>biology has existed for approximately 4 billion years >from single celled organisms, evolved into multi-celled organisms with brains so sophisticated, even a cat's brain computes more per second than every single computer on Earth put together could >despite a dozen extinction events, life always continued existing to give rise to a diverse range of organisms
But no, let's design a society that caters more to political models, than human biological parameters. Clearly nature is wrong and our pitiful, short-lived culture is much smarter and better.
Let's focus on producing food that literally poisons our bodies in the long-term because bits of paper are more important than having optimal health.
Let's be the only species to have EVER existed to develop the means and risk to cause their own extinction, because random lines drawn on a map are more important than the survival of our species (which will go extinct while life will yet again survive after we nuke ourselves into oblivion)
Let's disrupt a cellular clock that is synchronized to sunlight, moonlight and the sounds of hundreds of different of animals twice a year so we use less lightbulbs, that are artificially engineered to stop working, so that its producers can gather more bits of paper, while we have the technology to make bulbs that can make them shine for hundreds of years
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If you want to engineer a society, look at nature. The brain is a massive computer our species will never even approach with our technology, the body is a fucking machine capable of endurance, strength and greatness that most people won't even approach 1% of in their lifetimes. Why the fuck not look at how they work and what they need and build a society to accommodate their needs? How stupid and mindless do you have to be to think that your pitiful culture knows better?
Even the visual area of the cat alone processes merely visual information at a greater rate and accuracy than any human produced AI can yet do.
And the human visual area even a shitload more than a cat's.
Nathan Myers
>evolved into multi-celled organisms with brains People being dumb enough to believe in evolution is pretty much the reason why we don't accomplish all the things you're rambling about.
A cat's brain being more complex than billions of guided man hours of ingenuity should make anyone realize the cat's brain is not part of a long string of accidents and the thought is absurdly laughable, but nope. You talk of catering to political models when you fail to realize evolution is basically a unquestionable religion.
Adam Ward
>biology >the science >of life studies >has existed >for billions of yrs
Brilliant! Pray continue, o learned one.
Michael Gray
Are you really so retarded to say unironically that evolution doesn't exist? Kek.
Brandon Turner
>let's design a society that caters more to political models, than human biological parameters Political models are based on human biological parameters. They serve the function of allowing the ones who control it to most efficiently reproduce and spread their genes.
To be fair, visual problems are extremely difficult for computers, because they ... well, they don't have eyes and they don't have instincts that have built based on eye-brain interaction for millions of years. Catching a ball is relatively easy for humans, but extremely difficult to explicitly calculate in time for a computer.
why stop there? Everything is determined, we can't do anything diffrent, it all started with the big bang, and will end the way it was always mean to be. We should be glad we aren't able to see the big picture, and feel ouer freedom because of ouer ignorance
Jayden Watson
>Everything is determined, we can't do anything diffrent, it all started with the big bang, and will end the way it was always mean to be Welcome to stoicism. Read the meditations by Aurelius.
>they don't have eyes and they don't have instincts that have built based on eye-brain interaction for millions of years
Exactly. We humans think we are brilliant and relative to most other species, we are, but we can't even begin to hope develop something as sophisticated a biotechnology that is the result of millions of generations that were selected upon. We might, if we base our society on it.
Clearly, it works, otherwise we wouldn't exist here to experience it.
Anthony Murphy
im interested in stoicism, mainly because of friends, but im just a pragmatist (philosophically speaking)
i do enjoy max stirner tho (no memes plz)
Chase Sanders
Computational models of the brain are woefully inadequate to the point of being useless. AI can replicate some of the brain's functions such s learning and producing an output in response to input. You might as well say that a cat is furrier than all the world's computers combined. Not shitting on your OP but the brain bit is meh
Oliver Kelly
"believing in evolution" is code for saying you believe complex life arose and developed all by chance, and yes anyone who believes that is a complete delusional moron.
I get that you people point to viruses and try to trick people into thinking it's evolution in the same degree as complex life developing... like the fact influenza's Hemagglutinin nodes mutate and thus avoid re-detection by our immune system and you call that "evolution" but never in a trillion trillion years in influenza's most immaculate trial-and-repeat cycle would those mutations ever make anything more complex than the junk which confuses our white blood cells. Evolutionists, aka liars, pretend that's the case and it's nothing but religious wishful thinking.
Kevin Anderson
"nothing" isn't a scientific concept, so i don't care for religious, philosophical or other interpretations of where we come from. It has no bareing on facts. Just belief
Jonathan Thomas
Survival of the fittest. The only reason you are alive is because youre useful as a slave.
Alexander Gomez
>Computational models of the brain are woefully inadequate to the point of being useless. >AI can replicate some of the brain's functions such s learning and producing an output in response to input.
Actually we are getting quite far. I wrote my thesis about the nature of geometric visual hallucinations and their relationship with the earliest forms of human decoration and art. We're starting to see models of visual field projections of intrinsic products of the architecture of the human visual area. Once we can project actual information from other than primary processing areas, we can start to at least reconstruct the human visual landscape.
Still doesn't account for qualia, the binding problem or the evolution of the earliest visual area architectures yet. And that's only the human visual area.
We'll destroy ourselves before we even get close to finding out that shit.
Liam Butler
i agree let’s kill all the blacks jews and spics and live in world peace
Elijah Kelly
Okay. You’re obviously a genius. Tell us what it takes to make the ideal society. I’m sure you would make for a great and wise dictator, faggot.
>producing foods that literally poisons our bodies Nobody forces anybody to eat this food. And the “poisoning,” has literally no impact until 30+ years into your life, which is an enormous lifespan compared to what humans had 100 years ago. Which is possible because of an excess of food nobody has to hunt and bear each other over the head with sticks for. >developing weapons is bad These weapons also happened to save countless human lives while people struggled to defend themselves from savage Zuluniggers and Ottomanfags. You want to talk about te base human and how great it is? One of the aspects of that is self preservation. >muh lightbulbs Resources are finite. Human desires are endless. If you can afford you SuperBulbs(tm) then go buy them. Everyone else on the planet is comfortable replacing a lightbulb or two every five years. >If you want to engineer a society— I ask again, how would UltimaDictator user engineer the perfect society? I can guarantee that you’ll make an absolute fool of yourself trying to answer this question because no man alive has the knowledge or power. You’re an empty voice. If you’re so great, run for government and make some real changes instead of acting like an intellectual on Jow Forums.
Christian Brooks
>The brain is a massive computer our species will never even approach with our technology Not in our life time. But in 2012 we were able to simulate a sand grain sized slice piece of a rat's brain with good accuracy. >nature.com/news/fragment-of-rat-brain-simulated-in-supercomputer-1.18536 It'll get there eventually.
Blake Wood
>that are artificially engineered to stop working Enough with this autism. Literally no one could stop people from learning engineering and creating their own light bulbs to last forever. With LEDs you can build your own personalized illumination systems that consume almost nothing and last for years and years.
Pic related is my freezer model. We bought it 13 years ago, never ever did a service to it. Still working great. Not everything is "programmed obsolescence"
