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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

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no

Do races differ genetically?
Are races equally intelligent?
Can you please answer these questions comrade?

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Yes.
No.

Whats your point.

What is the main cause of migration and diffusion of culture?

You will say Jews, I will say globalization.

Who manipulates the world through the economy and media?

You will say the Jews and I will say a borgeouise elite.

See I have 2 words to describe two different phenomena more specifically. You only have one word to describe everything. It is because of this that communists can have a more detailed outlook of the world.

You talk about the constant subversion and manipulation of meanings in words but if all you can say is "Jew" to describe the world then what does it matter?

can I still sell my meme apparel under communist dictate?
>treats4neets.com

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centrism will win.

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Mashallah, the fire rises

Selling heroin to middle class kids is a legitimate form of class warfare

>What is the main cause of migration and diffusion of culture?
Race denial.
>You will say Jews, I will say globalization.
No, it's race denial. Race denial is actually widespread and people think that accepting immigrants is merely helping poor people.
>Who manipulates the world through the economy and media?
There's no one in charge of everything in the world, that's a schizo mentality. There are thousands of different organizations competing for influence around the world.
>You only have one word to describe everything. It is because of this that communists can have a more detailed outlook of the world.
LOL the fucking irony. Your answers were that capitalism is to blame for everything. You are unironically mentally retarded. You lack self reflection.

>You talk about the constant subversion and manipulation of meanings in words but if all you can say is "Jew" to describe the world then what does it matter?
Look at that psychological projection. Who's the one with conspiracy theories here? Who's the one who assumes the world is controlled by a single entity? Who's the one who can't stop thinking about jews?

You are closer to nazis than I am. You are in a mental struggle between blaming "Jews" and "Borgeousise elite".

Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

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Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

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I strongly believe you are lying for the sake of not even starting the discussion. What's the point?? Do you not see any conflict between communism and the fact that there are entire races who are less productive? Will you teach blacks that they are less intelligent and their labor is less efficient and thus they deserve less resources? Or will you tax the productivity of white people at 80% to subsidize other races over some religious obsession with equality?

what is it with you demented pedophile ancaps? absolute weirdos go beat your meat to cartoon pictures of kids, freak

So why should Whites accept Communism, which is a Jewish and anti-White ideology?

Projection the post

you know communism is mostly anti-religion right? where did you hear about communism being anti-white or jewish?

ill project my dick into your mothers vagene as she watches you little nerd

you must be 18 to post on this board

>he thinks im joking

>you know communism is mostly anti-religion right?
You want to destroy the soul of humanity, yes.

But the Jews are a race.

>where did you hear about communism being anti-white or jewish?
Communism in its creation, implementation and beliefs is Jewish.
The Jews are inherently anti-White because everything they do harms the White race.
Therefore, Communism is anti-White.

>ill project my dick into your mothers vagene as she watches you little nerd
Yes, we know you judeo communists can't help but rape. you're like niggers in that regard.

HAHAHAHA big bad internet tough commie faggot fuck.. I dare you to come find me faggot

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kys, faggot

ECONOMIC CALCULATION PROBLEM
Please explain to us without resorting to computer memes how do you calculate the value of a good in absence of a market economy

Maybe I jumped the gun - the post was more directed at everyone who usually blames Jews for everything.

With regards to race denial - this sort of charitable acceptance of migrants has only been a recent thing. Usually it has been for utilitarian reasons. ie the Irish in US, Blacks and Asians to UK post-war. And whilst never outright accepted in cultures, for the most part all of those races were able to assimilate over time. The same has not been true for recent migrants because there isn't a need for more labor in many of these economies. Where does race realism come in when migration has been part and parcel of having growing economies? I think its more indicitive of a further shift towards a more capital orientated economy.

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>You want to destroy the soul of humanity
no i want to get rid of pedo priests, child marriage female/male genital mutilation and misguided thoughts and that includes jews

>Maybe I jumped the gun - the post was more directed at everyone who usually blames Jews for everything.
So the Jews aren't responsible for Communism?

>With regards to race denial
Of course you have the deny the existence of race and claim the White race "really doesn't mean anything." That's the only way you can continue to destroy it.

>for the most part all of those races were able to assimilate over time.
races can never assimilate. That is a myth.

>here does race realism come in when migration has been part and parcel of having growing economies?
See? You only care about money and you care nothing for race. That's why Communism is anti-White.

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Reminder to sage, op is literally craving attention, and the negative attention we give is better than the apathy of his peers and family

raping the middle class/bourgeoisie is also a legitimate form of class warfare that i will happily partake in

OP explain to me why the working class should control the means of production. That's the core of socialist economic theory.

>no i want to get rid of pedo priests,
Who do not represent a majority of priests and certainly do not follow the will of God.

>child marriage
only a problem in non-white cultures.

>female genital mutilation
again, only a problem in non-white cultures.

>/male genital mutilation
That's what we get with Jews.

>and misguided thoughts
Yeah...like family, race, history, heritage, culture tradition and faith. Just like all jews you want to turn us into soulless worker automatons.

> and that includes jews
Even though Communism in its beliefs is Jewish?

>raping the middle class/bourgeoisie is also a legitimate form of class warfare that i will happily partake in
Because you're a nigger and all you care about is "MUH DIK."

>Communism in its beliefs is jewish
fucking tell me what are jews mostly? neocon/neoliberal capitalist-extremists you weirdo why would they ever want communism, also tell me where in their religious bullshit does it mention anything that could even remotely be compatible with communism

Fuggin borgissie :DDD xD

t. Garl Margs

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hey it worked well in the past

>this sort of charitable acceptance of migrants has only been a recent thing.
Race denial is a recent thing.
>for the most part all of those races were able to assimilate over time.
They weren't. Even white immigrants do not assimilate.
>Where does race realism come in when migration has been part and parcel of having growing economies?
90% of the people who vote for immigration are race deniers, and they would not do so if they understood the genetic mesh problems.

Again, you were a complete fucking liar. I strongly believe you are just trying to trick me. You are a race denier who doesn't even begin to understand the major role or race denial in modern culture.

Also
>I think its more indicitive of a further shift towards a more capital orientated economy.
What the fuck does that mean? Capital is just investments, and the more investments the more developed an economy is. There's no "capital orientated economy", all economies try to build as much capital as they can. You are just dumie who uses those terms as buzzwords.

>fucking tell me what are jews mostly?
A non-White, inherently anti-White race.

> neocon/neoliberal capitalist-extremists you weirdo why would they ever want communism,
Capitalism is just as Jewish and anti-White as Communism is. You'd have us replace one Jewish, anti-White ideology for another.

>also tell me where in their religious bullshit does it mention anything that could even remotely be compatible with communism
Because the Jews would be in control of everything and everyone and everyone else would be a soulless automaton worker mutt race.

spidarmen noooo

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How do we destroy America?
We need to destroy this shithole
How could we install Communism to America?

also its not about muh dik its about letting loose the proletarian rage on to the oppressor class, class rape is a revolutionary concept look into it

>hey it worked well in the past
You believe that because you have no soul.

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false flagging and talking to a mirror general, based.

Marx corrupted communism with his violent revolutionary ideologies. it gives power-hungry gangsters an excuse to lash out in a destructive manner. Marx's communism doesnt account for the problem of the poor except that they become extinct in the transition, either due to starvation or as cannon fodder for their party overlords, the unlucky survivors reduced to slave labor or enforcers of a new and unfamiliar system.

if communism is to come about, it is to be through peaceful cooperation, the willing disposal of class and then national barriers, slowly over time.

good, then i have nothing holding me back

Karl Marx was a Jew who was very critical of the materialism amongst Jews. He wrote a critique of Jewish culture called "On The Jewish Question". And communal living accounts for the majority of our human existence

What is so "Jewish" about communism anyway? Is General Relativity "Jewish" because Einstein thought it up?

>Of course you have the deny the existence of race and claim the White race "really doesn't mean anything." That's the only way you can continue to destroy it.
White can mean whatever you want it to. Most cultures require myths about where they are from. I think its sad that we are losing these kinds of myths.

>races can never assimilate. That is a myth.
If you are white then you are the product of race mixing anyway. And blacks are fully homosapien so kind of goes against what you are saying.

>See? You only care about money and you care nothing for race. That's why Communism is anti-White.
I've seen assholes of all races. I care more about archetypes to be honest.

>also its not about muh dik its about letting loose the proletarian rage on to the oppressor class, class rape is a revolutionary concept look into it
It's about "muh dik" because Judeo Communists are subhuman.

>good, then i have nothing holding me back
And when you attempt it, you hang on the day of reckoning.

Judeo-Capitalists are worse
Anarchism>Communism>Socialism>C*pitalism

Идeи Лeнинa вeчны.

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Are you an anti-semite?

>you hang on the day of reckoning
LOL when will that be? capitalism is in a state of decline across the world and america is way past its prime, who is gonna save you from those "evil bolsheviks?" trump? lmao

>Karl Marx was a Jew
Therefore he is inherently anti-White. Like all Jews.

Regardless, all Jews are not White and for that reason alone, they and their beliefs have no place in White countries.

>What is so "Jewish" about communism anyway?
A soulless, materialist ideology that puts the Jews in control over the goyim.

> Is General Relativity "Jewish" because Einstein thought it up?
oh my god...he thinks Einstein came up with the theory of relativity. LMAO

>I think its sad that we are losing these kinds of myths.
And you want to destroy them completely by giving the Jews total control over the White race.

>If you are white then you are the product of race mixing anyway.
Oh look. More Jewish lies.

> And blacks are fully homosapien so kind of goes against what you are saying.
Out of Africa is a myth.

>I've seen assholes of all races. I care more about archetypes to be honest.
Non-Whites and anti-Whites have no right to reside in White countries. That disqualifies Communism.

>Judeo-Capitalists are worse
As I already said, Capitalism is just as Jewish as Communism.

National Socialism/Fascism>Everything else>Jewish ideologies.

>Hello Comrades
Hello faggot

>LOL when will that be?
When you Jews have pushed the White race too far.

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>admits Marx is a yid
>still listens to said yid's arguments
What's wrong with you?

>A soulless, materialist ideology that puts the Jews in control over the goyim.
Where is your proof?

>Where is your proof?
That Marx was Jew?
That Lenin was a Jew?
That Trotsky was a Jew?
That the Bolshevik revolution was Jewish?
That the first soviet government was mostly Jewish?
That Stalin was fucking a Jew?
That Stalin was surrounded by Jews?
That Stalin made antisemitism a crime punishable by death?

That there are zero pro-White Jews in positions of power, authority, influence or control?

That all Jews in positions of power, authority, influence or control are anti-White?

if the jews were smart then they wouldnt "push whites too far" change like in your conspiracy theories never happens too fast because then people will notice, it is a slow and insidious process like the slow implementation of communism in america

Capital as in machinery.

And I'm not tricking you. I know there are differences between races and enjoy a good racist joke now and then. I think capitalism forces people to have to integrate though. I think most people don't want to leave their families unless there is a chance of making money amd the amount of remmitances from immigrants proves this.

If you dont have to compete in a global market to sell your labor then this issue goes away

This makes me laugh every single time I see it in one of these failed threads

>if the jews were smart then they wouldnt "push whites too far"
Jews can't help but act anti-White. Nation wrecking is in their DNA.

Prime example is Wiemar Germany.

Eventually they'll place the proverbial straw that will break the proverbial camel's back and that will be it.

your enemy isnt every single jew your real enemy is the oppressor class, they own the banks, media, buy your politicians, push their neoliberal multicultural agenda, they are your enemy dont just narrow it down to one group of people, because if you do then you are overlooking the rest

>your enemy isnt every single jew
Every single non-White in a White country is inherently harmful to the White race.

> your real enemy is the oppressor class, they own the banks, media, buy your politicians, push their neoliberal multicultural agenda,
And you want us to replace all those Jews with different, anti-White Jews.

>because if you do then you are overlooking the rest
If White people had a country of our own, none of this would be happening.

>the oppressor class
funny way to spell jew

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Communism is for faggots.

I just never get this...you hate Jews - the merchant class, the financiers of medieval kingdoms, the owners of all major companies in the developed world

...and your conclusion?

Communism is a Jewish ploy?...When in fact Jews have historically been very successful in class based societies like feudalism, mercantalism and capitalsim.

Can someone explain the logic here?

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Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
gommies.gom/fug/
gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
gommies.gom/ohshid/
gommies.gom/1984/
gommies.gom/guck/
gommies.gom/probaganda/
gommies.gom/XDDDD/
gommies.gom/wheresfood/
gommies.gom/benis/

-----------------------------------------
Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

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Communism killed faggots
Congratulations, you found the common enemy

seriously where do you hear all these outlandish conspiracy theories that communism wants to genocide all whites or something, if that was true i wouldnt support, i dont think anyone would

30-65% of every marxist movement in Europe is Jewish by leadership.

thats a broad estimate, source?

Proof?
I'd say that 90% of all alt-right movements have Zionist leadership through (maybe 30% of them are Jews)

Radical centrism is the way, prove me wrong, I bet you can

>Communism killed faggots
Tell that to the legions of communists wearing rainbows and flying hammers and sickles in pride parades.

So National Socialists is for fat neckbeard basement dwellers? According to your logic.

10/10 bost

came for this

National socialism is just another faggy ideology. Both of you are losers.

You are mentally retarded and extremely ignorant. I think you should just study as opposed to assuming you know everything about the world and have everything figured it out.

Also, you didn't answer my question. How is your race realism even remotely compatible with communism? Will you tell blacks that they are less productive and give them less resources?

thats an american problem, everything america touches it turns to shit

we kill commies is not a meme... and reported sage

So what is your ideology?

Europe is nothing but faggotry and communism. And sucking US cock for protection from Russia.
Try again.

>Europe is nothing but faggotry and communism
i wish. but without the faggotry part

I think strong Russia is just as big problem to America than to Europe

Not really. Geography and nukes are good deterrents.
Communsim is still for faggots, though.

What would you recommend to read?

And i'm more into equal distribution of basic resources. So you have a claim to 1/8bn of all oil,iron,wood,gold produced and you can charge for your produce according to your own valuation of your labour... Its not a mainstream marxist view though.

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fuck off nigger it didnt work go back to starbucks job

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Thanks to China, America will be Communist before Europe
It already is more faggot

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