Jow Forums generally regards the drafting of all 18yr olds for 18-30 months as slavery and wrong... usually coupled with the statement “you really want some draftee guarding your back, Ahmed?”
Jow Forums also hates the notion of citizenship/vote only for those who serve in the military, usually with the statement “vets are dumb, you want vets decide the future of the country?”
And then Jow Forums bitches about the degenerate youngsters using Tinder, being SJWs, being refugees welcome idiots.
You cannot have your cake and eat it too. Either we have a militarized society in which the population is generally shaped into a patriotic, defense force with knowledge of guns and tactics... or you have a liberal, “tolerance is golden”, degenerate society. These are the only options.
I for one think school should integrate military training from age 10 onwards and then at 18 everyone has to serve for 12 to 24 months depending on circumstances. This would create a cohesive, strong society with iron clad tight borders and noone would fuck with Germany ever again and no illegal migration any more. Also, a sense of belonging and “hey, we are in this together” would emerge, leading to a better world.
I agree mandatory military training is a good thing, but I don't see anything in my country worth fighting for anymore. Especially when your country is ZOG'd.
Jaxon Rogers
If your society is militarized again, your society is worth fighting for again. America is strong and all your people can have morals and a decent command of the English language in the future.
When your people are on the way to becoming minority status by the turn of the century it feels like I'm fighting for an America that isn't going to be recognizable to me by then. I can only put my life on the line for something where I know my people will have a future.
Adam Walker
Stirb für Israel Goy.
Eli Gonzalez
I have met Hispanics and East Asians in your country which were extremely patriotic and hard working. There are even black Americans trying to apply themselves. My guess is 85 percent of Americans are trying to live in the best country in the world and are proud of America. 15 percent are spitting on patriotism and promoting degeneracy.
David Ali Sonboly in 2016 killed several young immigrants in Munich. When an old German talked to him after he fled to a roof nearby and called him a wanker and told him to fuck off home... he shouted “I am German, I am German” and fired on the old German.
I am not saying David did anything right, he was wrong in his head, but he thought that he was a patriotic German trying to defend his country against illegal migrants trying to take over.
So no matter what your skin color is, you can be patriotic and try to fight for your country.
>Jow Forums generally regards the drafting of all 18yr olds for 18-30 months as slavery and wrong wrong i'm the leader of Jow Forums, and our official policy is that we should reinstate the draft it's important that the general population has skin in the game
Owen Parker
Oh yeah I know we have tons of patriots here of all races. They're not an issue and I would be happy to fight side by side with them in the instance of war. I just want to be able to fight for a future for my people. Ideally all races, whether black, Hispanic, or Asian, would do the same for their people and ensuring they'll have a piece of land to call home.
Noah Reyes
Hi my leader, I thought Canada has the draft, no? Germany has the draft, we just temporarily suspended it. There has been talk this will be reversed soon.
Colton Bell
You have trump because of your militarized society, it may not have a mandatory military training but it damn near does.
If you speak to an Asian American or a 3rd gen Hispanic American or a White American, everyone seems to speak in the same dumb modern American accent. So why do you want to divide them?
"But the children turned to a life of crime, for they were so poor they couldn't afford even a mirror"
Juan Allen
Wenn der Schassmigrat sich in die Spiegel seht. Danke sehr aber ich bin ja doch nicht so blöd wie euch ""echte Deutscher"" es denkt.
Aiden Cooper
Didn't you guys have conscription until 2011?
Grayson Nguyen
Can you repeat this in French or Italian?
Jeremiah Garcia
>America is strong No, we're weak because we've been inundated with civic nationalist garbage like you are pushing for yourself. I'm not fighting for Brazil 2.0 so go fuck yourself.
Easton Scott
Hahaha faggot, 19 years old and got exemption from IDF, only slaves and low IQ regards would waste 3 years of their life. You know how much money I make and save during this time.
Brayden Rodriguez
Who the fuck is that ugly bitch? Also, your shilling sucks. Just making shit up and sliding. When will we get out 2x2chan back?
Camden Harris
We still have conscription. We had typical German deal on the draft... when the economic crisis hit Germany, we had to save money, so we just cut 60,000 draftees from the military to save a few billion... as our economy needed labor, this increased our labor pool too. Two wins with one stroke.
But we never ended conscription, we could just agree to temporarily suspend it.
Isaiah Barnes
Retards* phone autocorrect
Mason Hernandez
>got exemption from IDF,
Gay or sick?
Jeremiah Ward
Told them I am unfit and I have depression and left wing thoughts
Anthony Anderson
I just want to see a future for my people. With current demographic trends continuing whites will be pretty much insignificant by the end of the century in America. When that's the case then personally for me I don't see why I would fight for this country when my people are just going to disappear anyway.
Henry Collins
And they really believed you? I call BULLSHIT. This is an anonymous message board, state rhe real reason faggot.
Jaxson Hall
Honestly, who cares about “whites” anyway. I grew up in Austria and Austrians are a mixture of Celts, Cro-magnons, Romans, Slavs, Huns, Alemans, Bavarians and we even have some Germanic blood. Both my parents have deep blue eyes and I have them too. But my mum has the darkest black hair ever, she is 100 percent Alpinid-Germanic.
So what’s “white” anyway? Why is a Spaniard not white? Why is a Spaniard Native Indian not white? Is a Slav white? What about a Lebanese girl? Or an Algerian? What about Afghans or Georgians? What about Nepalese?
If it was for a good cause that's one thing but I am not going to die for Israel's filthy wars
Dylan Hill
The good cause is to better your society which in turn leads to a good government which doesn’t wage wars for no domestic reason.
Landon Evans
i had this dude in my unit in basic training who said he is leftist and pacifist and asked for a psychiatrist he got a social worker kind of thing the army has, the dude recommended he get psychiatric evaluation. time passed on, he definitely did NOT get out, and my unit just didn't let him see the psych cause they didn't believe him. one day outside of the shooting range , ear plugs in, bam shoots himself in the foot. got out. you can't just say things and expect them to believe any of it. hell, even if they do, one can't just get exempt. you have to be either sick in your body or in your head (being extremely stupid sometimes also counts) with papers to back it up. or be haredi.
Colton Morgan
Sounds about right.
The people I know who were exempt from service in the Austrian army when I was drafted 15yrs ago were either truly medically chronic sick (some dude I know had a fucked up left hand, someone else was severely diabetic typ 1) or otherwise opted for pacifist “civil service” instead. But just saying “deprssion” or “left wing thoughts” wasn’t enough.
if we were much more militarized we would bomb you for fun every year and fly helicopters full of kids over it for school field trips. do you really want that?
Julian Ross
I care. I want to see a future with white Europeans and their ethnic groups. White is any European ethnic group. Spaniards are from Spain so they are white. I know some mixing has gone on there but original Spaniards are white. Same thing with Slavs where some mixing has gone on but original Slavs are white. Those other groups you listed had white populations in the past a couple thousand years ago in the middle east, especially with Afghans and Georgians, but through mixing there's very little left of truly white people. I myself am mostly English and Welsh so in America I kind've had to default to white since we're a mix of European ethnic groups over here.
Cooper Edwards
I don’t get your point. It’s like someone complaining a bouillabaisse includes mussles and crab but too little octopus next to the standard “white” bream, turbot, hake and monkfish.
At the end it’s just fish and the quality of the soup depends on the mixture, the spices, the veggies and the manner of preparation.
Do you mean you don't get the points I brought up with some of these white groups undergoing racial mixing?
Ayden Brown
No, my point is that a society can work even if you mix Central and East Asian, North African, Hispanic, Native Indian. No need for a “white” society.
Lincoln Wood
Multiracial societies don't last. At best people form their own ethnic enclaves away from one another and at worst you get civil war and/or balkinization
Brayden Foster
GAY Patriotism/(Civic )Nationalism is cancer
Zachary Ross
but you get only boulabaisse. in every restaurant, every day. if you would like some smoked salmon or some pulpo gallego, i'm sorry but it is already in the boulabaisse.
Hunter Long
As a European this white equals all Europeans thing just sounds really weird to me. When I hear white, I picture a pale, light blond, blue eyed Swede in my head. When you say Spaniards are white, something disconnects in my head. It's just nonsense, Spaniards are swarthy, they are European but they are swarthy. See, I think Americans are so standoffish against being called European that they cling to this notion of "white", whatever that may mean at the time. Ben Franklin famously did not consider Germans to be white. I don't consider myself white, I'm German by blood. My skin is pale but so is that of a Pole, yet I don't consider myself Polish or Poles to be German. If you go only by the big and well accepted racial groups, caucasian, asian, negroid, then you would have to include all kinds of brown people who are not native to Europe as white, which I think the US actually does on their census.
Racial differences go much deeper though, Swedes have a different racial make up as Spaniards, they also have different temperaments and those are not just cultural. They are different people, different races. Calling them both white/caucasian might be technically correct but it's similar to calling a golden retriever and a pug both dogs and acting like that's all that matters. Calling all Africans just black is the same inaccurate retardation by the way. You've come to learn for yourself that Somalians for example are a different kind of nigger than the ones you're used to at home. Africa is sprawling with different nigger varieties but they are not all the same just because they share similar dark skin tones.
Your heart is in the right place but you seem really confused about racial classifications.
Christopher Stewart
This is even more retarded though. Those societies would not at all be comparable to homogenous ones and way more stressful to live in.
Nathan Price
The military has been one of the most egalitarian institutions in the history of mankind and leftists revolutinaries from Robespierre, to Marx and Castro have absolutely loved the idea of being able to force people into military service. It's the first step into easing the masses into central organisation of society, hence why after WWI the American politicians had the motto 'We planned in war and won' so they found always new wars to be fought.
People should be able to form militias, to protect their homes from enemies foreign and domestic. In a militia the predominant spirit is not that of the soldier, but of the baker, the farmer or IT specialist or what have you nowadays. It's the people with skin in the game because the are defending their actual homes. The militia is independent, kept in check by neighbouring militias and much more efficient than a large standing army.
When the Greeks fought the Persians, they had ridiculously small armies, essentially their city militias and they fought off the whole military force of the Persian Empire. With today's technologies you could save even more.
Jace Lee
you wot m8 ? literally the favorite form of goverment in Jow Forums is the heinleinian republic .
service guarantees citizenship senpai >would you like to know more?