Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
Um hello I have some questions is jeremy corbyn a good or bad politician ?
Oliver Sanders
Only sub 90 IQ retards think communism is feasable. It goes directly against human nature and at best you are a tool of kikes if you go commie
Easton Ross
this looked like a sincere question so as a communist I'll answer: no, soc dems are not good politicians, socialists tend to hate soc dems and that includes Jeremy Corbyn.
I'd really like to know who makes these threads. Do you suppose someone has a bot that makes them at 12 hour intervals or something like that? I don't know why an actual human would even bother.
Look at the people supporting communism and similar far leftist ideologies. All of them borderline mental retardation or edgy teens. They can glue together two coherent sentence.
It is so easy to overtake a socialist movement made out of these avg 80IQ retards. Every time someone does it and gets wealthy on the back of their stupidity " It wasnt real communism doh"
No shit retard, maybe have a society capable of producing an intelligent person who wont abuse the system. Problem is anyone with a pinch of common sense wont believe in communism so you are fucked from the get go
Why would I waste my time explaining the world to a brainlet? You too stupid to understand what you just asked me to do. Protip, you should read source material and come to your own conclusions about the world.
why? what makes you hate communism so much? do you even know what it is?
Adam Clark
The video clearly explains that. But you ignore it out of convenience. It explains all the problems in Venezuela. So the question still stands: It obviously is a socialist fail state, so why would it not be a socialist hell hole.
False equivalence. Owning an iPhone is not necessary for participating in society. Hell, even owning a car is not necessary for participating in society.
Carter Myers
>non answer superb. still waiting on someone to explain how Venezuela is socialist.
>It explains all the problems in Venezuela. we were not talking about "the problems in Venezuela", I couldn't possibly give a fuck about that. I asked a simple question, that nobody has answered in like 50 posts: how is Venezuela a socialist country?
Asher Cook
>they call themselves socialist, therefore they are! that's not an explanation. explain to me how Venezuela is socialist. this should be very easy, but it's been like 50 post already and none of you have answered me.
I guess it just goes to show the average IQ of right wingers lmao
Cameron Torres
youtube.com/watch?v=fRt9x2NDSAU >inb4 >Sargon of Cukkad Valid points are made, watch the video without dismissing it outright.
because there was private ownership of a oil company and now there is collective ownership of that same oil company and the private owners did not agree to this any more questions?
>Gun free zones everywhere. >Guns everywhere. >Socialist housing controlled the government. >Forced relocation. >A collapsing monetairy system. >No free markets. >The government claims private property. >Any residual government funds are deployed to uphold silly laws like their failing gunpolicy.
It is socialism on steroids.But you are willing to look at it. It could be investigated with one Google search. Do you think you have a relevant question anyway?
I inverted that question, Backed it with an investigation. You ignored both. Delving any further into your question is irrelevant.
>the government owns one company woah, how could I be so blind. ofcourse it's socialism, despite the country being literally capitalistic since there's private property of the means of production and wage labour.
literally none of those bulletpoints are the definition of socialism. except for the one that says "The government claims private property", which is largelly false since there's private property of the means of production.
Noah Wilson
They seized oil rigs and privately owned companies after the revolution to redistribute wealth to “the people”. 19 years later they are bankrupt. How isn’t that socialism
Kevin Butler
Yes they do. You are just uneducated about the subject. Your stupid questions clearly show that.
it's not that my mind is made up or that I'm arrogant. Venezuela doesn't fit the literal dictionary definition of socialism, so I wanted to see how you could justify calling it socialist.
>Gun free zones everywhere. >Guns everywhere. >Socialist housing controlled the government. >Forced relocation. >A collapsing monetairy system. >No free markets. >The government claims private property. >Any residual government funds are deployed to uphold silly laws like their failing gunpolicy.
It is socialism on steroids.But you are willing to look at it. It could be investigated with one Google search. Do you think you have a relevant question anyway?
I inverted that question, Backed it with an investigation. You ignored both. Delving any further into your question is irrelevant."
You are not one of the brightest, aren't you?
Chase Gonzalez
Thats what im talking about, criteria of emerging communist power:
- stupid enough society ( Latinos, African Niggers) - both sub 85-80 avg IQ
-No recent experience with the sheer stupidity of an implemented communist system
Im glad my grandparents lived through it to tell me about it, you latin idiots are fucking doomed, but I guess gotta learn on your own skin before you get immune to this mental illness.
>repeats an entire post >calls me "not one of the brightest" lmao, read the definition of socialism before you can call anyone uneducated.
it's not my criteria, it's the literal dictionary definition of socialism. and no the USSR doesn't it either, that's why many socialists hate Leninism-Stalinism, and why Leon Trotsky was so critical of them and they killed him. but I doubt that someone so indoctrinated into capitalism like you would even want to talk about it since you're going to greentext "not real socialism lmao" or something.
>despite the country being literally capitalistic since there's private property of the means of production and wage labour not for the private oil comnpany explain that one
for the not true scotman fallacy to be applicable here, Venezuela should fall under the literal dictionary definition of socialism. but it doesn't. you can't be this dumb, seriously.
I'm gonna explain 2 things. socialism isn't "the state does something lmao", it's "the means of production are owned collectively by the entire community", that means there's no private property of the means of production. if there is (which in Venezuela there is), then the country is not socialist. but even in the case of the oil company, it belongs to the state, not the people, since it's a representative republic and not a democracy, but I won't even fight you on that one because I don't have to go that deep, since there literally exists private property, therefore making Venezuela not fit the definition of socialism.
Carson Robinson
Go ahead and triple down on the no true Scotsman argument. You're too dumb to understand anything that you're saying.
in the no true scotman fallacy example, the scotman falls under the literal definition of scotman, and the person uses something else as an excuse to explain why he's not a scotman. in this case Venezuela literally doesn't fit the definition of socialism.
it's not my fault that you're mentally challenged. I'm sorry for whomever takes care of you.
Tyler Howard
Social values are social values. This is socialistic dogma that you see in the EU, US and Venezuela. Willingly dumb would be better to describe you.
dude i am a commie myself you are not forced to eat the shitty food at mc donald lol.
Luke Anderson
That's how socialism always ends up though, kinda like communism. All we hear is one more idiot who claims the right kind of socialism hasn't just been implemented yet.
Parker Fisher
Are you dense ? Doesnt matter if it does not fit the exact definition, once someone takes over your stupid commie movement they can do whatever they want. You can't deny the fact that avg venezuelans are commies and voted for commies.
Noah Richardson
>I don't care about the definitions, things are what I say they are oh so you're actually retarded. I'm sorry, I won't reply to you anymore.
