I decided to read the Bible to see what all the fuss is about

That's right bud, your interpretation and choosing of which ones to pay attention to and which ones to ignore is the right one. You're the ones that got it right! Nobody else with their thousands and thousands and thousands of versions! You must be so lucky! Or smart! Or God must be smiling on you, that's it, that's how you figured out which books were the REAL ones.

You don't actually read the Bible dummy head. You just say God is your reason for the good or bad things that you do.

>I decided to read the Bible to see what all the fuss is about.
Based
Also disregard the shills they have nothing to offer and when confronted with facts they vanish

This

you can literally just read the Bible and figure it out for yourself, it's not that complicated
if you actually want to discuss Bible passages that's fine, but acting like a smug retard without actually having any content to your posts makes you look like a mongoloid

read the gospels first
oca.org/scripture/how-to-read-the-bible

Pick and choose the shit that's actually theologically and practically relevant for today

Which OP would know if he hadn't fallen for the Baptist Boomer meme to not study it and just read it 'cover to cover' as if it's a single homogenous document.

The Good stuff starts about Matthew 5.

After understanding has finally dawned upon you (from the New Testament) then you can go back and read the Books of Moses (Genesis etc.)

Do your best, and then ask God for help. There is no worldview that does not rely on mankind going from 1 or 2 members to its current population. Oh, and people still get raped.

No, Jesus was referring to the talmud, the takenot of the pharisees, which had nothing to do with Moses and the prophets (the OT).

>if you actually want to discuss Bible passages that's fine
You definitely didn't miss the point of my posts at all. You understood them fully. Definitely. For sure.

>actually theologically and practically relevant for today
>theologically relevant
No such thing exists. Are you thinking of anthropologically relevant?

If you want to read the bible like a storybook, read The Story. It's not the bible, but it's the bible put in chronological order and intended to be read like a novel. Much easier to read, and as picky as I am, I really didn't see anything glaringly wrong with it.

Forget the memes and watch Jordan Peterson's bible series. There are layers and layers of supreme wisdom in this book. It's like a manual for existence. You need to read it again and again to decode it. But you can listen to Peterson if you want to get a glimpse.

I know, I started reading it but gave up when I realized all the main characters are Jews

he refers to circumcision as given to the Jews by the Rabbis and not Moses in John 7:22
circumcision is in Genesis 17:10-14

if circumcision doesn't come from Moses, but the Rabbis, then that means Genesis was edited by the Rabbis when Jesus walked the Earth

You keep saying a whole lot of nothing. Just fuck off if you're not going to contribute

The whole thing is anthropologically relevant, even the apocryphal books.

The imminent rapture, the Antichrist's NWO kingdom, the Ezekiel 38 war, Armageddon, the Second Coming of Christ Jesus.......not theologically relevant.....

>The imminent rapture
You people are beyond saving.

Trying to read the old testament. I got bored and stopped but should pick it up again. Surprised how much more I hate jews now. The book has increased my antisemitism by 100.

Fuck God fuck Jesus eat shit
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No. Don't do that.

I love JP. I really do. My heart goes out to him when he tries to understand the bible, and he tries very hard. And he does every well for someone incapable of understanding the bible.

I said incapable because understanding the bible requires God's assistance, not a high IQ, not a college degree, profession, or specialist. It's supernatural.

It's something you wouldn't understand, being on the wrong side of being a supernaturally assisted person yourself.

But it's a real thing. As the bible says, the unregenerate man accosts the bible like a brute beast, without understanding. And in order to understand the Word of God, you need spiritual discernment. And spiritual discernment only comes from the Holy Spirit, and almost always only from within.

Could you ever hope to have a grasp on how insane you sound?

the bible is the most anti-semitic book there is.
disregard "le jew on a stick" retards

No, he's not.

John 7:22
But because Moses gave you circumcision, you circumcise a boy on the Sabbath (not that it is from Moses, but from the patriarchs.)

Jesus is referring to circumcision given to what would become the Hebrews by ABRAHAM, 400 years prior to Moses.

It was just another example of the pharisees doing something on the sabbath, work, i.e. circumcising a boy on the 8th day, that they condemned Jesus for. Working on the sabbath.

It was a constant theme of Jesus' ministry to point out the hypocrisy of the pharisees.

True in a way, as you cannot be more saved than saved. Saved is pretty much it.

To the lost, sure. The gospel is foolishness to the lost; the cross is nonsense.

But to the saved, the gospel is the only hope for mankind, and the cross is the power of God unto salvation.

Rapture has been imminent for hundreds of years.

You believe in fairy tales.

Only kikes read the Old Testament.
Skip to Jesus being born.

>Read the Bible for the first time
>KJV

Well, there was your first mistake

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>Rapture has been imminent for hundreds of years.
nop. the bible says before the rapture happens X, Y and Z have to happen first.
Pre-trib rapture is for dummies

>that pic

Oil, motherfucker! Oil!

>>KJV
>Well, there was your first mistake

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Correct. Imminent. Without intervening event.

Problem is that people think "imminent" only means "very soon".

about to happen.
"they were in imminent danger of being swept away"
synonyms: impending, close (at hand), near, (fast) approaching, coming, forthcoming, on the way, in the offing, in the pipeline, on the horizon, in the air, just around the corner, coming down the pike, expected, anticipated, brewing, looming, threatening, menacing; informalin the cards
"a ceasefire was imminent"

It's been about to happen for a long time, and then, will happen.

The Old Testament doesn't pull punches. This is real life, the players aren't perfect caricatures of good and evil.

>The bible is all fairy tales, and I am like God through my knowledge of good and evil.

t. satan's stooge

Tell me what has to happen between today and the Rapture.

And unlike virtually everything else written at the time, and before, it tells the plain unvarnished truth about its own people, warts and all.

Convenient.

You genuinely believe in supernatural forces. You think that things that are immaterial can affect things that are material. You can honestly say you trust a magical invisible intangible all-knowing all-seeing sky grandpa (you'll use far more elegant words).

>incestous rape
why do you think christianity is a popular religion on the political larping forum of amine board? hmm now you know.
also
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sage

You will not always find the truth "convenient".

And you, with your infinite knowledge and wisdom, have scoured the entire multiverse and have come here today to inform us that there is no transcendent.

You, with your infinite knowledge, are telling me that there do not exist any beings with infinite knowledge.

>You think that things that are immaterial can affect things that are material.

That's actually a very rational belief. It's irrational and naive to assume that the perceivable physical reality is all that exists.

OP said point blank that he didn't understand what he read. Probably because the KJV is not written in normal modern English.

The Bible doesn't try to hide the flaws of the men and women the stories are about.

It even highlights the depravity of mankind in our fallen state in many parts.

This is actually an important part of the Bible.
It shows us why we need redemption.

Sun darkened, moon will not give her light.

>Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
>Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

>Mar 13:24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
>Mar 13:25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
>Mar 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
>Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

more in revelation

Let's just say this.

You have to trust someone to get through life. If you can't trust God, your Creator, whom can you trust?

That's prior to the Second Coming.

Rapture
7 years
Sun going out, moon dark, etc.
Second Coming

It's not the truth we are talking about here though, but a convenient choice of words. To talk about an imminent rapture for hundreds of years is as unthrutful as it gets without being a complete falsehood.

The Orthodox Church can help. Get a pic related if interested.
Alternately, (although this is not recommended) you can try to piece it all together yourself. There is an overarching theme that you might see if you pray, and ask God with a humble heart, and orient everything you read towards Christ. That is, the entire Story, or Picture comes together when viewed through the lens of Jesus Christ.

Keep asking questions user, and keep searching for the Truth! God bless you!

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so the comming son of man in the clouds is prior to the second comming?
So the only timem Jesus was in this earth he came from the sky in the clounds?

Fuck you are a retard

>but you can't explain literally everything either so "God did it" is a perfectly reasonable explanation
Except it doesn't explain a single thing. Not one.

Then why do you think you have objectively correct information about things that it is irrational and naive to assume about???

Other humans? You know, things that actually exist.

Let's see what the bible has to say about your position.

2 Peter 3
nowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water.

But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

That sounds like your position. It is your position if you do not believe in the Flood of Noah, and do not believe that God made the world about 6000 years ago, in one week.

The snatching up of the believers happens in the air, not visibly with the Son coming down from heaven on clouds, to set up his kingdom.

Rapture: Sneak attack, all believers disappear at once.

7 years later: Second Coming of Christ.

>It is your position if you do not believe in the Flood of Noah, and do not believe that God made the world about 6000 years ago, in one week.
Just listen to yourself.....

God did it is a good place to start. Because then maybe you'll start wondering if the guy who made the universe is a good person to pick as your enemy.

Good luck trusting humans, young one.

Better luck trusting humans in the afterlife.

Yes, directly providing apt foundation and bases for my posts.

From the bible.

So you start with your conclusion before finding your evidence. Brilliant logical reasoning there.

I'm extremely glad that I do not have to know someone as disgusting as you in real life.

>my book is right? my proof? the book says so

you are wrong.
belivers will not go in the rapture before the tribulation have you even read the verses i posted?

>Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
>Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

> Immediately AFTER the tribulation

what part of after you don't understand?

I didn't start there. I ended there. God did it. The alternative hypotheses are absurd.

Sorry you feel that way.

I cant wait to use your skull as a paperweight

>Then why do you think you have objectively correct information about things that it is irrational and naive to assume about???

I don't understand your question. I am saying that your doubt about the imperceivable immaterial being incapable of affecting the perceivable material is less rational than treating such as a possibility. The human mind is so small and fallible. We can't even perceive all that exists within the physical realm.

I have no position though. I am criticizing your position. Ever since Peter's words were written down, do you think there has once been a time where his words weren't an accurate descriptor of the civilized world?

For what it is worth, I believe in God.

YOU JUST SAID IT WAS A GOOD PLACE TO START.

30% of the bible is prophetic.

100% of bible prophecies come true. The bible tells the story of the earth from beginning to end, and has never been wrong on any count.

Only God's involvement could accomplish that.

Nostradamus is 8% correct, and you people go wild. Under OT rules, 99% gets the death penalty as a false prophet.

Is this a compilation of all the parts of the bible relevant to orthodoxy? What version of the Bible do the Orthobros use?

Yes, you posted verses about the Sheep and Goat judgment, which takes place on earth after the 7 year tribulation. Note that the people on Jesus' right hand stay on the earth, and enter into the 1000 year kingdom.

Set up by Jesus after the Second Coming.

This may be the first year you have looked into these things; it's not the first year I have.

watch Jordan Peterson's lectures on the bible

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>The human mind is so small and fallible. We can't even perceive all that exists within the physical realm.
>Therefore my ideas about God, that I came up with using my small and fallible human mind, are correct
Do you genuinely not see what you're saying?

>30% of the bible is prophetic.
>100% of bible prophecies come true.
You're giving me cancer.

Of course you have a position.

"I don't know".

While this may seem to you to be a valid position, as God did it, your wilfull ignorance is futile in the face of the Almighty, who can not only read your thoughts, but your heart.

Just gonna ignore like you ignore parts of religion that you don't like, eh?

Yes, for you, it's a good place to start.

I would also advise you to presuppose that everything in the bible is true, to save yourself some time. Alternatively, you should dedicate yourself to proving that just one thing in the bible is false.

You already had cancer, dead man.

I'm pointing you to life.

YOU JUST SAID YOU DIDN'T START THERE....... WHAT THE FUCK MAN???

Not really, no. Have some patience.

Congrats, you pissed me off by being an insufferable retard. Mission accomplished.

Correct. You asserted that I started with "God did it", and I told you that's where I ended.

The truth is not always convenient, or non-offensive.

No, you said that "God is a good place to start." Then you said "I didn't start with God, I ended with it."

Guess what? NEITHER matter because God does not exist and, deep down in your mind, you know that is a fact.

God is a good place to start.

It's not where I started.

It remains a good place to start.

There is nothing wrong with getting your dad drunk and fucking him to get pregnant

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If God doesn't exist, who do you not believe in?

Dude you are fucking delusional and have been drinking the kool aid from whoever is feeding it to you.
The verses i posted ARE the second comming, not the 3rd comming.

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

> and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
This is the second comming, if you claim this is
after the second comming then show me the verses that describe the second comming?? im waiting...

>This may be the first year you have looked into these things; it's not the first year I have.
I don't fucking care, i go with what the bible says not with what you say.

Are you sure the bible says that? Or did the bible say the daughters conspired to do that on their own?

Were their children, and the nations started by their children, not condemened as evil?

Yes, the Second Coming.

Which is 7 years after the rapture.

Your words are completely meaningless.

What kind of question is that? Why do I HAVE to believe in a supernatural inexplicable magical power?

No you retard the rapture takes place the very moment Jesus comes half way the tribulation.

Seriously what's with the rise of anti religious threads? They'd died off but seem to be coming back in full force all of a sudden. Its just the same crap over and over every time.