Redpill on smoking: The reason (((they))) impose laws on smoking

You can be healthy and enjoy a good smoke and beer from time to time user

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Anyone suggest a good starter kit?

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that's a nice piece

get a corn cob and get an aromatic blend to start with, something light and sweet that smells nice and not like an ashtray

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aromatics are fine as long as they aren't over the counter (drug store / gas station). too much propylene glycol = tongue bite.

>get an aromatic blend to start with
NO
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Link to specific products on ebay or amazon to start with please - i know nothing about tobacco or smoking

i only smoke cocks :)

Smoking is a filthy disgusting habit only ever done bu the lowest scum of society.
>Tobacco smoke has a myriad of benefits
No, it doesn't. Go die, shill.

Who /Copenhagen Wintergreen longcut/ here?

Yeah thats true

Why? Thats how I started

I reccomend going to a tobaccinist if you can
They really know their stuff and will recommend the best tobacco to start with
Otherwise look up some videos on youtube

Does it work with dipping tobacco?

I chew the welfare bear. I just like it better after dipping copehagen everyday for 2 years straight

Yo I know this old hick in perry county penn. That grows tobacco. He rolls this blend with dried cherry thats delicious. I sometimes trade him produce for some of those rolls.

The site pipes and cigars is really good, attached linked is an excellent starter aromatic without any of the added bs jew put in you leaf. Just quality tobacco.

>pipesandcigars.com/p/east-india-trading-company-officers-club-pipe-tobacco/1487936/#p-172074

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Why shouldn't I grow my own shit?

I know it takes a year to cure the leaves so is there any way to force cure them e.g. microwaving them?

I would advocate you grow you own leaf once you know what taste you prefer, otherwise you might not end up enjoying your final product

I don't give a damn about the taste, I do it for the feeling of breathing fuckin fire

but sure here is a good cheap pipe
7 bucks cant go wrong
amazon.com/Missouri-Meerschaum-Country-Gentleman-Tobacco/dp/B006SOFY3K
And heres a really nice black cavendish
pipesandcigars.com/mobile/p/hearth-home-signature-berry-nice-pipe-tobacco/1472949/

Should I start smoking for optimal test gains?

Mississippi Meerschaum makes the best corn cob pipes and you cannot beat the price point

>pipesandcigars.com/p/missouri-meerschaum-legend-pipes/1466445/

it takes a lot of work. and I don't mean its hard I mean its a shit tone of work.

And you can just as easily go without it. Why is it so hard to not drink or smoke? Doesn't make your life easier. 99.99% of the time it makes it worse.

And smoking is no good for working out.

Yes, pipe smoking only. Get into English blends and pure Virginia leaf. Two year cellared Latakia tobacco will jack your T levels.

Because I have a stressful job and i get heart palpatations from stress, relaxing in the forest having a pipe on the weekend really helps

might as well smoke a jigaboo stoge from 7/11 then

You should. It's really easy, just make sure you start them early indoors. Pic related, my garden is roughly 25' x 12' to give you idea, they get pretty big

Curing depends entirely on the type of tobacco. Generally Virgina Gold and Burly are air cure (easiest at home), with Turkish being kiln cured.

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>tfw its illegal to grow tobacco in aus
Fuck this country

sounds expensive.

On curing - an attic works fine for color curing Virginia Gold and Burley, as long as you have two windows to control temp/humidity. Pic related, part of my crop curing.

Basic steps after harvest are
>clean
>hang dry/color cure
>shred
>ferment
>age
Shredder you can get on eb or azn for 25 bucks. Shred color cured tobacco and put it in a tobacco press for at least an hour, pack tightly in a mason jar afterward, seal tightly and let it age for a few months in a dark place

Protip on the tobacco press for anyone into this sort of thing and cheap af like me: 3" diameter PVC pipe, 2 standard solid rubber hockey pucks (which are 3" diameter) with wax paper wrapped around them and a large C-Clamp

Oh and for it to not taste like shit, 15, 15, 70% blend of Turkish (adds a spice to it), Virginia Gold and Burley respectively give you the "American Blend" which taste like a Camel cigarette if you roll it. Alright I'm done writing my ebook now, kek

Punishable by what? Parking ticket or prison tier?
Fuck em' m8

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but really fags its dry snuff or nothing

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I've laid off of Jow Forums for like a year, and this is the first thread i see...Thanks for reminding me why i don't visit this shithole anymore.
>you're here forever
My ass

Bought into the anti soking crap for ages. Decided to buy some high quality mini cigars couple years back. Now I have a humidor and smoke couple times a week. It’s changed my life for the better. It calms me down. Lets me contemplate and unwind. When I go out to clubs Ill take a couple 4x25 quality cigarillos. Lets me be sociable, lets me speak like a non autist to people. Good convo starter too. People usually smoke cigarettes (which i hate) so when they smell nice little cigar, I offer them one and talk to people before heading back into the sound rooms.

Theres health benefits too. Helps protect neurotransmitters. Quick google search will show that Parkinsons patients benefit a ton from smoking/nicotine. It also helps with chronic anxiety. Helps alzheimers, etc.... list goes on.

Buy some high quality tobacco and enjoy the benefits. Dont let (((them))) fool you.

Just smoked a cigarette, my heart hurts now.

I'm in pretty fucking good physical shape.

>this mad

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@183181959
(You)

Cigs are trash

Run around the block then

You're back dude we all missed you lmao

I run 12km every weekend and do triathlons

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I never smoked until i was ~30 years old, feels good man.

non-smoke cucks will never know how much their lives suck

see you tomorrow :^)

American spirit, no additives

I work a pretty damn hard physical job, cigarettes make it twice as hard but I still do it. I remember how I felt before smoking. I smoke 4-6 cigarettes a day. My heart hurts after every time I smoke.

I want to quit smoking cigarettes because i hate the addiction but still like the buzz i get after not smoking for a day or two. Should i look into pipe smoking?

Copenhagen Natural LC here. Masterrace of dippers unite.

Yea thats what I did
I only smoke once a week now
One bowl will last a good 30 mins, and its way cheaper than cigs

I'm going to come and smoke a burn in your living room.

And to add to it, the reason (((they))) dont want you smoking good tobacco is that when you smoke, the nicotine binds to estrogen synthase. By blocking that enzyme, it doesnt allow estrogen to be made. Nicotine is quite the lovely chemical.

all the people talking about smoking raising test should post selfies as proof that they arent little cupcakes

anyone enjoy roll ups more? something enjoyable about rolling them yourself

Ok but you first.

>American spirit

you my nigger, light blue box for life mutha-fucka

I'll take that as confirmation that you're a little bitch

yeah thats what I smoke too

ebin
and here i wanted to believe there's reason we tossed an internet cable to your cucked island

Bobby Stoker straight

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I don't smoke, but I chew. Used to do long cut, but since the swedecucks invented tobaccoless nicotine pouches I've switched over to those to cut out gum disease and cancer. Works like a charm desu.

I just Juul.
Patricians choice

The only ones on that list that are right are the altered cognition and increasing the body’s sensitivity to testosterone. It’s a double-edged sword that harms you otherwise.

We've had a
>how old are you?
thread. Now we get
>do you smoke?
Yes. I smoke because I'm on Fire baby. I'm a 23 year old 6' 4" ginger haired Scottish Rastafarian with a tin leg and beard. My hobbies include knitting, flower arranging and cutting the guts out of sasanachs with me claymore. Bwana.

Pipe smoking is cheap as fuck. You can get an ounce bag of the more expensive stuff for under $3.

If you dont know a thing about biology/chem, you wont understand the mechanisms. It doesnt necessarily raise test, it just blocks the estrogen from being made. It’s anti onions.

not bad, could probably throw a good punch

been drinkin lately? cheeks a bit rosy

also not insulting you here, since you're clearly above the average Jow Forums poster, but you seem to be "casual gym fit" and not "hard labor fit" know what I mean?

are you me? sometimes i get the feeling that we are all the same person simultaneously observing reality objectively through a medium that just happens to be a cambodian clay-mation enthusiast internet board

I mean I certainly understand this, but what I want to see if that this estrogen blockage is effective enough to create a man, considering the significant decrease in VO2 max you're going to regularly have less physical output and therefore be less of a bad motherfucker

I don't know. Do you smoke because you switch between extreme anxiety and extreme anger dozens of times per day?

Kansas City fag using a proxy

You should keep in mind that buzz is just the alleviation of the withdrawal symptoms. It's easy to feel a jolt of endorphins when you're depraved of them.

Cigar and pipe smoking isnt the same as inhaling a shit cigarette. Studies on nicotine dont show a change with Vo2, FEV, and FVC.

rosy cos anglo
actually the other way around, i dont go to the gym at all
i do a lot of cardio and im a labourer

>t. never smoked before
a non smoker will feel a nicotine buzz more than anyone

American here. Virginia at that. So uhhhh yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.

Cannabis on the other hand! Legalize that shit now.

DUDE

okay now you spooked the shit out of me, short answer yes.

my father that i live with is nearly bedridden and taking care of him is slowly driving me insane and i cope with the living nightmare by drinking/smoking all day. i hate myself

post studies because I get winded as fuck trying to go for a run for up to 2 weeks after smoking, after that I slowly get my cardio back
i dont see it but thats fine, good on ya

okay you're not me but my fathers kidneys are failing and hes leaving his house to me

I work offshore. Smoking a pipe on the ocean is fucking elite, and one of the manliest things you can do.

Tobacco grows EVERYWHERE here. And it's cheap to buy. Smoke anywhere. They recently banned smoking in restaurants and bars. That sucked. But hey, whatever.

Now Cannabis.... if we could just figure out how to kill all the GOP baby boomers then we'll finally be able to smoke both types of cigarettes and not be criminals.

Wanna have a hole in your neck like Sonny Barger? Go ahead and take up smoking.

youtube.com/watch?v=hSwIPdQ4Kk0&t=329s

Heres a quick google search. Keep in mind this is with cigarettes too, not just nicotine.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/4039263/

>and the fact that you dont inhale,
Pipe smoker here.
you're doing it wrong.

What do you mean not bad? He doesn’t look like he works out at all. What the fuck do you even know about throwing punches you dumb faggot?

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That’s just all the extra testosterone these beefcakes have from smoking so much.

not bad relative to my assumption of the Jow Forums population you dumb little cunt, and a lot more than you
ill check it out

Whoa man you must be real badass, I hope I never have to meet you in a dark alley. I’m scared now.

remarkably my father is in good physical health despite his condition. how will you deal with your father's inevitable death? kidney disease is a real bitch and it gets bad real fast...

not trying to impose too much, but I figure your father will die before mine so i want to know what kind of head space you're dealing with. by any chance is his name bill?

read the abstract

>exhaustion occurs significantly sooner

hmmm

Tobacco is tasty and fun. It will objectively fuck your health in most cases. Even if you don't get cancer, you'll likely get emphysema, seasonal colds and flus are hell, you won't be able to maintain high levels of cardiovascular fitness, and things will get especially bad as you age.

This happens, but it's rare, and there's no reason to think he wouldn't have lived longer without smoking.

No not that. Good tinned tobacco is where it's at.

>get an aromatic blend to start with
No. Really anything will be fine, it's not a fucking cigar, except maybe some of the really dark cured tobaccos or something that just bites to hell

Don't start, it's tasty and enjoyable but there's no good reason to do it. For the money, time, health and inconvenience there's more fun things you could do.

McFucking kill yourself.

There is even less reason to do pure nicotine than there is to smoke.

mah niggah