Tradionalism is a scam

Why would you want to attach yourself to an emotionally manipulative, shallow, cunning, draining woman that will lessen your quality of life and feeling of peace?

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Because I'm not gay

Take their rights away and I ll marry one and have 12 kids. I ll make her vagina look like a stargate

There is a third way.

What are you on about now?

Go on

That the majority of relationships are cancer.

Just living life self employed, do recreational things such as listen to music, see friends, eat good food, watch youtube, game etc, maybe have some sex if it isn't any trouble.

Traps aren't gay.

escorts. it's honest and they're cleaner than most women these days

Be kind of spiritual, when you are with a woman they can drag you down.

I haven't gone this route yet but it might actually be a viable option, if done in the right way with the right intentions.

go away alex

Look, if that honestly sounds like a fulfilling life to you, then good for you. I had dreams of that life when I was like 18 years old but as you get older, as you bust your ass working, etc. You can always feel that you need to do more with your life. I don’t think that it’s possible for a human man to plateau out and stop trying to improve upon himself in new ways. Getting old without making a family is torture.

Is the title in reference to this?

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>Getting old without making a family is torture.

Perhaps. But a lot of people get into relationships and gradually have their soul crushed. Hard to say what to do here.

Think so desu youtube.com/watch?v=KjjifffO7HE&t=

That was awesome.
Made my day.

>bargaining with men for their resources
>what can we get from you in return ?
I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION !!!

I think it’s natural to be a little afraid of that decision, it’s one of the toughest ones that you make in your life.

I would never close that door though.

you have to find a service with a good reputation, reputation is everything. clean girls that get checked regularly and practices safe sex.

absolutely none of the bullshit with a normal relationship and you can pretty much do what you want within reason. you could literally play out a scene like this by hitting doggy style.
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when you're done your done. no bullshit, you just go back to your life.

sometimes its not a decision

You might be right, I just see what has happened to the men in my family and around me with women, it is a horror show. Also just in the wider society tbf. A lot of guys think they need a relationship but it ends up costing more than it is worth and you lose yourself.

Because another mans asshole can't produce me children

This might be a good option, certainly better than a lot of relationships these days for guys. Honestly people, don't settle for a soul grind. Not to say a good relationship is impossible, but most guys are getting thrown off their foundations and becoming disorientated by emotionally manpiluative women.

That whole rant was mind boggling. The men have designed and made a well thought out camp. The women have seen how to design and build a well made camp by observing what the mens looks like. All they have to do it copy what the men have done and maybe ask for a lesson in making fire.

Still manage to complain how it's not fair enough though you have had all the research, development and testing done for you all that needs doing is a bit of labour.

"I'm a strong independent woman"

To have children and cook food.

Kek

Women in the vicinity of men just complain and whine about problems constantly until you want to put a bullet in your head. It has to be manipulation or some type of psychological abuse.

Why are you worried about bad relationships as a man? As a man you have until 70 to settle and get married and make some kids. As a man you can live the sex and the city lifestyle until you meet Mrs. Right. Be yourself so if there's anything incompatible you break up before any damage is done.

take a risk faggot

Just whack some meat in a pan and boil some vegetables, maybe add some sauce and your good.

The kids and family part I am stuck on the answer.

>do men and women survivor
>men do what they do best; forage
>women do what they do best; sit on their ass
>kill boar/harvest plants
>give it to women to prep while sitting on their ass
>repeat

Why is this so hard to grasp?

Sounds ok, you gotta protect yourself though and have boundaries to push toxic women(majority?) away.

incelinos

Don't the majority of men lose in that risk?

Did those men go in knowing the risks? Did they actually make logical assessments of the woman they got with?

Most the men I see ruin themselves on woman had zero self awareness, and just got with some self obsessed thot that shared zero interests with the guy. These people would not have even talked to each other if not for sex.

You can't build a real relationship on sex. it will break down.

I was rated in the top few attractive guys during my school years and have always had women attracted to me. Even if you are some kind of 'chad' you become subject to drama and crazy woman stuff that can crush you.

Also just a small note here, so many people, especially leftist use the term 'incel'. Well I have news for you, only a tiny amount of guys are actual chads, most of you calling guys incels are low on the totem pole and the only reason women give you attention or get in a relationship with you is because they are undesirable human beings that no guy with his head about him would want to associate with or they are emotionally manipulating you and getting what they want (i.e attention, money, dominating you).

Yeah I mean I do like cooking but it is nice having a woman that packs my lunch for work and has dinner ready for me. I was very self-sufficient when I was single and I am a pretty okay cook but now I just really got it made.

My advice for you fellas is never date a women who can't or won't cook. This is an incredibly bad sign.
Writing off all women because a lot of them are terrible isn't good either though. You can't afford them the same accountability you would a man. They are more like dogs: if they suck it is because those who reared them suck. Don't think of them as equals, it will be very disappointing. Be patient for one who is worth a damn, obviously.
Finally, women are (does this need to be said?) not the objective of your life. They are a support character that help you reach the objective. If they are your objective you are falling short of the true meaning of manhood. "Women are a warrior's rest." No more.

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You know how people graduate high school and immediately go into university without a thought about what they want to do with their lives? That’s how boomers were with getting married. Don’t rush into things, let things develop, don’t force a woman into any beliefs.

More and more people have your beliefs, meaning less and less men are open to women. As this continues, you’ll have a much larger market and women will probably be more agreeable because of it.

A family member got married young and she completely fucked with him, especially in his last few years before dying of cancer. Granted she was a bit messed up from past experiences but on the face of it they looked like the typical conservative family.

Another family member got dragged through the courts and fucked with, lost his business, complete mess alchoholic.

In terms of people around me I see feminist women treating their boyfriend like a lap dog. Examples: 1.Girlfriend is a crazy feminist, buys dog, leaves it with boyfriend to take care of and goes to Sweden (also holidays without the guy with girl friends), (possibly cheating?). 2.Girlfriend of guy goes out drinking hooking up with random guys and being a mess 3. pretty girl sleeps with like 50 guys and gets a cuck nice guy bf 4.women metooing their bf's dubiously .. I could go on, these people are all in their twenties

Listen we have to go back to some 1950s(at least) roll back of womens rights.
Either it done gradually or there will be a hard reset in the form of society collapsing.

>Women are a warrior's rest
ugh ! toxic masculinity !

Its called shit testing and men need to learn what it is to guard against it

There will need to be a hard reset in my opinion... For one thing taxes seem to just go higher and higher as time goes on, this can only go on so long and the politicians are intent on raising them. The national debt is also increasing and is not possible to pay, the banks are fucking with us, the immigration is a joke. etc etc

Whatever it is, it can fuck off.

You guys obvisouly have never watched survivor.

This season ended up in a all female final 5 and at final seven it was Six women and one man. The men imploded on themselves come merge from their egos.

Why are you people so quick to validate your sexuality?
>Alex Jones gets caught saying tranny porn
>I- I fucked like 150 girls by 16. I'm not gay!
Literally no one gives a shit if you're a cock gobbling gay.

This sounds quite plausible.

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watch this guy ; youtube.com/channel/UCeY3vg1r0KrvuyPOi7T39eA

he basically makes women admit all their faults

Thats gay tho

Is that why you get in relationships? Because might think that you are gay?

will watch lol

Y'all need to get laid.

For sure, but at what price? That is part of the question being debated here.