DRUMPF CAN'T WIN 2020

Reasons:
>Drumpf's approval is down
>regardless of his approval, the rust belt is becoming far more democratic
>Drumpf has scandal after scandal
>Drumpf is angering his core base because he still hasn't built the wall or fulfilled any major promises
>independents are seeing Drumpf as the buffoon he truly is
>Democrats will be far, far more energized then republicans in 2020

It's over.

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morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/
youtu.be/cL08sbhHzRA
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico–United_States_barrier
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5964.html
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6008.html
npr.org/2016/11/14/502014643/4-possible-reasons-the-polls-got-it-so-wrong-this-year
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/pa/pennsylvania_senate_barletta_vs_casey-6312.html
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/mi/michigan_senate_james_vs_stabenow-6325.html
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/governor/mi/michigan_governor_schuette_vs_whitmer-6441.html
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/governor/wi/wisconsin_governor_walker_vs_evers-6606.html
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/wi/wisconsin_senate_vukmir_vs_baldwin-6313.html
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/mn/minnesota_senate_special_election_housley_vs_smith-6303.html
politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/the-worst-political-predictions-of-2016-214555
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_clinton-5659.html
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>texas
>red

I know I've heard this before, I just can't think of when...

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there is no blue wave
your going to end up killing yourselves out of depression once you realize how wrong youve been

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All signs point to it being true. I can't help but notice you fags have no rebuttals for any of my points.

I wonder if we ever return to civil discussion about politics. While it's clear victory in mid-terms is by no means assured, I think it's a bit too early to make projections for 2020 because Democrats are still in disarray, oscillating between extreme left and centre-left policies while unable to come to an agreement how to handle identity politics.

The claim that Trump's approval ratings are going down is untrue because it's been on the increase after a series of bold moves, particularly in his dealings with North Korea and while it's difficult to substantiate the claim the Rust Belt is becoming more democratic, it needs to be noted that republican voters have been more active too and it's unlikely to offset mobilisation of the democratic electorate and further, after endorsement by several celebrities, a large chunk of dem voters is increasingly supportive of republicans.
I agree somewhat lack of wall and other missed deliverables are a concern, but Trump voter base remains unaffected by this and there have been numerous articles regarding the subject. The general conclusion is that for most republican voters democratic policies and rhetoric are unacceptable and between less delivered by Trump and anything Democrats have to offer, it is Trump who comes out on top.
The largest challenges for the Democrats is to find a way to appeal to voters the seem to resent and analyse their mistakes, although it seems like an unattainable objectives as any motion towards bipartisan cooperation provokes open hostility.
OP's post is peppered with opinions rather than facts, but I think it's fairly clear how the events will unfold is anyone's guess.

your very first point is wrong, why do I need to rebut your brainlet reasoning? You don't know anything, other than how to memepost. Now, go back to your discord and get some new marching orders, you loathsome nigger

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>>Drumpf's approval is down
trusting polls in 2018
>>regardless of his approval, the rust belt is becoming far more democratic
Nice empty talking point
>Drumpf has scandal after scandal
implying obama didn't, also implying you can name one
>Drumpf is angering his core base because he still hasn't built the wall or fulfilled any major promises
No he isn't. Cuck
>independents are seeing Drumpf as the buffoon he truly is
yeah, are they?
>Democrats will be far, far more energized then republicans in 2020
I am shaking in my boots at the thought of them running hillary again
or cuck sanders. Wow such a threat.

Superb quality thread, to be desu

>It's over.
It is. No reason for democrats to go vote because you already won, it is going to be great.

Trump will win 2020 and the ANTIFAggots will start the 3rd Civil War. My body is ready, is yours?

unfortunetly the media has riled up democrats so much so that they’re probably gonna vote in droves this November and in 2020. We are literally never going to have a republican in office ever again. They’re gonna do a complete 180 on everything trump has done. They’re going to flood the country with brown people and ban all guns.

>third civil war
>third
user I have bad news for you.
You're in the wrong time line again

>they’re probably gonna vote in droves this November and in 2020
It's going to be an exact repeat of 2016
the news is going to say, nonstop, that le drumfy is hitler and wants to gas the jews, his "approval rating" will go in the toilet, and some democrap will have a 99% chance of victory on election night, only to get literally raped.

>What was the Revolution
Dumb faggot Americans fought each other then as well

>ANTIFAggots will start the 3rd Civil War

With what weaponry? Don't worry. Not gonna happen. Those aren't exactly warriors.

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Go check rcp, idiot. His approval is tanking.

>trusting polls in 2018
D-don't trust math, guys! R-really. Muh feels are what counts! The polls were accurate in 2016 btw, which is why Drumpf lost the popular vote.

>loyalists are americans

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>rebutting a retards unsubstantiated claims
"No."

The revolution was not a civil war because the USA did not exist yet. You might say british civil war.

You were saying?

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We've been inching towards another Civil War since the 50's

>The polls were accurate in 2016 btw
No, they relied on HRC getting Obama-tier turnout

>trump's approval is low
Trump's approval is at an all time high you brainless welfare nigger.

Aaannndd of course it's a canadadian

>to be desu
i like that

hillary was the projected winner in several states that turned out to be trump states

tell me more about how your 2016 polls were accurate, faggot.

one of the biggest reasons for the mueller sham (muh russian collusion!) being pulled off on the american people is because all the polls were wrong and you whiny faggots were frothing at the mouth

the democrats basically heard "russians hacked the voting machines" when it was announced that they were somehow able to hack public opinion

if your predictions don't come true, will you at least man up and kill yourself for not getting your way this time?

Burger, you don't live in a democracy.
Your agent of deep state (Sanders) decided to run as indipendent.

Who will vote him? Republicans? Or pseudocialist and minorities.

The votes for democrats will be split.
Resulting in Trump winning.

(this supposing that the number of votes are not just made up)

You really think that the deep state (bunch of whites and jews) will allow socialist or people skeptic about israel to let you ram your boat.

You understimate the evilness of your own "country" (more like a criminal organization)

>outliers
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5952.html

The downward spike is already starting. That ABC poll that just came out is only the beginning.

wow libtard. you're very good at photoshop.

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>mfw the Russian hackers on steroids meme is actually true
>mfw no matter what happens from now on the Russians will just rig everything so the Democrats lose and the Republican Congress and White House will just cover it up and no-one will ever have any proof that it's all rigged
>white voters will all know the truth, but will go around smugly and innocently pretending not to
>any Jews or coloreds that ask too many questions will be sent to the bottom of the nearest deep body of water by their local friendly law enforcement

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>The revolution was not a civil war because the USA did not exist yet.
Pic related, the Revolution would not have happened if we didn't already have a unique sense of identity. Our Colonial ancestors are some of the most American people since it's their culture that we carry on and their ideas that gave birth to the Republic. Learn your own history

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Hey fucktard look whose president.
Your dumb cunt lost.
Kill yourself.

No historian would refer to the revolution as a civil war amongst americans.
It was a war between america and the british empire, thus not being a civil war either way you slice it.

>We've been inching towards another Civil War since the 50's

This would probably be the first war, where you can slap the enemy into submission. Or drop some poison laced dildos over the enemy and its done.

A temporary setback. Will you faggots kill yourselves when Texas is finally blue?

All were within the margins of error.

Only if you suck a shotgun when New York goes red

>No historian would refer to the revolution as a civil war amongst americans.
Nice appeal to authority but again you're wrong. It's not framed that way because we won. Many people were loyal to the Crown
>It was a war between america and the british empire, thus not being a civil war either way you slice it
No it was a war that literally pit brother against brother and neighbour against neighbour. Do you think everyone here was on board with revolting? It isn't regarded as a Civil War because saying so would be distasteful

i didn't know it was possible to really think that.

with nearly all of them projecting that hillary would win, how do you find space in your tiny mind to think that? i supposed you're just a bad combo of willfully ignorant and retarded

> Drumpf has scandal after scandal
rofl @ stormy daniels and the like. kys

> Drumpf is angering his core base because he still hasn't built the wall or fulfilled any major promises

magapill.com/ has quite a long list of accomplishments that you undoubtedly won't read because your candidate lost and you're still crying about it like a little girl

> independents are seeing Drumpf as the buffoon he truly is

proof or it didn't happen *waits for you to link to fox, CNN, or some other shitty news source*

> Democrats will be far, far more energized then republicans in 2020

energized? we love your half-hearted enthusiasm. can't wait to be beaten by such high energy (LOL)

It kind of was a civil war, though. Because there were Americans on both sides (before American independence, "American" naturally didn't designate a nationality in the way it does now, exactly, it just meant a native of the American colonies regardless whether you had seperatist tendencies or not).

Obviously after the war, everything changed, but most colonists before the war even including many people born in America who fought on the side of the Revolution had earlier in their lives considered themselves both Englishmen and Americans.

if you think his approval is down from when he was elected you're living in a bubble.

99.9% of civil wars are because of an incumbent government doesnt recognize the sudden existence of another sovereign state within its borders. Still falls in the mumbo jumbo of semantics.

It isn't one for the same reason the napoleonic conflict wasn't the first world war.
Because words have meaning

>Georgia
>blue

can't wait to see the daily show style libfag opinion piece that this "energized" invalid used to corroborate his low brow opinions

IMHO, if anything we should refer to the "traditional civil war 1.0" as the "revolution 2.0" that happened to fail, rather than referring to the "revolution" as the "first civil war"

Indiana, and Iowa...... Democratic the fuck kind of drugs are you one OP?

>5 posts by this ID
its a shame when shills cant even 1 post by ID

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>Arizona is a blue state

This is how true balance is restored to the universe.

>mormons are a red state

Really makes me think.

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probably some cuck who went to iowa state and thought the whole state was filled with niggers like that

>when New York goes red
lmao. At least texas flipping is remotely possible in a few election cycles.

Check the poll aggregates for the swing states and get back to me.

morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/
OH NO NO NO NO

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>First World War
Framed that way to appeal to a unified sense of Globalism, same reason that WWII and WWIII were/will be named such. The American Revolution was as much a civil war as the French Revolution was

Why the fuck would democraps want to ruin arizona?

I don't like this redpill

>unfortunetly the media has riled up democrats
How? You mean by actually reporting on the things Trump says and does? Like 3,000 dead Puerto Ricans and hiring THE BEST felons?

why are you telling me to check them when you could've linked them yourself?

typical lazy/retarded liberal arguing tactic:
"google my claims and then come talk to me"

how lazy are you, faggot? if it's so easy to google it, why can't you just provide your own evidence?

KILL yourself

You're right when you say words have meaning, "revolution" means "turning point". The Republic was certainly a turning point, but one brought about through Civil War which is why it must be cherished and jealously guarded

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Democrats will never win Georgia. It's a bad meme.

Ill move there to help stop them. They aint taking one of my fellow southern states

>Trump's approval is down
Trump's approval is on an all-time high, higher even than Obama's at this time in his first period.

>rust belt is becoming far more dem
Had a look outside your door in the last couple months?

>scandal after scandal
And every last one of them is being debunked in the end. Nobody keeps having the CNN rambles anymore, their viewer numbers keep on falling.

>still hasn't built the wall or kept an other major promise
youserious.gif
youtu.be/cL08sbhHzRA (4 months ago)
>On June 3, 2018 the San Diego section of the US border wall construction began.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico–United_States_barrier

I'll ignore the last two vague accusations that lack any sort of evidence or even a source.

What points faggot? A self filled out poll?

>can't argue against my fantasies
>forgot about 2016 already

Is summer over yet?

silent majority is a bitch lol

This limey gets it

if gillibrand wins or lose, all he has to do is run on the R word, reparations and blacks will come out and vote for him in masse. Trumps problem is that he thinks all people want are tax cuts and jobs, but people also want other social policies put in place. Like healthcare education and other issues which he hasnt done a good job on articulating.
And its really up to the republicans to see who gets to dictate what social policies get implemented and how they get implemented.

fixing student loan and justice reform/marijuana would ensure trump to win 2020 but he hasnt touched that shit at all. Sigh the republicans keep making the same mistake over and over again

>this bait

you can't be serious, I'm not falling for this bait, you nigger.

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You are 100% Mexican

Mexican

We’re truly fucked

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We live in a Constitutional Republic, potato nigger.

Worst Korea is right for once

Cause we have nuclear, hydro, solar energy that they steal. And they want us to pay more so they get it cheaper with their 2040 green energy shit.

Are you the faggot who came here every day saying there was no way Hillary would lose?
MAGA! TRUMP 2020 VICTORY CONFIRMED!

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what about what i called you out on, retard?

They're easy as fuck to find. I guess I should have known better than to think hillbilly drumpftards could type a few words into their search bars.

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/pa/pennsylvania_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-5964.html

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_stein-6008.html

>Trump's approval is on an all-time high, higher even than Obama's at this time in his first period
Look at it now. It's beginning to tank.

>Had a look outside your door in the last couple months?
Have you seen literally all signs pointing to the rust belt going blue as soon as this year's election?

Trump doesn't know how to lose. I fucking love that man so much, his humor is so underappreaciated. He's a huge tactician, and he's blurting out his tactics right into their faces, but still they don't have a clue to what he's doing until it's too late. It's like he got bored of being a billionaire, then settled on messing with the government. He beat the best politicians, who had the best connections. He simply cannot lose unless he wants to.

> D-don't trust math, guys! R-really. Muh feels are what counts! The polls were accurate in 2016 btw, which is why Drumpf lost the popular vote.

> Check the poll aggregates for the swing states and get back to me.

npr.org/2016/11/14/502014643/4-possible-reasons-the-polls-got-it-so-wrong-this-year

fine. i'll concede that some of the swing state polls were SOMEWHAT accurate. glad you (unlike nearly every other liberal) at least tried to bring something to the table.

here's the thing though, you actually said this:

> The polls were accurate in 2016 btw, which is why Drumpf lost the popular vote.

no. no they weren't. fuck off, with your mental gymnastics, retard.

looks like i win. die faggot

WRONG, Drumpfag. The result was just one point off of the polls for the popular vote.

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

if trump gets as little as 10 percent more support from blacks the democrats will have trouble picking up any states outside of ny, ca, and il.

losing energy over a butthurt democrat shill who prolly cries every day since elections. ignore this retarded shill thread. sage.

>the rust belt is becoming far more democratic

[citation needed]

If anything, Dems have just doubled down on the anti-white rhetoric that cost them the rust belt in 2016. And they continue to ignore the economy and jobs in favor of identity politics (or even worse, actually WISHING for a recession if it means it would fuck Trump over, never mind the millions of Americans it would also screw in the process).

It's a good thing too, because R's need the midwest and northeast thanks to shifting demographics in TX and FL.

Indiana blue? Not a fucking chance.

Citations are all the governor and senate races in the rust belt that are massive leads for the democrats.

Could you share the sources you are referring to please?

Pennsylvania:
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/pa/pennsylvania_senate_barletta_vs_casey-6312.html

Michigan:
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/mi/michigan_senate_james_vs_stabenow-6325.html

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/governor/mi/michigan_governor_schuette_vs_whitmer-6441.html

Wisconsin:
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/governor/wi/wisconsin_governor_walker_vs_evers-6606.html

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/wi/wisconsin_senate_vukmir_vs_baldwin-6313.html

Minnesota:
realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/mn/minnesota_senate_special_election_housley_vs_smith-6303.html

A lot of these are even bigger leads then Clinton ever had during all 2016 election polling. Even if they're slightly bias towards the Dems they're still obviously moving blue.

Meanwhile in reality Trump's approval is even higher than when he won in 2016. He's going to win 2020 by an even higher margin.

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Trump is literally as popular as Obama, who had two terms easily.

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Oh god you idiots never learn. Just like all the rust belt polls that said Hillary would win.

The most they ever flipped was by 6 points. Do you really think these polls will be off by 15 or even 10?

>realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

were you even alive during the election? all of the major news networks were saying hillary was going to win.

(pic related) was going on everywhere. nobody knew trump would win. just stop. the polls were inaccurate.

> The result was just one point off of the polls for the POPULAR VOTE.

you said that the POLLS WERE ACCURATE, not just poles regarding the POPULAR VOTE. even then, you're wrong. you fucking chimp. stop moving the goalposts.


related links:

politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/the-worst-political-predictions-of-2016-214555

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LOL you're an idiot

Here's Wisconsin where they were off by 7.2 points on average and 8.7 points in the most inaccurate poll

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_clinton-5659.html

Midterm election polls are historically inaccurate prior to September. A lot dont really coalesce until October even.

Don't liberals understand this approach is what lead them to lose the election? Telling Republicans they will lose and laugh in their face only gets them to go out and vote.

By all means keep rallying my people for me. It works so much better coming from an enemy. Hatred pushes people to act. Stupid liberals.

Wow so that one state flipped and still by not nearly as much as the current leads. Remind me why I should believe the dems aren't winning the rust belt again?

>Wow so that one state flipped and still by not nearly as much as the current leads.

if you aren't a dishonest person, you'll at least finally admit that what you were saying about the polls being accurate was extremely retarded.

> Remind me why I should believe the dems aren't winning the rust belt again?

remind me of why the left has for some reason, officially won over the swing states that voted for trump during the election. what measuring stick are you using to determine that? the measuring stick that you faggots used to predict the winner of the last election?

"muh russia. muh russia"

take a long hard look at what you are, come to terms with it and off yourself with a shotgun

LOL do you think people aren't even going to notice your lies?

Look at the Wisconsin polls you posted, if it flips by 8.7 Republicans win all of them.

quiet chinese bot

Where the fuck are you pulling this 8.7 shit from? One poll? The average was 6.5, and sure that's enough to flip the wisconsin races but not any of the others by a long shot.