Lol, the smartest guy in the alt-right just became a baste civic nationalist

Who is CV?

All his criticism of Richard Spencer were legitimate.

t. richard spencer

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Some mutt

youtube.com/watch?v=i7xKiMj8Q7w

JF is a retard

He hasn't made a video for a month. Fucking shitty slide threads. All fields.

alternative hypothesis

He didn't become a civic nationalist. He just realized that white nationalism is a meme (a conclusion reached by Vox Day and smart people a long while back) and that the alt-right is going to need to reorganize

This is actually true. His feeble attempt to defend France was a clear indication that he was missing a spine.

wtf thanks for that detailed argument

He did but it was deleted as he claimed (as he later admitted on flimsy evidence) that Dickers slept with one dude's girlfriend. It's on Bitchute.

He's a good vlogger, not so good debater. He should stick to making videos debunking alt-lite, cuckservative, and shitlib talking points. That's where he shines.

If true pretty depressing and disappointing desu, used to really respect him

he's basically saying you can achieve your aim through civic nationalism

So let's say you remove 5% of the nonwhite genes every decade. Over a century, your population is going to be a hell of a lot whiter than if you removed 1/2 the nonwhites through forced deportation today.

Furthermore, through civic nationalism you can also patch up the white genome, so you don't have all these shitty low class types

He's just realizing how thankless our job is. Our own people hate us for loving them. They want us to die for wanting them to live. That's how it is, and it can be really demoralizing. But it must be done. I will personally do all I can for my people, even if they'll hate and shun me for it. I hope others will too, but it's very understandable if they won't.

He's a fag. So he's mentally limited in that regard.

He is in favor of first world policies and for that you need first world genetics, he still want a majority white society. His ideia that everyone was open to a Pan-euroepan racial ideity was wrong from teh start.

No, he won against CV and JF acted smug and actually lost to it. JF does terrible at debates and is a brainlet. biologists are low IQ scientists.

You saying power top fags ripped his bottom bitch spine out? Or that he never had one to begin with?

He's stuff on Christianity is terrible and reflects how mediocre he is.

True but he's also gay. So he doesn't have much invested in the future of the white race that isn't short term.

Exactly

white nationalism is constantly getting biggers while Vox is becoming more and more irrelevant

Vox has a big-brained alternative?

You can be smart and not be good at live debates. It's more about how you present your ideias than intelligence.

Being a bitch is something intrinsic to faggots

Idk bro he kept interrupting her and she had solid points. It wasn't a clear victory. Btw is CV a transfreak?

so he unironically has Sargon views now?

Who did what now?

how the f is he smart? have you ever heard him talk?

>He is in favor of first world policies and for that you need first world genetics,
That's iq nationalism though, not white nationalism.

This right here. Makes it hard to care for your countrymen when you know most of them would support throwing you into prison for your beliefs

the things that make civic nationalism breakdown/not work are much more apparent than white nationalism

white nationalism is harder to attain but has less chance of degrading into our current state of affairs

civic nationalism is easier to attain but will 100% degrade into our current state of affairs

It's not an issue he focues in.

I guess you could say he is irrelevant but he shouldn't be. He is by far the brightest mind we have. I still have my doubts about him. Things like him supporting the openly gay Milo and Stefan Molyneux. Ironically the criticisms he levels against Peterson apply a lot more to Molyneux.

He's a mutt who stands firm for ethnonationalism which is commendable and realizes the role Christianity will play in the West reasserting itself against cultural Marxism.

Worth following. But I find his Darkstreams to be lacking in substance.

I refuse to entertain the concept of civic nationalism.

I am not saying he is dumb either. Yes video debates aren't the best way to ascertain the truth.

But his remarks on it have been incredibly ignorant. Which reflects a lack of intellectual humility.

>muh (((alt-right))) celebrities
kys

It doesn't make sense in the slightest. It's a perfect ideology for the pawns of the globalist elite.

The problem with your argument is that we are not gossiping about their personalities but rather ideas. So your point is mute.

He's just a whiny blackpilled faggot. His whole Republican vs Democrat thing should have been patently obvious to him from the getgo, that's the surface level fight. He's realizing that it takes more than facts to sway people, it takes heart and emotion too.

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He is obviously very bright but its weird, he is basically taking data that is available to everyone and making videos about what is completely obvious if you look at the data, so there is not a tremendous amount of insight presented, its just the current state of logic or rationale is so fucking insane, his very obvious conclusions appear smarter than they are.

Not ragging on him, it's just an observation, and he makes good videos explaining this stuff which is needed.

An actual "genius" or really, really high IQ personality in this field has not been found.

vox is a brainlet, just reading the titles of his books would make you realize this, he is an utter brainlet who doesn't have one original thought in his mind.
christianity is dead and anti-white, churches are one of the biggest people responsible for immigrations

He just said full blown WN is politically impossible, which is correct.

He said on stream that his PhD is in neuroscience

he cucked out. after a decade of busting ass to convert people to white nationalism and the past few years of white awareness spreading like wildfire, hes pussied out that hes actually gaining power and influence and there will actually be conflict that he will be responsible for. that people are looking to him for leadership. that people might die. that there might be consequences. surrender looks tempting when conflict seems close.

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Not necessarily, you can make different kinds of high IQ societies with different populations. He wants to select threats that made up western societies. Support for free speech private property, gun ownership are things you do not see much in east asian societies that also have high IQ.

that's biology.

not saying they weren't, he is a giant fag that's for sure

It's extremely useful to have primary sources to back a lot of those things up, especially over race.

> vox is a brainlet, just reading the titles of his books would make you realize this, he is an utter brainlet who doesn't have one original thought in his mind.
He's titles are targeted for the masses

> christianity is dead and anti-white, churches are one of the biggest people responsible for immigrations
Wrong. The first thing you would know if you read anything by him is that Churchianity and Christianity are not the same thing.

>my gf is asian
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And im sorry but hes not really that smart, just knows a thing about graphic design and presentations at the collegiate level.

He's having a debate with Spencer this week on JF's channel, we'll see what he says

Ecelebs suck. The YouTube channel VertigoPolitix has the best material on the web, and it redpills pretty much every normie who watches it.

Would have millions of views but YouTube has been covertly censoring it. They actually address the JQ.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=A9uc7Q8jQd8

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Even that's is available to everyone very little people look into it, and even if it's completely obvious a large number of people are against it, so it's still worth talking about it.

He’s recognising the obvious; poo-in-loos, Chinese, Indonesians, Chileans, Iranians, are FUNCTIONALLY white, especially if they’ve been immigration screened. Only Africans can’t hold their shit together.

Spencer hasnt spoken in awhile

>1 post faggot creates no-content shill thread
Put a gun in your front hole and pull the trigger

He cucked but he’s not wrong. I will most likely die a minority within my nation.

some irish libtards told him niggers in ireland were more irish than him, and sean last made a video showing white immigration and assimilation isn't perfect, so therefore fuck white people, fuck the ethnostate, we're going to administer tests to nonwhite immigrants to determine proclivity toward right wing thinking and check neighborhood of origin and voting records to make sure they're based republicans™

here's the mirror for the video:
bitchute.com/video/qkNrd-fJWOc/

good channel there.

Lol, you are a faggot, his dad is in military and he made lots of videos about war, he is certainly no stranger the idea of people killing each other for political reasons. He gave a pretty good reasoning behind why he felt like white nationalism is no longer feasible, you just don't care about anything that doesn't fit your delusional world view.

He also recognised that half of whites are shitlibs.

your dad also rapes foreign children and is a murderer

>Ecelebs suck
> go watch this other yourube channel

>(((alt-right)))
Fuck off kike.

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targeting the masses is already retarded. especially with the tactic he's using.
yes, they are the same thing. again proving that he's a brainlet, you are probably too.

It's not an eceleb, you brainlet. Just becaus something is on YouTube doesn't make it an eceleb. Watch the video I linked.

How much of a newfag do you have to be to buy the narrative in that image?

I think he views the sperged out idea of pushing a white ethno-state to be not likely to gain traction amongst normies, and has also decided that he should not reject people who support white / generally western ways of life whatever their race might be. If libertarian-style right wing views gain traction it's likely to lead to freedom of association which will in turn lead to a virtual ethno-state. so it's sort of a different but more realistic strategic approach to achieve pretty much the same thing, I guess.

>make unprecedented gains
>flee the field
mmhmm

he doesnt want to fight. there will be consequences for forming an exclusive state. people will die.
>his dad was in the military
nice non-sequitur, bro. you really proved hes a revolutionary there. because his dad was in the military. i am convinced.
ass.

alt right lmfao. thats a good one

This

White nationalism has no chance in the US. You need to frame it in cultural terms.

He made videos about war. He made statements about being okay with ethical cleansing. You are a faggot that doesn't recognise the fact that more than half of whites are shitlibs.

Take the Taylor pill

well, if he said so, it must be so. words speak louder than actions after all.

Andy Warski rejecting racialism even after listening to hours upon hours of the alt-right greatest thinkers making their best arguments made Alt-Hype lose faith.

You're not going to convince spics of anything. Reason why everyone dropped this whole idea of civic nationalism being possible was because of how tribalistic every other group is.

Trump is president.

The other racial groups are tribalistic, that's true... but the political platform needs to give those espousing it sufficient reasonable doubt about whether they are a racist (evil) or not.

This
The whole "we act like we are a white nation and pretend the hoards aren't there and we win" argument is DOA.
If you believe there is no way to get to W.Nat, then you might as well be blackpilled. There is no "ignore the problem and we win" path.
"Ignore the problem" is EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT.

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Advocating for stricter border controls does not require pushing a full blown white ethno-state. I'm pretty sure he still supports strict border controls that favor Europeans. And I don't think he advocates "convincing" anyone of anything, he just doesn't think rejecting people outright due to their race makes sense or is productive. I don't speak for him though, this just seems to be what he is driving at.

Most people in america don't recognize the degree of the danger and aren't going to throw their lives away betting on some political party.

They're only going to invest in projects that allow them to maintain their current level of social status AS WELL AS bettering the country.

warski is a normie dope. he and the other 90-110 iq retards will go with whatever the orthodoxy is. theyre sheep and must be led. in a nihilistic shithole society he'll be a half-fag stoner. in a catholic society he'll be a peasant religious fanatic. in a fascist society hes a career soldier.
we need power, not the approval of empty normie sheep.

Yeah man. The other day my dad and I got into a political argument after I showed him Sarah Jeong and some other examples of anti white hate. Nothing but "hmm I dunno maybe you're right but what can you do", while at the same time speaking passionately about how offensive my beliefs are to blacks and Jews.

We're either unusually prideful or totally insane, I can't figure out which is which. But we legitimately are freaks. Most white people live to be subservient, it's like the whole world is a Yuri Bezmenov useful idiot who just refuses to deny accurate information even when you shove it right in their face. It's worse than Yuri imagined, he said the academics would be like this but now almost everyone is. It's scary.

If you watched alt hypes recent videos he makes the case that even white immigrants vote shitlib.
The second ammendment is an american concept not a white one

>ignore the problem and we win
Nobody is advocating that. Total strawman.
Civic nationalism IS the solution. Demanding white culture is a longterm trajectory to getting white people.

Warski is an absolute cuck... Jf was the stronger of the pair I don't even understand what warski did other than act like a stupid fucking normie. Excellent channel been watching since early days.

t. Dunning-Kruger Burger

Aatu tuplat. Antaisin tään mutta ei pysty :(

I don't understand what you are talking about. I did not say any of this in my comment and I don't think Ryan said anything like this in his video.

>in a catholic society he'll be a half-fag stoner. in a fascist society hes a half-fag stoner.

Andy will always be Andy.

Pragmatism in action.

He's a gay mixed race man with a fetish for east Asian asshole who is in effect a Left-Libertarian. He basically fell into "white nationalism" from the perspective of being a libertine technocrat trying to find a most optimal mode of society which facilitates Cruising.

The fact that even in the same racial group there are still difference between ethnic groups and how they vote.
The west have great degree of freedom in comparison to other civilizations, americans just expeded on that.