Seriously, a tiny island came to rule the world? What was their secret, how did they achieve greatness?
How is it possible to rule the world without a huge population?
Also, why was life for the average Briton so bad even during their total exploitation of the worlds' resources?
>be builder-bong
>sitting in beautiful bong forest one day
>notice how SSTRONNGG native english oak tree is
>Of_all_the_trees_that_grow_so_fair.jpg
>*1 year later*
>pic related
Well basically we're the best country in the world. We invented everything. Ruled most of the globe at one point, just generally the best. It's that simple really.
And that would also extend to those Americans with >80% English ancestry?
Scotland and England uniting was a big deal economically, militarily and politically.
>How is it possible to rule the world without a huge population?
Aesthetics and memes.
They all left Britain for America and the people dumb enough to stay in Britain were the crown’s cannon fodder slaves what’s not to understand about that
Swag is for americucks
Class is for British lads
Because the Jews used us as a vessel for world conquest
That, is true bling.
They were white, conquered a bunch of non whites. Not a hard thing to imagine. That's why they need white genocide
Disney musicals and jello
the wood of their ships was scottish btw
Someone's gotta be at the top.
Back in the day Brits would say that if we don't destroy Napoleon we will end up speaking French, or Hitler with the German language.
I guess neither Hitler nor Napoleon, German or French back in those days ever thought 'I wonder what language my descendants will be using to commit psychological on anonymous amine forums'.
And Kiwis, Aussies, Canadians, South Africans, Gibraltans and Falklanders..
>only lumbering beasts of ships
>few support ships
>tiny merchant navy
ready to cry about chatham? maritime virgin boy
Jews
Scotland is in Britain btw
>how did they become so powerful?
Jewish Love
kek
Americans are more German I believe, but I think British was the second or third largest white ancestor
>Be self loathing Brit
>Talk to a few foreigners
>Realise there's millions and millions of Britboos out there
Everyone seems to love us for some reason. Lot's of foreigners I talk to are even passionate about the English language to the point where they read shit like Emily Bronte novels in their spare time.
Some Arab girl even tried to correct me on my English and then try to talk philosophy with me in a very abrupt, almost challenging way.
because we are not french
British philosophy*
Muh marbles
This is now a grill thread lmao
>Seriously, a tiny island came to rule the world? What was their secret, how did they achieve greatness?
God's grace
Unfortunate that they decided to reject God though
> What was their secret, how did they achieve greatness?
PSYCHOPATHS
>Live on an island so almost no wars on your territory
>State religion so no interference
>Different feudalism than everywhere else
They just had to build a strong navy and not get tangled up in shit on the continent. They did exactly that.
they were ran by joos
Well, it really depends. Out west is more german, northeast, utah and nevada are mostly british descended, and south east is irish. Mist americans have some british blood whether they know it or not. I was always told i was german but turned out i was half anglo.
Very good, so long as you also apply this to France, Spain, Belgium, Portugal, Germany, Netherlands, Rome, etc.
Thank you now.
>What was their secret, how did they achieve greatness?
It's called free trade.
Spanish Succession War & Battle of Trafalgar.
>almost no wars on your territory
lol.
English colonial empire predates those events lad.
oo shit i was about to post this.
Get your politics outta here, i just wanna grill!
>>Live on an island so almost no wars on your territory
>>State religion so no interference
>>Different feudalism than everywhere else
that can be said of any region in the world really
there's no rational explanation of why Britain became so dominant other than God's intervention
(((banking)))
got some tulips if you want them
war of the roses nor Oliver Cromwell have existed according to polish history, they only remember 1939 and the toilet they've cleaned yesterday at your's
They lived on an island so to protect against foreign incursion they just had to invest in a strong navy, they didn't need a terribly strong army wheras all the other European states had to fortify the fuck out of their land borders. DOesn't mean dick if the French army is stronger and more capable than yours if you can blow them out of the water before they can land
They could easily conquer other European country's colonial empires without too much consequence since it only really required naval supremacy, they didn't have to worry about said country invading the mainland, they just had to btfo that country's navy and then could easily invade their colonies. They did exactly that with the Dutch and the French
they sold their souls to the joos
True! However both those events definitively tipped the balance in favour of the British Empire. It firmly consolidated it's position.
I got some pepercorns and nutmeg, if you want them. it'll cost you 10x more compared too though...
That that back NOW
The Raid on the Medway, during the Second Anglo-Dutch War in June 1667, was a successful attack conducted by the Dutch navy on English battleships at a time when most were virtually unmanned and unarmed, laid up in the fleet anchorages off Chatham Dockyard and Gillingham in the county of Kent. At the time, the fortress of Upnor Castle and a barrier chain called the "Gillingham Line" were supposed to protect the English ships.
The Dutch, under nominal command of Willem Joseph van Ghent and Lieutenant-Admiral Michiel de Ruyter, over several days bombarded and captured the town of Sheerness, sailed up the Thames estuary to Gravesend, then sailed into the River Medway to Chatham and Gillingham, where they engaged fortifications with cannon fire, burned or captured three capital ships and ten more ships of the line, and captured and towed away the flagship of the English fleet, HMS Royal Charles.
Politically, the raid was disastrous for King Charles' war plans[1] and led to a quick end to the war and a favourable peace for the Dutch. It was one of the worst defeats in the Royal Navy's history,[1] and one of the worst suffered by the British military.[6] Horace George Franks called it the "most serious defeat it has ever had in its home waters."
You forgot step 1.
>Remove Jewish parasites
Not really, Sweden and the Netherlands set up banking institutes way before we did.
Try again sweetums.
England alone has had at least 5 civil wars, there was also battles with Scotland and Ireland, the Viking invasion, the Roman occupation, the Irish slave trade etc. If anything England has had way more conflicts internally than any other place in Europe.
Abandoning the American Revolution did more to make us succeed, the French went bankrupt trying to take our Carib territories (leading to the French revolution). We saved money by not having to rebuild the destroyed towns in America, cut our losses.
Actually living on an island makes us more vulnerable to incursions and invasion. We're exposed from all sides and have no bulwark except the ocean to protect us.
Try again.
This is why I put there the word "almost". Two major wars in a couple hundred years. The rest were Irish/Scottish/Welsh/Whatever rebellions.
There was no other white nation that was isolated to that degree. And their feudal system was diifferent than the one on the continent so there was almost no infighting between the vassals.
Longstanding policy that their navy would always be larger than the next two European navies combined.
Originally that was to prevent invasion, but it paid for itself when global trade and colonisation started to get going
pffff we still had the true gem of colonies
>docile indo's
>spices, narcotics, brazilwood, gold, tea etc
>rubber and oil
>no real colony but private holdings of a company
>colony by proxy
You also forget the continual fights with France that have happened. We're also not immune from the shit that happens on mainland Europe. Like the plague etc.
We're going to have another plague thanks to Paris. Dirty bastards.
they've been fighting since ever. they are an island nation of tribes bred for warfare. let me repeat that. they are bred for warfare. nothing, absolutely nothing, makes bongs happier than going to another country and wrecking the natives. and that's no joke, they are extremely, as history has shown, good at this. when they want to be extra violent and murderous to the natives they unleash their irish regiments and history is made. all in all they are the greatest breed of white people to have ever graced gods green earth.... and they are waking up again.
We actually did steal some French and Dutch territories.
Sorry.
They were 99.9% white.
> Only a navy needed to defend the home country
> Experience in colonization before anyone else (three attempts to get it right in Ireland)
> Vast experience in combat from fighting each other. Parliamentary army showed the English what a well fielded army could achieve.
> State religion before the rest of the continent
> Ample supply of strong timber and competent sailors
and most importantly
> a desire to get the fuck off the little miserable rock and out of the rain
Colonies can't protect themselves from incursion without support from home. Support requires logistical routes which the Brits controlled.
>no bulwark except the ocean to protect us.
You're forgetting the fortress built by God to protect his favourite people.
then 1688 came
Was one incident, utlimately the bongs raped your colonial ambitions hard with their superior navy, otherwise you never would of lost Manhattan, the Cape Colony, Nagapattim, or Ceylon
I would recommend you watch this lecture to understand why Britain became so great, there is not one simple answer to this question.
Clocks my friend, naval clocks
That's not entirely true, our nation has a history of actively protecting natives.
>Give Maoris representation in the devolved NZ parliament
>King George III's royal proclamation (Appalachian Line) to protect Native Americans
>The Royal Navy enforcing mandatory quarantine rules to protect against smallpox spreading in the New World
So you're wrong ladm8.
We have a tunnel that needs blowing up.
Too depressing.
Being a more free country than basically any other country in Europe.
>There was no other white nation that was isolated to that degree
The UK was never isolated, Russia was
>And their feudal system was diifferent than the one on the continent
How? Didn't they have all the feudal ladders as well?
Britain is different from the continent, because Britain is a deliberative society, not a consensual one, that is, it believes that social emotions, differences should be displayed in the public, social order negotiated and deals made about disagreement so 2 parties are happy. It requires a certain gentleness to all this. They're not as hot headed as the French or the Germans
Depends what kind of foreigner lad. A lot of middle easterners hate us for
1. Suez
2. Giving Palestine away (Balfour declaration)
3. General Colonialism
Desi/Indians tend to dislike Britain
1. The Bengal famine
2. Amritsar massacre
2. General exploitation of resources
The Irish in my experience REALLY dislike England. The famine, black and tans plus losing their language really burns deep in them.
Parts of Africa don't like the UK for obvious reasons.
Other places they are less hostile to brits.
Of course they happened. But the main island wasn't invaded and destroyed.
The difference was that the rest of Europe was continuously ravaged by some looting forces, England was not.
You can't compare fighting a Scottish uprising to religious wars in mainland Europe or the 30 Years' War or the Mongol Invasion.
The plauge thing might be too true, my trucker friend refuses to go to the UK because Calais is hell on Earth.
Britain is a HUGE island relative to most other islands.
Britain and Ireland had a large population when the UK ruled the world. Ireland's population alone was more than the entire United States in 1800.
Sounds like you have a solid understanding of history. hur dur rape you, good summery. We even fucked the English out of the US, it has been a long back and forward, and not only of hostilities but also of cooperation.
During the American war of Independence the Dutch were active allies of the American revolutionaries. From the island of Sint Eustatius they gave the Thirteen Colonies one of the few opportunities to acquire arms. In 1778, British Lord Stormont claimed in parliament that "if Sint Eustatius had sunk into the sea three years before, the United Kingdom would already have dealt with George Washington".
Read: Guns, Germs, and Steel
>Island
>Not isolated
I mean, come on.
Their feudal system was different because they had the rule of "My vassals vassal is my vassal" with the king on top of everyone.
It did not work in France or the Reich, and that caused a lot of internal conflict, like formal vassals of the French king fighting against France in the Hundred Years' War.
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Let me explain you can travel at sea pretty easy up and down, following the magnetic north but if you want to travel to the sides you need accurate clocks or you will miss by hundreds of km, also education oxford university is older than the Aztecs pyramids
This might sound a bit retarded but it's basically true.
Study history and look at the specific reasons as to why they succeeded.
In this day and age of "social theory", honestly, it's sometimes better just to put your boots on and do some mental leg work. Read the boring books. Look at the boring details. Having autistic discussions with autists. While a general picture will emerge and patterns will start to leap out at you, in the end, the specific reasons are the key reasons.
(I understand the following is theoretical, irony etc etc)
In debate (and this matters for dealing with the leftist scum) masters of historical specifics often have an enormous advantage over those who rely too heavily on "theory", especially when these theories rely all too heavily on vague summaries of large tracts of history or worse, pseudo scientific ideas like dialectical materialism or economic/geographic determinism. With dedication and discipline in doing this, there will come a time when, in battle with a marxist/feminist, they start talking about the "West" and "Feudalism" or "the Renaissance", your interjection with the word "ackchyually" will come to represent the harbinger of their arguments impending doom.
The spanish succession war consolidated British naval supremacy during the 18th century.
France did suffer exorbitant financial losses due to Louis XVI's support of the American Revolution.
However don't forget that during Napoleon's reign, the french fleet was larger than that of the United Kingdom. The Armée des côtes de l'Océan was ready to invade the isles.
It was both due to Nelson's incredible abilities as an admiral and Villeneuve's stupidity that the British destroyed both the Spanish and the French navy.
I do admit there are an enormous amount of factors to take in to account when it comes to OP's question. Though I can't help but think those two had an amazing deal to do with it.
Inland areas did get raided and occupied m8, they got raided from all directions.
The Irish from the West, the Vikings from the East and South and the Scots from the North.
I know what you're trying to say but you're wrong. What you want to say is, "we haven't been occupied" which is true, the last successful battle invasion was in 1066. But our country has still had to fight off repeated attempts.
We need to fight a new attempt now. Eugh
And yes Calais/Paris/Dunkirk are all hell holes, and no I won't compare it to Mongol invasion but what happens on the mainland affects us in many ways. Napoleon tried his shit with us and he got bashed out for being a dick face. Annoying everyone in Europe.
Ocean is a pretty strong bulwark though, naval landings are signifigantly more difficult to achieve than marching in via a land connection. Bongistan didn't have to invest in a super strong army to protect itself unlike the continentals, they only needed to focus on their navy. Wooden wall and all
>I mean, come on.
What? They had wars, they had university exchange, they conducted trade, this notion of Britain being somehow uneuropean is a meme, Britain was always present in european cultural exchange
The sheer isolation doesn't explain in the slightest why did they create Oxford and Cambridge, why did they start industrialism, why did they create one of the most important stock exchanges in the world with many financial instruments etc. The Chinese or the Japanese could do this, but they didn't, there's no precise explanation as to why Britain did all this
They had old ships left-over from the pre-1811 collapse civilization. See the SS Great Eastern en.wikipedia.org
Conventional history is a lie, frog. There are ruins that are destroyed because the knowledge of them destroys the conventional narrative. imgur.com
Start your research and stop worrying about bongs.
Superior common law, superior administration, and hundreds years of a strong seafaring culture as a result of being an island.
Yeah I understand the Dutch helped in the American revolution, and I thank y'all for that. Same with the French and the Spanish. But the fact is the britbongs still fucked you out of colonies even in this war. In the American independence war the Brits conquered Nagapattim and Ceylon from y'all. They gave back Ceylon at the end of the war, but they still took Nagapattim and didn't give it back. So even in this war where you were on the winning side, you still ended up losing in a way
Let us also not forget that the French forged an alliance with the Spanish empire, so not only did the French naval fleet outnumber ours, it was reinforced with the Spanish ships. Your right in the sense that dealing damage to the French navy helped.
Also one factor you must consider, piracy. Piracy was rife through our history, mostly during times when there wasn't war because sailors had nothing else to do to earn wages. Then pirates began to exclusively attack English ships, that's when piracy was crushed by the Royal Navy.
But then you had government employed pirates (privateers) which then turned on the government. Weird shit.
But we're still heavily exposed, we can be starved into submission with enough forces.
Lots of Americans put "American" on the census for ethnicity are primarily Anglo/Scots-Irish southerners descended from early settlers. And a lot of other Americans have partial English ancestry who don't report themselves as English (I say I'm Slovak to boost their numbers but have the same amount of British ancestry)
>Read: Guns, Germs, and Steel
There is A LOT of valid criticism of that book.
A lot of Diamonds claims are pretty sketchy when
you look at the evidence in context.
People ask where the money to finance things came from and they automatically say "JEWS, ENGLAND JEWS". They completely forget that during the Elizabethan era, she had a squad of privateers called the "Sea Dogs" that would raid everywhere and get money that way. Piracy paid for a lot of things, all that Spanish gold, all that shiny shine!
The Irish and the Scots were a lot weaker than England. I omitted the Vikings because England before 1066 was a completely different thing.
You had to fight off other nations but always on their ground or at sea. When a city got conquered everything got looted and people were killed a lot. The scale of conflict on English ground was a lot smaller.
Fighting wars is not a problem, having everything burned and stolen with civilians getting massacred is.
I mean isloation from enemy forces. If you want to invade Britain you need a lot of ships and a lot of preparation beforehand. It was almost impossible to gather a huge army and sail it through the Channel a couple hundred years ago. If Bongs wanted to defend themselves they needed a fleet which takes a lot less manpower and even if you fail, the enemy still has to fight on the ground while landing.
>But we're still heavily exposed, we can be starved into submission with enough forces
But you weren't. All attempts failed. Y'all recognized the strengths of being an island nation whilst patching up the potential weakness with a super OP navy, so all attempts at isolating and starving y'all ultimately failed
The british have the unique ability to have gross double standards and be completely fine with it.Thats basically the reason they did so well
>I mean isloation from enemy forces
Fine, but that doesn't explain the success of Britain anyway. War can sometimes even improve societal organization or lead to technological discoveries
Dude losing and winning is not such a black and white concept in empire, its is all about making a good ROI some victories are pyrrhic victory. The most important colony for the Netherlands was Indonesia, for England India. We both got rich, and that is all that matters in empire. Winning a battle is only a small part in the big picture of political and economical interests. Look at you guys winning in iraq, did it really enhance the standing of your empire?
It's pretty simple, Britain defeated all European powers to become the dominant power.
>The british have the unique ability to have gross double standards and be completely fine with it
Social peace in the UK is based on hypocrisy. People being nice to each other but being indifferent to morality, and not telling the truth to one another. Which is why the British turned out to be so cold and sociopathic
The Irish and Scots forged alliances continually and had either higher numbers or the same numbers as our troops during battles/skirmishes. They even tried to invade England during the leadership of King Athelstan.
Go look at every battle report and you'll see the numbers, they were not some tiny little oppressed people.
The New Model Army (created by Oliver Cromwell) were outnumbered.
en.wikipedia.org
They had 60 thousand troops, we had 30 thousand. The Irish will claim "muh chilluns n womyn", those are lies.
The myths need to be dispelled and they are going to be dispelled tonight.
We're usually outnumbered unless it's a battle in the ocean.
Our navy needs to be made bigger, governments keep fucking around but at least we've invented some nice shiny toys.
>this is what bottom of the barrel heritage mutts ACTUALLY believe
>he actually gave up monarchy for oligarchy
>laughingimperialists.png
They successfully played divide and conquer against all of continental Europe. That's basically it.
The Crown hasn't had any real power since the 1600's m8.
I know you Americans need justification for your hissy fit and that's all wonderful and fine but you should blame the government and your own founding fathers greed. Those are the realities of the situation and anyone that looks at the American Revolution objectively will see this.