addicted to reading news 24/7 on the computer or watching youtube videos or watching netflix shows or reading Jow Forums or watching porn

its not like it happened overnight, its just i never realized it until now. its been a gradual process where i have let the computer take over my life. i think back to all the time i wasted playing video games as a kid too and it makes me sick

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lol

People will readily say things like "Oh, there's still parts like that," but it's all a LARP really -- no one actually believes it. Plus it's been removed as the dominant culture, so it's irrelevant how many secret clubs there are when the narrative everyone lives by has been changed.

People say the same things about ROM sites at the moment, missing the point that there was a time when this shit used to be everywhere, now it's just private trackers and sites no one wants to mention to avoid the attention.

The internet was awesome before niggers got on it.

the speed of internet, which allows video to load instantly is the biggest culprit.

no, i hated life and wanted to die every day before i got my first computer

Yeah in those days when I got excited about the potential....it didn't look like this

but there is no free will. humans do not control their impulses therefore computers will continue to cause the problem

Even though I would only start using computers at around age 10, they were already around when I was a kid so I can't say much in that regard. But this one thing is certain: smartphones are a curse. All the things that have already been said aside, I miss the pre normie internet

I remember a news story where Sir Tim basically said "it wasn't meant to turn out this way." Very sad.

Read "The Shallows" by Nicholas Carr. He goes into all of this. The good news though is that due to neuroplasticity the damage isn't irreversible.

do something physical when you get home, take a walk, make it longer everyday if possible, lift weights, something. Sitting on your ass all day and staring at a screen and coming home and doing the same thing is not healthy. My wife used to do it too and it made her cranky as all hell, I convinced her to exercise or something when she got home and it worked til she got prego, but w/e. the point is do something physical when you get home.

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top kek

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And the part of internet evolution I like the best is it will only get worse. I love misery.

This
I literally can't find a cutie anymore, they all know now that they could have 10 duddes lined up in front of their doors if they just snapped with a finger thanks to instagram and apps like tinder. Maybe even 100.

It destroyed the dating game unless you are good looking.

One of the worst things is the intrusion of the web into otherwise unconnected places. The typewriter didn't destroy the pen, but the web seems to totally steam-roll everything in its path, and absorbs it into itself.

>People say the same things about ROM sites at the moment, missing the point that there was a time when this shit used to be everywhere, now it's just private trackers and sites no one wants to mention to avoid the attention.

i never thought that kickasstorrents' death would lead to something like this.
The moment Nyaa goes down is the day the interwebz dies

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A smartphone is a motherfucking computer you absolute retard.

if she is 24 then i am a fetus

So is an abacus if you're going to make that equivalency. It's the mobile screens that are bad that allows you to totally ignore the reality around you.

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computers are our salvation as a species, we're just not even remotely experienced enough to deal with it. give it time lads

Despite how badly social media and the internet has ruined human interaction it has also helped expose the propaganda that we've been brainwashed by for all these years. Without the internet we would all continue to be slaves to the media.

Just think of how much shit the media got away with before the internet and then you may reconsider your hatred for computers.

I think you're being overly utopian about this.

This. Life before phones was totally tits.

We've got to see what many people are really like, what they think, all over the world..now often as it happens or moments after...all over thel world. It's pretty ugly in some cases. Cannot decide if I prefer the ignorant bliss (I remember before) or prefer the heads up.

I think you're right, I don't see how today the US government would be able to hoodwink us that Iraq has WMDs. You had kikes pulling the chemical attack and blaming it on Bashir but not even normies bought that shit. Trump launched a few harmless missiles on a Syrian airbase to appease the Jews and a week later everyone forgot/stopped caring. If that happened in 2002 we'd be occupying Syria now.

Obamaphones filled the internet with niggers, and corporate jew media web 2.0.

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is it? i see more minions than ever

I think that's totally unrelated. I think it's more that people simply don't believe the narrative any more, and no longer have the passion to fuck around in a desert. I think the web played little part in this. Most people have no political conception of the web at all.

>guns kill people

The government should force everyone to camp alone in the wilderness for 5 days each year

What happened with that though...there aren't Trumpphones are there? Those Obamsphones must be all bust up by now. Curious as not in US

Computers are fine. Smartphones were the mistake.

I refuse to live in a society where the owners of TV stations, radio stations, and newspapers can manipulate the minds of the people. Now that we have social media and the internet events around the world can be viewed as they happen as if you were there rather than watching edited footage and listening to the made up narrative the journalists create.

That's an important point for sure, in favour. With you there in.the pros and cons

Unironically read the Unabomber manifesto aka "Industrial Society and Its Future" if you haven't. Uncle Ted was right about many aspects of this, as well as having some profound insights into leftist psychology.

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Most people are sponges who believe the last thing ever said to them, no mater where they heard it. The idea that people are getting "red pilled" by the web just doesn't add up when its far more likely that it's just their own existence, seeing the narrative break down even through the lies, that is causing them to lose faith in the establishment.

Computers are one of the single greatest inventions humanity has ever devised; the internet is the single greatest thing created yet.

The problem is, as always, people being shitty. A massive interconnected web that allows us to instantly share entire libraries coupled with programs that can actively seek out the newest information is the mos effecient learning tool ever made.

Instead corporations and interesr groups made tits and social praise the most visited sites.

Take fot example wikipedia, it is a repository of knowledge tje scale of which no one has achieved ever before; and it relies on donations to eke out an existence.

Yet the prints of the Hidden Hand are all over it. Nothing untouched

It's not just computers, but tech in general.
Biological life sucks, but technology makes it even worse as it moves us further and further from the state we evolved to live in.
Kaczynski was right. Read his manifesto.

I miss people not looking like fucking zombies, but aside from that no. Computers have made life better than it was before them. Humanity needs to catch up and tame technology, not be a slave to it.

>Humanity needs to catch up and tame technology,
Considering that reading is still unnatural to us I think you have a long wait.

90% of wikipedia pages are propaganda with special interest groups aggressively controlling their pages. Even pages that corporations don't care about still get controlled by weirdos (just look up any page on any pseudo-science topic--they all act like their shenanigans are legit).

The internet has not helped enlighten anyone. At it's early height it allowed strangers to shoot the bull, but those days are quickly coming to an end.

Why are you not living in the woods then?

His manifesto was bullshit and he was insane. Technology has helped us; humans are just shit. We were shit when we grubbed in the dirt and fucked each other in caves and we'll be shit when riding solar rails to Tau Ceti.

Lol they get away with way more shit now. The same cunts just control what goes viral on social media now.

A million people marched against the IRAQ war in london pre social media. Didn't make a jot of difference. Same shit applies and will apply now with the Iran war. A billion angry tweets won't stop shit. Nothings changed. If anything the brainwashing is just more targeted now.

>The idea that people are getting "red pilled" by the web just doesn't add up when its far more likely that it's just their own existence, seeing the narrative break down even through the lies, that is causing them to lose faith in the establishment.

But the web IS helping to break the narrative. For example, the media may play down a terrorist attack by whitening the photos of the attacker and cherry picking to shift the narrative away from immigration to something like gun control or racism. Through the internet that shit gets exposed enough to make people question the legitimacy of the media.

What did autists do prior to having Jow Forums and video games?

>Through the internet that shit gets exposed enough to make people question the legitimacy of the media.
Can you show me where this appears on Fortnight or their Instagram feed? Most people do not have any political conception of the internet at all. If the web is the only thing that moves people to action then how did Charter 77 happen?

Try finding a TV channel that is anything close to Jow Forums.
Yes, the leftists have been trying to get their hands into the internet as well, but for now, it is the only place free enough from their bullshit.

Nope. The web is controlling the narrative in conjunction with msm.

Jow Forums is far smaller than you think. It's more like a fanzine or pamphlet, at most a monthly magazine, in analogue terms. Yes, it seems to punch above its weight, but that's because of the people on it, not the place itself.

Yeah the internet was fun for about 20 years but now it is killing the free(ish) world

Suicide generally

TV is for boomers. There are millions of hours of alt right shit on youtube. Its not like its hidden. Its pushed in conjunction with the msm.
Control both sides.

Big bank and big tech jews have more control over the planet than ever before

>Why are you not living in the woods then?
Who says I'm not? 4g is present all over. And yes I used to be a tech fag who worked at big tech corps, such as the one that brought you CDMA.
You haven't read his manifesto if you think it's insane. The only part of it that is unreasonable is his insistence that simple terrorism will cause people to revert back to pre-tech living. It's not that easy.
>tech improved our lives
Tech has lengthened our lives and bloated our population. Neither effect has been helpful in decreasing suffering or increasing happiness.
I sense your underaged... maybe someday you'll witness a loved one kept alive for a decade of agony by medicare fueled technology, or maybe you'll witness the AI revolution in all its glory.
Or maybe you'll keep living like an automaton and poop out some babies to join the fun.

Worked with their hands.

>I bring out the worst in my enemies and that's how I get them to defeat themselves.
You realize what's been happening right? There's a certain threshold where increasing censorship actually works against those doing the censoring. The tech jews are so neurotic they keep doubling down, adding more constrictive algorithms, more shills, bots, and biased moderation staff. At this point the tech companies have affected so many normies they don't even know how large the silent majority is. To add to all of this, there's so much censorship on the internet that the Jews don't have any actual way to get correct statistical analysis on how people are thinking and feeling. out of sight out of mind. #WalkAway was so much more massive than the Jews even realize because they used their bullshit algorithms to stifle its growth. That didn't stop it though.

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I miss a time before the iPhone and social media.

And control both sides. There is no left or right anymore. Its just d&c.

>t. ted

It's still the same as before, just less provider companies now

I sort of agree. People get more information from more sources faster than it can be confirmed or vetted properly. Every has an opinion and thinks that everyone else has to listen to and respect it no matter how outlandish or false.
If we had access to truth or could trust the sources of the information there'd be a lot less twitter-tier news making headlines.
In addition to all that, social fucking media.... It's a god damned plague. People are irresponsible, sharing fake ass bullshit and forwarding fake news around and propaganda like it's their jobs.
I don't trust a fucking thing I see on the internet anymore without checking 17 or so sources. It's pathetic as fuck.
People are becoming self absorbed, self centered, drama queen, hyper sensitive little faggots because they think just because they have a platform that their thoughts and opinions are worthy of said platform. It's a god damned nightmare.

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So do I user. Fucking bored of this freakshow psyop that's being played out in realtime everywhere. It's actually good just to get out into the country and take a walk through a forest or something similar. Really refocuses the mind.

>Can you show me where this appears on Fortnight or their Instagram feed? Most people do not have any political conception of the internet at all.
And in the 2016 election only half the country actually voted in the election. Clearly not everyone cares about politics but it is important that we win over those that do as they are the only people who matter.

>If the web is the only thing that moves people to action then how did Charter 77 happen?
We are not living under a communist regime. I do not expect a revolution or civil war like many here believe will happen. No one is going to take serious risks while they still live comfortably.

Jow Forums is not the only thing I speak of. Even parts of leddit, facebook, and twitter would never be allowed on TV.

What you miss are merely the days of being young, naive and unaware.
Not knowing what likely was past the borders of your neighborhood, village or town.
Now you have knowledge that spans the entire world and it terrify you.
But that knowledge is what will lead us upon a road that will let us solve that problem.
As in turn, it is not a course of destruction but correction.

White man's trap

>Jew angry that he can no longer use teevee to control the goyim.

The leftists on the web are trying to control the narrative on the internet but it is much harder to do as there are a fuck ton of people on the internet and only a few in other forms of media. There is a reason facebook is trying to use AI to get rid of "hatespeech". Information on the internet cannot be properly contained, for now.