Next time some one tells you the Whites stole land in South Africa

Here is your short history lesson:

In the 3000 years since the end of the Stone Age, the indigenous people of Africa could not manage to create an infrastructure, could not mine or produce export, could, in fact not succeed in building anything higher than one storey and could not write down anything as reference for future generations, because they could not manage to master the art of writing. In fact, when the first Europeans arrived on 6 April 1652 it was 1974 years after Ptolemy I built the magnificent library of Alexandria – and in Southern Africa the indigenous people still could do no more than a few rock paintings and a clay pot with patterns on it.

Today, this development, this contribution of the descendants of Europe has become a threat to the Black South African. He cannot compare. He has no contribution that can remotely compare to what the white man created and therefore he has to fall back on what primal instinct tells him to do: Destroy that which is a threat to you!

It is against this background that the white South African is demonised as a slaver and murderer who stole land. Let us put this in perspective:

In the first place: The Europeans who came with Van Riebeeck had no intention to stay at the Cape. We can clearly determine this from the repeated application for transfer to Batavia or Amsterdam made by almost every Company servant. The few men who decided to make this their homeland, did so because they came to love the land.

They wanted to develop and grow here. And in the written evidence, left us by the men who did not intend to stay and therefore had no reason to lie, it is written down over and over again that the Europeans settled on uninhabited land. They exchanged land for cattle and money and traded with the nomadic indigenous people.

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sa-news.com/the-4-black-lies-about-land-in-south-africa-bantu-black-africans-do-not-have-default-right-to-land/
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14283502
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoikhoi–Dutch_Wars
slavery.iziko.org.za/vocandslavery
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mfecane
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The Company decided to import slaves.

I emphasize import, because no indigenous person in this country was ever put into slavery! In actual fact, the slaves who were brought in from Madagascar and Batavia and Ceylon and East Africa were the ancestors of an entirely new group of people: the Coloured nation of South Africa who adopted the customs and culture of the European.

Ever wondered why they did not adopt the custom of Africa?

Because they were not exposed to it, that is why! Nobody at the Cape ever set eyes on a black person for 130 years before the first Trekboere met the Xhosa in the Valleys of the Amatola around 1770! These slaves also added to the bloodline of the European settlers, as did the French Hugenots of 1688 and the British Settlers of 1820. The White South African was a new nation, born in Africa. This nation called its language, Afrikaans, after Africa. This nation called itself after Africa – Afrikaners.

On the first of December 1834 slavery was abolished in the Cape Colony. This is two years before the start of the Great Trek. The white man in South Africa knew nothing of the existence of the Zulu, the Tswana, the Sotho, the Venda...and he was at war with the Xhosa. It is chronologically impossible that indigenous people could be held in slavery, if the so-called slave masters did not even know of their existence before the abolition of slavery.

Let us look at the "great" Shaka Zulu and the Zulu nation. Remember that the Europeans landed in South Africa in 1652. Shaka kaSenzaghakohona was born around 1787. He managed to unite, through force and murder and rampage a number of small tribes into the Zulu nation around 1819. Before that year, there WAS no Zulu people. A question of mathematics: The Zulu nation came into existence only 167 years after the arrival of Van Riebeeck. What logic can possibly argue that the Europeans took anything away from the Zulu-people?

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So when did the black man establish himself in South Africa and how? The answer lies in the Mfecane: Mfecane (Zulu: [m̩fɛˈkǀaːne],[note 1] crushing), also known by the Sesotho name Difaqane (scattering, forced dispersal or forced migration[1]) or Lifaqane, was a period of widespread chaos and warfare among indigenous ethnic communities in southern Africa during the period between 1815 and about 1840.

As King Shaka created the militaristic Zulu Kingdom in the territory between the Tugela River and Pongola River, his forces caused a wave of warfare and disruption to sweep to other peoples. This was the prelude of the Mfecane, which spread from there. The movement of peoples caused many tribes to try to dominate those in new territories, leading to widespread warfare; consolidation of other groups, such as the Matabele, the Mfengu and the Makololo; and the creation of states such as the modern Lesotho.

Mfecane is used primarily to refer to the period when Mzilikazi, a king of the Matabele, dominated the Transvaal. During his reign, roughly from 1826 to 1836, he ordered widespread killings and devastation to remove all opposition. He reorganised the territory to establish the new Ndebele order. The death toll has never been satisfactorily determined, but the whole region became nearly depopulated. Normal estimates for the death toll range from 1 million to 2 million.

The black man established himself in this barren land now known as South Africa a full 174 years AFTER the white man. How dare you then call me a settler when you are nothing more? If I don't belong here, certainly neither do you.

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Nigger you're going about this in the complete wrong direction. The majority of the blacks in South Africa are Bantu. They came there AFTER the whites who are there now.

Land stolen from the black man? No. The land occupied by the Boer-people was land that nobody lived on, for the pure and simple reason that the original people of South Africa were massacred and wiped out in a racist genocide by the ancestors of the current black population of South Africa. The very same thing that is now repeated with the white man. The white man has a full and legal and historical claim to his part of this country, including land. And the black man who disputes that is welcome to bring evidence of the contrary. Remember, popular liberal myth, propagandistic expressions and loud shouting and burning and looting to hide your own incapability is not evidence. It is barbarism.

The popular myth of "the end of colonialism" is a lie also. Colonialism in South Africa ended on 31 May 1961 when the country became a Republic. White minority rule was not colonialism, because the white South African belongs here – you cannot colonise your own country.

The entire uproar about white oppression and white guilt and white debt is based, exactly like the concept of the rainbow nation and its Africa-democracy, on one big lie. In Afrikaans, a language of Africa, we say: However swiftly the lie might travel, truth will catch up one day.

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Black South Africa might as well realise that the time of the lie is running out. Your stereotyping of the white man and apartheid as the cause of everything, cannot hold much longer.

You cannot hide rotting meat under gift wrap for eternity.

Some time in the very near future you will have to own up and explain how you could hold a small minority of oppressed people responsible for the disaster that you have made of a country which has the potential of being a place of safety, a welcome and hospitable home, to all its children whether they be black, white, coloured on Indian.

The black man holds the key to the final destruction of what is left, or the final realization that we have no other choice but to peacefully co-exist. The black South African can no longer avoid admitting that the destruction of the white South African necessarily means the destruction of everything and everyone left on the southern tip of Africa.

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The Bantu arrived in northern and central South Africa around AD 500. They began to arrive in greater numbers in modern day South Africa in 1200ish. Long before Europeans.

The Bantu did not make it to the cape before whites did though. But they inhabited plenty of the country before Europeans arrived.

FACT:

The first White Europeans came to South Africa in 1488.

IN 1488.

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>The Bantu arrived in northern and central South Africa around AD 500. They began to arrive in greater numbers in modern day South Africa in 1200ish. Long before Europeans.
Source?

>it's ok to steal from weaker people
>the evil Muslims stole raided us innocent snow niggers and looted from us
never change snow niggers, never change

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Another stream of migration, moving east by 1000 BCE, was creating a major new population center near the Great Lakes of East Africa, where a rich environment supported a dense population. Movements by small groups to the southeast from the Great Lakes region were more rapid, with initial settlements widely dispersed near the coast and near rivers due to comparatively harsh farming conditions in areas further from water. Pioneering groups had reached modern KwaZulu-Natal in South Africa by 300 CE along the coast, and the modern Limpopo Province (formerly Northern Transvaal) by 500 CE.

courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-hccc-worldcivilization/chapter/the-bantu-migration/


Limpopo is the northernmost province in South Africa, for in case you're not aware. I'm not 100% sure how far south they had gotten by 1600, but the idea that no Bantus lived in South Africa before 1600 is a stupid myth.

Another article. This articles actually claims AD 300.

Another stream of migration, moving east, by 3,000 years ago (1000 B.C.) was creating a major new population center near the Great Lakes of East Africa, where a rich environment supported a dense population. Movements by small groups to the southeast from the Great Lakes region were more rapid, with initial settlements widely dispersed near the coast and near rivers, due to comparatively harsh farming conditions in areas farther from water. Pioneering groups had reached modern KwaZulu-Natal in South Africa by A.D. 300 along the coast, and the modern Northern Province (encompassed within the former province of the Transvaal) by A.D. 500.

scoop.it/t/colonialism-decolonization

sa-news.com/the-4-black-lies-about-land-in-south-africa-bantu-black-africans-do-not-have-default-right-to-land/
>The Bantu expansion was a long series of physical migrations. Between the 14th and 15th centuries, Bantu states began to emerge in the Great Lakes region in the savannah south of the Central African rain-forest.
In Southern Africa on the Zambezi river, the Monomatapa kings built the famous Great Zimbabwe complex, the Bumbusi in Zimbabwe and Manyikeni in Mozambique.
>From the 16th century onward, the processes of state formation among Bantu peoples increased in frequency. Examples of such Bantu states include the Lunda and Luba Empires of Angola, the Congo in the Great Lakes Region, the Buganda and Karagwe Kingdoms of Uganda and Tanzania and in Zambia / Zimbabwe region, the Mutapa Empire, Rozwi Empire and the Danamombe, Khami and Naletale Kingdoms of Zimbabwe and Mozambique.
>Smaller pioneering groups reached modern-day KwaZulu-Natal along the coast and the modern-day Northern Province where they began to make contact with northward migrating white peoples from the Southern tip of Africa.
>In the 18th and 19th centuries, the flow of Bantu slaves from South-east Africa increased with the rise of the Omani Sultanate of Zanzibar and Tanzania. With the arrival of European colonialists, the Zanzibar Sultanate came into direct conflict with Portuguese and other Europeans along the East coast, leading to the fall of the Sultanate and the end of slave trading in the mid-20th century.
So REAL history (not fanciful, imagined ANC pan africanist nonsense) tells us that when Jan van Riebeek established a trading post at the Cape the Nguni tribes had barely began to reach Zimbabwe and Mozambique.

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>whataboutism, the post.

>scoop.it/t/colonialism-decolonization
You just posted a link to a columnist that is publishing Marxist Communist Part of China propaganda.

Consider yourself discredited.

no it's called hypocrisy

I'm not sure about the time frame exactly, but what you said is broadly true.

>But they inhabited plenty of the country before Europeans arrived.
Not really. South Africa is a very arid country that can't be inhabited without agriculture. The bantu were herders for the most part, so they couldn't inhabit large swathes of the country due to inadequate grazing and water, and harsh condition. The country was mostly uninhabited. Add to that the mfecane, where Bantu massacred around 2 million of their fellow Bantu, most of the interior was uninhabited too. But Kwa Zulu natal was Zulu territory for a long time, it's near the coast.
>, and the modern Limpopo Province
A lot of people from there were slaughtered in the Mfecane

Most importantly, a century ago, there were 4 million blacks living in South Africa, and that's after three centuries of access to the white man's food. Today there are around 50 million. Not all of that is through reproduction. Tens of millions of blacks are immigrants from surrounding southern African nations.

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Are Khoi and San not considered true blacks for the purpose of this history? They are completely different genetically, right?

Who said it's okay to steal from weaker people? When did whites do that in relation to South Africa? Muslims had done what the did to us nearly a millennia before.

They're capoid not negroid. It's not about true blacks, it's about different kinds of blacks. The Khoi Khoi and San are the only true natives of South Africa, the Bantu (Zulu, Xhosa etc.) were violent invaders that originated in western Africa and expanded into SA

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Capoid

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Negroid. They're quite different people

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i dont care, none of this shit matters

south africa will belong to whoever is willing to kill for it

>there were much less than 4 million blacks living in South Africa

By Allah never saw a mockery such as this. Just wait for promise of Allah you stinking self righteous kuffar, indeed his punishment will be the most befitting

it matters because it's a view of the future for all whites on Earth

>Who said it's okay to steal from weaker people
op implied it in the first 2 paragraphs
>When did whites do that in relation to South Africa?
the last 300+ years of south African history
>Muslims had done what the did to us nearly a millennia before.
i know
and you keep bitching about it, while doing worst to africans
>Are Khoi and San not considered true blacks for the purpose of this history?
they were treated far worst than bantu blacks by europeans, drove them near extinction
>They are completely different genetically, right?
yes

This, there's plenty of articles around how the Bantu migrated everywhere and took over
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14283502
>My dad (Bukusu of Western Kenya) once met a gentleman from the Venda tribe of South Africa, and they conversed in English for an hour until the South African got a phone call that he answered in Venda. My dad understood practically every word that was said on the phone, and they each discovered this tribe they'd never heard of before had more language overlap than their neighbouring Bantu tribes back home.
>It's fascinating if you consider just how big an area we're talking about, and how much opportunity existed for other languages to wipe out Bantu dialects. I'm no linguist but I think Africa has a propensity for multilingualism that has kept these tribal dialects alive, and aside from DNA this gives the strongest evidence of the past migrations of Bantu people.
>migrations of Bantu people
>Bantu
>South Africa
>recent migrants

South Africa is essentially entirely made up of migrants. The black have no special claim to it they're just recognizing the cucky, white guilt United Nations leaders who won't stop them from hijacking land from other migrants. You can't blame the Bantu for exploiting our own weakness it's how they managed to take over from all the other tribes in the past.

>building anything higher than one storey
>>sumggie.png
>>>"You almost persuaded me to rethink my point of view...but I noticed you made a typo."
>>>"Nice try."
>>>"Better luck next time, pal."
Saw that and couldn't think of anything else.
Next genocide, please proof-read your post.

You still dont belong on African soil, cracker. I dont believe any of the hurrrr there was no one using the land till daah Boers came bullshit false history anyway, whites are notorious for rewriting history

I will string you up you shit colored monkey

>op implied it in the first 2 paragraphs
You have poor reading comprehension
>the last 300+ years of south African history
Who was stolen from? I'm so fucking tired of historically illiterate people lecturing me on what happened in my country.

When whites first arrived, the natives they met they lived peacefully with. They'll say so themselves. They could live in white settlements and even marry in white churches, with whites. Then came something called the Mfecane, where a completely different people not native to South Africa, was genociding other blacks. Who then fled into white areas seeking refuge, whites fought off their attackers and then settled outwards into the land now left uninhabited by the black on black genocides. While giving the black refugees their own homelands. Homelands they'd have into apartheid, which during apartheid, they were governed by their own laws and were even given arms to police themselves. During this period, whites killed around 2000 blacks in 50 years of apartheid, only around 500 of those by security forces. In a single fucking year now, there are over 20000 murders. Apartheid was objectively the most peaceful period in recorded South African history
>they were treated far worst than bantu blacks by europeans, drove them near extinction
Absolute bullshit, whites bred with the Khoisan,. It was the Bantu who were slaughtering them. What the fuck are you talking about shitdick?

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I don’t need that history lesson. When people bitch about white people in Africa I just tell them that they’re returning to their mother land, because we all came from Africa at some point anyways.

>there was no one using the land
The country was mostly uninhabited because it has a very harsh environment with large swathes incapable of habitation without agriculture. Zulus are bantus and herders primarily, they inhabited the east coast. When they went inland, they genocided around 2 million of at MOST, a 4 million large population, in a country larger than Germany and Poland combined. Learn your fucking history!

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>You have poor reading comprehension
do i?
what does he mean by that then?
>Who was stolen from?
khoisan largly
>When whites first arrived, the natives they met they lived peacefully with
>Absolute bullshit, whites bred with the Khoisan

have some shame you lying piece of shit

>sumggie.png
"Storey" is British English (as opposed to "story" in America); the text was written by a South African.

Next smuggie, please be less ignorant of the English language.

>You still dont belong on African soil
Does China belong to Russians because Russia is part of Asia?

Anyways if you're so concerned about blacks having total control of all of Africa, you might want to start chimping out about the fact that China is openly colonizing Africa right this minute, including breeding Chinese men with African women.

You're getting CHINKD.

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Lying? Where the fuck do you think coloureds came from? Theyre the descendants of whites and Khoisan intermixing. There are more coloureds than there are whites. Jan Van Riebeeck's second in command married a khoisan woman in a white church you fucking imbecile. Whites lived and traded peacefully with them you utter faggot

don’t complain when a bomb falls on your wedding pussy ass bitch

Blacks are notorious for not writing anything because they’re illiterate subhumans

Pretty tough talk for a guy who can't even eat bacon.

The irony is that the British liberated Africans from the slave trade, and it's largely thanks the efforts of Earl Grey (yes the guy the tea is named after) and the blockade against slave ships enforced by the royal navy that the transatlantic slave trade ground to a halt, and this created a political climate that brought the question of slavery to the fore in the new world and was a contributing cause in several slave revolts and civil wars.

The British did not enslave Africa, they liberated it from slavery.

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raped, killed and enslaved them and imported zulus to carry on their genocide
yup that's right
the dog that Dutch East India Company imported to genocide khoisans is now growling at you. prepare your anus for some karma you piece of shit
i'm fascinated by them and know their history very well
go shill on someone else
very related
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khoikhoi–Dutch_Wars

>While the Dutch traded with the Khoikhoi,
>traded
> nevertheless serious disputes broke out over land ownership and livestock. This resulted in attacks and counter-attacks by both sides
>attacks and counter-attacks by both sides
Yeah, you can fuck right off, there was no raping and enslavement you fucking liar. It was a land dispute with clans outside the ones that were living with whites.
No one imported the zulus faggot, they imported themselves.
Are you denying that coloureds are now the descendants of white and Khoisan mixing voluntarily? You're so full of shit.

>Are Khoi and San not considered true blacks for the purpose of this history? They are completely different genetically, right?
>Capoid


fascinating

the gods must be crazy!

>Dutch East India Company imported Zulus
Source?

you do tend to have land disputes when someone takes your fucking land, then proceeds to steal your cattle
i don't give a shit about the rape babies
because that's what they are
you chimpout when a few niggers marry a few snow nigresses out of a billion snow niggers
but boast how moral you are for taking a woman from the people you drove near extinction who's dna is more unique than your mother's sex habits with elephants

Notorious for being the only people able to read and write

slavery.iziko.org.za/vocandslavery

I personally disagree with the mixing, I disagree with all mixing, but it happened, it wasn't rape, they lived in the same communities and married in white churches.
>your mother's sex habits with elephants
I bet you thought that was hysterical when you typed it out. You clearly aren't interested in discussion of the facts, you want to squawk about white injustice with no reference to reality.

i am interested however you're lying and deflecting
trying to use intermarriage as proof that all was good
it was part of the genocide you dip

None of that is true.

The word "Zulu" doesn't appear even once on that page.

You're full of shit. Looks like you're no better than the common thief and liar named Muhammad.

Yeah, horseshit again. Those slaves were from Indonesia, not Zulus. Are you saying there was no slavery in Africa? Who stopped slavery? Tell me.

>british-english
>usa flag
Nice meme flag, pal.
Swap your VPN to a country that uses "English-English" instead of "American-English."

it does mention importing slaves, you connect the dots
and no they're not from indonesia, VOC had a big share in trans atlantic slave trade
do you want the name of each slave too?
how did the various bantus move into white colonized south africa?

your avoiding the topic. its not about what they achieved if some one says the whites stole the land. it was their land. by your logic i can shoot you and rape your wife and your home then becomes mine because you havent achieved anything. where are your great works of art? what monuments have you built? why dont you have a giant mining shaft in your back yard whitey? fuck this muh people shit what have you done? nothing so prepare your anus and your land is mine now

Or I could ignore them like usual instead of reading your thesis paper.

The TAS missed South Africa genius. And yes, they were indonesians, the Dutch didn't trade in Zulu slaves you fucking idiot. The bantus were driven into white colonised South Africa, by the genocide of other Bantus driving them to whites for refuge. Which whites then gave them and created their own homelands for them to govern themselves.

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>this pathetic attempt to save face
As I said, the text is pasta that was written by a South African, I found it in a youtube comment.

Why don't you just admit you haven't read enough books to even know there are alternate spellings for some English words outside of America?

>it was their land.
You missed the point and didn't read. Whites traded with the natives for their land, the people that are here now were invaders from the north, who killed 2 million other Africans less than two centuries ago, leaving the land mostly vacant, as well as not having the agricultural skills to inhabit most of the interior of the country in their history.

so like i said, imported them to genocide and replace khoisan
out of your good heart of course because other bantus were being mean and you can't let that happen

>it does mention importing slaves
>and no they're not from indonesia
They were Indonesians and Eastern European Whites.

>how did the various bantus move into white colonized south africa?
By walking.

>whites stole the land
Who did Whites "steal" the land from?

>implying you can read beyond a 7th grade level

No you fucking idiot, the Bantus were given homelands inland, not in the Cape where the Khoisan lived. Oh jesus, you have no idea about the history of the land and you're making ass ended assumptions when you know shit about squat.

sure nice of snow niggers to let them tread in unobstructed
so how did they clash with khoisan?

He's a jew pretending to be a Muslim to stir the pot. He doesn't care about the truth.

What do you think of jews?

i never pretended to be a muslim you piece of shit, i'm agnostic

>Whites are so evil to blacks
>The only actions blacks can take are those dictated by whites, they have no autonomy and when they do, it's still whites fault
The ones that moved there themselves got into conflict, whites didn't move them there. Look at pic related. Point out the Bantustan (Bantu homelands) that were in the Cape. You were wrong, whites didn't import the Zulu, whites didn't import the Zulu to genocide the Khoisan, and the Dutch imported slaves were Indonesians. You were wrong, be a man and admit your mistake. Stop trying to act like an expert when you don't know the basic history of the country.

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Don't complain when you get runover by the truck of peace :)

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What do you think of jews, though? Are you Arab?

>take over khoisan land
>try to genocide it's natives
>steal their cattle
>defeated ,they fully submit to your authority
>you import bantus
>let them have their way with khoisan
>we dindu nuffin dem blacks capping eachother
i'll go google farm killings to feel that justice exist

>you import bantus
When and where? You're denying the facts because you don't want to admit you're wrong
>try to genocide it's natives
Proof?
>let them have their way with khoisan
Nigga what?

Another know nothing know it all.

>When and where?
here and then >The bantus were driven into white colonised South Africa, by the genocide of other Bantus driving them to whites for refuge

They weren't imported genius, they fled into white lands to keep from being genocided by other Bantus. Whites then gave them homelands in the interior. See the map, the Khoisan were in the most south western tip, the Zulu started on the east coast and raided and genocided inland. You sincerely don't know what you're talking about

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>they fled into white lands to keep from being genocided by other Bantus. Whites then gave them homelands in the interior
so..imported

>import bantus
You still haven't provided evidence of this.

>let them have their way with khoisan
It's up to Whites to protect non-White Africans from one another?

>steal their cattle
They didn't have cattle until Europeans gave them cattle.

Would you have preferred if the Whites slaughtered the bantu as they tried to enter the region?

Khoisans made deals with Dutch for the land. The Dutch came accross Bantus who immediately massacred the Dutch and the Khoisan. Bantus are Negroids and Khoisan are Capoids.

Most of the Khoisan mixed voluntarily with the Afrikaners. The Zulus were a detachment from the East. Coloureds are mixed-race hybrids between Afrikaner and Khoisan Capoids. Most of the other Khoisan live in Namibia, which is next after SA. Coloureds are the last remnants of Khoisan in SA. You need to ally with them and the Indians because they will be killed next. If you all pool numbers, you'll have a stronger army.

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I would have.

No, not imported you fucking idiot. Whites didn't move them into the Cape. They moved them out into the Bantustans. They walked to the Cape with their own two feet, whites didn't move them there. You're being deliberately obtuse, i'm going to go eat my boiled egg before it gets cold.

America isn't like your land. Though Khoisans and Coloureds are decent, they would be immediately treated like shit here. Most African Americans are West African Bantus, hence thug kaffir tendencies and high crimes.

What do Afrikaners generally think of the Coloureds from an alliance standpoint?

Ignore the Semite. You know the truth, I know, some of Jow Forums knows.

Are you that infinitychan refugee? You might want to stop calling coloureds hybrids, I don't think they'll like that. Call them coloureds.

>You still haven't provided evidence of this.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mfecane
do i need to spoon feed you everything?
>It's up to Whites to protect non-White Africans from one another?
yes, especially when it was whites who severly weakened and almost caused the extinction of the Khoisan
>They didn't have cattle until Europeans gave them cattle.
eat shit please
yes

>they just strolled through the country bro
should have stopped them

I think it's sad as fuck how Amerimutts ignore the reality that a second good group and a third (the Indians) will be exterminated.

South Africa would be better if it stayed Khoisan & Afrikaner like in the very beginning. The Bantus are the only ones doing crime and unlike Mulattos in Brazil, your Khoisan descendant mixed-race are a lot more decent and productive.

And yes, I am. We've met before, I presume. I'm a nationalist type so I call them hybrids (I ran what you would call a coloured facist cell) but if they prefer coloured, I'll just go with coloured.

fascist*

>We've met before, I presume.
No, I was lurking in the SA general thread. I didn't converse with you directly.
>What do Afrikaners generally think of the Coloureds from an alliance standpoint?
Some hate the idea, some see the necessity of it, others like the idea. Like with everything else, there are lots of opinions.

Strangely enough, In the USA, they'd be considered 100% Negroid. I wish I had to luxury to have been born in South Africa or just anywhere else.

Many of the coloureds in Liberia built infrastructure and even mansions, as well as a Masonic Lodge but the Blacks in co-habitation with them took over and dominated Liberia for 140 years. The ones who could have made Liberia successful died around 1950 and of course, we all know what happened to Liberia later. The Krahn guy (May be a Bantu offshoot) killed the Black president there and it all went up in smoke.

Well, what do you think of it? I'm not even from there and I see that it would be better to have 7,000,000 more soldiers than dealing with being killed off one by one by invader profligates.

>You still dont belong on African soil, cracker
You still don't belong on American soil, nigger.

Eat a dick, kike/nigger/troll/paid shill

I like coloureds, I went to a school with lots of them. For the most part they're good people. I don't mind Indians, i'd never trust them with money though. As for fighting together, I don't oppose the idea so long as we separated afterwards but I don't particularly like the idea either. My personal instinct would be to agitate for a homeland for each group, coloureds, Indians, Afrikaners and Boere and a much much smaller one for english speaking whites. That way, we all get what we want, and it fucks over the Bantu by decentralising power.

There were more whites than blacks in SA when it was colonised.
Because we were keeping them they bred like crazy and this is the result.
We must learn a lesson. A final solution can the be arrived at.

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I'm sorry to be rude but i'm going to go eat breakfast. I got up before six and came straight on. Good luck with your plan

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mfecane
This isn't evidence for what you're claiming.

>yes, Whites must protect black Africans from one another
Should they tie their shoes for them as well (after having given them the technology of shoes, that is)?

>yes (they should have exterminated the bantu invaders)
Why?