Seriously, fines need to be calibrated to hourly income and holdings. Make $15 an hour and own nothing...

Who cares what poorfags think?

>just emigrate to a first world country and steal from whites, gwailo! it worked for me!

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What does all that gibberish have to do with the point of a fine, which is to make people act a different way than they would otherwise?

If you can't see that some kind of progressive fine, is the same as more progressive taxation, which is a cornerstone of the left.. then I'm not sure pool is the correct board for you.

Lets tax success
Even everything out
I need it to be fairer because I'm poor and stupid

Just.

Or don't commit crimes you idiots

You're retarded. What those anons are saying is completely unrelated.

Well, I kinda agree with this. Fines don't affect rich people as much as poor ones, so it's basically a way of buying the right to do illegal things.
The worst part, though, is that politicians are completely exempt from any fine. They can park everywhere, pass at a red light, drive way over the speed limit, etc, and they don't even get a slap on the wrist.

"Do as I say, not as I do."

here in Los angeles they tow your car. so now you owe 150 for tow, then another 200 per day for storage fee, plus whatever ticket.
i suppose it's too avoid such people just saying " meh"

it's a good idea. a better idea would be to dish out sentences based on your races rate of committing crime.... african american males (~6% of the population) are responsible for 90% of gun related homicides, therefore they recieve a 90% longer prison sentence for said crime.

if the total prison sentence lasts longer than your races average life expectancy, it's automatic execution the same day as your hearing. no lethal injection, just a quick, cheap firing squad session and then your body is thrown out like trash with no funeral.

and just like that you could solve the nigger problem in just one generation and they'll go back to being normal, civil people like the rest of us

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>which is to make people act a different way than they would otherwise
Is that the point of a fine? Isnt it restitution for a wrong to society or an individual? The wrong of an act isn't changed by the actor's wealth and the restitution necessary to make it right therefore reasonably doesn't change.

How did you make it all the way to adulthood without learning what a fine means?

>restitution for a wrong to society or an individual
No, it's a behavior modification tool. If the fine isn't large enough to influence your behavior, then there's literally no point to the fine.

>it's just how much you pay to do a thing
She stumbled on to a redpill there and didn't know it. Of course that's what fines are. It's a limitation of your freedom that you have to pay shekels for if you wanna do it. Follow the money everytime.

No, fines are a deterrent to keep people from doing acts that harm society's prosperity through financial punishment, while providing a form of compensation to the afflicted should the act arise.
I do think we need more community service, though.

Except oh idk millions in revenue every year?
How the fuck do you function with a single digit IQ?

>Calibrated

Using that word incorrectly makes you look stupid

I love how during the Obama admin nobody cared about human rights or laws but because everyone hates Trump people are actively rethinking everthing.

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That's not what fines are sold as, though.

Leaf tier posting, Aussie. I expect better from you.

>i'm jealous of the rich
fuck off commie shit

Yeah that's not how dating is sold either, but it's really just prostitution with more steps.
Wake up dude

What ? Look at my flag again, and then tell me I am a Bernie Sanders supporter

Paying a price IS a deterrence. That's the whole point of the free market.

It deters people from buying things that they are worth more than whatever the person is going to do with the thing.

It's a shame.
President Grant actually got a ticket for speeding in his carriage in DC. The Cop didn't want to give him one once we realized who it was, but Grant insisted on it.

>based on income, not assets

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>while providing another source of taxes to the government for them to waste

FTFY

Why not just have a three-strikes system for misdemeanors where the third conviction has a greater punishment? That way, rich people aren't punished disproportionately but are still deterred from repeat-offences.

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Yeah the radar guns they used to use really were something.

oddly enough I think this is done in Sweden, weird how they're so fucking cucked!

>life is easier for rich people
more at 11

So rich people are paying for infrastructure and all other public services and the only drawback is that they get to act like retards?
Sounds like a good system to me

Thanks for the reminder; I hate it.

But do a certain thing enough and the consequences go beyond a fine. If you speed enough, your license is revoked, and if you get drink in public enough eventually the cops will arrest you instead of writing a ticket.

Well, back when it was coaches and carriages I'm sure cops just eyeballed it.

/thread

>Launder enough money for the cartels, pay a percentage of what you made as a fine

>non violent crime
>necessitates jail time
what about the pot smokers?

>implying parking laws aren't literally just a way for the city to impose an extra tax on the rich
The goal of fines isn't to prevent the petty illegal activity in question, it's just to fund the government.

We should price EVERYTHING this way, thus defeating the whole purpose of money in the first place.

>oh wow. that's...
i hope he couldn't end his reply because pic related

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>rich people don't get special treatmen—
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affluenza#Notable_incident

You sound like a poor cuck.

I hope you see how obviously ass blasted you appear

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t. incel

>We should price EVERYTHING this way, thus defeating the whole purpose of money in the first place.

So let's say I want to sell my dollar bills to a shopkeep. And in exchange i want him to give me some of his chocolate bars.

Now, can you explain how to calculate how many chocolate bars he owes me if i give him 1 dollar?

Let's say I make 10 dollars per year and i am holding 100 dollars.

He makes 100 dollars per year and is holding 1 dollar but also has a lot of inventory (whose value worth needs to be evaluated according to your scheme)

Rich people deserve special treatment though

A fine is different from a purchase price, imbecile. What kind of stewed shit do you people have in your heads that makes you think so sloppily?

>A fine is different from a purchase price, imbecile. What kind of stewed shit do you people have in your heads that makes you think so sloppily?
True.

You only pay the fine if you get seen by the cop

This seems reasonable.

It's all good until they start implementing a progressive percentage system because even though you're literally paying an equal percentage your "fine burden" isn't equal and blah blah blah

>I once dated a rich guy
>Bitched all the time

I wonder who broke up with who.

that is a stupid made up term which is only famoud because it got media expodure. Like that SanFran guy who killied a gay offical and the mayor an blamed it on depression as evideced by eating too many Twinkes?

>wtf i did 80 in a school zone and you're charging me $20,000 because i make $1,000,000 a year this is literally communism dude wtf

>me, 19 and broke working part time in college
"Wow I speed once and it costs me $150. Thats almost my whole week's pay

>me, 24 and making six figures
Wow I speed once and it costs me $150. I bet I could get away with killing that cop.

This desu

>It's born from jealousy
utterly meaningless. If the government randomly gave you personally 1 million every year and people complained about that you could still call it jealousy.

Keep speeding and you lose your license, drive with out license you face jail time

That’s why they also have a points system and insurance rate increases. Plus if you do get in a serious accident they throw the book at you.

Fuck fines. Cops need to catch niggers raping and killing not giving tickets because you made a handicap cripppe cry by parking in their spot.

>$10MM
>MM
>pretentious faggot
You've got enough time to post on Jow Forums so you've got enough time to write "mil" or even "million".

People who park in handicap spots get their comeuppance anyway.

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>What does all that gibberish have to do with the point of a fine, which is to make people act a different way than they would otherwise?
The point of a fine is to extract extra tax revenue from things that you know WILL occur in society, but are more or less harmless activities.

Why are you in America? We don't want you here.

That's a sweet but naive worldview. It really is just an excuse to collect revenue.

Public shaming ( pillory ) , beating, execution actually modifies behavior

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Wow, rich people have money, and that makes their lives easier!

Who knew!

+1

Its liberal policy to give niggers a pass. They do it across the board

Big if true

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Gas the (((rich))), class war now

Lets take retard logic a bit further down the road. If you make more you get fined more make less fined less. So a unemployed welfare leech can now commit murder and at best gets a slap on the wrist.

Gonna have to disagree mate. I believe in small government and that all taxation as a means towards wealth redistribution is theft. Taxation for infrastructure and essential services is necessary and the only legitimate form of taxation. All forms of land tax and duty is theft. But you break the social contract in a way that disadvantages your fellow citizen, like running a red light, then the fine must hurt or else there is no disincentive. I'm completely in favor of means tested fines.

>fines are the same as taxes

retard bogan

If something is illegal it should be so harshly punished that no one would ever think of doing it. Or, we could quit using fines as a revenue source.