Why aren't you a Utopian idealist?

Dickie thinks that white politics should be driven by a utopian ideal instead by pragmatics (the Ethnostate that will never come into being). He thinks leftists are better suited to attaining power though the pursuit of an unattainable fantasy that conservatives who want to conserve a current or previous order.

I find this idea childish, as we can all see what fantasy driven political ideologies have done to our society. But what do you think?

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Crazier things than ethnostates have been done before.
We just happen to live in such a sterile "by the book" sort of world right now that we forget.

Idealism can be annoying, but it's just thinking way ahead. Someone needs to do it.

all political ideals are fantasies.this is what sets us apart from animals we can only live in fantasies. Israel started out as a novel called "altneuland" written by theodore herzel

That's retarded, utopian ideas always end in disaster. See: communism, national socialism, and globalism
Any goal beyond ethic indepence like we had for all of history should be discarded.

>"all political ideals are fantasies"

Typical jewish subversion. Ideals are not fantasies, they are closer to teleologies than indulgences if they are true. Fantasies are disconnected from reality, ideals come from it.

I do agree though, the idea than a belligerent jewish state is going to exist for long in the middle of the muslim world is definitely a fantasy.

Oh wait I misread your post. Calling an ethnostate a utopian idea is retarded because they exist all across the world, throughout all of history and are infact more common than shitty multiethic countries. So there nothing utopian about it at all.

you have to have a vision to inspire people to action. i can see where he is coming from.

>Americans, coming from a country that literally has no original race, still talking about ethnostates

Read up a little on Fascism before posting with the role-playing flag. Fascists had similar ideas. Dickie's only fault is being largely authentic in a world of frauds.

The reason why it's a utopian idea is because Dickard doesn't want an ethnostate, like the sort you might want to carve out of montana. His "Ideal" is a multinational ethnic imperium. He's basically 40k posting and acting in real life like that power is only just beyond his grasp.

He's the most inauthentic and sophomoric commentator on the internet. He's seems legit to people with a grudge and just enough education to feel like they know about things they actually don't.

alright you hun bastard let's see how well you're doing in 50 years

>coming from a country that literally has no original race

This is a jewish meme. America was founded and created by whites and we all know it.

Richard's moved beyond the ethnostate. We're getting a gay space Roman Imperium now.

I have strong suspicion that Beyond Good and Evil is the only book he's ever read cover to cover.

>He's a utopian idealist. Not a racist.

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He makes a few good points. The strongest points he makes are that culture and politics is driven by the will of a handful of people in positions of power (in the USA it's basically a few hundred people, the rest is just a domino effect) and that the people in general are moved by displays of control and power, not rational argumentation. If you can sway them it's often through emotion not argument. Presenting normies with charts and graphs is a complete waste of time.

That being said, Spencer is still an epic cunt and all the criticisms Ryan dumped on him are 100% accurate. I'm also 100% convinced he's controlled opposition. Nothing about him rings as genuine. Something about him seems really fucking off if you think about it. He just sticks out like a sore thumb and it's weird how the media gives him so much attention compared to others. Something kind of reeks with him.

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A white American split off country is doable. Also to all the cucks who say it's "white flight" to go to one area no it is not. We regroup and then we reconquer North America. Take it back from ZOG and and all their brown pets.
Not all of us should go Northwest though. Some are better off causing trouble for the establishment in Dixie doing some Turner Diaries type shit. Can't fuck with us if they're too busy dealing with League of the South and the Klansmen going ape shit on their military bases now can they?

> A white American split off country is doable.

No, it's not "doable", there's literally NOTHING doable about this. What's your amazing plan for accomplishing this on any level whatsoever? What is ANYONE'S plan for accomplishing this? I hear people say this all the time but there is never even one iota, not one hairs-width of a plan on any level. It's just "herr durrrr! ETHNO-STATE will come after da collapz!" or "herr drr, let's build the ethnostate ON THE MOON" or Antarctica or floating in the middle of the ocean...ummm, no.

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Maybe not a split off, but America was browned by policy over time.

It can be bleached by policy over time.

He's not fucking wrong nitwit. It's the same shit John Adams wrote about and warned Americans about. It's the biggest divide in our country and what causes the most rifts. Leftists (not the brainwashed goyim at the bottom that are just puppets and clowns) are great at attaining power because it's literally their only motive. It's the same concept with 'big government' that they always vote for. The core existence of 'big government' doesn't have shit to do with helping citizens, it has everything to do with keeping it's current power and expanding it further.
It's the same with leftists.

Leftists have been better suited in attaining power in the last 60 years because it's been their only driving force at all. That's not to say the fantasy 'open borders, globohomo' agenda they have is correct, but this fag's not wrong in making his assessment.

I'm not sure how you could misread shit as much as you have, but his assesment is on par with ted's when it comes to leftists and their power grabs.

Yeah, WHAT policy are you talking about? What PLAN? How are you going to accomplish this?

ITT

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>What policy
We were browned by
>immigration holes everywhere, legal and illegal
>benefits system which promotes reckless r-type dysgenic reproduction, rather than aiding the creation of K-type self-supporting families
>Propaganda and feminism targeting solely white women to divide the sexes

Solution:
>Attain state power (#MAGA)
>Close immigration holes, legal and illegal (WALL)
>Adjust immigration to favor high-value countries (aka: white ones)
>Fix economy (#MAGA) to crush the unemployment rate, then reform welfare to be about working families rather than "who gon pay fo dese keedz"
>Purge the education department of anti-white ideologues and promote alternative education (happening already, homeschooling and community education is blowing up. Public school is rapidly but unspoken being acknowledged as a nigger daycare/prison training camp unfit for healthy children with futures)
>Make motherhood hip and meme on how much work sucks (white women are doing this already).
>Wait for generation of race-conscious whites raised by the whites who actually bothered to have kids (the conservatives) to take the reins.

The fact that Jason Unruhe has that hair unironically gives me such a chuckle.

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Which one of those is the real one? Top right?

You need an idealism to drive people. Righteousness.
Be pragmatic once you have something to conserve.

Im firmly in the pragmatist camp, but he has a point. The left has broad aspirational goals, and the right is merely reactionary towards all the problems we facr. You need an end goal to aspire towards.

God this fucking place sometimes. Let him run with this. Why must there always be a crowd people ready to shit on every single thing.

I thought he was great on JF's show last night. He btfo'd Ryan Faulk, bohunks, incels, and Jow Forums TMZ faggot mob chronic pessimism.

Let somebody else worry about pragmatism. Like maybe you perhaps, OP, you fucking faggot. Oh, you already have a no-nonsense blueprint of perfect logical steps all worked out? Guess what? Nobody cares. 500 faggots right here probably have better ones. Because what counts is actually doing something about it in the real world. How about we encourage him?

>NO ONE EVER TALKS ABOUT HOW TO WHITEN AMERICA
>Well here's how
>*crickets*
yep

Rulebreaking troll thread

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>leave Dickie alone!

Faggot

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Try contributing something other than your face for cum sponge, first. When you've done that (lol you won't), you'll have some clout. Till then though, 'thar goes the biggest faggot that ever was'.