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Sweden's GDP grows, migrants work - according to Bloomberg
Julian James
Chase Gonzalez
Well shit, that extra 1% growth is totally worth having my car burnt and my daughter raped.
Joseph Mitchell
Now show the evolution per capita. Obviously more people = bigger economy, but it doesn't tell the whole story.
Jaxon Ward
"We experienced growth."
"We took in migrants."
"Therefore, migrants are solely RESPONSIBLE for that growth!"
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William Wright
>Labor participation rate of 82%
Absolute fucking bullshit.
Gavin Scott
nice ponzi scheme
Jace Johnson
"I got a raise at work this year."
"I started drinking excessively in my off-time this year."
"Therefore, my drinking was solely RESPONSIBLE for my raise!"
Logan Powell
This. If anyone advocates for a population increase for growth then they've admitted that it's incompatible with physics.
Nathan Carter
>84% of migrants are employed
There is NO FUCKING WAY this is a real statistic. Absolute horseshit. No refugees anywhere in the world have that high of a rate of being employed. There's gotta be some serious fucking kikery with that if it's not just an outright lie
James Hernandez
that extra 1% growth is from sweeds having to fix cars and treat rape victims
Evan Hall
they're probably talking about all migrants ever and then chuck on that 600,000 refugees bit to try and conflate the two. When in reality the 600,000 probably arent working at all
Luke Brooks
cool feels, bro
Jordan Campbell
Racist bigot.
Cooper Fisher
I refuse to believe the migrant labor rate is that high. In places like Aussie where they dont fudge their numbers, atleast half of them aren't working.
Hudson Campbell
I assume its migrants they know of, given placement in jobs by the gov, I'd like to know how many hours they are working and in what fields.
When they say "90% growth in the welfare sector" what does that mean? Healthcare? Surely it's not 90 percent are on welfare (which is likely true but will never be admitted to.)
Isaac Edwards
They fudge the numbers by counting "migrants" as "working" if they have I think it is 2 hours of any organized activity per week
Also the state literally pays 80% of the salary as long as you hire a "migrant", so yes they do get employed sort of kind of because it's basically free to employ brownies for companies
The state is completely defunct though because it has to pay for this shit, people are dying from cancer because they cannot visit a doctors, women are literally having children in their cars because hospitals all over the country are being shutdown because all the money is being used to cover up the shitskin "migrant" problem
There is some truth to the numbers in the article but it's half-truths and it's all a house of cards waiting to collapse
Eli Gonzalez
Does setting 100 cars on fire while the police watch and do nothing count as an organized activity? If so, I can come to Sweden and organize lots of activities.
Also I'm white and won't mutilate the babies.
Evan White
work under the table you mean.
Jackson Reed
Great more McDonalds drive throughs and kebab huts. I guarantee the growth if it even exists will be in trashy jobs.
Jeremiah White
And dig a little further and you'll see that it's been a net cost for the Swedes financially and for security. As usual it's a few rich snobs at the top that gets richer while everyone else loses.
Brandon Murphy
growth just for the sake of growth is the same driving force as of a cancer cell.
Gavin Howard
What does even labor participation rate mean?
The government pays shitskins to be helpers at subways. But most of all the government subsidies shitskins in the workforce. Meaning a company pays 5-10% of the salary while the government pays for the rest. On top of this a pretty fresh study by an autistic economy professor showed that migrants as a whole group is a net-loss of about 70k crowns (~7k usd) per year per capita. The calculation was based on their whole lifetime. The initial cost for the first 10 years is A LOT higher. It takes roughly 8-10 years for a migrant to get a job (several which ofc is subsidised).
So no we don't make a fucking penny on these shitskins. Our taxes has increased so much these 4 years that the effective tax is around 78% if not more. Municipalities are flagging for an increased tax. Fuck these fucking kikes.
Connor Hernandez
Usually if something goes wrong enough for a cell to become cancerous, the immune system is supposed to move in and take it out.
So if that doesn't happen then it means your immune system isn't up to the task.
Elijah Campbell
Oh and I forgot to mention that the effective tax is calculated based on the median household income. So it is even higher if you earn more.
Carter Howard
First of all, Sweden isn’t a country and there is no Swedish culture. Since everyone is a migrant, they have 16% unemployment rate in the country, thus 84% of them work. Migrant Swedes from 200 years ago now work 16 hours a day, so their wives can be penetrated by the bull in peace, and that’s where the gdp growth comes from. And that’s a good thing.
Christian Brooks
>not only we got the swedish people destroyed, we even made some shekels
hahahaha racist nords absolutely btfo
Xavier Wright
They should apologize for being mean to those 6 million who were lost so tragically in that event that must never be named.
Joseph Reed
>increase population by an extra 6%
>GDP goes up an extra 1%
>This is spun to be a good thing
Gavin Gonzalez
most niggers are hired by companies that buy into the "new start job" program which subsidises their monthly wage by 75-90%
basically they are still dependant on the tax payers
also there was this one guy that said that all migrants that had come here since the balkan wars cost swedish tax payers 70k sek per person
migrants have been a net loss to the swedish economy
Easton Lewis
AYO DON'T CALL THE JEWS PONZI SCHEME OPERATORS
IF THE MARKETS DON'T GO UP YOUR RETIREMENT WILL BE GONE! YOU SHOULD THANK THE JEWS FOR SAVING YOUR LIFE AND FUTURE!
Nicholas Diaz
yeah, i get you senpai.
i've also heard that a cancer cell is a regular cell that forgot how to "die"
Lucas Perez
GDP is measured in spending you absolute fucking retard.
Blake Jackson
In my country, the official government statistics count 1 hour of work per week as labor participation
Nathaniel Torres
Definitely. Likely they are on a part-time shared employment scheme where a company pays them €2 an hour to do some menial task for less than 20 hours per week and the government pays the other €8. Its how the government in my country gets away with saying most African migrants are employed when in reality the statistic is that only 14% are fully employed in private industry.
Caleb Turner
>according to (((Bloomberg)))
Alexander Morales
More people = bigger economy. Doesn't mean Sweden is getting richer. China has one of the the biggest GDPs in the whole world, but the country itself is still basically a third world country. Same thing with India.
Oliver Bell
>Migrants have a labor participation rate of 82%
I find it hard to believe this, since a majority of all unemployed individuals in Sweden are foreigners. Do they provide us with a source on the statement?
Matthew Mitchell
That's because of all the new cars that had to be bought to replace the ones torched by the rapefugees and the buildings burned down that are being rebuilt.
Julian Martinez
Fascinating. Now hear me out.
Sweden's nominal GDP per capita is $53K.
If half of that gets redistributed to non-working immigrants, that means net GDP per Swede (=money and state services received) is on par with Spain ($28K).
If 75% of GDP is re-distributed (i.e. effective 75% tax rate on working Swedes), net GDP per Swede would be on par with Poland or Hungary ($14K). This may very well be the case, because Sweden looks similar to Poland in quality of life, despite nominally higher GDP.
Now it's getting interesting. Another doubling of immigrant population would bring a net GDP per Swede to a $7-8K level, which is that of Bulgaria but also that of Gabon. Next doubling of immigrants means $3.5K, which is Tunisia-tier. Getting to Congo and Bangladesh tier would require yet another doubling, and only at that level you could logically expect the immigrant influx to stop due to no difference in quality of life.
So it basically means that Sweden would have to take 8-16x the current amount of immigrants before the influx would stop naturally due to Sweden becoming Bangladesh-tier shithole.
Of course this is unlikely to happen, because that you would rather expect white Swedes to be genocided somewhere along the way, leading to a Zimbabwe-style collapse.
TL;DR White people are so productive that they can support a majority non-working immigrant population.
Daniel Brooks
I just looked this up. Sweden currently has a labor participation rate of around 73%. That's for the entire population. I can't find any statistics on the labor participation rate for foreigners, but it's definitely lower than the total. The unemployment rate among foreigners (born abroad) is 15.1%, compared to 4.4% for those born in Sweden. Note that the latter also includes second generation immigrants (the ones who are burning cars etc).
Note also that unemployment rate includes everyone, including European immigrants. Africans usually have around 30% unemployment, and certain groups, like the Somali, have over 50%.
Jeremiah Russell
But they spend their gibs so GDP rises.
Thomas Adams
>9/11 was a terrible tragedy so go the store and spend money to help beat the terrists!
- George W. Bush
Hudson Howard
Last time I was in Sweden (2015 or so) I observed that a lot of retirement-age people (70 or so) were working in retail etc. It struck me as definitely not normal.
Zachary Watson
>90% of the growth in welfare sector
The fuck?
Lucas Fisher
They started doing that in the US years ago, back when people were beginning to figure out that pensions and socialist security and all that were ponzi schemes and designed around early death in the first place.
Asher Gomez
how's that GDP per capita doing though?
Hunter Wright
Where was this? I have never seen that. I'm not sure if it's even legal.
Thomas Perry
Do you have a source for this? It's an interesting figure
Julian Reed
Looking at Swedish population growth (averaging 3.8% over the past five years) its economy in GDP per capita is actually stagnating if not shrinking
Chase Howard
Except the US is supposed to be a capitalist hell so it's kinda expected. But Sweden is supposed to be a socialist paradise, so it definitely seemed odd. Especially that in Poland you don't see retirees working in retail, despite everyone complaining that pensions are shit.
Brandon Long
The system would collapse under its own weight long before we reached Bangladesh or even Spanish levels to be honest. What Sweden has achieved is a quite remarkable thing, a population generally that accepts giving away most of their money because they trust the authorities. Sweden has historically had one of the highest levels of trust in the government on the planet, and this is how it has been possible to keep the taxes so high. It's also a very fragile thing, which is why the Nordic countries are so unique.
Over time, as we receive more and more immigrants, more and more people will question the Swedish tax and welfare systems, both the Swedes who pay for it and are being lied to, and the immigrants who actually come here to work.
This notion that immigrants are going to keep coming to Sweden no matter what is of course false. They're going to stop coming when the money runs dry.
Henry Turner
Why does everyone accept by default that GDP is the best way to measure a country? How did we get to this point?
Owen Martinez
Helsingborg, also old people working as cashiers on ferries.
Isaac Cooper
I don't know why people argue about the US being a capitalist hell or not. It's a rigged system run by Jews that is closer to fascism than anything else. It's memes used by communists like it's still 100 years ago.
Our old people believed that if they worked hard and paid in to the system that they'd be taken care of when they got old. And then the Jews ripped off the system and forced them to work until death like in the Polish death camps.
Chase Hill
>Why does everyone accept by default that GDP is the best way to measure a country?
because a populations' Happiness metric won't make (((them))) rich.
Cameron Roberts
Totally no collusion. Same news story with no information is broadcasted throughout whole Europe, with only the country name changing.
It is going to be war
Nicholas Garcia
It makes things much easier for leaders if they dumb down politics to GDP. The alternative is to look at quality of life, buying power, social cohesion etc. GDP also makes an easy justification for selling out to corporate interests
Grayson Rogers
I don't know what to tell you. It's not really a thing in Sweden that old people work. Sometimes you will see them working for charity causes like selling lottery tickets outside the super market, but that's on a voluntary basis.
Levi Walker
Careful here. Jow Forums loves dreaming about the collapse, because a collapse gives you an opportunity to fight your way out to freedom.
That line of thinking may be wrong though. I remember Sweden from 20 years ago. So I see that an average Swede's standard of living halved in, what, 20 years? Yet, no collapse, no revolution, no nothing, just a slow decay painted with rainbow colors. So it makes me wonder... you may still have a long way down ahead of you.
Yes, SD is going up in polls, but can it actually turn things around?
David Cox
>migrants has a labor participation rate of 82%
that's not even remotely true
Jack Gray
>I remember Sweden from 20 years ago.
Yeah, Poland back there was not very nice. Now, when I go to Poznan or Wroclaw, it's certainly a lot nicer than Gothenburg or Malmö, better infrastructure, better restaurants, and people seem to be enjoying themselves.
Jonathan Young
People that aren't actively seeking work don't count towards unemployment rates. Sweden probably registers people on social benefits as "employed". It happens here too
Julian Martinez
>Import waste
>"Shit, this is actually costly... what do we do?!"
>raise retirement age
>"SEE?! IMPORTING WASTE WORKS!"
James Thomas
(((Bloomberg)))
Jason Myers
Capitalism without population growth is a pyramid scheme that is about to fail. Population growth has been mis managed for decades now.