(OP) # Does the 200,000 comfort women as claimed by Korean Whether really are sex slaves who have been forcefully kidnapped, raped, compelled and massacred as they say so?
A $30 million US Government Study specifically searched for evidence on Comfort Women allegations. After nearly seven years with many dozens of staff pouring through US archives -- and 30 million dollars down the drain -- we found a grand total of nothing.
Read here >However the IWG expressed its disappointments because the IWG uncovered and released few Asian theatre records. Thus, the IWG apologized to the Global Alliance for Preserving the History of WWII in Asia which was involved in the commencement of this project.[13]
>The IWG published a report focused on the Japanese war crime titled Researching Japanese War Crimes, Introductory Essays. In the report, the IWG analyzed the reason why comfort women document were scarce:[14]
There is no any real evidence of backing up the story of kidnapped and massacred 200,000 sex-slaves (Comfort Women) in World War II or so. What we have is only testimonies which suddenly appeared arround 1980 and it is not backing up any real evidence at all.
Yes Japanese did some of rape in the war as it’s happned every other war by every other army of the world even this century, but those criminal case was arrested and punished by Japanese police themselfs and court after the war. The Point is "exaggerated imfometion". Massacre ,mass rape and mass kidnap of comfort woman by command of Japanese army was no any evidence as result of survey of national American team. The final IWG report to Congress. archives.gov/iwg/reports/final-report-2007.pdf
Agencies were advised that particular attention should be given to locating any records related to "so-called 'comfort women' program, the Japanese systematic enslavement of women of subject populations for sexual purposes."[10][11][12] However the IWG expressed its disappointments because the IWG uncovered and released few Asian theatre records. Thus, the IWG apologized to the Global Alliance for Preserving the History of WWII in Asia which was involved in the commencement of this project.[13]
The IWG published a report focused on the Japanese war crime titled Researching Japanese War Crimes, Introductory Essays. In the report, the IWG analyzed the reason why comfort women document were scarce:[14]
"Licensed prostitution was legal in prewar Japan, and Allied officials viewed the small part of the overseas system they uncovered as an extension of homeland practices. Prosecuting Japanese soldiers for rape, a notorious crime everywhere the army set foot, took precedence over investigating the circumstances of “comfort women,” who were seen as professional prostitutes, not as unwilling victims coerced into brothels by employees of the Japanese military."
This analysis is in line with the "Japanese Prisoner of War Interrogation Report 49" written in 1944 which describes "A 'comfort girl' is nothing more than a paied prostitute or 'professional camp follower' attached to the Japanese Army for the benefit of the soldiers."[15]
Easton Evans
here is payslip of comfort woman too. Actually comfort woman before made court in Japan to demand salary which not clear that paied or not, according her. and she submitted real pay slip. At the time of salary details (about 40,000) submitted to the Japanese court in 1993 by a wartime comfort woman themselfs.
At that time 40,000 is equivalent to 20 million yen now.
A former comfort women made a trial in 1992 that they wanted us to refund the money she collected at that time to the Japanese post office. 26,145 yen (now converted about 40 million yen) which we deposited 12 times from June 1943 to September 1945. At the time of salary details (about 40,000) submitted to the Japanese court in 1993 by a wartime comfort woman themselfs. At that time 40,000 is equivalent to 20 million yen now.
· Monthly income comparison salary comparison 1943 · Prime Minister 800 yen Tojo Hideki · General Army 550 yen · Sergeant Chair 32 ~ 75 yen · Sergeant Armament 23 ~ 32 yen · Corporal, 20 Yen · Heavyweight commander 13,5 yen · Secondary soldier 10,5 yen · First class soldier 9 yen · Second Nurse Secondary 9 ~ 6 yen The comfort women at the time repaid the parent's debt after being prepaid from 300 yen to 1500 yen. You can see how expensive it was by looking at this table
comfort woman was paied more than the income of high classed soldiers. It has those record too. Pic is one of it. There is a lot of those record that the comfort woman had so high income. Not Japanese army kidnapped and massacred 200,000 sex-slaves (Comfort Women) or so. There is no any real evidence backing up that story. But there is a lot of evidence that Korean local business man hire the comfort woman and pay them as well. This is nothing but a job. And It's not a so call "sex slave" at all.
Every country is useing Military Brothel. All of the Japanese never disagree that Japanese used military Brothel from local Korean argency. But just there is no any official evidence that Japanese mass kidnapeing or mass raped women until die or massacred all the comfort woman after Japanese raped, or those story. That is what Japanese agsinst about.
Evidence means such as like docment about Military Conference document Which the army kidnaped so many women, So many times, it must be those documents too. Or even Police record. There is 0 those kind of docment. What we have is only testimony which is suddenly appeared 1980 arround. And those testimonies are not backing up any real evidence.
After nearly seven years with many dozens of staff pouring through US archives -- and 30 million dollars down the drain -- we found a grand total of nothing. Pls read The final IWG report to Congress. archives.gov/iwg/reports /final-report-2007.pdf
Gavin Campbell
OP pic reminds me of north korean's fake crying when kim jong il died
Charles Bailey
Some people says "there is no evidence of comfort woman becouse Japanese destroyed them". Japanese can't destroy that :all of those huge amount of entire evidence:and docment of war criminals with short time. Imagine, kidnap, rape and massacre 200,000 comfort women As the sex slave and bring all of them in the middle of the war even in jungle, even in city...is too big warcriminals if it really happened. How can Japanese could destroy all of those evidence of very big war criminals entirely if it’s really happned? Also if you says after the end of war they could destroy the all of the evidence of comfort women , then How could Japan has destroyed documents if Japan had already surrendered and under the control of USA? Since They even researched about the secret of Japanese imperial family and so on of those deepest pert of Japanese imfometion also. Its just impossible and excuse for there is no any evidence of comfort woman .
Justin Evans
Why are Japanese such sick motherfuckers? Almost as degenerate as Germans. Almost.
Samuel Ortiz
Please stay on 2chan until you learn proper english. Thanks
next. How much we compensated to korea. And the reason why korean keep on saying that Japanese never apologized and compensate at all even now without stop. The only reason of this is the money. Korean never stop to asking compensation even now.
First of all, we paid $ 300 million for free, $ 200 million for a fee and $ 300 million for a private loan in the 1965 Japan-Korea Basic Treaty. Totaling $ 800 million.
This amount was more than twice the Korean national budget at the time.
Since this amount is at that time, I will convert the monetary value to this age. Also, consider only 300 million of the $ 800 million free of charge.
· (Conversion to yen) $ 300 million × 360 yen (then $ 1 = 360 yen) = $ 108 billion · (Price conversion) 108 billion yen × 10 (the initial salary of the university graduate at that time is about 20,000 yen) = 1,080 billion yen
Suppose we divide this as a total of 900,000 persons who compensate for 700,000 compulsory entrainment workers and 200,000 comfort women as claimed by Korea (there were few cases such as compulsory entourage, veteran comfort women etc.) Despite discussions, of course, here we calculate Korean assertions with 100% drinking figures.)
· (Converted victims of compulsory victims) 1,080 billion yen / 900,000 people / 1,200,000 yen / person
Nathaniel Evans
Based nips
Joseph Ortiz
Furthermore, Japan has abandoned the assets left in the pre-war Korea. This is an act that is fully applicable as post-war reparation, as the precedent that Indian individuals that Indian had in India were returned to India when India became independent from Britain. Amazingly it was that amount, and in the survey by the General HQ Private Bureau of Management, it was $ 5.3 billion, excluding military assets. (Ministry of Finance Ministry of Finance History "Showa Finance History From the End of the War to Peace" Toyo Keizai Inc.) In case In other words, Japan has made a huge amount of compensation for South Korea with $ 5.3 billion in prewar assets and $ 800 million in war reparations. And in the Japan - Korea Basic Treaty, the following words are written. "Confirm that post-war processing will be complete and ultimately resolved" (Article 2, Article 1 of the Agreement) However, after the conclusion of the treaty, South Korea utilized the liquidation money from Japan for national development without paying individuals for compensation. There is no doubt that the economic growth of Korea, which was said to be "the Han River's miracle", was made with the efforts of the Korean people, with the liquidation paid for this North and South Korea as the driving force. And the Korean government has not surprisingly informed the people about this treaty. Is it to conceal what diverted to national development without paying to individuals? Or maybe it is to aim for mood of anti-Japanese emotions forever? Or both? For that reason, Koreans still considers that Japan is not fulfilling its liability, is outraged, is suing lawsuits for damages that ended in Japan, and one of the big gaps between Japan and Korea is there. I think that it is necessary to know this well as well as Korean citizens and Japanese people.
Charles Rodriguez
Also add more here the Japanese paied again and again at 2015 korea japan agreements of comfort woman. ""Japan paied 1 billion yen again at 2015."" almost all of old comfort woman took money and accepted comfort woman agreements at the time of president park. But Korean media hide it. Japan paied 1 billion yen again at 2015 comfort woman final agreements and Korean gorvenment did like those, 1. Pay 10 million yen to surviving comfort women based on the Korea-Japan Agreement and pay 2 million yen to bereaved families of death comfort women. 2. Three-quarters of surviving comfort women, namely 36 out of 47 people accepted, of which 34 have already received aid. 3. Of the family members of 199 death comfort women, they also accepted bereaved families of 68 people. Comfort women and their families as parties accepted and reconciled money as a problem with the Korea-Japan Agreement, but only president moon has provoked and instigated as if the agreement had problems.
Gabriel Rodriguez
Koreans: > No culture > Hyper Americanized pop garbage > Consumerism > Judeo-American circumcision is prevalent
Japan: > Genuine native culture > No Judeo-American circumcision > Has retained traditions despite being occupied for decades > Always told to apologize, never does it, still loved by the world for their great and unique culture
James Moore
Also this. A former comfort women made a trial in 1992 that they wanted us to refund the money she collected at that time to the Japanese post office. 26,145 yen (now converted about 40 million yen) which we deposited 12 times from June 1943 to September 1945.
At the time of salary details (about 40,000) submitted to the Japanese court in 1993 by a wartime comfort woman themselfs. At that time 40,000 is equivalent to 20 million yen now.
· Monthly income comparison salary comparison 1943 · Prime Minister 800 yen (Tojo Hideaki), Tojo Hideki · General Army 550 yen · Sergeant Chair 32 ~ 75 yen · Sergeant Armament 23 ~ 32 yen · Corporal, 20 Yen · Heavyweight commander 13,5 yen · Secondary soldier 10,5 yen · First class soldier 9 yen · Second Nurse Secondary 9 ~ 6 yen The comfort women at the time repaid the parent's debt after being prepaid from 300 yen to 1500 yen. You can see how expensive it was by looking at this table
Snip snip user, you have missed your weekly circumcision
Nicholas Brooks
Well next is whether this is high or not. Well, Germany has ample compensation after the war. Let 's refer to Germany who has an apprentice to remember Germany and a newspaper company. Compensation for German forced laborers is between 300,000 and 800,000 in present value conversion, even the highest Jewish slave labor is 800,000 yen. It can be seen from this objective that Japan's post-war reparation to Korea was at a very high level.
The total amount of 800 million dollars as well as free of charge is 2.3 times the Korean national budget at the time, which shows how high it was. Incidentally, this amount of compensation is for all areas of the Korean Peninsula, they took money for noth korea from japan and used it for South Korea. And still asking compensation from japan even now. That’s a hypocritical of south Korea only thinking about the money
massacer 50,000–300,000 normal civilians by Japanese army is impossible also no any evidence. It's exaggerated imfometion on purpose. Japanese made war act in Nanking but its normal war act.
The So-Called Nanking Massacre was a clearly Fabrication.
Look at here. Photo of Every Nanking massacre was fabricated or photo of the civil war of china. Anyway about Nanking look at this website.very clear about Nanking massacre. www2.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Eremnant/nankingm.htm
War act in Nanking was true, we did war at Nanking And fight against Chinese but massacer 50,000–300,000 normal civilian is impossible and exaggerated propaganda on propose.
Julian Gonzalez
I'll explain how we can say so, Military involvement is necessary to massacre 300,000 people in Nanjing, but the military systematically noevidence of involvement has been found.Documents of the military strategy conference etc. Initially, in terms of population transition, since there are only 250,000 people in Nanjing city population (actually the Nanjing citizens' refugee population at the time of occupation), 300,000 people (insisted by the Chinese side) can not be killed and 300,000 people He insisted that he was fictional. Luis S · Smyce, secretary general of Nanjing International Safety Zone International CommitteeIn the war damage survey conducted three months after the fall of Nanking (Smyth Report), the population of Nanjing is 250,000 people.The findings of these international organizations are general materials.
Indiscriminate massacres of the general public have no evidence at all. Even if the Chinese government conducts a survey on the national scale over the half century or more, the remains of the bone of the dead citizens in Nanking was supriseingly nothing in founded. This Nanking massacre is clear propaganda made by Chinese.
Juan Powell
Most of the pictures related to the Nanking Massacre are those of anti-Japanese movies and the Chinese civil war.Many Chinese were killed by Chinese soldiers during the civil war in those days, and there are many such pictures. So, this is the easiest way.It is true that the Chinese government was makeing fake photography.
Benjamin Valentino estimates that between 1927 and 1949, the death toll among the Chinese between the civil war is 1.8 million to 3.5 million.The Chinese are killing each other 10 times as many as the so called Nanjing massacre.Here is all complete evidence.
Even if the war acts by Japanese soldiers were in Nanjing,Since the Chinese army at that time did not surrender, the enemy soldier in war fields must be immediately shoot the gun. Even in the sense of self-defense, it is normal war acts that Japanese soldiers attack Chinese soldiers,under international law. Of course.
And as chinese soldiers turned into civilians as clothing soldiers, they are engaged in terrorist activities of the Japanese army.Under international law, even if we treat them, even if we give some civilian damage, international law will be the responsibility of the Chinese army who implemented the strategy.And there is no logical evidence that Japanese soldiers attacked Chinese civilians aimed at.
Samuel James
Stalin deported a huge number of Russian Koreans because they were perceived as a threat to national security and possible Japanese collaborators, and the thing with Soviet deportations is that human losses exceeded 20% of those of deported.
Guess what? No one gives us shit, everyone's focused on Muslims that got the same treatment: Chechens and Crimean Tatars were deported too.
I didn't hear Koreans seething towards Russia so it's not in their national characters, Muslims have literally nothing else going in their lives. Chechens once tried to rebel precisely because of this and Crimean Tatars are in harsh opposition to the Russian annexation of Crimea.
Asher Hernandez
*I didn't hear Koreans seething towards Russia so it's not in their national characters,
what do you mean about it?
Jayden Fisher
Most nations take offense at the smallest misdeed, the Soviets fucked up Korea in half and they don't express any hatred. Deported them? No biggie.
Japan on the other hand provokes them to negative emotions
Nathaniel Bailey
Reason about it is russia has strong military and there is no possibility that Russia compensate to Korea
How much we compensated to korea. And the reason why korean keep on saying that Japanese never apologized and compensate at all even now without stop. The only reason of this is the money. Korean never stop to asking compensation even now.
Korean national character is they keep on make strong attitude to the people who can't hit back.
Try to logically counter argue about this thread. You can't becouse no evidence is existed about those comfort woman story. They are just a paid prostituters.
Brody Butler
Women didn’t have rights, Japanese or Korean, like now. Plenty of Japanese women were forced into sex as well. Not to mention those sold by family or sold themselves for their own money. They need to stop being bitchy Koreans. Hell, the Manchu settlers had to sell all their daughters to the Russians to stop the Chinese from slaughtering them all after the war.
Kevin Bell
Nice meme flag, youre obvously a liar and subverter. Sage.
There's no reason to hide your flag either. You're also preaching to the choir. South Korea actually had protests when Trump visited. For that alone they can feel free to fuck off.
Hunter Roberts
Of you accepted there is NO existed that any evidence of backing up the story for the200,000 comfort women were really sex slaves who have been forcefully kidnapped, raped, compelled and massacred as they say, Then good.
Anthony Hughes
I was in South Korea when Trump visited. The US press didn't cover it but there were daily South Korean Pro America protests. They blocked traffic for hours and marched through the streets waving American and South Korean flags. I stayed away because it's not my business but as an American I was pretty sad our news media ignored those guys. Mostly older Korean wars vets and shit.
Sure, there was a pro Japan faction in Korea during WW2. When Japan came in they basically forced the pro China/Russia faction to submit and turned women from that region into whores. You probably already know this. I agree it wasn't so cut and dry as far as forcing them into sex slavery, however, given the age of some of the girls it's fair to say they were raped and abused.
I'm with you on the apology stuff though, it gets old.
Jeremiah Stewart
Problem is the exaggerated propaganda story. If you accepted there is NO existed that any evidence of backing up the story for the200,000 comfort women were really sex slaves who have been forcefully kidnapped, raped, compelled and massacred as they say, Then good.
Nolan Scott
*When Japan came in they basically forced the pro China/Russia faction to submit and turned women from that region into whores.
Where is the evidence and backing up imfometion about it? Sbmit evidence.
Wyatt Cook
Among the people you accept are that evidence supporting the story for 200,000 comfort women was forcibly kidnapped, raped, compelled, slaughtered sex slaves, Then good.
Noah Parker
Among the people you accept, 200,000 comfort women are forced to be kidnapped, raped, forced, abused sex slaves, Then good.
Camden Green
Of the people you accept, 200,000 comfort women are raped, raped, compelled, abused sexual slavery, Then good.
Agencies were advised that particular attention should be given to locating any records related to "so-called 'comfort women' program, the Japanese systematic enslavement of women of subject populations for sexual purposes."[10][11][12] However the IWG expressed its disappointments because the IWG uncovered and released few Asian theatre records. Thus, the IWG apologized to the Global Alliance for Preserving the History of WWII in Asia which was involved in the commencement of this project.[13]
The IWG published a report focused on the Japanese war crime titled Researching Japanese War Crimes, Introductory Essays. In the report, the IWG analyzed the reason why comfort women document were scarce:[14]
"Licensed prostitution was legal in prewar Japan, and Allied officials viewed the small part of the overseas system they uncovered as an extension of homeland practices. Prosecuting Japanese soldiers for rape, a notorious crime everywhere the army set foot, took precedence over investigating the circumstances of “comfort women,” who were seen as professional prostitutes, not as unwilling victims coerced into brothels by employees of the Japanese military."
This analysis is in line with the "Japanese Prisoner of War Interrogation Report 49" written in 1944 which describes "A 'comfort girl' is nothing more than a paied prostitute or 'professional camp follower' attached to the Japanese Army for the benefit of the soldiers."[15] >>
Evan Clark
>evidence and backing up imfometion about it? lel, there is no evidence for any of this shit, history is a pack of lies. whatever happened, you lost the plot with korea.
Daniel Anderson
Among accept your wings, 200,000 women were forced to be comfortable with the abduction, rape Expect an ulcer, and forced us, Then something good.
Agencies were advised that particular attention should be given to locating any records related to "so-called 'comfort women' program, the Japanese systematic enslavement of women of subject populations for sexual purposes."[10][11][12] However the IWG expressed its disappointments because the IWG uncovered and released few Asian theatre records. Thus, the IWG apologized to the Global Alliance for Preserving the History of WWII in Asia which was involved in the commencement of this project.[13]
The IWG published a report focused on the Japanese war crime titled Researching Japanese War Crimes, Introductory Essays. In the report, the IWG analyzed the reason why comfort women document were scarce:[14]
"Licensed prostitution was legal in prewar Japan, and Allied officials viewed the small part of the overseas system they uncovered as an extension of homeland practices. Prosecuting Japanese soldiers for rape, a notorious crime everywhere the army set foot, took precedence over investigating the circumstances of “comfort women,” who were seen as professional prostitutes, not as unwilling victims coerced into brothels by employees of the Japanese military."
This analysis is in line with the "Japanese Prisoner of War Interrogation Report 49" written in 1944 which describes "A 'comfort girl' is nothing more than a paied prostitute or 'professional camp follower' attached to the Japanese Army for the benefit of the soldiers."[15] >>
Juan Johnson
im just fucking around, chang
Jonathan Gomez
Problem is the exaggerated propaganda story. If you accepted there is NO existed that any evidence of backing up the story for the200,000 comfort women were really sex slaves who have been forcefully kidnapped, raped, compelled and massacred as they say, Then good.
Aiden Flores
this is also official docments of USA national archives.
Japanese Prisoner of War Interrogation Report No. 49 (1944)
OFFICE OF WAR INFORMATION Warfare Team Attached to U.S. Army Forces India-Burma Theater APO 689 Japanese Prisoner of War Interrogation Report No. 49. Place interrogated: Ledo Stockade Date Interrogated: Aug. 20 - Sept. 10, 1944 Date of Report: October 1, 1944 By: T/3 Alex Yorichi
Prisoners: 20 Korean Comfort Girls Date of Capture: August 10, 1944 Date of Arrival: August 15, 1994 at Stockade
*this documents has those record. A "comfort girl" is nothing more than a prostitute or "professional camp follower" attached to the Japanese Army for the benefit of the soldiers. The word "comfort girl" is peculiar to the Japanese. Other reports show the "comfort girls" have been found wherever it was necessary for the Japanese Army to fight. This report however deals only with the Korean "comfort girls" """recruited"""by the Japanese and attached to their Army in Burma.
As you can see they are not forcefully kidnaped like Slave hunting or such at all. Comfort woman was recruited paied prostituter. Not kidnaped forcefully raped as sex slave and massacred or those things at all. Comfort woman was paied prostituter. Nothing more, nothing less.
