Is plan B abortion?

>take control of planned parenthood
>offer free "tube tying" and "vasectomy"
>parenthood planning for liberals complete

Presumably so that it is easier to find. Though a small box with a larger label would probably be cheaper

Agreed.
Why the fuck can I get a condom in a gas station and if that seems to fuck up I have to go to a pharmacy to ask for a simple pill?
I can carry one in my wallet but another has to be this whole ordeal despite being smaller and accomplishing the same thing at the end of the day

a hobo enticed by what’s inside the door

>Easier to find
I don't know how its in the states but here you have to get it by asking the pharmacist so I never understood it. But makes sense if you get it off the self in the US.

I would buy this if they didn't put literally every other drug in a pill bottle regardless of how dangerous it is

I don't think so. But seriously, what is so hard about taking a pill everyday?

You don't
You have to ask a pharmacist
And hope to god its a competent Asian and not some idiot stoner that ask for your name three times before you hand him your ID

we should meme it as zyklon plan b

It's actually two pills.

Terminating a pregnancy is an abortion. There's no way around that. Maybe you shouldn't have gotten knocked up to begin with.

But if you have to abort it's better than waiting 9 months and then deciding you've made a mistake.

How do you mean?
Plan B is literally just a massive hit of what the pill is in a single dose
Its not hard for women it just literally requires a placebo period because no matter what women have to have periods
So stupid is what stupid does and people fuck up
Or don't bother to use contraception at all

Isn't RU-486 an abortion pill? It's a bit more expensive, but works up to the second trimester

Plan B isn't terminating a pregnancy
Its preventing the possibility from ever occurring through hormones

It's worthless once the egg is already fertilized

Yeah but that isn't the same thing as plan b

Either the sperm fertilized the egg or it didn't. You can't change that with a pill the next morning.

You don't need to hide behind word games. Everybody knows sometime people do stupid things. All I'm saying is it's better to abort the morning after than later on when it's really gruesome.

>plan B®
>®

This is bait.
Everyone replying to this thread is retarded.
also I had to buy it once because I came inside a whore

No it's not abortion. Preventing pregnancy is not the same as terminating it. A fertilized egg contains a complete blueprint of a human the only thing that separates it from being an actual human is a short period of time. Destroying a fertilized egg is destroying a human. Preventing the fertilization does not destroy a human, two gametes are just prevented from merging. Gametes are disposable and are constantly produced, each gamete only carries the DNA of it's owner.
A fertilized egg is like a sprouting seed, under normal conditions time is the only factor separating the seed from being a full blown tree. If you kill the sprouting seed you kill a tree.
Artificially preventing fertilization is not the same as killing a fertilized egg.

It prevents fertilization for the most part so its not an abortion. By that logic all other forms of BC are terminating pregnancies.

I've never bought this product, but the box likely contains a bottle and s booklet with health and safety information

user Plan B prevents the fertilization entirely
Thats why it is called the morning after pill
Because it only works before the fertilization

Its a pill
You have the same thing in a plastic baggy everytime you buy a regular prescription
Or ask the pharmacist

While the general premisd of this post is true, the spirit is not: killing a seedling is not killing a sapling or a tree. A pregnancy is human but not a person until the nervous system is sufficiently developed

I had to buy it once. It comes in a fuck huge box if you get it from planned parenthood. Probably why it costs $50 a pop

Those sweet haploids

Nah, it's an abortion pill. Otherwise they'd market it truthfully. Is it meant for really shitty sperm that takes more than all night to fertilize an egg? I don't think so.

It's too late to prevent fertilization after you get cummed inside of and sleep it off before panicking.

No I know it comes in a huge plastic box at fifty bucks a pop, I was just explaining why its unnecessary and annoying

Despite coming to Jow Forums for years I was incredibly grateful that I didn't have a retarded baby with an equally retarded junkie bitch.
If I could do it again I would just avoid drinking and it never would have happened.

>Is plan B abortion?
Yes.
>Prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus
That means it is an abortificant.
>Is all contraception evil regardless of whether or not it is an abortificant?
Yes.

Like I said, everybody makes mistakes. That's how we learn.

Please enter your sperm into NASCAR if you think fertilization happens within less than seven hours
Which is the recommended ideal time frame for plan b

it's a very small concession. but the premise is the same and it doesn't answer any concerns of either side of the abortion debate.

for example: abortion is literally murder. there are few people who will loterate this.
also: if we're scaling abortion back, plan B seems like a stupid pill to die on.

How is that an ideal time frame? If people were thinking ahead they would have taken plan b before fucking.

>after than later on when it's really gruesome.
Why? Both result in the same outcome. Which is the death of an innocent. One just looks superficially worse.

Seeing my life flash before my eyes and realizing it was all over really put the fear of god in me.
I hope saint peter sees it as a wash when I inevitably kms

Blastocyst takes 5 days. It’s not even developed an outer cell wall, let alone organs or intelligence. At 3 days a fertilised egg is about 250 cells in a zygote. It’s basically equivalent to a cluster of bacteria. If you’re concerned that life starts with fertilisation, I’d argue it doesn’t.

Once your hit ~6-7 weeks you can detect a heart beat. No brain, no complex organs, but a heart and some stumps which will become limbs. It’s around that point I recon you could argue a life. Complex subject. Is plan B abortion? I would argue... not really.

No guarantee that a ~3 day zygote will mature into a full pregnancy. Many don’t.

>glad he murdered his own child
Freud was right.

No guarantee you won't die of a heart attack tomorrow, so I guess it's okay for a nigger to put a lead pipe through your skull tonight.

I believe God is inclined to forgive those who repent and change their ways. Not my call, of course.

Thats called the pill
Plan B is like an antibiotic compared to eating healthy food boosting your antibodies
You cant take an antibiotic everyday only when something goes wrong for some reason
Plan B is essentially the pill(which is spread over a month) in a day

As I said under normal conditions only time separates a seedling from being a tree. It's a self assembling system and trying to create a time based separation seems arbitrary. It's a row of dominos falling and it's only a question of time for the last domino piece to fall, if you put your finger before a falling domino you're deliberately stopping the system, without your intervention the last piece would fall. The time argument pretty much says that if you stop the first few dominos from falling it's alright. I say it doesn't matter when you intervene the point is that you do intervene.

Totally different, such a fucking brain dead comment. I don’t know why I bother.

Well technically it wasn't a child because I had no idea whether or not she was ovulating (leaning towards no because you can tell)
I made the right choice either way.

I think a large minority of the populace would say they'd rather you die than a baby.

Merely calling it plan b suggests that there was a plan a. What was plan a? The condom broke? It felt so good and she locked you in with her legs? She lied about being on the pill?

An ice pick through the orbitals is an "antibiotic" if you spin it right.

this is the average intelligence of Jow Forums browsers I'm afraid. Truly the dumbest posters on Jow Forums.

After I had a heart attack, I started taking 15 pills a day spread out over the whole day.
One a day must be easy to keep up with but...you know.... women....

Perception is not reality. So either the child existed or didn't exist. Of course, it's existence is actually irrelevant for determining guilt. Guilt is determined by intent, which means that your callous disregard condemns you, regardless of the actual outcome. When you die, God will treat you as you treated your child and you will go to Hell, where you will suffer forever. Unless you repent, of course.

Take a poll. Post the results. I’d argue “a large percentage of the population” thinks you’re an inbred cunt with a rudimentary education.

Quite possibly a majority would agree with that, but I have never been one who goes along with the crowd. I prefer to have intellectual and moral consistency than to hide behind my own flaws as a human being.

And I say that you're stupid. We kill the braindead all the time. What makes a person is their brain. If they have no brain, they're not a person. And killing something that merely will probably become a person is much less bad.

What the fuck is morally or intellectually inconsistent with anything I’ve said? Brain dead Americans. Holy shit you’re a plague. I didn’t even give my position morally on whether or not I agree with any abortion process, and there’s arguments as long as our assholes have pointed towards the ground about what constitutes ‘life’. Fuck off with your grandstanding you silly cunt. Go make a philosophy thread if that’s what you want to shitpost about.

>What the fuck is morally or intellectually inconsistent with anything I’ve said?
You implied that killing something is fine because it might die anyway, and then retreated from this position when you became the one who was threatened.
>I didn’t even give my position morally on whether or not I agree with any abortion process
And yet dollars to dimes says I'm right in that you think it's "acceptable under certain circumstances".
>there’s arguments as long as our assholes have pointed towards the ground about what constitutes ‘life’.
Entirely irrelevant to the question of whether it is life or not.

Its plan b because the condom broke yes
Yeah plan a failed for whatever reason is this complicated for you to grasp?
Does having an alternative form of contraception make it somehow an abortion if pregnancy is still prevented in the first place?

Yeah, it's still an abortion. I don't know where you're going with calling it "preventing a pregnancy." Everybody knows what it is and what it's for. There's no need to try to frame commoditizing an abortion as not an abortion.

Don't you get it? The problem is not that there will always be abortions by hook or by crook but rather the desperation to pretend it's not an abortion and it's routine medical care to not have to care about life or that sex makes babies.

>Is plan B abortion?
Yeah.

And I say you're a nigger with no time preception and understanding of cause and effect. I repeat, you're advocating intervention in the process of a self assembling system. It is pretty much guaranteed that the zygote will become a fetus and eventually a baby and it's also pretty much guaranteed that the baby will grow, develop and obtain sentience. You're saying "if I intervene early it doesn't count!". Only few years separate a fetus from being a sentient being.
The example of the brain dead is absolutely shit tier. If the brain of a human is dead and you cut the life support from the body it's not the same as terminating a pregnancy. In the case of the pregnancy you're stopping the process of a human being assembled and and eventually becoming self aware. In the case of a brain dead body you're stopping the artificial life support as an empty shell, a brainless body has zero chance of being a self aware being, a zygote has a pretty damn good chance of being a person in few years.
>inb4 you start arguing based on outliers: w-what if a miscarriage happens, w-what if somebody punches the baby to death, it justifies my intervention!

Stopping a potential, regardless of thd likelyhood of success, is not the same thing as killing it after it alreadh happened. That said, a few years? I say a few months at most.

>Stopping a potential, regardless of thd likelyhood of success, is not the same thing as killing it after it alreadh happened.
The end result is the same, a life terminated.

>In summary, we could say that Humanae vitae formulates the conditions according to which a sexual act is an adequate expression of conjugal love. Only when it remains in itself open to the transmission of life is the sexual act between spouses an act of union between the two, in which the authentic gift of self is realized in the body. The link between the two meanings should not be located at the biological level, but rather at the intentional level: there can be an intentionally contraceptive act which, even if it is physiologically fruitful, contradicts the truth of self-giving (for example, an act in which artificial contraception fails); just as there can be an act that per se is open to life, even though it is physiologically sterile and known as such (as happens in the natural regulation of births).

>An act rendered intentionally sterile denies at the same time the sincere openness to the gift of oneself and the full acceptance of the other: it is an act that turns in on itself. Although carried out with the consent and collaboration of one’s partner, the contraceptive act intentionally closed to procreation is an act aimed at the pursuit of individual pleasure, which does not differ from masturbation. For this reason, sexual difference does not play a qualifying role in such an act and it is therefore analogous to homosexual acts. The English philosopher G.E.M. Anscombe says that those in favor of contraception will have no arguments to oppose homosexual relationships. The Italian philosopher Augusto Del Noce went so far as to say that “today’s nihilism (which he calls gay nihilism) always intends love ‘homosexually’ even when upholding a man-woman relationship.” It has been rightly observed that the man-woman relationship was public from its origin with its openness to the generation of children, and that is why it is sanctioned by marriage, while the homosexual relationship is in se private and cannot be recognized as marriage.

>today’s nihilism (which he calls gay nihilism)
LOL FAGS BTFO THE FUCK OUT