Is punk rock controlled opposition?

Anti-establishment, degenerate life style, often politically motivated. I grew up listening to punk in early to mid 90's, played in a punk band for a few years, and still like it for the music, but I'm finding the overall theme of it all very much a clown show now

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They used to be anti-establiahment when the right had control. Now they have become the establishment and they don't know what to do so they just continue beating on the new counter culture in an ironic twist.

I wonder who killed gigi allen

glow in the darks force fed him his own shit until he drowned in his own shit. a fitting end to a Punk G*d

All the kids I knew that were punks in high school are either on disability, dead or homeless in Toronto sucking fat old gays for 20 bucks.

Glow in the darks? Good thing it wasn't recorded on a documentary

The final scene of “SLC Punk” says it all.

Don’t know why I can’t source a version of this without spanish subtitles...

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I am Governor Jerry Brown
My aura smiles and never frowns
Soon I will be president...

Carter Power will soon go away
I will be Führer one day
I will command all of you
Your kids will meditate in school
Your kids will meditate in school!

[Chorus]
California Über Alles
California Über Alles
Über Alles California
Über Alles California

[Verse 2]
Zen fascists will control you
100% natural
You will jog for the master race
And always wear the happy face

Close your eyes, can't happen here
Big Bro' on white horse is near
The hippies won't come back you say
Mellow out or you will pay
Mellow out or you will pay!

[Chorus]
California Über Alles
California Über Alles
Über Alles California
Über Alles California

[Verse 3]
Now it is 1984
Knock-knock at your front door
It's the Suede/Denim secret police
They have come for your uncool niece

Come quietly to the camp
You'd look nice as a drawstring lamp
Don't you worry, it's only a shower
For your clothes here's a pretty flower

Die on organic poison gas
Serpent's egg's already hatched
You will croak, you little clown
When you mess with President Brown
When you mess with President Brown

[Chorus]
California Über Alles
California Über Alles
Über Alles California
Über Alles California

Punk was dead on delivery, neo-punk is where it's at but it's not here yet.
Give it a few decades

I know someone who went to a folk punk festival and came back an extreme radical Facebook leftie, so I’d say yes

Initial NY punk was real
UK punk was 100% kike made and more commercial, pro-establishment than anything it was supposedly against

NY Punk was an idea
UK Punk was a fashion

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music overall is the most intelligence agency controlled media there is

I guess you prefer the sound of hitting two sticks together

no I listen to music but I try to not let it influence me politically

I used to be "punk" in high school until I came to the same conclusion. It was never about thinking for yourself or personal freedom "punks" just follow around their favorite band and parrot shit they don't actually do any research on

>clown show
THIS

this

>friendly reminder that Bad Religion, THE punk band of the 90s is a jewish band

Mainstream punk was larping public school boys. Working class punk was better but too angry to get much air play.

In high school, 10 years ago, one punk kid told me that Hillary Clinton would make a great president as a Communist
>"Communism says 'what can I do for you?' "
It was then that I first learned about how retarded punk kids could truly be

>when the right had control

Jew have completely run America since WWII

Punk was dead by the 80s never mind 90s.Original punk was apolitical & anti authority. As it should be.

The hippies hijacked punk. Original punkers hated hippies.

>Bad Religion, THE punk band of the 90s
thats cute

Punk had gone full Cuck
Bad Religion's new song "the kids are alt right"
Is a pathetically unaware pro establishment song that ironically ends up sounding like a pro alt right anthem.

Shit is fucked when punk is pro establishment

It was always Jewish nonsense. They never actually rebelled against anything, only destroyed generations of young people with their nihilistic bullshit. All the major players that are still alive are just carrying water for the global
Neoliberal establishment.


Link very related

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There are a lot of Jews in it

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They've always just been post-1968 hippies who arrogantly needed to think of themselves as different to/better than them, despite agreeing with them about nearly everything. See Joe Strummer.

Adolescent nonsense combined with sub-par musical ability.

As far as name recognition goes i think hes probably right.

I listened to this shit to get daddy-issues pussy

Operation Ivy tried to warn us...
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Listen up
Oh, take warning, take warning
Really gotta take warning

Stand by your friends, wrong or right
Can't call that justice when its just a stupid excuse to fight
Single out and attack
the ones who got no defense
You call that a new way of thinking
I call it regression to ignorance

Take warning, take warning
Take warning, take warning

There's a new generation coming
And we really gotta stand up to them
Take warning, take warning

Nobody's got a thing against you
Unless you've got something to prove
We don't need no new set of standards
We don't need a new set of rules
Heard all that shit before
About stomping out any difference
We say stand together!
not to fight just to exist

Take warning, take warning
Take warning, take warning

Intimidation coming
And we really gotta say no to them
Take warning, take warning

Enough is enough is enough
Why don't you just ease up
I saw another beat down last night, take warning
Who's the next to hit the ground tonight, take warning
Take warning

Take warning, take warning
Take warning, take warning

Intimidation coming
And we really gotta say no to them
Take warning, take warning

If you’re still a “punk” after the age of 22 you’re a loser. Some of us have tastes that evolve.

Did it encourage you to "wreck things"?

punk rock is fake and gay

ye

Same here, punk nowadays is as anti-establishment as David Rothschild. It was all a lie to fool dumb teens

Punk is just a fashion statement anymore, it doesn't mean shit. They all dress the same, think the same, support establishment politicians (think about that for a second, punks supporting a mainstream politician) and claim everything is acceptable you know unless you say something that offends them then the SJW comes to the surface. It should of been painfully obvious it was over when rock against bush came out, if you didn't already figure it out by them.

Those acne craters are punk. So is the jewlock.

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Don't call me white, don't call me white
Don't call me white, don't call me white
The connotations wearing my nerves thin
Could it be semantics generating the mess we're in?
I understand that language breeds stereotype
But what's the explanation for the malice, for the spite?
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Don't call me white, don't call me white
I wasn't brought here, I was born
Circumcised, categorized, allegiance sworn
Does this mean I have to take such shit
For being fair skinned? No!
I ain't a part of no conspiracy, I'm just you're average joe
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Represents everything I hate
The soap shoved in the mouth to cleanse the mind
The vast majority of sheep
A buttoned collar, starched and bleached
Constricting veins, the blood flow to the brain slows
They're so fuckin ordinary white
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Oh, we're better off this way?
Oh, say what you're gonna say
So go ahead and label me an asshole
'cause I can
Accept responsibility for what I've done
But not for who I am
Don't call me white, don't call me white
Don't call me white, don't call me white

> Michael John Burkett (born January 31, 1967), known professionally as Fat Mike, is an American musician and producer. He is the bassist and lead vocalist for the punk rock band NOFX. He is of Jewish heritage, but is an atheist.

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Used to be pretty good.

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>Degenerate life style

You listened to the wrong bands user.

...Of course? Why do you think they look like degenerates? how many have been influenced by this degeneracy?

And they’ve always sucked. Although I do like their prog record.

Rock Against Bush and Punkvoter were subject to criticism on multiple fronts. A similar (but more obscure) project was started by conservative punks called "Crush Kerry". In addition, more radical punks (especially anarchists) criticized the emphasis on electoral politics, as well as the tacit endorsement of John Kerry, who they believed was not much better than George W. Bush. The band Propagandhi decided not to participate when Fat Mike requested that they change the lyrics of a song critical of George Soros that they wished to contribute.

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Once the left had power, punk rock was no longer relevant.

Underrated thread.

I was listening to my old NOFX cds and idiots are taking over is such an anti left song in today's terms, whereas when it first came out I was like "Yeah fucking right wing idiots!" . I wonder where Fat Mike stands on the poltical spectrum today.

Also thinking on red pills makes leaving jesusland sounds like a song deliberately detailing how shitty and extremist the far left are and will lead to "burn(ing) orange county down, then off to Riverside , Bakersfield and Fresno too, and then WE'RE COMING AFTER YOU"

>Makes you think

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ebin

yes, i think so. most pop media from 1960-present probably is.

THE UNDERGROUND IS A LIE
You don't shock me. 1 shudder with boredom at everything you do, from tattooing your dick to chewing on your own poop. Not only have I seen all of your weak gestures before, I've seen them done better.

You remind me of someone I knew in college. His name was Mark. Pale, unshaven, and wearing his dishwater-colored hair in a Mohawk, Mark was an anarchist. He railed against the corporate elite and cheered for the collective. Projecting himself as his own mascot, he defaced hundreds of buildings with a goofy cartoon drawing of a Mohawk-wearing anarchist. The back of his leather jacket had an anarchy 'A' crudely daubed in white paint. Mark could be seen around town clustered with similarly disaffected youth, drinking out of paper bags, committing petty acts of vandalism, and plotting America's overthrow.

Unfortunately, Mark's parents were publishing magnates who had tucked away forty thousand dollars in stock for their baby anarchist. I once watched Mark transform into a sobbing bitch when he lost a bootleg cassette of his favorite hardcore band. Despite his lowlife appearance, he was a rich boy with the time and money to act poor. So were all of his friends. So are all of the people who consider themselves "alternative." Mark-you remind me of him.

Like Mark, your underground is strictly an upper-class phenom. You're a body-pierced, hair-dyeing, chain-smoking, whip-carrying FAKE, a little bitchy snitch who hasn't been hit enough. Your black eyeliner, rubber pants, and asymmetrical hairdo are a post-pubescent way of playing costume. You can't handle the guilt of your comfortable background, so you commit the heinous crime of slumming. No one worships trash in the slums, where they have to eat and breathe it daily. In poor neighborhoods, weirdness invites violence. Yet a blue-blooded nabob like you acts triflingly eccentric and considers it radical.

Fat Kike, the punk that never used drugs till he was in his 30's. It was all a business to him.
Now he goes around wearing a dress, married a porn actress, had a sexual slave and a BDSM dungeon.
Fucking jews, it's in their blood.

The "creative community" doesn't consist of the most creative people; you're the ones with the most spare time to create, those whose parents tolerate-and often finance-your flighty pursuits. What usually passes for art is just the idle noodling of the leisure class.

Your gizzard ululates with, "You sellout!" Well, the wealthy are the only ones who can afford NOT to sell out. Yes, there are a holy few who have refused cash when it's been dangled in front of them-they're called 'masochists.' If you're still reading this, you're a masochist, too. By the time I'm done with you, you'll reconsider your opposition to law enforcement.

In your typically egocentric way, you pretend you're the vanguard, freeing the oppressed from the shackles of ignorance. You conduct a sorry crusade to recast the world in your image. You're dumb enough to think you'll make a difference. You feel that if everyone was like you, society would be wonderful. Yet you walk away scratching your head when the truly oppressed don't want anything to do with you. You've never fought for anything but the right to be infantile.

Yup, I grew up in the "punk scene" in the States. Squatted in NYC, and a buncha othet places, hopped freight and hitchiked everywhere... I still travel constantly (mainly for work) and still hangout somewhat in that scene, tho I don't agree with about 80% of the commie braindead bullshit that come outta it. It's boring and cliche, and the majority of my friends that are still alive that I still hangout with are on the libertarian side of things. I lost a mahority of people do to being an outspoken Trump supporter and not towing the typical libtard faggot line. Most people in the scene want to feel superior to others, but are nothing more than followers. They are just normies that dress up like losers and think they're special. There are definitely some good folks that know whats up, but the average "punk" is an idiot...

>punk
It's dead. Punks were a revolt against everythig. Punk would not be for feminism, political correctness or any of that shit. Punk represented the rabid, animalistic, ragefull force presenting itself as a threat to very concept of civilisation.
Can you imagine GG Allin having anything but burning hatered for how "counter-culture" looks today?
They were by no means our allies but they at least were honest about what they are (rabid animals) and what they want (chaos). In this they are at least worthy of a little bit of respect unlike today communists larping as punks.

If patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels, political rhetoric is a cubbyhole for dullards. The political is merely the personal in a cheap, quivering act of sublimation. You oppose power, which is like protesting the sun-scream all you want, but it'll still scorch you. As you cry about global warming, global corporations, and global revolution, I stare into the vacant globes of your eyes. The only anarchy going on is the mutinous misfiring of your brain cells. The 'A' stands for "asshole."

You whine about your "sexuality," how your body is a political combat zone. You're a simple rodent with boring bodily functions which you seek to ennoble. With your flagrant vanity and dishonesty in personal interactions, you reveal yourself to be equally as rotten as the leaders you despise. You invariably wind up imitating the oppressor. Unfortunately, you weren't oppressed to begin with.

For not only are you a liar, you're a hypocrite. You're fascinated by violence until you're confronted with it. You romanticize trauma but have never been traumatized. You demand grant money from a government you seek to destroy. You idolize primitive cultures but would slash your wrists if your CD player broke. You condemn religion but consider yourself enlightened. You're as self-righteous as the moralists upon which you spit. You hate hatred, won't tolerate intolerance, and conspire with others against conformity.

modern punk is anti drumpf and "fuck nazis" so yeah, its controlled op if I ever seen it considering its become the exact OPPOSITE of what punk is supposed to be

Punk Rock is controlled OP, and I was wondering when Jow Forums would start publicizing this.
Carry on, old Boomer going back to his Monster and Saturday part-time job.

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>muh california places that no one else cares about
Why do musicians do this about california and jew york as though it’s some how cool? Fuck california.

>They used to be anti-establiahment when the right had control.
Lmao wtf are you even talking about? The right has control of the House, the Senate, the president, and soon to be SCOTUS. They literally couldn’t be any more in control.

All your cohorts are hypocrites, too. Feminists don't degrade, objectify, and stereotype men? Socialists aren't elitists? Environmentalists don't drive cars? A pox upon all your houses. I'd wish for a rat to bite your ass and give you the Black Plague, but you'd probably consider it a fashion statement.

While you slurp the dick of political correctness, your amber asshole is being torn asunder by aesthetic correctness. You flush your self-respect down the toilet while scrambling to obey the edicts of boho taste. You're frightened senseless that others will think you're uncool. You'd rather swallow whale sperm than admit you like disco, Chicken McNuggets, or Love Connection. You're frozen with fear that someone will realize what little you have to say. You squirm in the face of your own dullness. You are a prisoner of the underground, a hostage of your own creative retardation. Ideas emerge from your head stillborn.

Your rebelliousness is laid out for you like the portions of a TV dinner. You ape the powers that be with every clove-scented breath you take. You are nothing more than socioeconomic ectoplasm, a target market, a file folder at Central Casting. You exist as a parasite, because without an Establishment for you to oppose, you'd shrivel into cellular waste. Try as you may to avoid being absorbed by the mainstream, you remain trapped under its microscope, an amoeba with a nose ring.

This isn't an apologia for the mainstream, not by any stretch. Those who seek to defend it might as well believe in the Easter Bunny, too. The mainstream's models of reality are chunky and obsolete, just like yours. To attack it is too easy, like stealing crutches from a cripple. I'll leave those tactics to cowards such as you.

True psychos stand alone. The only pioneers are those who give voice to the ugliest corridors of their unconscious without fear of censure from any quarter. The acts that ordinary people commit behind closed doors are beyond the ken of any performance artist. Humans' innate weirdness is far more threatening and entertaining than anything the professional shock mavens could conjure.

I boggle your conception of a world split between cognoscenti and squares. I subvert the subversives and bury the underground under six feet of its own hypocritical manure. I perform unsolicited tattooing, body-piercing, and ritual scarification upon you.

Give vent to your sickest fantasies, but don't call it art. Cornhole Barbara Bush, but only if you want to. Sketch your astrological chart with your own feces, but only if it feels good. If you want to do something truly radical, kill yourself. We'll have one less reader, but the world will be a better place.

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Left still controls the media and academia. And let's be honest: republican party is on average not much better than democrats.

I was never into that music but my buddies were, and I specifically remember this song from all the shit they blasted in the car and at home....but what you described...yeah...FUCKING CLASSIC KIKE DEGEN.

But this begs the question of ART. I always wondered what is art. It's probably because my father, although a boomer, somehow redpilled me from year 0. I always had this indescribable disdain for modern art and money around it...but I do admit, I had phases in my life where I FORCED myself to look at modern art, go around galleries, fuck I even watched a video about "what is art". I specifically remember some BALD ROUND GLASSES FAT KIKE called Leo Stein or something talking about what is art and why is a painting worth trillion bucks. I almost fell for it but my innate skepticism pushed me from it.

LMAO for fuck sake...thank god i snapped out of it.

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Nofx too. They were all kike influencers...

>jimgoad.net/goadabode/issue 2/undergnd.html

God damn that nigga's so fuckin based. Does he have a podcast or some shit?

What a world we live in, those degenerate faggot jewmerican mutts, those guinea pigs of the kikes, the failed experiment of a nation, they worship fuckin bald Rogan....and bald Goad is ostracized and persona non grata. Fuckin lol.

Fact: You haven't truly grown up until you've discarded Punk.

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quality post and thank for bringing it off the purposefully edgy and offensive background.

no, you didnt grow up listening to punk
you grew up listening to bullshit lies,
you grew up listening to a fashion style being projected as very shitty music, which is beyond pathetic and grounds for being shot immediately

shoot yourself

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Fear>nofx

I never once got pussy from punk rock. So I stopped listening to it at 15.. it seemed immature. Then I got into nigger music. That too never yeilded pussy. I only got pussy from skateboarding.

If you are a scenster past high school you are fucked.

OI OI OI!

PUNKS NOT DAD!

OI!

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I've been meaning to write a history of the punk scene I grew up around and still inhabit sometimes. Basically what it was like watching it get taken over by cultural Marxism. Turmed into what it is today. Boring & conformist. People who are deathly afraid of stepping out of line. When I first got into it (around 13, late 80's) it was all about being the best individual version of yourself, now if you step out of line, you are ostracized, or you shut up and get back into line. It's a cult now, basically....

Yeah, that's been my experience too.

Agreed

>The Redneck Manifesto: How Hillbillies Hicks and White Trash Became America's Scapegoats was published in 1997.

Sometimes you have to akshually read. But the boy does have a podcast or something.

Im 33 and still love listening to punk rock, really the main music I listen to. I dont dress the part and I dont agree with 99% of the singers. That being said, punk has always been against right wing politics in the past because it was always the "corporate side" of politics and democrats were muh feels. But now? They look completely stupid for being so against trump because some of his words hurt their feelings. My favorite band of all time Descendents put out a statement about being against trump and blah blah blah, it sucks but its expected of them. I did however go to a 3 day punk festival in June, you would be surprised by the amount of people I talked to who do think the shit these singers are preaching is bullshit. The older punkers tend to be more right wing these days whereas the young ones are all antifa fags. Oh and Jello from the dead kennedys preached like a fucking faggot the first night and most of the crowd was yelling for him to shut the fuck up and just sing holiday in cambodia already.

It's just another display of American Degeneracy. I use "american" allegorically, it actually means "jewish" since America is basically Israel's testing ground for human experiments where the fat bags or lard guinea pigs roam...

It's arrested development. It's the Peter Pan syndrome. It's "forever young" syndrome. High school forever.

The idea of "coming of age" is completely gone in Jewmerica. There's no financial incentive for the jewish overlords to allow for jewmerican mutts to come off age. Why would they? Why would they sell Batman shirts to 9-15 boys audience when they can sell it to 7-77 unisex?

Capitalism is degeneracy.
America is capitalism.
Trump is a kike.
The only thing you can do is post a pic of an aircraft carrier or enlist to go die for Israel. That's all your life is worth, being an american vermin scum.

Circumcised as well.

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That just shows us all how little it really means.

OG shitlord

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Only people who have no culture and folk of their own get sucked into some music genre culture bullshit and wear the style of it and hang around with others into it. Punks, goths, heavy metal and such is all cringe.

>The right has control of the House, the Senate, the president, and soon to be SCOTUS. They literally couldn’t be any more in control.

A prime example of a well groomed well trained and well fed (on corn syrup diet, of course) El Goblino Americano.

> muh Right!
> muh Senate!
> muh Judge Sessions

You fucking dumb FAGGOT.

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>America is capitalism.
>Trump is a kike.
>The only thing you can do is post a pic of an aircraft carrier or enlist to go die for Israel. That's all your life is worth, being an american vermin scum.
You're either shill or you're one of the tiresome Rightist faggots that won't accept alliance or degrees.
>Trump is not perfect so fuck him
>America is not perfect and started degeneracy so fuck it
Winter's coming to your shithole backwater, faggot, and you better start forming allies and stop D&C this multi-national Nationalist movement, IF you aren't a cum-gobbling shill.
Straighten up, motherfucker.

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D&C faggot, die.

Of course it was. Rock music has always been used by them to push drug use sexual liberation nihilism etc. the funny thing is that the parents of the 70’s and 80’s were in some way correct about the satanic panic. They music wasn’t literally satanic, but was being used to put evil idea into the minds of impressionable children.

WHAT ABOUT BASED PAGAN METAL, AS AN ANTIDOTE TO LE KYKE ON A STIKK?

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Rape rock > punk rock
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Propagandhi are pretty fucking badass, even if they diversity hired their new guitarist.

Hahahaha! Yeah, sounds about right... Same boat here...

Is that why theyre not on Fat Wreck Cords anymore? Fat Mike is a cool guy as long as you dont bring up anything political with him, have had some beers with him a few times at shows. He can also be a massive faggot you want nothing to do with too.

His brother did, they made him go crazy by lacing his donuts with LSD when he was still a typical rock guy. He lost it then, they openly admit it too if you look at the interviews.

punk and hardcore are for the most part full of leftist shit. Growing up (i'm 42), I was really into the hardcore scene in NY. As I got older and started paying attention to everything around me, I realized the lyrics are nothing but "it's not fair and gibs me dat" tir shit. Now, most older hardcore band members are making go fund me pages for medical bills. Like Jimmy G from Murphy's Law.

Punk and hardcore are communist and socialist whiney faggots.

Mentors were awesome. These are one of the few non faggot bands to come out of the punk and hardcore scene.

All metal is shite. I don't know how anyone can listen to such shit music.

>Jimmy G from Murphy's Law.

>James Drescher (born August 12, 1965), better known as Jimmy G or Jimmy Gestapo and also known as Jimmy Spliff, is the lead singer for New York based hardcore punk band Murphy's Law.[1]

Do I have this correct? The guy is a Jew and goes by the name Jimmy Gestapo?

Why do people even listen to that shit at all. Fuckin edgelord faggotry of the highest order.