Potential Removal of Francisco Franco's Body

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>Socialist government wants to remove Franco's body to (((heal wounds))) from the war
>Protesters show up, pic related
>Technically illegal to reference anything from the Civil War at the Tombs
>Falangists don't care, gov had to call out riot guard once years ago
>The protestors' talking points still very CivNat despite optics
>Socialists will probably succeed in moving his body

This article aside, what does Jow Forums think of the potential for right-wing ideals, race realism, etc in Spain right now? With all the BS going on now is there a chance for the Francoists to explode onto the stage?

Descendent of the Empire here. Kek

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The Republicans destroyed museums, temples and raped nuns back in the civil war, are Spaniards really gonna let them defile the corpse of their greatest leader in the last 60 years?

If you're Spanish, flee to Chili or Argentine like I did. Spain is beyond fucked.
Half-mongrelized already, nigger flood gates borders, lowest fertility rates in all Europe, the housing bubble burst years ago, massive youth unemployed yet mass receiving niggers, "Refugees welcome, Tourist go home".

I predict an attack the day of the removal

I've thought about it but sadly you're infected too, not only with faggots and liberals but criminals and extreme cultural decadence.

There's nowhere to run. We have to be men, and fight.

You honestly think so? They take down Confederate statues here in the States so far nothing yet. I agree with the other anons here that Spain is def pretty deep in the shit.

They already removed the intellectual soul, Jose Antonio.

The day will come my brother but until then we have to keep our children safe. I think I might move to some remote place in northern Canada, live off the grid until society collapses

>housing bubble burst
kek it retraced like 30% and we well past 2008 prices

That is a childlish, selfish notion. Gotta work in anyway you can to build a little pocket of calm in this season of degeneracy, even if you're right in the middle of it. Maybe move somewhere a lil more stable, but don't try to escape it just by surrendering.

But I understand. We live in wait.

Republicans posing in civil war next to a priest corpse they removed... fucking sick degenerates

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another corpse from a nun

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I'm not surrendering, I'm letting them fall on their own. It is the only way to stop them, fighting has always been pointless, we go more and more liberal but never more conservative.

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Yep, hopefully Spaniards see the decline of the west and produce more ideologues like him, I however predict a synthesis of capitalism with nationalism surging through as the next zeitgeist of the continent, living in the squalor of socialism sure does make you into a fine capitalist after all...

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But you gotta prepare. We need money, connections, physical capital, even weapons. And to do all that we must endure what we must.

sick people ,they really hated nuns and priests

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Why tho???

they dindu nuffin
we wuz democratic n shiet

Who the fuck would want to see that nevermind dig it up and stand next to it for a photo??

They are mental , they have always been

See? Anarchism works!
Marxist Caliphate of Al-Catalunya when? Those conservatives are loco!!

See what happens when you don't kill every last socialist? It's only a matter of time.

It's always because we told you most people are on our side.

Seems to be the case. Ideological genocide... Ideocide.

>No middle aged wog nazi gf

That will be solved at the schools though, everyone is born right-wing by default, the womb of liberalism is the public school classroom...

My only problem with this is that a leftist government did it.
>This article aside, what does Jow Forums think of the potential for right-wing ideals, race realism, etc in Spain right now?
Spain is one of the most socially left-wing countries in Europe, so there's no great "awakening" there
>their greatest leader in the last 60 years
You're talking about someone that let Moroccan soldiers rape and kill his own people. Not to mention all of the other awful things that his allies did to win, like massacring random peasants.

This. I have realized this (I'm 26) and I often look back at my school years with a deep sadness.

Everybody did awful shit back then and you forget it. What was the alternative? Domination by the Soviet Union? Invasion by a friendly but ultimately foreign nation? Franco did nothing wrong.

Don't you forget it I meant on a fucking phone computer is fucked

And yes Jose's ideology was not right wing or left wing as he said himself. He as much more esoteric and spiritual not so much concerned with how any given idea lines up with whichever side. Franco is what gave it the concreteness it needed to for Spain to survive.... Ultimately to be handed over to (((them))) by the fucking king...

How do we stop it

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>Everybody did awful shit back then
That doesn't excuse him.
>you forget it
No, I just know that he was a shitty person.
>What was the alternative?
For him? Not much. Why should I support the side that was just as morally and ideologically bankrupt?
>Domination by the Soviet Union?
Desperation caused that, just like how the Republican government was also fighting anarchists.
>Franco did nothing wrong.
Well, aside from helping tear his country apart.
>Ultimately to be handed over to (((them))) by the fucking king...
The elites created the conditions needed for the civil war to happen. I don't even think the Jews could have asked for a more volatile country than Spain

>HIGH FIVE!!!

Why are normies so fucking stupid

FRanco is an old history, irrelevant now, it's useless sentimentalism. Franco didn't unite and integrate the country and now Spain is in economic and political troubles

Hispandex people must return to their motherland, the US is no land for the Hispandexes. Surely we will be lost without you, but we will manage.

Wtf are you talking about Spain was doing fine after WW2. Decades later they started accepting (((trade deals))) and (((economic assistance))) from other euros and the US which started slowly subverting the country.

>Wtf are you talking about Spain was doing fine after WW2
after WW2 Spain was piss poor and people were starving. They started doing ok in 60s/70s

but again, Franco isn't an issue imho, he's long dead and his legacy doesn't matter

American whites are the last people that need to be telling OTHER whites to go back to Europe. Most whites in this country are fucking Germans that came here in the last 150 years, a good chunk in the last 100.

I mean actual whites, not the natives/mestizos.

Not gonna lie. I'm excited for the day Spain and France collapses. It will be a great opportunity to rise through power and create something pure from the chaos. Young American men should form militias to invade a collapsing western Europe.

Spaniards are cucks by nature, during the Franco dictatorship the leftists were cucks who didn't dare do anything against le ebil opressive regime, and now the Francoists are cucks who don't do anything except wave their flags and bitch and moan about le ebil gommies.
Spain's politics are completely subverted by all kinds of (((interests))), almost all parties are puppets of (((globalism))), the ones that aren't are either irrelevant, or Podemos which are actual gommies which is just as bad and will never become powerful enough to actualy be relevant in government. We've already seen that rather than work with Podemos the """""left""""" will happily go hand in hand with the right.

There is no proper right wing in Spain, the """""right""""" are statist cucks just the same as the left (there's a saying in Spain, the closest thing to a spanish lefty is a spanish right winger). There's no significant liberal movement (literally liberal, not burger """"liberal""""" which is actually =progressive), so Spain will remain in the pocket of politicians and by extension of the (((globalists))).

tl;dr spain is a globalist puppet state and francoists are just larpers

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Spain is fucked

Franco is probably bones and dust by now, so why would they want that?

Could be worse, it was worse. Remember that.

>Descendent of the Empire here.

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>Why should I support morally bankrupt side
How about just supporting the side that won't allow foreigners to invade or subvert your nation? Since they all sucked, right?
>Franco helped tear his country apart
Wars happen sometimes shit has to break. If they hadn't won, Spain would have fallen behind the iron curtain and got fucked hard by communism. Using this logic we should abolish the police because oy vey sometimes the police break innocent people's stuff or *gasp* kill the wrong person in pursuit of murderers and rapists.

That'd be interesting. American whites "re-whitening" Europe. Or at least invigorating it the way their migrations invigorated the US.

>I have a right to be in your country ese!

No no it's alright, we'll get along without you and preferably the italians and jews too. Those negrofellows will also have to take their vibrant culture to africa, but I'm sure America will survive.

>Spain was doing fine after WW2
they were doing shit even before the war started

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Glad my ancestors left Europe. This seems to be so true of modern Europe.

You need to be killed

>Francoists

Jose Antonio is where its at. If people are voting for socialists, give them a dose of National Syndicalism. All the economics without any of the poz.

It was a fucking joke... Like any whites in America really have anything in common with modern Europeans. We are distinct, we have a whole continent basically.

The Proto-Indo-Europeans would spread their genes and culture by sending bands of young men to conquer weakened tribes.

I see you're that eternal Anglo everyone keeps talking about.

Yes I know no other country besides the US and Britain have done anything, ever. I know, I know.

I agree. I just say it cause I don't really know much about modern Spanish politics or what they all call each other.

>How about just supporting the side that won't allow foreigners to invade or subvert your nation? Since they all sucked, right?
Lol yes, BASED Franco was 100% an ethnic nationalist. I think you should do some actual reading.
>If they hadn't won, Spain would have fallen behind the iron curtain and got fucked hard by communism.
And instead, they got fucked by your messiah.

That's literally what Spain did for the first century in the new world. It was 100% men with like the tiniest trickle of females.

m8 we're just following your country's example and orders. Burgerland is greater Israel, and practically a third world country. Idk what you're glad about kek

>how do you stop it
like anything else: you just tell russia there is an abused minority in Spain. Then everything will be a-ok

>They got fucked by Franco
>Spain fully recovered from WW2 with no assistance from the Marshall Plan
>Hands over the country to King upon death
>Who else to choose?
>Kings are ultimately cucks and begin (((democratization)))

Franco is at fault for shit that happened after he died?

The US wasn't always greater fucking Israel. You know that.

it is now so who even cares

I don't have faith in our government doing the right thing, private armies or militias will be the only thing out of the US helping Europe's survival. Also, a French war bride and some land in Catalan is pretty good insentive for any young man.

Spainbro, why the fuck is Valencia such a shithole?

So let's not try and fight it.

Gypsies

they were in a long civil war before ww2 even started and spain had a huge empire at one point....

Ultimately this country stands a better chance of being corrected. Yes private militias all that. The stuff we have that they don't, which is why whites from the US will go back. Would love a Reconquista 2.0.

Heil fellow white European

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they literlaly have arabic as an official regional language in Andalucia. How is that not cucked?

And yes, alhambra must be nuked.

Talking about US....

Who cares? Spain must survive, it doesnt matter if they look like goblinos too. There is too much history in the peninsula.

Thank you ameribro... Don't all look like goblinos though thank God.

Anglo-bro kek

Because Valencians are braindead scum. They're even more corrupt than the average spaniard, and they think it's awesome to vote corrupt politicians into power.
They're also massive bootlickers, so even though Spain has always treated Valencia like shit they keep sucking up, maybe they think if they suck the spanish dick hard enough they'll get something out of it other than just a mouthful of splooge. At least Catalans have always been beligerant, and for some time that worked out (when the government needed their votes in parliament).

Damn is there really this much animosity between the regions in la madre patria?

jk I've been to Valencia and it's actually much nicer that the other cities, including M*drid.

Spain went to shit in the 19th century, and from then on became irrelevant on the global scale. They lost all their colonies because they treated them like shit and only plundered their resources (and all the gold they stole increased inflation so it didn't even do all that good). That led to ongoing political instability during the 19th century, at the crucial time when countries started industrializing. To top it all off Spain had a bad disposition for industrialization, very few natural resources (especially coal and iron), and a very hilly terrain making railway lines expensive to build.

Had the Carlists seized power in the 19th century, would Spain be stronger today?

It has nothing to do with regions, spaniards just generally hate each other. There's no sense of fraternity in Spain, so everyone just tries to fuck over everyone else.

No idea, I'm not that well read in historical matters tbqhwy

unironically fucking based

Some nations have had their heyday and maybe never will again. Even if that's the case, doesn't matter. Spaniards and their descendents have a duty to maintain stable white societies. First we just have clean house...

Seems like Spain also got fucked by geography. I've also noticed that Spain is kind of naturally poor in resources. But modern Spain is actually doing well in the sense that they still have modern technology and are actually leaders in some sectors.

They won’t stop until everyone is fucking dead!!

Really?It's the complete opposite with Hispanics here of the same nationality but even moreso with race. Damn that's really surprising to hear.

>wow, leader in olive oil production.

It wouldn't matter. The forces at work would have taken Spain in the end.

Valencia is a tiny city of not even a million inhabitants. However all spanish cities are pretty shit. The Franco dictatorship had some good things and some bad things, one of the bad things was their approach to urbanism, they basically wanted to be like the US, but with francoblocks instead of suburbs, and the rampant speculation did the rest.

In regards to just urbanism, Barcelona is probably the best of the bigger cities, they're doing loads to make the city more walkable, reduce traffic, imrpove public spaces, public transit, that sort of thing. Of course there you have all the degeneracy, niggers, shitskins, commies and other riff-raff fucking it up. Then again you're a burger, so no offense but you probably don't know much about urbanism and think that proper cities are some sort of commie plot, when really it's just going back to the traditional, non-degenerate way of building cities.

Can Spaniards just "go" to Chile, user?
I visited Santiago, thought it was awesome.

That's Italy I believe and no look at solar generation. It's humble but whatever it still pushes us forward that much more. If you expect all white countries to be on the level of the US you are being really unforgiving to our European bros.

Come to Florida help make it more white.

WHAT HAVE I BECOME!!
MY EMPIRE OF DIRT!!
AND YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL!!

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Yeah, empires all run their course. Rome, Britain, Spain, Burgerland...
The thing is, on a conceptual level, empires wither away because as they reach their zenith they become reluctant to advance and want to stay fixated on their current situation, which stunts their progress. Also corruption and inefficiency often set in. And as decadence begins, they just look to the past, trying to recapture former glory, when they only became great when they were advancing towards an unknown future, never towards a previous state of existence. That's why there's no becoming "great again". It just doesn't work that way. Not for spain, not for you guys. Sorry about the blackpill, but it's just the way things are.

Have some respect, that empire helped lay the foundation for whites in the new world.

and good ridance to him.