So what is the best age to start a family really?

The (((media))) keeps telling you that you can wait until your mid 30s. But is this really true?

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You should wait till you are financially able to care for a child.

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>he thinks he’s some fine example of the white race that MUST continue his lineage

Have you even found someone dumb enough to let you penetrate them

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As early as you can if you are mature enough and able to support it. This should be by 25 if you have your shit together which most people don't.

Hannah Hayes and her sister? Hawt.

>get married
>have kids
>wife divorces you and takes half your shit because chad treats her like a real woman and you are always too busy with work
>pay her "child support" for 18 years so she can continue to live in the comfort to which she has become accustomed

just donate to a sperm bank senpai, outsource your biological imperative to some other sucker

>starting a family when you've experienced nothing of adulthood

literally cucking yourself from life experiences day 1. Marriage should happen in your 30's after you've had time to enjoy yourself, grow as a person through experience and are more financially stable.

ideally the female gives birth no later than her early 20s and the male before 30

then you increase risk of problems. The system (capitalism) is set up to prevent the lower classes from being 'financially able' untill after their genes have been damaged.

The bluepill is that you should get married and start a family young, either for truly bluepill reasons like le true lurv xddd or for seemingly scientific reasons like healthier offspring

The “redpill” is that you should get settled, have a good job and otherwise prepare yourself economically and mentally for the betacuck provider life of being a mule for Mrs. Roastie user and user Jr(s).

The redpill on marriage is that it’s fuckin stupid and you are a loser if you do that shit instead of working for yourself your whole life, seriously it’s retarded and beta as fuck even before you consider divorce rape, alimony and all that bullshit

Don’t be stupid and throw your life away for the legacy or white babies memes, having kids won’t make a dent in the world’s problems but it sure as hell will make a massive pile of problems for you as an individual guaranteed

Think logically not emotionally

Holy shit is that them? Where did you find this pic?

While true if you wait too long you'll likely end up with a special needs child who will drain all your accounts to take care of. Raising special needs children is extremely physically/mentally draining as well.

I think the man should be around 23-27ish and the women should be about 17-22. Those would be ages I would consider ideal, anything above that and it may be a bit too late to have a big functioning family

Marriage made sense for men 50 years ago, it doesn't make a lick of sense for men today. Its all risk and no reward.

this is a jew

>So what is the best age to start a family really?
It isnt until you purge the place

22 - 28, earlier if you have a decent job

get reliable job. be 23 y/o male and 21 y/o female. have three-ish kids over four-five years. work your way up ladder. Kids in college by your mid-forties. retire in early sixties. spend rest of your life (20-30 years) in luxury with your wife and successful children.

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Okay but adhoms aside do you really think that your individual decision to have 1, 2, 3, or even 4 kids will make even a slight difference to the fate of a world of 7,000,000,000 people and counting, or even an American nation of 400,000,000 or a 56% race of 200,000,000? A difference worth practically throwing your life into the shredder?

If you think so, you have the feeble and emotionally driven mind of a woman

Now obviously if we ALL refuse to have children it will have an impact, but there’s the rub. So in a way you’re entitled to hate me for potentially successfully discouraging other men from having kids, but not really for refusing to have them myself.

Many. You just have to be straight with them, ask them directly if they want to fuck. Many will slap you, but most will fuck

Each white dick counts. There's no wiggling yourself out of it, you can't have your cake and eat it, or, in christian terms, help yourself and god will help you

From a health standpoint, the sooner the better. From a financial standpoint, you probably should wait until you have a stable income.

That guy got cucked by his fake blonde wife. Are they even related or is it just actors?

A FUCKING LEAF

As soon as your dick pumps seed. Back in the day when men noticed their son staring at the girls and women. He would have his son married.

Men can wait till their 30s or even 40s. Women however need to start in their early 20s.

Any man who is not a complete and utter cuck will marry a woman who is at least 10 years younger.

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we know, since we are able to discern his ethnicity by the way he writes his sentences and lack of logic.

Father of a boy here. Would have had more children, but his mother became very ill and aren't likely to bear any more children (we lost another during her pregnancy to her illness).
My advice is to have a child only when you have grown past your youthful stupidity. By that I mean that you can't treat a relationship as something you replace the moment things get rough.
When you commit to becoming a family, you do it in good and bad days, regardless of you being married or not.
You need to be able to resolve conflicts and work together to build a home together. To be a better father than the one you had.

Your job from the point your first child is born, until the day you die, is to provide for your family. To make the tough the decisions, financially and otherwise.

That being said, money isn't everything. You having TIME to spend with your family is. Love your children. Love your spouse or girlfriend. Work on the relationship together and your kids will grow up being better people than you are.

t. 33 year old father.

Oh, and never make tough decisions in trying times. Wait out the storm.

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>the younger the better so you can get divorced earlier then do it all over again...breed goyim breeed!

>"enjoy yourself goy"
>get drunk and go to clubs every weekend goy, that's more important than family

Neck yourself, you should have kids at the earliest possible point when you are an adult and find a willing partner

>falling for the (((family)))meme
good goy

25-30 for men. Not older than 30 for women.

So women should be young and it's ok for them to have kids in their early 20s even. The men need to have some experience though as they are the authoritarian head of the family.

When you're ready, and not a moment before. Age is just a number. They tell you what you "should" be doing at your age to make you feel anxious and inadequate. Fuck 'em.

It's drastically harder to conceive after the woman is in her 30s

Kikes frightened white birth rates are steadily rising again, concentrated in conservative households across the globes, and their kike measures are no longer working.

Convert to christ you savages

Now

Fuck off /soc/

> 25-30 for men. Not older than 30 for women.
> So women should be young and it's ok for them to have kids in their early 20s even
Well spoken Kraut.

I'd say at whatever age you are to have your own home and support your own family, since if you can't do that you're too immature to have kids, but if you sit around in your own home saving money for no reason you're wasting the youth that could go into having non-autistic kids.

>Leaf
>Cuck
All checks out

Men at any age. Women no later than 21. Vid related.
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My grandma got married at 16 when my grandpa was 18. My mom started at 23 and my Dad was 26.

Nowadays it’s getting late cause people want to get as far ahead as possible in their career, my sister is 28 and doesn’t want to settle down until 30+.

It depends upon time & era but 30+ is too late and degenerate.

Is India going to hit German replacement rates soon? 0.6 children per couple

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No but replacement levels by 2021 under replacement by 2028-30, I think. Village people & Muslim’s still pop 4 kids and 2 of them dies probably.

you will have no energy for anything past 40
20 is the right answer
t. oldfag

>Any man who is not a complete and utter cuck will marry a woman who is at least 10 years younger
based af

I live my life based on this very line, I won't even talk to a girl that's less than 10 years younger than me, let alone put my dick into it.

Although I want to stop fucking around with young sluts (there's been lots) and start thinking about settling down soon, I'm almost 19 now

what the fuck do i know
i havet grown up still, probably never will
shit

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Men can start anytime with no problems as long as they're set up financially. Women on the other hand no later than early 30s.

Just had a conversation with a leaf woman in this hostel, you guys aren't gonna have a new generation, good fucking luck with the substitute drama teacher's newcomers while there are no tru Canadians to take them on.

>been dropping redpills in degeneracy central

>I wouldn’t talk to a girl ten years younger

>I’m almost 19

18 - 10 = 8

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That's true for most of life, but not bearing and delivering a child. Incidence of down syndrome goes from 1 in 1000-2000 (been a while since I saw the number) at 35 to 1 in 10 at 45 (mother's age). Having a first child later in life (after 30, and especially at 35 and later, which is considered advanced maternal age) multiplies risks for nearly all forms of birth complications and defects. Thinking you can have kids at whatever age you like without any repercussion is one of the really hard biological barriers that on-demand consumerism runs into.

Enjoy yourself !???
Are people still thinking like that on Jow Forums ?
What is there to enjoy you leafcunt ? Drinking ? Games ? Clubs ? Screw around ? Travels ?
All of this is bullshit and real joy comes from real things like having a family and fighting for your beliefs. How stupid can one be.

But what about Japan Nobita? Is the Govt doing something about it? Other than the “Lets go full automation now” — is the government doing anything to increase TFR?

You would think that but in SK, he is probably more sane and white than his fellows.

At this point they are just sitting there and watching things burn so no. Unfortunately Japan and SK will fall, but there might be hope for other countries in the west

it's called a joke. not sure if you have these in india

but conservative households are concentrating while the degens are getting weeded out of the gene pool. The Japanese have a culture of duty and obligation, they just need to make having a family part of that duty

>joke

start when your wife is in her early 20's.

Shlomo wants her to fuck for fun until she is mid-late 30's = fewer years of child-bearing and more likely to pump out defective units.

>starting a family
>2018

MGTOW ftw

More like you have to.
Unless you are an overachiever, most men only get into their groove in their 30s

>being this retard and thinking I’m ethnically japanese
>calling japanese people Nobita thinking they’d be triggered
>not understanding that the Japanese race is much less threatened than whites
>the jews meme’d you into thinking there are few babies in Japan when they have shit tons of them and that shrinking population is actually a good thing

if you male it does not matter.

For women early 20s, and for men anything upto 40

After living like what, 7 years there, I have to interject with doubt. Don't take me wrong, they are more based than the west but things just seem to be going down. In my workplace, we had very few women, because the majority of the engineers there were husbands with stay at home wives. I saw how those chaps would try to drink their sorrows away at the end of the day, and let me tell you that it wasn't a pretty sight. We were all on top of our lives in terms of quality of life from a monetary sense, but those guys used to come back home to suffer. Not only they didn't have kids, but their wives rode them hard, even worse than in the west. The few women in the workplace weren't better either; only like 3 were hot, and even they were desperate because at the time, the culture of regarding such old women (on their mid twenties) as "kurisumasu ke-kus" was at an all time high, and they usually found themselves with men who obviously were after quickies rather than actual relationships. They were very desperate and tried coming onto a few of us during work hours to no avail. I felt annoyed but pitied them for not having a family because of their lack of interest in their early life. Fast foward now, the number of women in such situations in Japan just goes up. Some guys here probably know just how easy it is to fuck a woman there even if you are a literal trashcan of a man, and that is because things REALLY have degenerated. The women get increasingly unhappier but won't reflect and start acting properly in their early life and the men just won't have anything more to do with that bullshit and started moving on to more fulfilling things. Depression is at an all time high, and so are suicides, all because they refuse to go back to traditional values. The degens are not being weeded out because some of those women end up as single moms and the government just swallows their bullshit and gives them gibs, creating more problems in the process.

yeah nothing like having more future degenerates and coalburners to bolster our ranks

M 28
F 22

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>covert and worship a jew you jew

>work your way up ladder. Kids in college by your mid-forties. retire in early sixties. spend rest of your life (20-30 years) in luxury with your wife and successful children.
boomer deteceted

>tranny porn

I bought my first house at 28 met my wife months after, she was 22, we got married 3 years later, and had kids 2 years after that. When I was 28th I made $80k a year, now I make $140k. Life is great. Focus on your career and buy a house on your own, it's literally building a nest to attract a mate ,it works ,especially to bring in a younger woman.

Men late 20s and women early 20s. I waited until 32 and now with 3 kids I feel old. Wife is 7 years younger so it's good on that end. But you can afford them, kids cost what you let them cost.

I was 33 and my wife was 24 when we had our first. Wife wanted to wait until she was 24 when we first met when she was 20.

As young as you comfortably and responsibly can. If you're in a healthy and stable relationship and willingly accept the responsibility then 20 - 25 sounds about right.

I was 35 which is far too old in retrospect.

At what point do we start genociding these incels?

I'm so glad I'm gay so I don't have to deal with this shit

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No. Just pop out the kids. You'll eventually earn more, or gubment will give you gibs. Pop out the kids! Pop 'em!

No, it isn't. If you havent started a family by 24, you fucked up. An older man with a younger woman is sort of okay. Women above thirty are deluded. All sort of autoimmune shit, cancer and autism come from older mothers. Older fathers are high risk as well, but ridiculously lower % compared to older mothers. Here the age of first pregnancy rose to 33 and the autism cases rose by 1200%. At least by our government report every 7 kid is born with autism and I'm sure that's the case with most european countries. The jews overplayed their hand, they wanted to cripple white nations, but with the women liberation bullshit they will annihilate them in our lifetime.

Women: married by 30 (you hit the wall at 30 and your SMV will start to decline)

Men: two strategies, depending on the hand you're delt. If you are born low status, spend your 20s improving your position and get married by 35, when your SMV is high, but you can still have kids without being a geriatric dad, and can still attract fertile women. If you start out high SMV, married in your 20s... have kids... then divorce when the last one is out the door. Then second wife by age 50.

Takbir!

Nope we’re designed to procreate in our twenties and early thirties. Proof is female fertility rates.

Because your aids will kill you soon

I'm not that kind of gay. I'm the other kind.

> How to give your kids a bad upbringing the guide.

he's right dumbass. good luck hastily marrying in your 20s, not enjoying life, not being financially stable, then getting divorced and paying child support for years and years

Slash Thread. The sooner the better. So much stuff is free nowadays that you don't need much money. Free entertainment, free schooling, free healthcare, free housing if you're low income.
As soon as you find a man or woman that you like you should have children.

Wait in this pop culture nightmare? That's laughable. I'm 30 but my fiance and mother of my children is 22. I can't speak for your location, but here in Murica, if you don't snag one out of the brainwash before college, you aren't getting one.

I married my wife when she was 16. she is 23 now and we have two beautiful children.
no regrets. this is how nature meant it to be.
she is a very good mother, very youthful, and a sort of daughter in a way.. (she calls me "daddy")

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having a family is cucked-only 50% of your genes will pass on and in 6 generations a small percentage will live on

Age is not just a number. When combined with info about your behavior, social life and psychological state it clearly indicates who you were, who you are and who you will be.
It shows how much you progressed, and how close/far you are from being a decent human being.
Before you say yolo, try to ask yourself: do I know what "pride" really is? Is there something in life more than just temporal enjoyment? Will I ever be honest to myself and see nihilism isn't a phylosophy, but a way of avoiding serious questions in life?

The age of immigrating to a first world country and finding a gf there.

The kikes want you to either wait too late or have unhealthy kids

By second generation that's like 75% of your genes, if you do it right.

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around 24-30 for men is best imo
for women its 22-28

Yes. Because American goyim are useless for the USA. Major contributions to the American wealth and influence were made by American Jews, e.g. Facebook, Google, Hollywood, Wall Street.