Minimum wage is a meme and it needs to be abolished. Automation should also replace low wage jobs right now.
This is the 5th time the faggots at a fast food restaurant got my order wrong. FIFTH FUCKING TIME. I am fairly positive that a machine can do a better job than these worthless fucking retards. Most of the time, they also don't know what meal I want to buy, even though it exists on their website and list of meals.
>hurr durr some 15 y/o teenager got my order wrong time to abolish minimum wage >too fucking retarded to realize that fast food jobs aren't the only minimum wage jobs out there
Kill yourself. Nobody cares that your feelings got hurt because the cheese was missing on your heart clogging big mac. People deserve to be paid for their hard work and I sure as hell ain't gonna take the definition of hard work from a basement dweller.
Adam Campbell
Minimum wage shouldn't mean minimum effort. People should be paid what they are worth.
These 15 year olds need to be fired or paid a dime per hour until they can handle customers correctly...
Michael Smith
15 years old rofl... these are 18-30 year olds
Eli Nguyen
>Automation should also replace low wage jobs right now Not technically feasible.
Matthew Evans
Correct conclusion, incorrect reasoning.
Minimum wage is simple-minded leftist economics in a nutshell. Drill this phrase into your heads, leftists: Inflation is too many bills chasing too few goods. If you raise the minimum wage, it just makes everything more expensive, and hurts the earning power of people who previously had livable paychecks.
If you want to increase actual earnings instead of just the numbers on the paycheck, you need competition and productivity, not legislation. You get competition and productivity by getting the government out of the way.
Thomas Barnes
You seem to be confusing raising the minimum wage with having a minimum wage.
Jaxon Jones
>burger flipping robot goes down. >no one to complain to >they hastily get untrained scabs to try and make your food even worse
Cameron Martin
just hire more illegals
Zachary Cook
why should we have a minimum wage?
Caleb Murphy
OP a cuck who doesnt understand how life works rofl.
Juan Cooper
The whole point behind minimum wage is to ensure livable wages. It never, ever accomplishes that, because the end result is inflation.
>price controls
Yes, this is usually what stupid socialist regimes try to do once they realize that wage fixing doesn't solve poverty. You know what they get? Goods shortages, because price is how the market tells people where to go and start kicking ass. Housing prices high? Make more homes. Water shortage? People will rush in to fill it because there's a lot of money to be made there.
Ryan Robinson
>ordered 9 nuggets >they gave me 6 >went to tell them and I ended up with the right one and kept the initial 6.
Juan Adams
you get paid what you are worth why is this so complicated? >the end result is inflation. that is the point (((they))) need to keep giving out shitty loans
Connor Diaz
Stop eating fast food you stupid nigger make your own damn food
Aiden Clark
Where i live minimum wage is currently $18.29/hour (around 13USD) but most minimum wage jobs i know of pay $20-$25/hour (14.50-18USD)
Chase Perry
People relise that fast food is not the only minimum wage work right? Go work as a farm hand on a 600+ head dairy farm for a few weeks and tell me minimum wage is enough for that job.
Cameron Ramirez
if the pay is not enough dont work there
Cooper Cox
>Most of the time, they also don't know what meal I want to buy, even though it exists on their website and list of meals.
Have you tried knowing what the food actually is called? Or have you tried not screeching ebonics at the workers and expecting them to understand your knock off english chimp language?
t.fast food worker. I thought like you until I actually worked in fast food. Niggers and out of country minority shit stains always, and I DO MEAN ALWAYS make the job stressful because no one fuckin knows what you want you 3rd world animal. We arent your auto correct.
Asher Barnes
That is the problem. You city people run around going "lol burger flips and waiters don't need a higher pay" while the other 90% of the minimum wage work force is doing jobs harder than any of you could ever manage while they are on the same wage as a burger flip in your cosy little city. Then you wonder why "they trrrk urrr jrrrbbbs" when that sector can't get any workers from your own country because they pay does not reflect the work.
But go on, keep promoting the decline of middle class work in your country.
Glad i live in a country where people get fair wages.
Aaron Stewart
>gets your order wrong 5 times >you continue to go to that place HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM for an ancap you sure don't believe in voting with your dollar
I swear some of these anons havent worked a fucking day in their life. Im not even one to bitch about my wages but i hate when people say we deserve even less. Or "just get another job" fucking hell reminds me of this
>automated nugget counter >prints list of quality assurance tests on nuggets with receipt >tenderness >heat >assert nuggets == 9 >crispy value of skin >adequate placement ratio in box
Jacob Sanders
>is doing jobs harder hard does not equal value >Then you wonder why "they trrrk urrr jrrrbbbs" No I dont >when that sector can't get any workers If they cant get workers then they will have to raise wages >But go on, keep promoting the decline of middle class work in your country. We had a middle class long before the minimum wage >Glad i live in a country where people get fair wages. You also live in a country with an astronomical cost of living
Mason Robinson
How does a minimum wage increase the availability of entry level jobs?
Thomas Myers
In other words, things become cheaper from changes that make those things easier to produce. Things do not become cheaper because you give everyone xx% more money
Zachary Howard
Failing leftist shithole cities that are overflowing with homeless generally have a high minimum wage and a strong union presence. Low taxes and low regulation is how you get strong competition, and strong competition is how you increase real earnings and vertical mobility.
Eli Gonzalez
>The whole point behind minimum wage is to ensure livable wages Initially the point behind minimum wage was union workers wanting to stop scabs at shipyards.
Jordan Rivera
Fun fact, Farm workers are among the lowest paid people in America earning on average 19k a year and you have more farmers in your country than you do waiters. That is your fucking food industry for christ sake. A level 1 worker on my farm is earning $22.50 an hour after tax with 40-60 hour weeks with superannuation and all the other bells and whistles included.... that is 45-65k a year at the starting level...
But tell me more about how those people deserve to live on scraps while you stuff your faces with fast food from the burger flips. Please explain all your sound logic guys.
They also become cheaper from incentives to drop the prices, AKA competition. This is why trickle down doesn't work, by the way: Giving subsidies to the rich does not give them competitors.
Jonathan Rogers
and 45-60k dollarydoos is 32-48k burgerbucks if anyone can't be bothered googling it. You literally pay your farmers half what i do for the same fucking job.
Lincoln Robinson
well maybe they would make more if we stopped dumping the world's poor here
William Kelly
>guy who makes burgers gets it wrong >it's just a fucking burger >OMG FIRE HIM AND EVERYONE LIKE HIM >bankers and politicians destroy entire nations continuously >CEOs run companies in to the ground and escape with a bonus before the end >This is all fine for some reason
Jose Green
>robots take over fast food > OP still "gets his order wrong" >complains to a manager about how his "order is wrong" Stop spending your retirement money at McDonalds.
Adrian Martinez
You're a pants on head retard if you think that farmers work the whole year. That's the same as complaining about teacher pay when they get so much fucking time off.
Liam Smith
Im glad someone is saying this. Minimum wage is state worship. A government should not be able to determine how much your time is worth. That is between employers and employees. >m-but-m-but then the ebil kepitalist exploit.
The only reason companies pay $8/hr is because government allows it. If they didnt get involved, nobody would work for $8/hr except the most demoralized and slave-mentality having groids and white trash
Ethan Richardson
Oh right because america takes in soooo many refugees... you have 3 million refugees in your country since 1980 and your population is currently 325 million. You telling me your country cares so little about its own food industry that that not even 1% of your population managed to set the seed for its destruction?
Pretty fucking pathetic argument. I am legitimately worried about America.
Levi Wood
You are a pants on head retard if you think we don't work all year lol. A farm that doesnt is one that will fail. You do potatoes in summer? Cool you should do sheep and cattle in winter.
Jaxson Adams
>Automation should also replace low wage jobs right now I mean sure go ahead, nobody is stopping you.
Jacob Williams
If it were any lower there wouldnt be entry level jobs. If any business can choose to pay as they wish it would bottleneck the work force into low skill good paying jobs like construction. Where will the women go? On top of that anyone can say no to a small business that wants to pay you $3/hr and just go work at a chain that has the money to pay you well. Either way as long as im paid and on time im good with where the minimum is. Im a big small business person and doing anything to the minimum wage would be detrimental. I cant stand it though when you pretend everyone has a college degree or experience. Not everyone does. I work my ass off and what i get is what i get. Ill never complain
Alexander Parker
>you have 3 million refugees in your country since 1980 and your population is currently 325 million. Half our country is nonwhites
Parker Evans
>nobody would work for $8/hr except the most demoralized and slave-mentality having groids and white trash
How many hundreds of people apply for each job now? With the way things are now it will just be a race to the bottom, with people working harder for less because little money is better than no money.
Jeremiah Harris
The biggest subsidies for the rich are the burdensome laws and regulations that people opposing 'trickle down economics' (which is false branding, like the alt-right) support. Legal costs are one of the few things that become cheaper as you scale, as one policy from few lawyers can be implemented at the corporate level.
Blake Martin
Nice education you have there. You trying to blame brown people for your problems to a person from one of the most multicultural countries on the planet?
And you need far, far less people for the winter you retard That's why the annual income is so low. Most farmhands don't work the offseason on a farm. That's why it's called an offseason. Same with construction jobs in the North.
William Sullivan
>If it were any lower there wouldnt be entry level jobs. why not >If any business can choose to pay as they wish it would bottleneck the work force into low skill good paying jobs like construction. What does this have to do with minimum > no to a small business that wants to pay you $3/hr wage? how are they paying people now then?
>d everyone has a college degree most people without a degree can still make more than minimum wage >or experience. get experience
Samuel Thompson
Trickle down refers specifically to corporate welfare. In case you hadn't noticed from my posts and the flag, I'm completely in favor of extensive deregulation and getting rid of 95+% of our bloated state and federal governments.
Thomas Green
I am blaming the dumping of low skilled workers on the decline of low skilled wages Do you even understand economics?
Alexander Parker
we run with 4 less people during the off season. im pretty sure 4 is less than 12. if one of those 4 that goes off does well and one of the 12 leaves well look at that they just got a promotion to a level 2 worker and now they earn up to 80k a year.
amazing how it works hey?
Jason Wood
The people who push for automation are usually ass blasted faggots who went to school and doubled their debt and now can't find a job while niggers Tyrone is out there making $15 hour at some restaurant lol. Stay butt mad this is capitalism hate it or love it but faggot.
The National (((Socialists))) in this thread are fucking livid about capitalism and complain about how "unfair" and "jewish" it is just like the communists and yet they wonder why no one takes them seriously kek.
Thomas Brown
We're not asking for some law to push automation, we're trying to fund development for it.
Blake Edwards
I think you should blame your education system and maybe a few more problems in the sector rather than 1% of your population uleh. I don't think 1% of your population is having the effect you think it is.
Excellent we're on the same page I don't trust meme flags though.
Lincoln Richardson
>blame your education system Why cant people educate their own kids? >I don't think 1% of your population far more the 1% of our population is unskilled third worlders
Connor Evans
Op is absolutely correct. Anyone with even minimal business skill understands that a set minimum wage drives up wages for everyone else who may not be deserving of them which results to tighter margins which may outrule the risk needed to take to start a cashflow or equity based venture leading to overall less jobs in the marketplace because mr entrepreneur or hell even a small business owner doesn't want to deal with.
im on the liquid jew so if this may not make sense but i hope it will
Bentley Morris
If the lower reference goes to shit (minimum wage) so goes most wages above that threshold because corporate interest associations exist and so do cartels.
Luis Nelson
no, your country has literally taken in 3 million "unskilled workers" in the last 40 years and a large majority of those "unskilled workers" are things like doctors, engineers, dentists, teachers.
Just proving my point really about how bad your education system is considering i know this and i am not even from your fucking country.
>Why cant people educate their own kids? Because they need two wages per household. And standardised education and certificates allows better movement through the job market.
All no minimum wage would do is start a race to the bottom, especially with employment shrinking, automation rising, and more and more people after fewer jobs.
Companies have also learned that they can totally still get buy and turn profit with small teams forced to work much harder, so removing minimum wage would just have the same few people working just as hard but for less pay.
Ethan Ramirez
>no, your country has literally taken in 3 million "unskilled workers" in the last 40 years Ok you have no clue what you are talking about >a large majority of those "unskilled workers" are things like doctors, engineers, dentists, teachers. lol its time to stop posting
Jace Thompson
>Because they need two wages per household. no they dont you will find most poor families dont even have a father
Isaiah Hill
I like when joints get it wrong. They usually give me free stuff if I point it out.
Asher Bennett
Considering the two brain cells you have can't comprehend googling it yourself here you go.
I get the feeling i am talking to a flat earth creationist, that is how fucking ignorant you are.
refugees are not the only people coming here and shitting out anchor babies retard
Ryan Lopez
Oh right can't forget about those American samoan "immigrants" and stuff right? Half your migrants are from your own fucking colonies.
Hudson Williams
isn't that because all the illegals in the us don't give a hot shit about what the mimimum wage is here because they're just going to send the american money back to their family Brownistan where they can live like kings off of american pennies, thus driving down the overall price of hard labor?
Ayden Martinez
No most of them are from mexico and central america
Landon Ortiz
oh the horror, those dastardly mexicans, build a wall! How dare they migrate to another country?!?!???? Dirty brownish people they are nearly niggers right? Where is the KKK when you need them.
Seriously mate you come across as a moronic fuckwit.
You think sending all the mexicans in your country back there would help your economy or something?
They are working all the shit jobs Americans won't work because of your minimum wage bullshit.
Your economy would collapse overnight.
Did you get the message? America has dug its own grave. You can't raise the wage and hire murricans and you can't get rid of the scary brown people...
So what do you want?
Carter Powell
Minimum wagecucks are treated horribly. The working conditions suck. The managers don't respect them. They don't even get a break room to decompress in. Treat your employees like shit, get shit output, everybody suffers for it.
Thomas Smith
>no one to complain to talk to the engineer who made it, the manufacturer or the service technicians
jesus christ dude are you a poorfag who makes a living on minimum wage?
Jason Morgan
>Seriously mate you come across as a moronic fuckwit. why would I want them in the country? >You think sending all the mexicans in your country back there would help your economy or something? I dont really care about the economy I am more concerned with more democratic voters >Your economy would collapse overnight. oh well it will come back
Oliver Smith
You are a commie. you came here to subvert. you sacrifice minimum wage as bait to press your automation meme. Your intent for automation meme is to persuade Americans to be lazy, roll over and make way for the Chinese takeover. To persuade neets to continue to be neets.
It is totally retarded that anyone would be baited by abstract ideas from some commie think tank over practical and proven application.
Hey kids, take up some hands on career, carpentry, farming, plumbing, electrical, welding. Make America Great Again, work to build up your own private property and estate. Don't listen to these commie losers.
why do you fags use insults instead of actual arguments?
Jose Carter
Just admit that you hate those damned foreigners uleh. This is Jow Forums no one cares that you are a racist and your motivations are literally just "dirty brown people"
I think you could pick on a more deserving group like muslims though, probably more productive.
Thomas Russell
Here's the plan, right: Get a bottom rung job that will literally hire anybody. Stay there for at least six months. Work really, really hard. Distinguish yourself. Show up on time. Don't miss days, ever. Learn your job. Stay late when asked. Work extra days when asked. Be autonomous. Meet your quotas. Give your boss a good rep with the higher ups. At this point, either start looking for a promotion or a higher paying job, and use your boss who now loves you as a support.
I've done this myself. It works.
>Corporate boot licker.
And now you see the actual reason for your troubles. Step one to being good at capitalism is to stop being so self-centered and resentful and start working to help others around you in order to help yourself.
>There are no opportunities.
Move to a red state, and help keep it that way.
Henry Williams
>Just admit that you hate those damned foreigners uleh. when did I ever deny it?
Charles Cooper
>Minimum wage is a meme and it needs to be abolished. I hope not. It's taken me nearly 15 years for my $15/hr wage.
>Minimum wage is a meme and it needs to be abolished This. I can't find entry level work for my chemistry degree.
Benjamin Watson
I also want to add that the eternal minimum wage workers that all of the sob stories talk about where they're juggling three jobs with three kids that they're never home to see are the dumbest and most resentful workers of the lot. When somebody gives them a quota, they let out a moan, sulk, and then don't even try to hustle. It's not just bad luck that they're working 16 hours per day at $7.50/hr instead of 8 hours at $15+/hr. It's their own fault that they're not worth competing over.
Jeremiah Cox
Don't worry man, nobody lives forever.
Evan Gonzalez
One last thing in this line: Western civilization as a whole is in need of a strong shot of stoicism.
If you're unhappy, it's your own fault. Refuse to be a victim. Practice intelligent self-sacrifice. Consider your thoughts carefully, and then speak them. People should have no doubt that what you say is what you mean. Do what needs to be done. Stop holding yourself back by wasting time and/or cowering in the corner.
Colton Diaz
15 posts from this guy supporting imported niggers and higher minimum wages