is like America not annexing Canada. Venus is Earth’s sister planet and just because it has a bit of a thicc atmosphere, doesn’t mean it isn’t perfectly able to be terraformed with a little sunshade and some other effort.
Governments not gearing up to terraforming Venus
Robert Rodriguez
Camden Anderson
the atmosphere is a strong mixture of acids that we use industrial on Earth to dissolve glass.
Juan Hernandez
How long does it take to get to Venus?
Nathaniel Rogers
You're fucking retarded. Terraforming Mars would be incredibly difficult, and take generations. Venus would be even worse.
Jackson Harris
Juan Green
Depends on how fast you are going
Carter Young
How fast is it possible to go, with current technology?
How fast is it possible for the human body to travel?
Christian Carter
It has a surface pressure of 99 atmospheres, there is no terraforming Venus.
Tyler Peterson
Most is CO2 and CO, dude. The “acids” are the least of the problems.
Hudson Fisher
With current chemical rocket Hohmann paths, 4-5 months.
With nuclear electric propulsion, 1-2 weeks.
Christopher Price
>Terraforming Mars would be incredibly difficult, and take generations
No and yes
Tyler Hughes
How fast is it possible to go, with current technology?
about 20 percent the speed of light using a nuclear pulse engine.
>How fast is it possible for the human body to travel?
depends on how fast you accelerate, any G force higher than 1.5 will strain you're passengers bodies and give them heart attacks.
Kayden Morgan
What is a sunshade? What is raining out CO2 to a 3 bar mostly nitrogen atmosphere?
Jonathan Brooks
Like ten minutes by foot mate
Luis Martin
Are there even any resources on Venus? Oils/gasses?
Nathaniel Long
the planets in the sky are projected cartoons in a floating light orb that lasts tens of thousands of years and aren't real
Elijah Rivera
There is land, which is the greatest resource of them all. And various rare Earths just like on... Earth.
Ayden Ortiz
The planet has sulfuric acid storms. Ever been burned by sulfuric acid? It eats away everything it comes into contact with,plastic, rubber, nitrile, stainless steel. It will eventually devour everything.
Josiah Brooks
>generations
>long time
Cameron Baker
boring. Planets devoid of life should be cracked open and mined for resources not terraformed. Terraformation should be left as an option for already habital worlds with forest/jungles etc
Liam King
Mars and Venus will never be colonized they will be inhabited entirely by robots
Grayson Brooks
>Hotter planet
>Toxic atmosphere
>Closer to the sun
>Literally nothing of value on the surface
It would be a massive waste of money to even attempt to try and salvage the planet you fucking retard.
Robert Wright
>oils
>on any planet other than earth
Oh Annon
Caleb Reed
Maybe there's corpses of dead ancient behemoths on Mars ripe for the pickings in the form of oil
Jackson Baker
Ever wonder how many ayys get fucked because their planet has insufficient fossil fuels for industrialization?
Tyler Fisher
S P A C E
F
O
R
C
E
Adam Lopez
Ethan Martin
Easiest "new frontier" to conquer is the bottom of any ocean. Plenty of room down there, very stable conditions, unlimited power due to pressure differences (water rushes from high pressure to low pressure and you just add a turbine in the middle, pump water out, repeat). As exiting as living on another planet = boring as fuck in a closed facility.
Carson Foster
Yea but they adapt.
Owen Gray
Don't worry, soon we'll be part of the club
Michael Mitchell
No its litterally impossible until were a type one or two civilization and at that point it would be for shots and giggles. Go farm more niggers for your wife to fuck faggot.
Grayson Lewis
>can’t fix muh global warming
>let’s cool down Venus
>we’ll have to strip the earth of a lot of resources and heat it up more.
>But, it’s venus guys!
Kayden Cox
>It would be a massive waste of money t
Oh no, creating a second Earth right next to our used up planet would be a “waste of perfectly good imaginary ledger bits”!!
Luke Cruz
Truly
>the Star Wars generation
Please tell us you don’t buy that?
Tyler Martin
best they could do would be steam power from biomass. Without fossil fuels, most of them will be pre-occupied with agriculture and will never reach the population density needed to maintain modern infrastructure
very possible, only fusion can keep this game going
Julian Williams
Why would you think we cannot stop global warming on Earth???
Ian Richardson
>imaginary
You’ve never worked, have you?
Colton Rivera
I'm sorry, so you're saying it would take 1-2 weeks for a manned space flight to Venus?
So how long would it take a human to reach Venus Mr. Spock?
Benjamin Allen
>I'm sorry, so you're saying it would take 1-2 weeks for a manned space flight to Venus?
Yes
Christopher Gray
Just take a left past the bridge, continue straight and you should see it coming up on your left hand side.
Hudson Hernandez
You're fucking insane. Kill yourself. xDD
Samuel Peterson
> Tums
Wouldn't adding a base neutralize the acid?
Jose Hall
about 3 months
Julian Lewis
You're fucking insane. Kill yourself.
Jacob Miller
Chase Anderson
lol no, whats you're take then?
Adrian Baker
Can we?
Asher Baker
Are you the German that wants to crash titan or some other moon into mars?
Bentley White
Insane how? It’s not like a secret how electric propulsion works. Look it up.
Matthew Allen
There's still no evidence that oil comes from the corpses of ancient animals goy.
Austin Gomez
also, do you even realize how insanely difficult it would be to reach Venus by foot? You would die from old age before even getting close
Zachary Hughes
Yeah, of course we can. But nobody wants to, really nobody wants to.
Nicholas Sullivan
No, I don’t think so.
Jace Anderson
Terraforming is far beyond our capabilities.
Juan Sanchez
>electric propulsion works.
You might need to rephrase that
Austin Nguyen
It is just beyond our willingness to do.
Levi Hughes
>There's still no evidence that oil comes from the corpses
There’s plenty of evidence that supports it being biomass though, user.
That’d probably include the corpses of ancient animals.
Jeremiah Scott
Ok... I believe you
Wyatt Bennett
>ethane and methane = oil
- American education
James Perry
In the sense that the energy requirements are magnitudes ahead of what we currently produce. We should just focus on building orbital habitats around earth and the moon. That's our first step
Noah Carter
You cant terraform Venus.
Its too close to the sun.
Ayden Lee
>In the sense that the energy requirements are magnitudes ahead of what we currently produce.
How much do you think the production of a thin film m2 of solar sail costs in terms of energy?
Joshua Diaz
I've made a mistake. I'm running away now.
Jaxon Murphy
So? Have you ever been on a beach? Ever used a sun shade?
Brandon Adams
>ethane and methane = oil
>- American education
>also, I’m a dummy, who doesn’t understand natural refining processes.
Ryder Carter
The gravity alone would kill you. This idea is terrible.
Brody Jones
Surface temperature is 460c, 4,6x the temperature it takes to boil water.
Jackson Hughes
The gravity shich is 91% of what it is on Earth? How would that kill me?
Aiden Gray
I think he was referring to atmospheric pressure. It would be like breathing water
Justin Price
What does that have to do with terraforming venus?
Nicholas Williams
sun shade
Anthony Lee
Again, what is a sun shade? Obviously you need to cool the atmosphere and let the CO2 rain down. Once you put Venus in the shade, it will radiate heat 24hr a day and lose temperature rapidly down to 30C when most of the CO2 rains out until the pressure gets down to about 20 bar... then the temperature falls further and more CO2 can rain out and eventually freeze on the surface in the oceans.
Isaiah Harris
There's poison gas clouds on Venus you tard.
Parker Jones
What’s a sunshade?
Nicholas Peterson
So?
Matthew Richardson
Venus also doesn't have a magnetic field, any un-shielded life would die
Oliver Hernandez
How do you propose to create sun shade the size of planet earth?
Once you create it and place it how do you place it? If its removed the temperature would rise again.
Dylan Brown
>manufacturing a sheet of thin material so large as to shade a planet with the desire this will transform the planet into earth like conditions.
Absurd. I'd need a week to list everything wrong with that idea.
Liam Taylor
No please explain how "natural refining" converts gas into oil.
Justin Scott
Why? It's a real propulsion system. He's talking about nuclear powered ion drives you ignoramus.
For that matter, reactionless drives are a real thing too.
David Long
its possible, but the planet rotates so slowly that one side would still get cooked.
Owen Morris
What would the specs on such a planetary parasol be?
Nathan Turner
the pressure on the surface of venus is like being 1 mile underwater on earth. even if the atmosphere wasnt toxic a person would be crushed instantly. Venus also takes about 180 days to rotate once on axis. because sections of the planet are in the sun so long the surface gets up to over 500 degrees making the planets surface hotter than mercury.
Venus is hell and will never be of any use to humanity. by the time we had the tech to terraform the planet ftl tech will be Childs play to us
Aiden Wright
The human raise isn't going to be terraforming jack shit any time soon, it's not even worth thinking about. If anything we will be living in highly terrifying space bubbles on the moon and mars, and possibly Titan. And I doubt much will happen there it will sort of be like the bases we have in Antarctica. Some scientists doing tests.
Landon Peterson
Sulfuric acid, yes. Perfect to convert it to water.
Austin Morris
>south american intellectual struggles to understand how shadows work
John Diaz
human raise = human race. I'm not retarded, that was autocorrect.
Jonathan Roberts
just connect a vacuum from venus' atmostphere to mars' lmao
Jack Martinez
You don’t need a magnetic field, a 1bar atmosphere nitrogen / oxygen is enough to shield you, as ozone is building up in the upper atmosphere.
The only thing no magnetic field does is blow away your atmosphere over millions of years.
Lucas Watson
Even if I suspend my disbelief around the enormous feat of engineering shading a planet would be, let's say its pulled off, what makes you think simply cooling venus will make it earth like?
Jace Clark
On the other hand, the high density atmosphere means that oxygen and nitrogen are both lifting gases, and pressures and temperatures at 55-60km's, just above the sulfuric acid cloud layer, are earth-normal. Furthermore, the gravity is 91% of earth's, and the upper atmosphere jet stream rotates around the planet in about 24 hours.
So what I'm saying is that we should just terraform venus' upper atmosphere and build bespin cloud cities held aloft by the power of bouyancy, which works for sailing vessels here on earth.
Michael Wilson
good points
James Ortiz
Isaac James
it just makes it so you don't die immediately after landing on the surface.
Nolan Perry
Venus is a pipe dream we should start with the moon
Lincoln Clark
>are a real thing
Theoretical drives aren’t real..
Not one has been made and test to functional capacity.
>ignoramus
I’m talking to Trekkies, ffs
Thomas Sanchez
>How do you propose to create sun shade the size of planet earth?
It must actually be larger than Venus to shade it completely. You build it, then but it on L1. A m2 weighs like 5-8grams, so for 1 km2 we are talking several tons.
>Once you create it and place it how do you place it? If its removed the temperature would rise again.
A solar shade can use the sun’s pressure to fly to L1 from LEO. At L1 it needs to be held in place by a counter mirror slightly before L2 which puts a counter pressure on the L1 sun shade. As the sun mirror before L2 is not in perfect balance (it constantly is drawn towards the sun), the force pushed on it from reflecting sunlight to hold the L1 shade in place holds the L2 mirror in place.
Wyatt Long
It would be large.
Aiden Bell
You can live in the upper atmosphere there right now, it's only like 70*f
Cloud cities when
Ryan Jones
Go Germany!
Conquer your new lebensraum in the Solar System. History will praise you for being colonizing whole planets instead of some subhuman countries.
While your new home cools down, enjoy BBC in the shade.