Simply put, it is a white supremacist conspiracy theory, long preached on dark corners of the internet by racists like all of you. Orange 45 has attempted to take the heat off himself by tweeting about a common talking point of nazis and white supremacists. There is absolutely 0 evidence of actual genocide being perpetrated in South Africa. The conspiracy of "white genocide" has been the pet of the nazis and alt-right for years and the fact that Trump fell into it just proves how racist he really is. Trump is actually trying to base our foreign policy off of nazi conspiracy theories.
I am not saying land reform is made up. It isn't. It's a serious issue but nazis have taken this issue and twisted it into something it isn't, it's been magnified beyond all objective fact and turned into an untrue narrative of slaughter. 90% of the land is owned by whites because of Apartheid. Land reform is attempting to fix this problem. Whites still own 3/4 of the land so now the government can seize land instead of trying to beg the farmers to let them buy their land off them. This is just an economic misstep to anyone with half a brain, not full-scale genocide.
Now, how did this conspiracy theory start? A far right South African lobbying group called AfriForum. Their current goal is convincing the world that white genocide in South Africa is real. The leader also travels the world to tell this lie to world leaders. This conspiracy they push is only bought into by morons because it's all lies. Nearly all of their "survivor" stories have been debunked.
White farmers have been killed but it's usually not for being white but because criminals view them as being rich and isolated because they're on farms. Violence against whites is also rapidly declining in South Africa. Since 2000, violent crime against farmers has fallen to half of what it was. If we go back to the late 90s, it shows that there were 150 farmers killed a year. Now it's only 50. Whites are also LEAST affected by violent crime in South Africa.
Their farms are safer than anywhere else in the country. No one is being genocided. Face the music. Your idiotic president told his secretary of state to research a white nationalist conspiracy theory for him. You people are actually falling into the lies of people who call themselves "white nationalists" who have made up a racist conspiracy theory so they can play the victim card.
Africa Card, a fact checking group, has also torn this conspiracy to shreds. Besides all of what I've said, they've also noticed how when you look into farm murders, the statistics includes tons of black farmers and farmhands being killed as well. 40% of the victims are nonwhite. Even if all of them were white, 72 murders a day isn't genocide, especially when 50 people are killed there each day. Violence against farmers has hit it's newest low this year and you expect us to think there's genocide going on?
White South Africans are 9% of the population and only 1.8% of murder victims, making them under represented. Studies show that robbery was the motive for nearly every farm killing. None of this fits the definition of genocide. Wake up. This isn't proof that "white genocide" is under way. The only person in the South African government who has spoke against whites is Khumalo. He's being tried in South African court for his violent words against whites.
I don't believe that guns should be banned you retard. You've failed to address my argument and proof that your little conspiracy is bullshit.
David Rogers
Lol this kike is a liar. He saw it from the kikes at Fox
Chase Flores
I don't see you posting any proof either, just a bunch of horseshit from social media
Levi Moore
Did you not read what I wrote? You can look it up, it's all true and backed by actual sources and not racist South Africans making things up.
Christian Jones
Do you care to explain away the 20,000 murders every year then, a large portion of which are blacks killing whites outside the farms? Bear in mind these homicide numbers are likely a low estimate as incompetent blacks cannot run or administer a country let alone solve murders. Blacks are killing whites in general at an alarming rate, and you know it faggot.
Brandon Robinson
War will come and you'll be slaughtered like an animal.
Jacob Allen
As I already said, whites are 1.8% of South African murder victims and 9% of the population, making them the least affected by violent crime.
Aaron Powell
ooooh I'm so scared! I love how Nazis show their true colors and resort to violence when they're proven wrong.
Cooper Jackson
t. Chinese robber baron
Michael Robinson
You have not seen violence yet gook, but you will.
It doesn't matter if it takes 10 our 64000 years for it to be called a genocide It doesn't matter if the are only 1.8% of the murder victims in a country to be called a genocide It doesn't matter if the trend goes up or down for it to be called a genocide It doesn't matter if the victims are stupid enough to hire their killers etc
Use a proper definition of genocide and apply it to the current situation. But you're not doing that, so you are offering distraction and not honesty.
>Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part.
Anthony Baker
Read the first two
Henry Roberts
>I don't believe that guns should be banned you retard. t. every gun banning Leftist ever
Angel Long
I'm white you retard
Angel Martinez
For your little theory to be true, there would have to be a negative disparity between whites being killed in urban centers versus whites being killed on in rural areas of South Africa since naturally the more dense the population, the higher the crime rate and with less people living out in rural areas you should naturally have less of the same crime. In fact, there's a positive disparity white being killed in urban centers versus whites being killed in rural areas of SA. Meaning that, per capita, whites living in rural areas are being reported the victims of murder MORE than those in urban centers. This could only happen with a targeted campaign of violence specifically towards white farms because the same disparity and high numbers in rural areas does not exist for blacks.
Basically you typed a lot of words to basically say nothing and you think the rest of us are stupid and can't look up SA crime stats or something. Either way you can take your kike ass back to plebbit because you're a fucking goon.
John Sanders
Yeah they're 9% of the population and they're disproportionally targeted and attacked by blacks. The South African government suppresses this information and now that Trump is talking about it, just like when he talked about Muslim terror in Europe, the MSM just downplayed it like the governments complicit in it. White genocide is very real, and the steep rate of whites murdered by non-whites is just one portion of it. We pay out tons of taxes that are then used to incentivize the existence of non-whites at our expense. We are targeted through inflation and phycological conditioning to have less children, all the while immigration floods our countries with the enemy. White genocide is a real problem and when whites wake up people like you are going to have a very rude surprise coming.
Jordan Reyes
How long would it take for niggers to kill each other
Grayson Gomez
Your mom told me to tell you that your lunch is ready buddy. Hope you have a good freshman year!
Isaiah Smith
>Hello fellow white people!
Nicholas Wilson
Jews aren't white you retard, and even if you were white it's always best to kill a traitor before an enemy.
Kek. You still haven't figured out what happened to the last batch of trolls they sent here, have you.
John Brooks
Imagine making this argument after the Kristallnacht.
James Howard
lmao this jew is really trying hard so, how about we start reclaiming the ghetto from the blacks? it's not genocide after all, and anyways, that land will be used far more effectively if out of the hands of black urbanites
Blake Wright
>The government is only genociding them a little bit guys! It's OK! Pay it no mind!
Implying they aren't accelerating their efforts and growing more and more bold every day. Hey kid: We don't have to wait till they're all dead to help them.
Oliver Peterson
The only reason you've been shilling this is because Trump brought it to everyone's attention and now people are aware. Deep down you know it's happening,but you lost your sense of self preservation. In your mind, killing all white people is a good thing.
Blake Cook
I wasn't aware that Jow Forums was massacring trolls! A million apologies to you! Is a troll a person you politically disagree with?
Jaxson Gonzalez
So in your mind there is no bias against the white population by the black government and black population?
Dominic Gonzalez
There's nothing wrong with white people owning that much land. Most of it is obviously large swaths of farmland, not where people are living.
Liam Watson
shill harder, fag
Exhibit A: The 8 year long president of SA singing about shooting white people while crowds of people and soldiers dance and cheer. youtube.com/watch?v=cHLTKZ05zM4&t=7s
you did a good job today, go get your $1.50 from your employer now
You're wasting your own time and money then. Pretty dumb.
Isaiah Howard
"We are not calling for the death of white people...At least for now" The guy who said this is not a nobody, he's part of their fucking government. You are a fucking asshole.
Sage
Hunter Wilson
>I'm white too goy!
Evan Miller
>refugees from countries with low rape rates, fleeing war with ISIS: "someone stop these rapefugee invasion!" >refugees fleeing land reform, from a country with sky-high rape rates: "we need to let these people in!"
I never thought I'd see the day when Jow Forums went full #refugeeswelcome.
Joshua Mitchell
>you can look it up >proof >unsourced walls of text Disregarded Disregarded.
Brody Fisher
Jow Forums has always been full #whiteswelcome
The rape rate is a function of skin color
Colton Smith
I Just Want To Kill NIGGERS
Joshua Phillips
Also poltards were shouting the Syrians should stay back home and fight.
Not really, a simple alternative option is that people are targeting rich farms.
Angel Wood
Its not about genocide yet. Right now the issue is people being deprived of their property for no good reason. Be honest OP, did you make this thread just to trigger Jow Forums and get a handful of (you)s?
Jaxson Perez
In 1933 Hitler klled three Jews. Therefore the Holocaust is a fabrication because, at that rate, it would take two million years to kill off 6 million Jews.
Liam Campbell
>shills putting this much effort into sweeping genocide (as defined by the UN) under the rug And this gave me all the proof I needed to know that it's actually happening.
I forgot about that. I guess the South Africans should stay back and fight too then. pol has so many double standards it's embarrassing. Notice how they'll blame all Muslims but think you're crazy if you blame all gun owners and want gun control. Or how they react to white shooters vs nonwhite shooters
Ayden Miller
Yea, im okay witg killing all of them. Kill 6 gorrillion of them so it becomes an ok thing to do
Jace Hill
You're right. I'll go look into the repeatedly debunked and unverified claims of the racist Nazi political groups in South Africa.
Mason Wood
I like how pol's arguments are almost always ad hominems, calling the person a paid shill, calling them a Jew, or saying they aren't responding as much as you like so they're probably George Soros.
Brody Long
>the racist Nazi political groups in South Africa Name one.
Noah Hill
The one that pushes the conspiracy the hardest, Afriforum, is openly racist and the leader, who has met with fascists like Ted Cruz, have performed racist public stunts to get attention.
Andrew Taylor
>White, south African farmers are not being killed, because they're not being killed fast enough. >Guns need to be banned even though it would take an eternity to genocide the entire country via shootings.
Henry Diaz
I will fucking murder and rape your people. Your boys will be sex slaves. So will your daughters. Your sons will be farm animals and if not any of those, they will be violently killed and raped. So will your daughters and wives. Your people are just useless trash and just like your children and your children's children.
>I guess the South Africans should stay back and fight too then. We would infinitely prefer if they stayed and fought, red. Do you honestly think we want white land to fall into kaffir hands?
Cameron Perry
I love how the outrage over "white genocide" is being used to drown out the fact that the South African government is taking land away from their citizens BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR. This is the real injustice, why is nobody talking about it.
Andrew Smith
>who has met with fascists like Ted Cruz wew lad
Ryder Butler
GET IN HERE
GET IN HERE
Henry Wilson
genocide can be fast or slow. way trickier killing whites in cities. easier to kill white farmers due to remote locations. general rule : When you kill someone because of their skin color, also take their wallet. you would still be a killer, but at least not a racist. it would then just a basic run of the mill robbery gone bad. that is farm murder strategy.
Grayson James
"racist Nazi political groups in South Africa" "Name one." "Afriforum" "Not a political group holding any kind of office."
note how suddenly the "holding any kind of office" thing popped out of nowhere, stormfront argument game strong
It will be a glorious day after the white genocide that you deny awakes the sleeping giant. Your entire satanic tribe will be ejected from this planet, along with your dark pets. Mankind's true path to the stars will then be achievable.
You're sowing your own ruin, kike. Keep it up. We're just waiting. After the ghouls spill a few gallons of our blood, we will make the oceans red with yours and theirs.
Carter Murphy
You still didn't respond. You try to call me out for things I have not done. No where in this thread have I referred to you in a pejorative. You still didn't respond. I like to approach this as a blank slate, I was raised in the 80s and was very familiar with the ad campaigns for a free SA. You still didnt respond. The Cosby Show and the world wide boycott of shaped my ideas of this place as a borderline slave state. I didnt learn anything of the country and how it was. You had a chance to shape my mind and thus my actions. You still didnt respond. Good job forwarding your cause.
Matthew Young
Didn't read any of your shit OP, but the SA's already admitted theyre doing it & it's for "reparations" lol
Alexander Campbell
Matt wont be laughing when the government wants him to live outside his bordered neighborhood and give his house to the nice ugandans down the road
Jaxson Gomez
Hahaha "slow genocide." Okay well, I think you'll survive that genocide buddy.
Blake Hughes
These people act like killing innocent people is as outrageous for them as it is for southafricans when just a few years algo they were hunting other africans and killing them un mob attacks. If they do that to people that have never wronged them imagine what they would do to whuites that they percieve as deserving of every punnishment.
You also hace to remind yourself that whites are a minority and there is violent rethoric comming from people at they goverment.
Luke Bell
whenever you read a comment describing a fantasy about an epic race war where nazis emerge victorious and fulfill their dreams of mass murder, you should get a quick reality check to see how it would more likely play out in real life, see pic related:
Brandon Sanders
this, in Chile mapuches are trying to do the same thing, not only to kill whites but also to scare them too.
Asher Reyes
> can't look up SA crime stats
The stats aren't even reliable. One interesting thing unearthed on Lauren Southern's documentary was her interview with that crime scene cleanup company. That company's statistics based on the jobs they did showed a higher farm murder rate than the government's own official numbers, and that was one company that didn't have a monopoly on every farm killing that happened across the country. This problem is being significantly under-reported in the government statistics, as you would expect in a genocide.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AfriForum >The organisation's principal focus is inter alia on the following areas: civil, safety and security, community affairs, local government, environmental affairs, education as well as preserving the language, culture and heritage in South Africa
This is what leftists consider racist Nazism. Absolutely insane.
Eli Collins
Oh by the way.. >inb4 leftists brigade that wikipedia page and strip it of its neutral tone.
They also think we give a shit about the label racist/nazi, as if that somehow invalidates a groups position. Btu they usually dont even know what a fascist is, considering; >met with fascists like Ted Cruz Idiot shill is an idiot, not even getting paid kek.
Adam Moore
fuck you and your bullshit. sage
Adrian Wright
Within a few years we'll be witnessing indiscriminate butchering of farmers who refused to leave by the government in a full blown communist uprising. We may even be seeing a literal racewar in South Africa. This is going to be our holocaust, and you people will be dismissed as genocide deniers who enabled the resulting deaths by downplaying and dismissing the textbook signs of genocide just to further your political agenda.
William Ross
Nobody is saying theres a genocide taking place. There is, however, an amendment to the constitution which will take white owned land and hand it over to the government without due compensation.
What do you think will happen if the farmers tell them to fuck off? What do you think the governments course of action will be?
