Explain your issue with Christians

>All these Christians and Jews tell me it's not true!
Gee.. I'm so surprised. Next you're going to tell me Kony isn't really Christian, right? Or will you pretend that a UN undersecretary met with the leader of a Christian terrorism group while there was an INTERPOL arrest warrant... yet there was no arrest?

The idea of an Afterlife is dumb.
It's selfish.
It also >implies your consciousness is important in and of itself.
Your consciousness is a tool to achieve goals. Like all tools, it gets worn with use and needs to be replaced.
Your reward/punishment mythos shouldn't be about a selfish sensory input that continues irrespective of the world you left behind.
It should be about blessing your family with good luck or cursing them with bad luck.
What's important in your life is whatever efforts you took part in that is still ongoing after you died.
The raising of a family, the discovery and spreading of ideas, the conquering of other nations, the building of infrastructure, that kind of thing.
But nope, your reward/punishment system is totally detached from reality.

pretending to be a shrink epic style: the post

I rather not get diddled by your priests Mr. Chrisitan

No where in the bible does it say that when you die you go to heaven or hell.

Citations please.

Well except you , elaborate further please, I’m interested where it’s going.

If they were honest: rules that they didn't decide on.

Since they are dishonest: a bunch of bullshit that any beginner Christian could shut down that they are parroting from atheist blogs.

You didn't ask me why I was anti-bible, you asked why I was anti-christian, and the idea of an afterlife as a stick and a carrot is why.

>he hasn't read the new testament

How can you have a real opinion on Christianity if you've never read the bible?

The point is if christian terrorism was ANYWHERE near as big as muslim terrorism, at least half of Jow Forums would not be here. Sorry to say son, any operating militant christian group would sweep up red blooded males like moths to a lamp. Obviously that christian militant group does not exist.

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Was Joseph cucked by God?

Religious fundamentalism occurs when a militant, secular authoritarian government cracks down hard on both radical and moderate theists.

Terrorism also only occurs when a group is so unevenly matched by its opponent that conventional warfare is not a option.

Thus Christian fundamentalism is less common then Muslim fundamentalism where secular governments have been far more accommodating and when things came to blows, such forces were more or less evenly matched.

See Napoleonic wars, Spanish Civil War

The Middle East is far more authoritarian with theists almost always on the losing side of a conflict.

Based Hinduism

memeflag. antichristian thread made as a pagan bait thread. please fuck off shills

basically Christian fundamentalists don't need to be terrorists. But if there were a situation that rose that would require it, they would be no less as violent and active as jihadists

Dodn’t the Bible state specifically being a good person for a sake of getting into heaven was against its intent? Like that’s how you get denied? I’m not saying that you shouldn’t be a good person or avoid heaven if you believe in that, but I’m just but being good and expecting a reward seems counter inituitive to the book.

Then please do educate me on the new testament. Assume I’m an unbeliever who never touched the book.

One group isolated to an African subpar 3rd world country doesn’t represent a whole lot man. Try this. Most here are rogue weirdos, not organized terrorist organizations that are well funded by radicals. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

The idea that the hebrews were the good guys during the Old Testament.
The idea that you are born unpure and need to be "baptized"
The Original sin
The idea that you need to be "saved"
The Bible being Men's law pretending to be Nature's law
The idea that only the hebrews were righteous before Jesus and all the rest were "wicked" or "lost" at the time Whites were building great civilizations and empires all around the hebrews.
It's teaching subverted White European indigenous faith and culture and even costed the lives of a lot of them
The ridiculous Doomsday fear-mongering

And i could go on...

Oh yeah one more thing.
>Then you try to ask them logical questions like "how can your god expect Adam and Eve to not do something when the deity has not given them the wisdom of 'right and wrong' to know that doing it would be wrong?" and .. holy shit the gymnastics would win medals in the Olympic games
Simple. He told them not to do it. Pretty fucking striaght forward. I don’t see the mental gymnastics in that.

Ultimately it’s a reasoning for why things happened before you had shit like science and reasoning or what not, but explaining away logical questions like that are pretty simple.

>Didn’t the Bible state specifically being a good person for a sake of getting into heaven was against its intent?
YES.
Also people mistranslate "meek" as being a pacifist or timid when it means that while you do work for glory, you work for the glory of God rather than personal glory.

I'm not anti-Christian, but a lot of people find the principles of Christianity to be contradictory and don't witness the power of transforming grace affect the lives of people who claim themselves Christians. You're supposed to detach yourself from the world to the point you seem careless towards the grievances of others, then at the same time you're supposed to concern yourself with the misfortunes of the world to the point you're very invested in the well being of the world you were supposed to detach yourself from. There are uncompromisable, objective evils, yet God uses them against people in retaliation for the free will He has given us. How can a being who's essence is goodness itself that is believed by a religion that teaches evil arises from Man's own volition act out against His own nature in response to the nature He has given us?

Christians themselves revile anyone who doesn't share their beliefs, they even revile those who approach them with skepticism. They seem to not understand that there is just as hot a spot in Hell for condemners as there is for an adulterer or murderer. Yet they continue to look down on others with judgement despite it being explicitly stated in the Bible it's not their place to judge.

Nah, if you're not familiar with slaves be submissive to your masters and the parables of Jesus... You obviously don't have enough knowledge of Christianity to form a valid opinion.

the greatest period in european history has actually been THIS period. Coincidence? I think not.

christianity has failed and all you will see is more secularisation
that's what you get for worshipping Rabbi Jesus
faggot

Christians never shut the fuck up and stop trying to proselytize. It's mega annoying. You're also basically kikes with what little respect you have for any European history that doesn't directly have to do with Christianity. Beyond this, you're all collectively historically retarded, you believe a stupid Jewish narrative of history, slander non Christians, and idolize people who were only Christian in name without having any idea what little understanding of Christianity they had and the heretical beliefs they held.

Christians were made to feel welcome because you were scorned by society and laughed at everywhere else, and what did you do other than become absolute fucking assholes in thanks

I’m guessing both of those are in short supply when you involve falliable people.

Fine we’ll play that game since modesty or competent arguing skills ain’t your thing. Don’t say I didn’t give you the benefit of the doubt.

If the parable of the slaves is a Jewish conspiracy to control people, why did the Bible also request slaves to be treated fairly and that God has no favoritism?

As for a master reaper what he did not sow, cite please.

nationalvanguard.org/2010/10/on-christianity/
nationalvanguard.org/2018/06/christianity-a-religion-for-sheep/
youtube.com/watch?v=dnrT7yZEV-g

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Retardation of the belief itself aside,

It turns you into a victim
>Turn the other cheek
>Love your enemies

Jesus was literally a commie and a hippie, the political person of Jesus that is.
If you want a strong nationalistic people, I think you chose the wrong mascot.

Christianity is only believable by the dumbest whites.
The real purpose of white nationalism is darwinism.
Which is the survival of the fittest whites.
That being said, i think white christians have a deserve rights should be treated better than foreign trash.
They may be lower class whites but they are still more loyal than some others.

youtube.com/channel/UC11FY-cR1AwT2bHv4fESeZg

Watch every single lecture by Walter Veith on this channel. :)

They made Sundays kinda lame, and pander to the poors

I just miss Rome, okay?

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Religion is a symptom of low IQ. You all need to be removed from the gene pool so everyone else can get smarter.

>The idea of an Afterlife is dumb.
What do you think of quantum immortality?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality
youtube.com/watch?v=0YsjrA87Cno
youtube.com/watch?v=za_b9UQoz6E

>It's selfish.
>It also >implies your consciousness is important in and of itself.
The things you value instead are no more important.

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My apology my father needed me for help so I left the thread did I miss it all :(

Like i said.
Loyal and therefore deserve rights.

There is nothing wrong with doing good things for selfish reasons.

>Greatest Empires were Christian
What was Rome?

My issue? Marcion and the gnostics had it right and the rest of the Christians were too fucking Jewed to get it.

Yahweh is not God.

Everything he does in Genesis suggests some deeply flawed lower level entity posing as the highest divinity.

The God of Israel is a pathetic bipolar bully and has no resemblance at all with the God and morals Jesus spoke of. Yahweh obsessed over enforcing a harsh law for punishing child like proto-humans tricked by a talking snake into becoming a little more like him. Jesus desecrated the Jewish law at every opportunity and called the kikes children of the devil because they did not share the same Father.

Marcionites, Valentinians, and other groups tried to uncuck Christianity from the Old Testament early on so Christians could know the true Father.

Unfortunately, (((they))) weren't having it.

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It is real and good death is the end of all creation and afterlife is eternal peaceful prosperous life

Bible say help family contribute to society be good woth others that a good social system and it benefits the person and society punishment are for horrible acts the Christian reward/punishment system is great

>Liberals are so stupid for thinking government will solve a problem government created.
>Going back to Christianity will solve leftism, even though it caused the leftist scourge

Added to the murderous destructive attack on European 1000 years ago that we are still recovering from, which pales in comparison to what is going on with immigration and Islam.

Christians cannot know the mind of God and trains them for subjugation under the one God, gets them used to tyranny, ala globalism.

European history is a tapestry of men and thier deeds and is encapsulated in myth so we can clearly understand them. It is enriching and freeing and why Christianity attacked it.

Life is a fight between fear and ambition, Christians are trained to fear and so thier ambition fades.

There is no power on this earth like the white European and so the fearful have always wanted that risk removed or neutered, Christianity is the one tool that worked.

These enemies of Europe fight in longer timescales than most understand because their lack of ambition and sacrifice equals no legacy and a focus on lifestyle and themselves. One lifetime is all these can see and so slow moving in three generation cycles is beyond them.

>contribute to society
Bible says nothing about joining society

They were good
Because it is true
It is true
It is true
Bible is law of God and nature
Bible didn't said this

If you truly believe in after life you are less hesitant to sacrifice yourself for what ever your trying to accomplish

It is not
I didn't and will rise again because of secular failure

>will rise again

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Everything you said is false and Christian still represent most of society but no as much as they used to be we are gratefuls not assholes

>Because it is true
>It is true
>It is true
Summary of all religious arguments
Usually followed up by:
>If you disagree you're a satanist/commie/pedo/demon

Apocalyptic jewish death cult that was forced onto us in pain of death.

Bearded madmen riding camels and making stories about gods up has no relevance to Britain now or in the past.
They made it convert to jewgod religion or die.

That for people from your society
Personal enemies
Jesus wasn't a communist socialist or a hippe the most nationalists here are Christians atheists and others are mostly non nationalists or anti nationalists

I have a problem with Christians because I live in the US, where they've bastardized the religion and turned it into a means of control and political influence. They're all hypocrites and they don't give a shit, as long as they get their way.

You don't breed atheists retards you will extinct
Rome is irrelevant compared to spain Portugal England France

It said help society defend yourself and Christian brothers work feed yourself and family it is good for society
True
Yes it will
I didn't attacked anyone here

>recruiting new souls being a central element of the doctrine (where have I seen that before?)
>not trusting anyone who rejects their religion
>incapability to set religion aside when there are extremely important temporal considerations
>retarded missionary conversion attempts on peoples, half or more of whose populations have no capacity for remorse or understanding moral abstractions like sin and repentance

>>not trusting anyone who rejects their religion
This lack of trust is irrespective of any cues that the person is untrustworthy but is based solely on á priori assumption It's like "if you're not Christian, you can't possibly be an honourable person". Not different from any other cult

American Christians not all Christians

Christians think just because I’m a cute effeminate male that I’m threatening their way of life. I don’t hate them tho I only hate religious extremists.

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Because it sounds like proto-communism to me, and proto-proto-transhumanism.

St Augustine said 18 centuries ago that the bible has an interpretation range for people of all levels of intelligence. The critics of Christianity who care more about making a point than about truth pretend they are dumb and interpret the bible like a dumb so they can make a point.
Turn the cheek is the improvement on the previous rabbinical way of eye for an eye. One is the law of the jungle with a never ending cycle of violence, the other is for civilized human beings who can find alternative ways for settling disputes, being it reaching a consensus through talking or building a judicial system, its a software for building civilizations and leaving barbarism behind. Love your enemies works the same way, would you rather live in a community that works its differences through honest consensus or in a fragmented one where you all hate each other like the one we live today where the political sphere has radicalized and both sides want death squads rather tan talking honestly.
Also if you want to interpret it the dumb way you'd have to explain all the other Biblical passages that contradict the perceived passivity from those quotes.

Anyhow, there never was a problem getting self affirmation models in Christianity. In the reconquista the warcry was St.James the Moor Slayer for example. Being deprived from the cult or Ares didnt really stop them from obliterating islam.

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Not here you aren't. Here you're a blight.

Dumb. Eye for an Eye comes from Hammurabi's Code which is entirely a judicial system, Jews just plagiarized the shit out of it like they did everything else.

>no true Christian!

Your bugman 'religion' is a paint-by-numbers cult designed to control Europeans and make sure they only do things that are approved by rabbis. Your holidays are Pagan, your laws are Babylonian and your god is jewish. You Christcucks recruit a swath of brown cannibals to your pews then have the audacity to claim that we abandoned you. A disgusting cult, hardly better than hoodoo.

I HATE YOU DAD: The Thread

Christ Saves, you'll grow out of atheism by highschool bucko.

Just because I'm not a christcuck doesn't mean I am an atheist.

Because it's practically written to be interpreted in to cuckoldry and it promotes defeatism because fuck life on earth when you have God
Christianity was only great because Europeans (forcefully) adopted it
I have seen too many christians who'd rather have their daughter marry a somali christian than a German atheist/pagan/etc

Not much difference. Denial of Christ makes you a jew. You stand condemned before God.

So Romans were jews?

God created the world , God plagiarized

>mfw

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>For anti Christians on this board explain your issue with us why are you anti Christian

because it's based in Jew lies and fairy tales, and you're stupid enough to fall for them

>"everybody who existed before jewish jesus is a jew" t. drooling retard

Atheist is the lowest class of people on earth though. When the question is to choose a [bad thing] vs [worst possible thing], what do you expect? Youre just angry you belong to the untouchable demographic. My advice? Grow up.

Oh, so God made this?

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At least you don't deny you're a cuck.

Yes

Jew in spirit. That's why atheists are so vile and poisonous to the West.

If you think I'm talking about Judaism, you are more a fool than i thought initially. There are no believers in the Torah (OT genesis-deuteronomy) who patiently await the Christ. Those that call themselves are not.

But i digress, arguing with middle-schoolers isn't very fulfilling.

There are books that cover this from that time period but they are not cannon. You can read them if you would like.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infancy_Gospel_of_Thomas

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>At least you don't deny you're a cuck
You must be 18 to use this board.

Because at this point Christianity is being wiped out. Nations which Christianity thrived in are broken to the point nothing will fix them.

Instead of fighting back, Christians read the Bible and put their head down while their churches are replaced with mosques.

If you want to larp as a Crusader then all power to you, you just don't have any excuse to whine at this point.

You're all pathetic.

I'm not an atheist and I don't hate individual christians, I prefer them greatly over slimes and jews. I simply answered OPs question about what I dislike about christianity
Why do you always want people to only choose between pest and cholera? Embrace the third position already
pic related is from my hometown

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Nations are dying specifically because they're turning away from Christianity and its traditional teachings, f a m.

The root problem of the West is christianity itself. Enlightenment and marxism were derived from christianity. Trying to pretend that's not it, will only make the cycle repeat itself even if we managed to revitalize christianity temporarily. Christianity as a system is bad and it's a religion of slaves.

Time to get demoralized: 99% of christians around the world and in the west Hate you if you are far-right.

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That's not an argument, underage cuck.

Neoplatonism is the only reason why the West was anything special to begin with. Not christcuckery.

Christianity is only concerned with personal salvation to become part of a nebulous afterlife for which no evidence exists, and for which this world needs to be sacrificed, which is best expressed in the way early christians like Martin of Tours refused to fight enemies of their nations, insofar killing in this world could cost them heaven

When Jesus says "if they take your coat, let them have your shirt as well", "do not resist evil", "I have come to turn a man against his own household", "if you don't hate your self and your own family you can't follow me", "love your enemies, pray for your persecutors", "the meek will inherit the Earth", "those that wanna die will live", "blessed are those the persecuted, for they will be my Kingdom", "do not save treasures for tomorrow", "carry your cross so that you can receive eternal reward", "Sell all your possessions and give the money to the poor, and you'll have treasure in heaven", "it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye than for the rich to enter Heaven", "Woe to you who are well fed, Woe to you who laugh, for you will mourn and weep" he is not kidding, or meaning the opposite, but actually setting down a morality where the world is a lie and only the afterlife is the real deal, so destroying your life in this world, "carrying your cross" as he says, is completely logical

Jow Forums "christians" seem to believe Jesus actually meant the OPPOSITE of all that, and that Jesus wants you to defend your family, that Jesus wants you to kill your enemies, to become prosperous, well-fed and rich in this world, and to avoid persecution and death!

Only a person that does not actually believe in the Heaven bullshit and in eternal rewards for dying a martyr would actually re-interpret Christianity as a cult of earthly power which declares "the strong shall inherit the Earth" and "you must destroy the enemies of your nation"

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Because in the end their ideology is no different from Islam, all nonbelievers must submit (and back in the middle ages, under penalty of death) to their church or they will be tortured for eternity in the afterlife.
Typical middle eastern bullshit.

also
>roman empire
>christian

i'm not anti-christian, i am pro-orthodox and that's it.
how the fuck can anyone still support catholic church after pro-abortion, pro-homosex statements and infinite pedophilia accusations?
Catholic church changes over time to accomodate liberalism, i believe the Truth is perennial and never-changing.

Science>faith
Thats about all.

for what it's worth
Christian terrorism is absolutely not at the same levels as Islamic terrorism.
Not by a mile.