Are there any actual arguments against homosexuality?

It's self-castration. Sex is breeding and something is wrong when you remove even the symbolic link to that.

Homosexuals live lives of hedonism totally unlike normal people. You could search your whole life and never find a homosexual who doesn't have a venereal disease.

heterosexual sex is pleasurable to reward a behavior that can result in reproduction which is a major goal of any species. Homosex and Masturbation get pleasure with no useful behavior. There is nothing wrong with homosexuals and its not a choice IMO but still its not normal , sexuality exists for reproduction.

>Homosexuals live lives of hedonism totally unlike normal people.
Yes, because normal people can’t be sexually promiscuous...

/thread

>t.bifag
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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I'm a homosexual with no venereal disease.

None of the major medical organizations in the world consider it as such.

i can't believe someone with your flag is posting this.
fuck off.

youtube.com/watch?v=4P2k7a-vxis

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i would love to be gay. imagine not having to deal with women ever. gay sex is incredibly easy. you never heard of a gay incel. have you>?

You could have used that photo to make a better argument than this
what a shitty thread

That's because they were probably raped as children. They probably wished they were incels.

No, by they time they are gay the damage has been done. I weep for them and what they endured at the hands of another human.

nah theyre always happy n jacked when i see them. i dont know why people think theyre opressed

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>That's because they were probably raped as children

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If it makes you feel any better, I’m not a Serb. You can go back to posting about “le based Serbia, savior of the white race” now, Mutt.
Wait, do you actually believe that gay people are the way they are because they were raped?

Acktchuallee... The AMA (I think) did designate it as a mental illness until they caved to pressure from gays. I'm sure some other user has the details. I'm drunk and lazy.

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Lesbian here.

Just a reminder that we are taking over. The fact is women have NEVER been attracted to men: we needed them for protection, economic support and procreation, and sex is what we traded for those things (or they just raped us).

But now? First-world men have been totally domesticated, so no need to worry about violence. We're taking over the work force too, so we can provide for ourselves. And medical science has made procreative sex totally unnecessary; we can just buy the sperm (with our superior earnings) and have it cleanly injected without getting within ten feet of a penis.

Women are naturally more attracted to other women. Who wouldn't be? We're beautiful, soft and smooth and curvy, basically the opposite of hairy oafish ape-like men. And we know how to please each other like no man ever could. Lesbian sex can last for hours.

Every day more and more "straight" girls are being turned. The world of the future is where a small number of strong men act as our designated studs and the rest of you losers are eunuchs designated for manual labor exclusively. Deal with it.

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The entire point of the life of any organism is to reproduce.

Since queers can't reproduce they are purposeless. Even the raising of other's offspring does not fill the void left by knowing your line ends with you.

You failed at existing. You're a loser.

It was removed from the listings in basically every civilized country. Even China did it in 2001, and they don't have a gay lobby.

Sure.

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lol. keep telling yourself that dyke.

Nearly every bi girl ends up with a man for a reason. Any straight girls you "turn" will eventually cheat on you, or run off with a man.

Because you can't provide the one thing every women truly desires and eventually feels empty without; giving birth.

loooooooool

tits or gtfo
>Just because you say you are in fact a girl, does not mean you have any superiority. A woman uses that argument to say "I will make my holes unavailable ", but on the internet that doesn't matter. Nobody gives a flying fuck if you are a woman.
>Also I dont give a shit that you are a lesbian, or if it was related to your post at all. Saying you are a woman on the internet is fucking retarded
wew lads

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Oh shit. You probably aren't even an actual lesbian.

You're a tranny fag in women's clothes. I bet you can't get a single woman to fuck you now that you sliced your dick off.

You fucking retard.

i sincerely dont know how lesbians have sex in a relationship. like do they have a drawer of sex toys always?
the 1 lesbian couple i knew had a sexless marriage and were clearly depressed

>no need to worry about violence.
That little slip up is how I know you’re LARPing.

They just have to eat eachother out and finger.

Tribbing is also common, but it looks a bit different than it does in porn. It's mostly just humping eachother's thighs.

Think you about covered it. Isn’t it nice when you can answer your own questions?

The bible is the best argument.
Get off Jow Forums

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not a mutt, nor do i think serbia is le most baaased.
though you not being serbian 'splains a lot. where are you from then?

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>are there any actual arguments?
>and no, don't use anyone one of these 3 perfectly fine arguments.

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Kys larper

Fake news. Ballpark was having a selfie completion at the time.

based

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lmao that fucking sucks. no wonder they beat themselves up

>causes them no distress
Then why are they always complaining and getting AIDS?

There's no classically liberal argument against it, no. It doesn't directly harm anyone outside of the arrangement and it's what those people want to do, so there's no justification for interfering.

You have to find some reason that it's harmful to others, and a significant reason, not a weak one (e.g. "I think it's gross" is utterly insufficient), before you can make an argument that it's something that other people should restrict or even care about.

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gays btfo

Full gif

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that doesnt make it a mental illness, that just means gay people are in general more sexual

aids

i dont understand what you trying to say. "It isnt normal" no shit it isnt normal gays make up like 1% of the population.

Tits or gtfo

There is social pressure to adhere to social norms. Social norms in the gay community are promiscuous and drug using. You could argue that homosexuality doesn't dictate the culture, but you would have no evidence; throughout history homosexuality has gone hand in hand with promiscuity; which in turn weakens the family unit and therefore the nation.

Societies that honor and celebrate monogamy are more economically successful, well fed, and have higher life expectancy. Until you have evidence that homosexuality improves or has no effect on monogamous culture it can and should be considered a detriment to society.

The legalization of gay marriage is actually the state subsidization of gay marriages (ability to file jointly on tax returns and list spousal dependent).
The purpose of this government subsidization of traditional marriages is to ease the financial burden of providing a stable home to children and to reduce the cost of starting a child bearing family. Healthy population growth is essential to the stability of the economy (otherwise you get an aging population and post-90s-Japan tier economics).
>gay marriages cannot produce children
>most gay couples do not adopt
>homos are less likely to maintain stable long term relationships
>children raised by same sex parents are predisposed to social confrontation, dysphoria, mental health problems and crime
Why should the government subsidize this?

That's not the topic of discussion. The topic is of homosexuality and homosexual behavior.

They question is "How does teh ghey secks negativly impact society greater than the benefit from increased liberty gained by legal buttfucking?"

I don't get it.

>but you would have no evidence

All you have to do is look at successful middle class white male gays to see how wrong this is. They shouldn't be hard to find either because they basically led the gay rights charge with their money and public image. Sure there's gays doing drugs, there's straight white guys having an opioid crisis right now, doesn't mean that there's something about the condition of being straight and white that forces you to ingest morphine.

But the problem with all your arguments is that they hinge on social good; they demand that it should be proper to censure private behavior for public prosperity. Not public survival, mind you, but just public prosperity; "we think we all would do better if you'd just be straight." Classical liberalism as it's expressed is, first and foremost, an escape from this kind of orthodoxy imposed from the outside. That the group is less able to enforce behavior for its slight profit over the individual's passions, and that something being a "detriment to society" doesn't make it wrong, is the whole point.

I mean, let's go back to your second sentence again; you argue that gays are bad because their social norms are promiscuity and drug use, but in order to see these as reasons to censure gays one first has to believe that there's something wrong about being promiscuous or using drugs, which there isn't by classical liberal rules. You should have the freedom to ingest whatever you want and fuck whoever you want so long as you don't hurt anyone else.

I bet I won't see a single coherent argument against the permission to be homosexual that isn't at root founded either on religion or on anti-liberal ideas which value group strength over individual happiness. Which will be ironic, because if the people who ran our society were to orient their morality entirely around punishing "detriments to society" you better believe every neo-Nazi in this place would be on the train to Bizarro Auschwitz tomorrow.

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Every sodomite I've ever met seemed to be mentally unstable or were some kind of narcissist, generally nasty/unpleasant people to be around that think their brand of snarky humor is cute when in fact they need to get knocked the fuck out for showing their disrespect.

That's not data, and it's not better than straight couples or when the gay community was repressed. Things are a lot worse than you make them out to be.

My argument is not weak because it hinges on social value. All arguments hinge on axiom and societal value is a very strong axiomatic good. You need to argue the benefit of liberty against the societal value.

All you are doing here is saying that "it doesn't fit my rules and worldview so it doesn't count". Even then I assure you that utility and social good are very much a part of Classical Liberalism. Without these things Classical Liberalism is just Libertarianism.

Spbp

This should be mandatory reading (1/2)

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I had a few bulldyke teaches growing up who went out of their way to humiliate me in front of my peers while the one or two faggots (they weren't open about their perversions back then but everyone knew what they would become) would be the teacher's pet, never had issues with my other teachers that didn't have the obvious clip haired bulldyke look.

The real question that should be asked is why do faggots and bulldykes hate straight white men and women so much? Most of us wouldn't even give a fuck about your degenerate lifestyle if you kept it in the bedroom or had to act like a bunch of whiny jews over 'muh persecution', 'muh protected sexual orientation'.

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You should see some of the videos Roy Moore has made with his 14 year old girlfriends.

I've heard people argue that it's boring, scratchy, wet, and feels bad man

Their is no argument since you guys are killing yourselves

dyke here.
please stop responding to obvious copypasta. If you want women to take you as our superiors you have to learn how not to be a complete fucking basic bitch.

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>Courting a young woman in her teens is so degenerate thou is the norm in most cultures!
>Sticking your dick in someone's poop chute doesn't transmit diseases, that's just propaganda, goy!

havent you got a tranny to go harrass? There are plenty of lesbian MtF women you fucking terf scum.
also, copypasta.

In that case the suppression of homosexuality should end when it becomes an invasion of privacy.
Suspicion of gay should not be a crime, but open gays should not be able to hold public office.
The legal and corporate culture recognition of homosexual relationships as a legitimate lifestyle impinges on the rights of every other citizen of the nation by forcing them to accept a degradation of the moral values that leads to a blurred line between right/wrong. Next after gays is trans, people who mutilate themselves because it pleases them to do so. Then the trans people in the armed forces want the healthcare to cover their Dr. Frankenstein operations.
Who even knows what will come next?

>inb4 degenerates spreading their filth
>inb4 getting your butthole surgically fixed
>inb4 incontinant by 40
>inb4 chasing AIDS because gay sex is lifeless
KYS.
What’s not to love?

You could probably say the same about murder though?
> muh god
> all murderers are degenerate
> muh race

what would you define as an "Actual argument"?

Just like jews, deep down, they want to be put in front of a wall and shot

What are you sodomites going to do when you can no longer afford your GRIDs medication? :^)

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>Just like jews, deep down, they want to be put in front of a wall and shot

This.

>Higher std rates than straights
>40% of pedo cases but only 4-5% of population
>Only 7% if lesbians have never had sex with a man
>Divorce rates among gays are just as high as straights
>High suicide rates
>High drug abuse rates
>Gay sex can cause serious damage to rectum
>Anal sex has shown to cause increase in colon cancer
>Lesbians have highest domestic dispute rates

I'm sure I'm forgetting more.

They promote those morons at the pride parades to build hatred toward the normal gays. They gays i know hate those faggots with a passion. The ones that support them are the ones that are only (((gay))) for the attention and because they were diddled as kiddos by -youknowwho-

I care for some of my family members as foster children, one is hitting puberty late and is assuming that she is bisexual. The caseworker really emphasized how wonderful it would be for her to go to pride and that she expressed interest.

The awkward look on her face when she saw her first naked tits on a gross female biker, then the sheer cringe when the leather fetishists in dog masks/leashes came by howling. It was a good experience, she got to see what she was associating herself with.

If we gave our foster kids access to adult materials we would get in deep shit with the government, but we get nothing but praise for taking them to a sex festival in person.

This image of a straight, normal white family triggers the sodomite. :^)

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fags who act like human beings are fine with me. When the fags entire identity is "i'm a fag" it's obnoxious and I don't want to be around you. Mostly because that fucking dumb lisp shit they all use when they talk. fucking retards. No personality whatsoever.

It actually doesn't matter how good or bad homosexuals may or may not be for society at large, because unless you can show that they're maliciously harming others, and that harm is because of homosexual behavior, there's still no justification for censuring their behavior.

>"it doesn't fit my rules and worldview so it doesn't count".

What I'm most importantly and fundamentally pointing out is that it's not just my worldview, but the entire idealistic core of Western liberal democracies that makes your view not count. We inevitably head towards greater freedoms for homosexuals because we are about freedoms in general; we value them over anything else except where stark necessity forces us to consider other things. Your argument may not even be that weak in the abstract but it's absolutely weak in terms of convincing anyone that isn't already a fundie or an extreme right-wing Jow Forumsack.

If your viewpoint hinges on "first you have to prove to me that this 'liberty' thing is worthwhile," then you're already lost. Our individualist, liberty-oriented culture is one where the default assumption swings the other way and has swung that way for centuries.

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You know, the good thing about murderers is at least they don't expect you to think murder is a good thing

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bump

Are murderers suddenly good if you can find one good thing about them?

bump

I fucking hate you so much, have you cut your dick off with rusted scissors yet?

lol, it's an assumption btw

we are genetically hard wired to hate faggots. no amount of jew brainwashing can undo this

>Derrr Herr perspective don't matter y'all herrppe derrpep

Homosexuality does not only help in the spreading of aids and destruction of the atomic family, it also hinders a nation's fertility rate to a significant point. If there were no homosexuals in California(2012) alone, at least 600,000 more children would be existent. This leads to less young people in a nation, and therefore it's weakening.

How about disease? "Homophobia" is an evolutionary disease avoidance response found in over half of the population.

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An asshole is made for pushing poop out not taking dicks.

Yes the main reason butt sex is promoted to everyone is to reduce reproduction in mainly Whites ....

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There is literally nothing you can find in a relationship with the same sex that you cannot find if your lover is from the other sex, while an heterosexual relationship have the advantages that you can grow your relationship far beyond its biological confine in the form of a family.

Anuses cannot bear foetuses

Homosexuals are disease spreading degenerates.

>Are there any actual arguments against homosexuality
It's gay

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