Reminder that this is the remnant of the actual U.S.A.
>followed the Constitution literally >had the most descendants of the Revolutionary War >almost no immigration between the Revolution and Civil War
These people got their wealth stolen by a tyrannical government and are still willing to fight for freedom, even to the modern day. Being in any way against the South not only shows you ignorance of history but also you ignorance of facts.
good guys lost. same thing happened in 1945. no idea why all of these christfags think someone is gonna come and save them all the time. every single time, that's what seals their doom. the side that doesn't think jesus is going to descend from the sky and magically fix all of their problems and kill all of the people that they dislike is always going to win.
Tyler Phillips
you're speaking truth to power, user god bless my southern brothers
I come from New England but am able to recognize what happened to the actual United States during this terrible war. Please forgive my ancestors for having no foresight.
Gavin Moore
>start a war you can't win >lose
Aaron Campbell
>good guys lost in 1945 Not. Fuck the nazis. Not everyone wants their life prescribed to them. National socialism is still socialism. If there's a hell, nazis can sure as fuck burn there.
Why don't more people blame the Founding Fathers for being overly naive and setting a ticking time bomb (slavery) that was bound to explode at some point. When it did, we lost more Americans than we have in WW1, WW2, and all wars since. I agree with liberal historians that slavery is our original sin, but the sinners were the founding fathers themselves.
Anthony Martin
>dying so some rich guy who bought his way out of the draft can keep fucking his negresses and making illegitimate mutt babies >"principle and morals"
Wanted to add that the North literally had foreign hordes fighting the Civil War for them against the homogeneous South which was outnumbered 4 to 1 and still managed to hold out against the Jewish hordes for 4 years.
>homogeneous south >literally had niggers but the North had Irish and German divisions so it was ok
Michael Morgan
>"""""""homogeneous"""""""
Daniel Lopez
As an obligatory history major going to Law School next year, you are completely incorrect.
The North was the region with the ability to buy off service, hence the New York Draft Riots. The South had almost, with the exception of about 0.1% of the rich population, being drafted to the military. And they did not grumble in even comparable numbers to the North, where less than 1/3 of the eligible population grumbled about the war.
The South was, objectively, far more invested in the war than the North was. This is an objective fact that cannot be disputed.
I don't agree that the good guys lost, though I do agree the Confederacy would have joined the Axis Powers in World War II had they won the Civil War.
Luis Brown
>niggers not considered people were considered in any sort of democratic capacity
Holy shit is reddit invading?
Nathan Morris
>Why don't more people blame the Founding Fathers for being overly naive and setting a ticking time bomb (slavery) that was bound to explode at some point. because the fundamental lie of America is that the founding fathers were geniuses beyond their age when they were actually just decently educated upperclassmen who didn't want to follow the King's rules anymore. Had the crown allowed us representation in parliament and settlement across the Appalachians, I have no doubt we would've still been part of the commonwealth today. Hell, the 2nd British Empire may have never actually taken off and the original Empire in North America could've made it all the way down to Central America and maybe even pushed into South America.
>had niggers and actively imported the into the country >but the North brought Hans and Sheamus so it was ok
Is this the thinking Dixies do to downgrade the pain of destroying a nation?
Samuel Morgan
Jefferson realized slavery would have to be addressed at some point, but they didn't want to alienate the southern states since they needed their support to adopt the constitution.
>i don't understand economics and the social standing of the country during the revolution
Reddit, everyone.
Easton Davis
Do you have any sources to support the claim that 99.9% of the population was drafted in the South? And my point still remains, that Southern plantation owners who actually benefited from slavery could pay their way out of the draft while the poor whites hurt by slavery had to do the fighting. You were the faggots who wanted them to count as an entire person for the census, retard
Joshua Williams
I wouldn't be so mad either at the people who brought grandpopop into the nation
I'm a yankee and while I love my dixiebros, they're not called cucks for nothing. Lincoln was objectively the best POTUS that we've ever had. He's everything you want Donald Trump to be.
>tfw he was even anti-kike since slave-owning class was disportionately kike and CSA Sec of State was also a kike
As you can see, almost everyone who was fit for the military was drafted.
Slaves were meant to count as a person only for the sake of preserving the South's ability to retain some level of independence under the states in Presidential elections. This entire debate was brought up due to foreign hordes that the North was immigrating due to a desire to outvote the South through sheer numbers (sound similar to the Democratic Party and Latinos today?)
Oliver Hughes
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_Prohibiting_Importation_of_Slaves >The Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves of 1807 (2 Stat. 426, enacted March 2, 1807) is a United States federal law that stated that no new slaves were permitted to be imported into the United States. It took effect in 1808, the earliest date permitted by the United States Constitution.
White the union army was ~40-45% first+second generation immigrant, the men who fought for the south were almost all sons and grandsons of men who fought in the war of 1812. If you can't understand why importing literal foreigners to kill people descend from those who fought in both the Revolution and the War of 1812 is a bad thing then there's no getting through to you.
Brandon Smith
Hi Colbert Report, want to study immigration from the Revolutionary war to the start of the Civil War?
>We stopped importing blacks so it was ok! It is funny, because those people who fought against you cared more about our country than yourself. You should of exported those blacks to Liberia as we liked, but that was too hard because you didn't want to work. You drink the grapes of wrath, too bad, so sad. I had ancestors in all three regiments, the Irish brigade, the German brigade, and the American brigade all fighting against the race-mixing, degenerate South and I am proud of that fact.
Matthew Clark
you are a fool marxists.org/archive/marx/iwma/documents/1864/lincoln-letter.htm >While the workingmen, the true political powers of the North, allowed slavery to defile their own republic, while before the Negro, mastered and sold without his concurrence, they boasted it the highest prerogative of the white-skinned laborer to sell himself and choose his own master, they were unable to attain the true freedom of labor, or to support their European brethren in their struggle for emancipation; but this barrier to progress has been swept off by the red sea of civil war. >The workingmen of Europe feel sure that, as the American War of Independence initiated a new era of ascendancy for the middle class, so the American Antislavery War will do for the working classes. They consider it an earnest of the epoch to come that it fell to the lot of Abraham Lincoln, the single-minded son of the working class, to lead his country through the matchless struggle for the rescue of an enchained race and the reconstruction of a social world.
>literally 20% of southerners have trace resemblance of black dna >irrelevant k
Easton Jenkins
The only error of the South was John Wilkes Boothe, who through his autism prevented Abraham Lincoln from implementing his "Back to Africa" program in which all former slaves would be deported back to the continent of Africa.
John Nguyen
Actually none of that is true. They followed the "Articles of Confederation" that was actually the original constitution drafted. However our founding fathers quickly realized thatit was not a good way to get free from the Brits. That being said, once the Souther States used that as a blue print, they sealed their fate im the civil war. Without that strong central government, there was refusal to send state troops to defend other states. So basically their own constitution let them lose the war due to selfishness. >the South Lost due to disunity >The United States won due to unity.
Xavier Campbell
Agreed in a way, the only other issue was allowing the non-American slave owning class to control your politics. Your ancestors never slaves, they were probably poor farmers, but they fought and died for their non-American aristocratic class to continue to own blacks.
David Anderson
Source of intermixing in people claimed as White in the Census? All you're confirming is that some rape occurred between the plantation class of the 1800's and the descendants were classified as black despite having some European ancestry.
hey southern bros. I love dixie. I'm from michigan but my grandparents from both sides moved up here from the south will you accept me? Family on my fathers side fought for the rebels.
Self proclaimed "European"-Americans in the South generally have a small degree of black ancestry >OMG They are mix-raced! Not according to the census, they're marked down as white. The only real whites in the South are Cletus, carpetbaggers, and Yankee immigrants or descendants thereof
Charles Smith
He would have deported the coons if it wasn't for you dixiecvck.
Ryder Brown
ugh, that flag is the original virtue signal
Ethan Garcia
Checked and Reddit completely obliterated.
Jace Evans
Once again >macromanaging a plantation full of slaves and living of its wealth >working Employment, but not actual work.
Adam Smith
The Civil War was a Masonic setup
Aaron Price
Yeah, the Union was persuaded through Lincoln to attack the defenders of the Constitution.
>In just a little over a year – in what will be an historic 150-year anniversary – the American people, and likely people all around the world, will come together in remembrance of the man who was once rather preposterously described by a biographer as “the most gentle, most magnanimous, most Christ-like ruler of all time.” That man, of course, was Abraham Lincoln, allegedly the 16thand most beloved President of theseUnited States.
>I say “allegedly” here because it is hard to see how someone could be the president of an entity that didn’t actually exist. And the reality is that duringLincoln’s tenure, there was no such thing as the “United” States. There were Northern states presided over byWashington, and there were Confederate states presided over by a parallel government inRichmond, but there certainly weren’t any “united” states. Wouldn’t it then be just as accurate to describe Jefferson Davis as the 16thpresident of theUnited States? Just checking.
>...
>As we all know, Abraham Lincoln was assassinated by famed actor and Southern sympathizer John Wilkes Booth on the evening of April 14, 1865 (which happened to be Good Friday) while attending a play at Ford’s Theater in Washington, DC. Just five days earlier, General Robert E. Lee had surrendered to General Ulysses S. Grant atAppomattox, effectively signaling an end to the unfathomably bloody US Civil War. What is less widely known is that the assassination ofLincolnwas allegedly part of a larger plot that was to have included the simultaneous assassinations of General Grant, Vice President Andrew Johnson, Secretary of State William Seward and Secretary of War Edwin Stanton.
>increasingly pandered to abolitionists throughout his presidency >signed a document freeing slaves in hopes it would cause mass slave revolt and possible murder/rape of White women and children in the south >h-haha he was based man woulda deported those niggers BASED LINCOLN!!!11 The Republican party was an Abolitionist party. There is a reason one of the first things they allowed in the south was the repeal of anti-miscegenation laws. You are uneducated and naive.
You do not free a lion before you ship it to the zoo. You keep it in its cage Lincoln made the choice to open the cage.
>all slave owners managed the affairs of their own estate and didn't outsource the majority of the work to someone else Do you even understand how farming works? Do you even understand how many slaves the average slave owner had? You didn't cite any source and you clearly haven't even been to a farm. Not every slave owner had 100 pickaninnies in the field all day every day, nor does farming require there be 100 hands in the field every day of the year. Your knowledge of the antebellum south is straight out of uncle tom's cabin.
Dylan Hill
No. That is a one party state run by the Democrats. All of us here have no love for the Democrats of today. As such, I don't get why would you adore a country run entirely by them.
Zachary Long
>he thinks I mean all southern farms were plantations
David Reyes
>against nazi scum. so long as you mean Allen Dulles and the Warburg, Rothschild people who funded that shit I totally agree
Benjamin Cruz
>Jefferson realized slavery would have to be addressed at some point, as he did every evening with his masterful half white penis?
Carson Morgan
>John Wilkes Boothe, another jesuit cunt
Kayden Miller
>Oy vey goy any real american would be against NAZIS
>Not everyone wants their life prescribed to them.
Guess how I know you're fresh and probably just barely of age. Protip: It's because you're a fucking retard that believes Jewish memes about the NSDAP and what life was like under their regime. Fucking dipshit.
Christopher Reed
Hitler was put into office so he could build a sandcastle for FDR to kick over.
Xavier Gray
So funny! You're like the African Americans of White USA!
Ryder Wilson
Which is exactly why the claim that the war was about slavery is low iq. The southern slave owners had to keep the economy going and the non-slave owners (see the majority) were not about to fight a war to maintain the right to keep slaves they didn’t have to begin with. The confederacy had already agreed to an economic plan with Britain and France which included an agreement to abolish slavery within five years following the end of hostilities in America. The real debate was over gradual emancipation which the south supported and total abolition which the north was reluctant to go for until they realized it would collapse the southern economy
Kayden Martin
Lincoln cared about keeping the Union together at all costs. He was pretty open about not liking slavery but didn't care to fight a war to free slaves. It was only after a few years of the Civil War did he emancipate the slaves to try to destabilize the south.
>You keep it in its cage Lincoln made the choice to open the cage. You fucks just could not stand that the next state wouldn't be a slave state and so decided to leave over that, forcing Lincoln's hand. History/time is linear you twat. You also forget that those slaves also gave slave states more voting power as they were considered 3/5s of a person but could not vote, giving the south massive amounts of representation. The southern power trip was real.
The civil war had been an on-going economic Cold War since John Quincy Adams
Dylan Harris
And Lincoln was open about not wanting to allow slavery to spread into the western territories, which pissed off the south enough to leave.
Jeremiah King
Cheating jews want slaves to count as 3/5 reprensentation. Fuck the south
Chase Nelson
The South would have had more Congressmen if niggers counted as 5/5 of whole men.
Xavier Parker
>I stole 3 dollars from your pocket from your pocket, but you still have your other 2 dollars. Great argument.
Nathan Miller
*obvious error*
Nathan Edwards
There are many people who don't get the 3/5 compromise.
Hunter Collins
>muh evil nabzies >a fucking ameritard Go ally with your commie jews again against europe and import all your kikery and niggerdom on us. You utter low-iq sack of lard. Your people do not deserve to live. When the chinese enslave your mutt nation i will celebrate the final retribution you so deserve
Lincoln Campbell
If Lancahire mill owners had of had their way the British would have smashed the Union blockade and the outcome would have been very different.
Lincoln only made the war about abolition after the Union got it's assed kicked in the early battles.
I'd love to see the CSA rise again but your nigger problem is now just overwhelming.
Hudson Young
You have a group of people who can't vote but can breed (often forced to breed for the sake of profit), and so their states get to use their existence to increase their own political power over the rest of the country.
>There are many people who don't get the 3/5 compromise. Says the guy who wrote "Abolition Proclamation".
Jace Clark
When congressional districts are apportioned; California should only be allowed to count 300 out of every 500 illegal aliens. That should cause them to lose Congresscritters and electoral votes.
Anthony Flores
>lost to a bigger payroll >vs an army using standardized tactics >surrendered These things seem unamerican.
Yes lets call ourselves the same thing wear the same colors to that will make battle lines amazing. Being so stupid not to realize that the confederacy did that so that people could have loyalty to their new nation.
If he had agreed to a constutional amendment limiting the maximum tariff that feral Federal Government could charge to 5%, maybe, the South would not have left the union.