Why is Jow Forums okay with giving welfare to billionaires but not poor citizens?

Here's not wrong here though. Anyone that wants that kike Bezos to keep receiving tax cuts is a cuck.

Its not the employer's fault their employees go on welfare

Also in my state (Illinois) the average household income is $60k/yr. So assuming both people work at amazon (and ignoring overtime) they're making $56k per year together, just under average. You can get by in Chicago with that much money, its even easier if you live somewhere rural where a 1 bedroom isnt >$1100 per month.

Never said that. I'm just saying Amazon is jewing everyone with how much unfair tax breaks they get.

he should keep receiving tax cut, as well as his competitors
if amazon it's a natural monopoly, then why should you punish his success?

>Amazon is jewing everyone
No the Feds are

you own a mansiom Bernie, not a mc mansion but an actual mansion, shut up

What a pathetic argument.

I can't believe that the employees are being held to work there at gunpoint... they all could get better paying jobs that match their skills somewhere else if this was true! Bernie made over a million the last two years and is a 1%er now. He needs to give his money away, he needs to pay his fair share.

15 dollars translates to roughly 12 euros. 12 euros is a pretty standard wage around here, one which you can easily live with, although will be tough for single parent with multiple children. And Finland is one of the most expensive countries in EU thanks to our high tax rate. So what is the US excuse for higher cost of living despite having less taxes?

does bernie know trump agrees?
does anyone following him know most people on the right agree?

Yes retard we voted to get corporate tax cuts and support a fucking billionaire

The problem with this argument is it implicitly assumes that Jeff Bezos would not be able to pay such low wages if it were not for those welfare programs. That is not the case. People worked for even lower wages long before we put those social safety nets in place.

Kvetchmarks are a sign of who to round up and gas.

Way Amazon currently operates, they "hire" tons of people in the area, then stop scheduling hours after 3 months so they don't have to start paying benefits, but still long enough to say, "Look! We're singlehandedly solving unemployment!" despite laying off more people than ever, & leaving thousands every month out of work.

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not an argument

>they aren't exercising their right to starve wow what morons

Millennials would rather spend $1200 a month on rent than pay $400 a month for mortgage payment. Whose fault is that?

You dont have to work at amazon
I dont

If he become a NATSOC it would be such a legend, but he choice to be a cuck, sad !

>If he become a NATSOC it would be such a legend,
why would he hes a kike

>government: if you have fulltime employment, you have to give them X or we'll arrest you
>company: ok, fine, we won't give them fulltime employment then
>you: REEEEEEEEEEEE

>US minimum wage that still does not sustain workers: 15 dollars.
>Finnish minimum wage that sustains workers, allows them to save money and get a mortgage for a house, or to build a house of their own: 11.60 dollars.
>Finns pay more taxes by percentage to fund free education and healthcare.
Something is deeply rotten with the system of burgers.

One of the best guy of your administration is a kike disavoid from is family (Stephen Miller), so why not.

They can only do that for so long until they run out of people to do that to. Not like people will quit their job to go to Amazon.

Or we could automate 80% of those jobs, and rely on fewer, higher paid positions.

And he look like Goebbels.

>$10,833,33

Bernie Sanders doesn't understand commas, that explains a lot about his budget plans.

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They still pay enough in taxes that their employees can go on welfare so what's the problem? Making them pay more taxes wouldn't make their employees'' labor more valuable.

Why should you keep giving him subsidies when he's guaranteed business and customers? The point of the subsidy is to help a company stay in business and expand, isn't it? Why should a company that has created the most wealthy person in history be given financial assistance?

Get a new job retard.

and if we divided that up among Amazon's 566,000 employees (as of 2017), they would get a $0.02/hr raise.

Also, the obvious answer is that we get rid of welfare, Medicade, and public housing.

Also, $15/hr is supposed to be a livable wage according to these retards. So $1.33 less is poverty?

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>US 56% white
>WHY IS US UNABLE TO FUNCTION LIKE MY COUNTRY???

Don’t be mean to Amazon, they dindu nuffin.

>the Jew cries in pain as he whips you

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I'm pretty sure the consensus around here is that legal immigration needs to at the very least be dramatically curtailed, which should bring up the wages of our citizens.

>WHY IS US UNABLE TO FUNCTION LIKE MY COUNTRY???
Just goes to show Finland is superior country with superior people living in it.

>why do anything? there will always be a need to do more

Most people are under the delusion that the 'people' are the primary taxpayers. They are not.

In reality, despite all the tax evasion, the rich pay the majority of taxes. The middle class isn't subsidizing low income workers, the rich is.
Corporate welfare doesn't exist, because the corporations inevitably pay far more taxes than they indirectly benefit from.

The US will go instantly into a budget surplus if niggers are kicked out. The companies are already paying a lot, its just the US has 10% of the population that never pays taxes.

>In reality, despite all the tax evasion, the rich pay the majority of taxes.
Maybe in Kangarooland but not here.

>Finns pay money for free education and healthcare
sounds like that education was worth the price

We have more illegals sucking off of welfare than there are people in Finland.

the median amazon salary is actually that of a tier 3 worker. (first level of management and skilled workers in amazon lingo) which depending on exact site you work at is in the 30k's. SNAP is also based upon how many dependents you have (children and full grown tards) so its impossible for Amazon to magically pay you enough money in which you wouldn't qualify for SNAP.

the entry level jobs suck ass but guess what its better than Walmart, Fedex, UPS, retail, etc otherwise they wouldn't have left those jobs to work for Amazon.

t. amazon worker shilling on my day off.

>pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/10/06/a-closer-look-at-who-does-and-doesnt-pay-u-s-income-tax/
The top 5% pay like 70% of the taxes in the US, its pretty much universal in any rich country.

I don't give a shit how much Bezos makes, or what his employees make. I do care that Amazon manages to screw with their books and their expenses enough to pay net $0 corporate income tax in the US. It's not so much corporate welfare as it is them being REALLY FUCKING GOOD at gaming the system.

Why does everyone always bark up Amazon's tree when UPS is even shittier.

Its because Amazon literally doesn't make much of a profit (at least up until AWS became big).
Still, Amazon pays a ton in indirect taxes, think of the massive amount of employees, delivery services they use, think of the warehouse construction and database investment they make.
Most countries would dream to have a company like Amazon, paying taxes or not.

>tax cuts
>subsidies
so this is the power of american education

it's not gaming the system. Amazon retail has never been a profitable venture, its a money sink that is slowly getting more efficient year by year. Besides corporate tax is just an additional tax levied for double taxation because the government can get away with it.

fortune.com/2017/07/16/amazon-postal-service-subsidy/
So this is the power of South American non-education.

Because a majority of Amazons workers are contracted hires. You can't mediate sub-contracted work along with your own employees who make different rates depending on location.

>"in fact, two-thirds of the nearly 66 million returns filed by people in that lowest income tier owed no tax at all."
Thats the US problem. In Finland everyone pays taxes, poor included, slice of their welfare and earning go to taxes automatically.
And burgers think its okay to go bankrupt if you get ill, or pay money for expensive insurances instead of a tiny percentage increase in tax.

The article itself even points out many issues with that analysis.
USPS does not receive tax revenue, thus there is no taxpayer subsidy. Amazon is just a typical large customer: it gets to pressure supplier prices.

>184287469
this confuses me too

Once again
>taking less of their money is gibs

boomers

12 euros is like 10 quid. Thats a really high pay for a job any retard can do.
We give £7.60 or just under $10 an hour

>. In Finland everyone pays taxes, poor included, slice of their welfare and earning go to taxes automatically.
Meaningless, since the rich both earn far more, and also pay a far higher proportion of their income in taxes, the compound effect is that the rich pay probably 100 times more taxes than the poor.
You should read a bit more to understand your own country Mr Perkele.

High cost of living comes from taxes, limited housing, inflation, and gentrification.

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We are the master race!

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Bernie and Trump both hate faggot Bezos, for different reasons.

I'm aware that it's a double tax; it just pisses me off that MY company profited $2 million last year and had to fork over $1.2 between state and federal taxes, while Amazon doesn't.
And Amazon retail absolutely IS profitable, it's just at a narrow margin, but the volume they deal in is absurd.

>In Finland everyone pays taxes, poor included, slice of their welfare and earning go to taxes automatically.

That is so fucked up, and the fact that you don't see why is proof that all Euro-cuck nords are brainwashed.

>Government taxes income
>Redistributes portion of taxes as welfare
>Government taxes welfare income
>Redistributes portion of welfare tax as welfare income
>Government taxes welfare income redistribution provided by taxes of welfare income
>Redistributes portion of welfare income redistribution provided by taxes of welfare income as welfare income
>......
>.................

Fucking brainlet, no wonder your country is ruled by childless divorced 50 year old women who cry when they hear about criminals going to jail.

Get a fucking grip on your country you disgusting tatar rape child.

>limited housing, inflation, and gentrification
So basically a huge housing problem then. Would housing be cheaper in the US, that minimum wage would be enough for decades to come.

Yes there is and it's called the Democratic party.

I'm not ok with that. That being said, Bezos doesn't make $10k/hr, that's his stock value increasing which is basically Monopoly money.

I don't believe in any welfare.

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Wtf I love Bolshevik Bernie now

not sure about worldwide operations but this isn't true in the USA. The only major contract work is for cleaning services and physical building maintenance. As the Amazon physical network continues to grow conversely does use of temp workers.

Finland, Finland, Finland the place where I'd like to be.
Eating lunch in the hall.
Or just watching T.V.

>a tax cut is a subsidy
so this is the power of la educación goblina

>Fucking brainlet, no wonder your country is ruled by childless divorced 50 year old women who cry when they hear about criminals going to jail.
Thats rich,a leaf with a rich feminist as their lead is trying to give Finland shit about standards of living. Unlike Canadacucks who suck the cocks of the french, Finland has a strong sense of unity and nationality. Men are real men here, they serve in the army. And paying taxes is considered a similar kind of responsibility, which is why everyone does it, even the poor. And still we manage to have less homeless, less poverty, less problems in healthcare and education and less SJWs here than in Canada.

I'm beginning to think Canada is to the US and Alaska what Sweden is to other nordic countries, an embarrassment and an example of how feminists ruin everything.

the only people who went bankrupt were people who were broke anyway. There'e almost no cost for those people to go bankrupt; all it does is shit on your credit rating for 7 years. Meanwhile, that "expensive" insurance is (or was, until the ACA) so inexpensive that the vast majority of Americans easily could afford it. It's price WAS artificially high though, for at least two main reasons. One because of over-regulation, and two because the people who were too broke for bankruptcy to affect them didn't pay their medical bills. Basically, people who had money subsidized people who didn't. It's a wet dream for socialist retards like you, but you criticize it because, as we already established, you're a moron.

And how many employees does amazon have? If he divided his salary amongst all his employees and earned literally $0 they would earn maybe 0.01 more per hour? Less?

If people working full time have to rely on government handouts you failed as a society.
Working beggars, can you believe this shit?

Objectivity the truth sad to say. And he’d like to lower that even further. He’s not for open borders out of the goodness of his heart. That being said, his job is to maximize profits for his company. Nothing more.

So you don't know how to read then.

he could give every employee 250k and still have billions in liquidity.

>Jeff Bezos makes [$10,833,333] (assuming he missed a 3 on the end) per hour
>Assuming this figure came from a 40 hour work week and 2 weeks paid vacation, this implies $21.67 BILLION (with a B) per year
>Googling Jeff Bezos' salary reveals he makes $1.68 MILLION (with an M, not a B) per year
>Googling "how much of amazon does Jeff Bezos own" reveals he own 16.4% of its stock
>Googling "amazon stock market cap" gives 979 billion
>He owns about $160.56 billion in stock
>$21.67 billion is 13.5% of $160.56 billion - a fairly average annual return on stock
>Jeff Bezos wasn't paid $10,833,333 per hour. He just has a lot of stock. Bernie Sanders is literally mad at a man for doing nothing but owning stuff.

>the only people who went bankrupt were people who were broke anyway.
Quality of society is defined by how it treats its poor.
>There'e almost no cost for those people to go bankrupt; all it does is shit on your credit rating for 7 years.
And in Finland you won't lose your credit rating if you have the misfortune of getting ill. Therefore our system is superior.
>It's a wet dream for socialist retards like you
No it isnt, our system is better why would we dream of something worse and hopelessly outdated? The fact theres millions in the US that can't afford healthcare should say enough about the quality of the US.

People only accept those low wages because they know they come with gibs.
Abolish government assistance to working people and corporations will be forced to pay them more.

Bezos is a Leftist supported by other Leftists and works with CIA niggers.

The "justice democrats" are just a bunch of grifters that have no intention of doing anything about it.

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You really didn’t have to break that down. It’s been happening for years. We know.

sorry man, but if you can't differenciate a tax break (govt. allows you to keep with your well earned income) from a subsidy (govt. gives you money that it got (by force) FROM SOMEONE ELSE) then you should stop arguing about economics and go back to your liberal arts studies

I suspect its one of the reasons why things are in the toilet in the US, neither party is willing to lift a finger to fix it.

People shouldn't be satisfied with minimum wage. There are many alternatives to cleaning toilets for a living.
There aren't a lot of options for people to own their own home at reasonable prices. On top of that there are laws that prevent people from building their own homes.
We have vast territory of land but at the same time we have people living in roach infested slums.

Bezos has an agenda to further his own cause and company. Don’t read too far into it. He’s essentially a lobbyist that also happens to sell shit.

Actually, if you divided his salary from last year and gave it equally to all his employees, they would each receive 62,500 dollars. So, it would triple the paycheck of the average employee.

He earned 35 billion last year, and Amazon has 560,000 employees.

>govt. allows you to keep with your well earned income
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
god bootlicking capitalists are so retarded, especially coming from an argentinian, the US has spent hundreds of years making sure south america is a poor shithole so they can make money and you shill for them, hahahahahah you're a whipped dog

What he doesn't tell you is half of Amazon's employees are poo in loos answering phones from India

I would change the word "Salary" to "the amount he made"