Would you support a USE (United States of Europe) in a perfect world where the non-European population remains low?

as long as each country can still have its culture and we treat different ''regions'' of europe by different, then there is no problem whatsoever. uniting brings strength. we've always been united throughout history and we were the kings of the world. let's go back there

These threads about a more united europe are always full of these comments from burgerland. It's like they dont want it for some reason. Fucking kikes.

Just an amerimutt giving my opinion but, Europe can't unite like that with this level of bickering, (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) Europe will not unite there is so much resentment among different European groups it will virtually impossible

No

>in a perfect world
Then why ruin it?
Decentralize

No

Europe will need to politically unite somehow, or risk sliding further into global irrelevancy

No. Fuck off.
No. Fufk o
No. Fuck off, we're not welfaring your shithole.
No. Fuck off.

>more memeflag
Because we know yuropoors don't want to associate with us, and for the most part we don't want to associate with Europe either. So we don't really consider anything that we should support, because we probably won't be in it. Also, wasn't saying he doesn't want it, he just said it probably won't happen

who cares

Not in million years.

who cares

why do you care ameribro?

No because it would be inspired to the centralist model of france.
it is already

You are part of russia anyway your opinion doesnt count.

>Europe will need to politically unite somehow,
No. Fuck off.
>or risk sliding further into global irrelevancy
Only insecure manlets could give a shit about global relevance. Fuck off and leave us alone.

>You are part of russia
The million russians we buried in Karelia thought that too.

Have nothing in common with most of the people there. Cancer.

Yes, BUT they must allow each state to develop economic policies of their own. No impositions, except basics of democracy and capitalism.

Every attempt at something similar has failed. We'd just be the US on steroids but even more smug and divided, while providing a false illusion of unity. There would be disagreements and lack of equality, likely higher corruption. The only way this might be able to work is if you split it into multiple unions (Nordic, Baltic, Mediterranean, Central, Western). The Balkans can get by with a EU type organization instead.

No, I would rather drench the entire continent in war before having it turned into a continentwide nation.

>yuroop neats to unite
>fuk of finn you ar a russia so opinion no count

Not cool to kill your family.

I would. Also, I fixed your Bavaria. At least you got the independent Franconia right.

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Oh no we can't sell out our values and customs anymore for (((global relevancy))), we must do something!

>finns and russians being family
lol, you're gonna start a big fight nigger

This is very true. Every single thread about EU unification is full of mutts pulling this exact argument without understanding anything about Europe and while fully ignoring the fact that all those "different cultures" are already united and no one actually cares

It's almost like they're afraid of a united Europe

No, fuck off.

are you even paying attention to this thread, are you new on Jow Forums or something?

>UK divided up into Anglo-Saxon kingdoms for no reason

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>Lapland

What the shit is this. Just get the fuck out with this

It would be a mistake. Look how many times US states have regretted getting roped into one country. Or how many times theyve realized that people are just too different to agree on interests. IE: whats good for New York probably isnt good for Kansas.
And thats all just economical, imagine how Europeans would feel with ethnic and economical strain. Youd just want to secede.

Youll regret giving up your nation just for global power, as that power will just fall into the hands of Jews anyway.

There's no need for unification. Good diplomacy and a few treaties is enough to guarantee peace and prosperity

Trade guarantees peace.

this

It's called European Union. Stop parroting americans you brainwashed retard

The funniest part is when they use the fact that we speak different languages as a problem. Man just see Jow Forums and you'll see that's the last problem we would have.

Nope just warning you, but we know youre retarded and will repeat our mistakes anyway. Then it will be our fault that you did, Europeans are seriously the stupidest people in the modern era. They have so many examples of what not to do but they insist on doing it then cry when they get the same result.

no, we are norwegians and we should have a state that represents us in particular.

You're right, I completely forgot about pakistan.

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Which language would you speak?

no,i would be a rebel in this kind of globalist shithole

On paper the concept of the EU isn't all that bad, white men allying with white men to work towards a better world for white men. Civilized and United. Who could stop us except other white men if we did?

It's a beautiful thought, really. Sadly the reality looks different with all the cucked lefties and brown invasion.

>A USE would help prevent more of that.
The only way that would work is by erasing every unique national culture in favor of an artificially created european monoculture. And most people don't actually want that.

It wouldn't work. Europe doesn't have the camaraderie that the United States has. The only division major we have is between red states and blue states. Beyond that we're all completely unified. You guys have so much shit separating you that you can't all even agree on a common currency. There's like ten other currencies in use besides the Euro. And that's on top of the all the different languages. If you drive an hour in any one direction there's no guarantee you can even speak to the people in the area you end up.

Not every european country is part of the EU though.
Also, the current EU isn't the same as the USE would be - we'd more or less be the same country.

Schengen agreement does the job. Just need to close the outside borders

local language + lingua franca (English most likely) like right now too...

>On paper the concept of the EU isn't all that bad, white men allying with white men to work towards a better world for white men

My fucking skin colour isn't a qualifier for you to be the same with me. Anglo, Spaniard, latino, greek....All the same category as niggers to me.

Schengen should be terminated.

Another thing is for the most part the states are culturally the same, Europe is full of hundreds of different cultures.

No. Fuck off.

no

the more voters that are imported and made dependent on certain parties, the greater success this has

>Schengen should be terminated.
Good lord. Step outside of your basement for once.
I can see why you wouldn't want a USE or the EU, but what kind of possible objections would you have against the Schengen?

holy shit retard, our races legendary success in every single field of human endeavour was born from that fierce competition

Easy trade and travel is a good thing if it's limited to native Europeans

You can be part of the united states of europe and practicing your local culture. Where is the fucking problem?

The same as United States prevent civil war, right?

We're not in the colonial period anymore. We do not seek to expand beyond our own borders.

Not really. Some form of close cooperation and united front could be great but too much unification could destroy what makes Europe great.

Allows free-movement of massive amounts of Refugees that are currently flooding into Europe and blurs the line between national borders.

Any nation state is going to attempt to eradicate or water down "local culture" to secure its future and its continued existence

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lol tell that to the British who seem to hate Poles but love Pakis (something I'll never understand)

Today is more convenient to expand with trade and sucking other nation resources. Germany at the monet is doing pretty well.

If you lump in a bunch of cultures in one nation, and hope that will make them get along you are mistaken. My country is the United States and most Americans are incredibly patriotic and would never allow this to happen because this would surely mean that Europeans with little understanding of the US's culture may come in. I have no problem with Europeans immigrating to the US but in one nation it would be open borders for Europeans to come here without learning about what is polite or not and shit like that. Same the other way around, i'm sure Europeans don't want Americans going over there knowing virtually nothing about European customs.

>Allows free-movement of massive amounts of Refugees that are currently flooding into Europe and blurs the line between national borders.
You missed my
>in a perfect world with a minimal amount of non-Europeans.

1. why not
2. the world is still in competition for other things

The problem is land boarders with all kinds of woggery. No thanks. Jewnited wog states of europistan. Thought of it makes me physically ill.

>Checkmate kid, in this completely non-existant hypothetical alternate reality my idea works.
400 IQ here lads

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Allows incredible abuse of tax avoidance, money laundering, free travel of criminals between countries, and in general the gains from not having to wait in a passport line is less than the hurt of having thousands of polish criminals migrate here during the summer

The thread literally started based on a hypothetical idea, brainlet.
Learn to read.

>nd travel is a good thing if it's limited to native Europeans

No it isn't. Former communist countries have huge amounts of criminals who come to the Nordic countries, do gigs, and go back to never be seen again, because their own authorities are corrupt and useless.

It still could erase local cultures. In US you don't have much of Maine or Califorian culture the same way you would if not of the fact they are unified into single country. European culture could undermine local cultures. Economic and military cooperation with respect
to each others boarders and independence could be great ( as in dealing with our stuff on our own, don't bring outsiders into it) but Europe should stay, ironicaly enough, diverse in its cultures.

Doesn't matter. A Frenchman doesn't have any more right to come to my country than a sub-saharan black.

Even in your hypothetical alternate reality it still blurs the lines between borders and allows people from shithole euro countries to flee into cross into your nation.

There should be restrictions and more control of course. That would be possible with a Schengen like treaty that leaves countries independent, but not if everyone is subject to the EU's will like now

>Economic and military cooperation

Of course you'd say that as you are not the one paying for that shit. How about you take care of your own fucking economy instead of leeching off others?

Also this. I'm not gonna lie, we really didn't send our best to you. Even our crime rate fell once you opened borders.

Freedom of travel should fucking die.

I've traveled outside Schengen and it has literally never been a problem. bilateral deals>Schengen.

You know there is already free movment in europe right? My city is full of italians french etc and there is no fucking problem about it. You see this issue from an american perspective not from a european one.

>A Frenchman doesn't have any more right to come to my country than a sub-saharan black.
If this is your opinion I have nothing more to say to you.
Fair enough. I have a hard time calling any European country a shithole even though it may be true.

>My city is full of italians french etc and there is no fucking problem about i

Oh look at the anecdotal evidence!
My city is full of polish lowlives.

>My city is full of italians french etc
Reveal your fucking memeflag, what country are you from?

Eventually you'd get so many bilateral deals that it would be the same as Schengen

Cooperation as in having separate markets for Europe and the rest of the world and shit like that. Not as in putting money into one pot and then redistributing it. And military cooperation is a pretty good idea as well. We all know how scared of Russia is Finland. Wouldn't Europe as a whole being ready to defend its eastern boarder make you a little bit safer than doing it on your own?

(((global relevancy)))
Also reminder that America, actual America, is not globally relevant either. Our cultural export is just a bunch of rootless queers in a few cities, to look at "American" media you'd think there were four cities in the country
>LA
>New York
>San Francisco
>DC

>My city is full of polish lowlives.
Well, all I can say is thank you becouse mine is a little bit less lately.

>If this is your opinion I have nothing more to say to you.
What gives you the right to come and live in my country over some sub-saharan? Why should I not care about my culture being replaced if it's by a European? I don't give a fuck if it's a Serbian or a Somalian, you can fuck off.

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The point being that one country has the ability to back away from any one those deals individually at any moment without it having effect on other deals

>My fucking skin colour isn't a qualifier for you to be the same with me
Yeah it was a mistake to let you in and an ideal EU would be definitely without your country.