Did they deserve it?

Deserves got nothing to do with it

They didn't have countries or borders until we made treaties with them. They killed, raped, enslaved, and tortured everyone they came across without knowing land existed beyond the sea. Jefferson stated they were savages in our declaration of independence. We did a lot of things wrong by them like breaking treaties but they deserved to be conquered imho.

Yes

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That's the history whitewashed tho... For example the Iroquois had a very stable strong hold on most of the eastern lands. Although they ruled with an iron fist, it still brought stability to those areas.
It wasn't until Europeans settled and started turning different regions of their land against each other.
It ultimately lead to the Beaver war.

Yea they fucking did, assimilate or die bitch sorry you cant steal horses your whole life

You start your enquiry with the pre-supposition that things are deserved. That's where your error stands.

>were here for millennia
>still lived in tents
um yeah godless savages got what was coming

No, but it was pretty much inevitable and it would be the Chinese if not us. They just didn't advance fast enough and had no disease resistance compared to any other group. 90%+ died from disease. When there's that big of a population gap there is no natural way for them to not get BTFO.

youtube.com/watch?v=ni_EdsL-avU

Will you be assimilating to our taconigger migrant overlords in the future?

Apache's were fucking loco dude
Killer society. but they lost lol

This leaf gets it. Not all natives were in perpetual war. Very few actually and they were known by others to be, and ostracized for it. It was well known throughout history that Native Americans were crafty diplomats (especially the iroquois). That they had admirable, strong communities(colonial powers enacted laws and used propaganda to dissuade colonists from joining them or adopting their ideas). And it could also be argued they had a spiritual strength and knowledge more widely distributed among their people than most if not any other culture. Among other traits. What this basically means is that they were not stupid savages, that's propaganda. Calling all of them ignorant would be like calling all Europeans as weak and sad as Swedes. Do they deserve to be on welfare for their entire individual lives? No. Are they extremely broken? Of course. All cultures have gone through that though. If they're able to regain their cultural strength, they have a lot to teach and would make a strong ally against the evil in the world. A strong Native American people would be a much more valuable ally than any colored race, and even more than most of the Europeans in their state.

>White ppo lost, lol

Tell us about this guy this user

Some did, some did not. They were on par with white evolution. After all, they are originally white AND Asiatic genes, originally.

No, but jews do what jews do best.
You need to identify the real people behind these issues and bring them out to light so uneducated or low information people can become enlightened to the truth and stop their self destructive behaviors.

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Deserving has nothing to do with it.
Rain falls on the just and the unjust alike.
Morality is not exclusive and will not save anyone from inevitable calamity.

Was just their turn.

First jews in Canada happened to be followed by the genocide of the native people.

Really makes you think.

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I was talking about economic systems

Yup

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People today are lucky they don't know just how shitty these fuckers actually were

I know 90% of them died from disease before ever coming across the white man. Most were all dead by the 1600s. Just barren lands we claimed

New York Indians famously did the same with Manhattan.

Well it was us or them, it was them. It's not about that they deserved it, but it was necessary

They're still kinda shitty user. I live an hour away from a Cherokee reservation. One of my childhood memories is camping there and seeing how out of control they were.

No- one will listen. all they see is "muh Sherman", "Muh residential schools". And then label it all on the single word. SAVAGES, which will equate to either a people who were stupid and literally savage, or people who were put under the frothing mouths of genocidal Europeans.
Black or white, no in between.

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That's absolutely horse shit.

based geronimo

Did the buffalo deserve it? Did any of the extinct animals deserve it?

Most did die of diseases, but yeah he was wrong about us never seeing them.

They have no choice, they can listen or be caught off guard and have to adapt. It's not as simple as genocidal Europeans either. Just look how it turned out, then to now. There will always be that major chunk of the population that are useful idiots, those people in power doing what their unseen masters tell them (Jews, royal bloodline, secret society, whatever). Then and now. And of course those who view themselves as intellectuals or observant, upright men, who are in reality an expression of these same unseen powers, and people of power. All of this is the same, then and now. When you share a boarder, or even worse a territory, with such different peoples; you either eradicate them, or unite with them. Anything else is just passing time between the inevitable happening of those two options. Those who do anything but pick one of those options should be ignored, they'll come around and pick a side

The only problem with the genocide of the Indians is that the Spanish pussied out and didn't do the same thing in Latin America.

There was no "deserve" in history.
Countless peoples were killed, Proto-Indo-Europeans massacred the shit out of whomever lived in Europe before them.
Indians are a hotter topic because they're the last example of it. It used to be the rule, now it's not.

no but what happened happened.

Millions, not thousands.

This user is correct.

"Empire of The Summer Moon" and "Scalpdance" are good books.

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>Scalpdance
They were called 'Savages' for a reason.

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let me guess... Blacks
is it the one you have in mind?
>I agree and I am not black nor white

I can appeciate the poor noble savage fiction but the long and short is you adapt or die. The american indians were waaaaay behind in technology and had immune systems that got ravaged by westerners. Even now most american indians with any real percentage of blood struggle to adapt to modern society. We all have to adapt.

They did some horrific things, and I've spoken to modern natives who defend that shit or just skip over it entirely. Fuck 'em.

counter-currents.com/2013/02/a-fate-worse-than-death/

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>adapt or die

Same situation can be said in modern times with Europeans with MENA and African people

Also Americans with Hispanics right now.

>adapt or die

Whites are so unique that we'll say "GG" to the losing side when others will just eradicate the enemy entirely.

The buffalos couldn't be domisicated . Same as the savages.

>by swinging them against rocks and dashing out their brains.
The most repeated propaganda line in history. Not that I disagree with the reality of their cruelty, but this throws everything written into question.

The Iroquois extincted the Hurons Killed them all .

Even native sources say they did that shit. Pre-Columbian Mexicans did it as a punishment. From the book Broken Spears, Mohteczoma ordered that the families of a group of "wizards" be killed. The women were hung and the children dashed against the rocks. They were fucking brutal. There was never any quarter with them.

YOU MUST BE SOME KINDA MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its Sitting Bull The canadains took the Souix in after Little Bighorn He was a refugee in Canada

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Trying to establish a moral canon about events that old and and vicious is pointless. By the time the worst of the killing was happening the people who started it had already been dead for hundreds of years and everyone involved had lived on that land for generations. The whole fucking mess is better served as a collection of facts than one big coherent moral narrative. Or at least series of narratives.

>It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War endures. As well ask
men what they think of stone. War was always here. Before man was, war waited for
him. The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and
will be. That way and not some other way.

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Does a rabbit deserve to get eaten by a coyote? I would say it is just a natural consequence of a weaker creature meeting a stronger one.

Of course they deserved it. And we deserve it too.
If you can't defend your culture and way of life, it goes away.

Guess what.
THEY LOST THE WAR!
Was the war just?
Did they deserve it?
Who cares, they lost it and got conquered.
Did the Greeks deserve to lose Instanbul to the Ottoman muslim Turks?
Did they?
Did the Bushmen deserve to be wiped out and colonised by the black Bantus in present day South Africa?
Who cares?
Same thing. It's done.

Geronimo was at his most based when he went full psychopath murder rampage and killed the fuck out of every mexican he could lay his hands to.
Straight serial killer on wetback mexican scum colonial euro-garbage.
For that he will always be remembered.
Aho!!!!!
>daily reminder:
>mexico is stolen land
>Native People call it the Occupied Territories.

Native americans didn't even have the concept of property rights so they were bound to be conquered eventually. They're better than niggers but they live more comfy under the white man than anyone else

Most of them did, but we were kind of assholes in certain situations like the trail of tears and wounded knee.

Do the south Africans deserve to be genocided?
Who cares!

deserve what? free gibbs, free school, free medical and shareholder checks just for having siberian genes?
Nope. They are just Asian Mongloids and there are billions of them. Injuns attacked and killed too many people and lost to 400 years of war. It should be illegal; to allow injuns to own firearms just like booze.

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I like how you think.

Hereros had it coming!

>we were kind of assholes in certain situations like the trail of tears and wounded knee
What people usually forget to mention about cases like the Trail of Tears is how those poor natives were sent marching with their slaves stumbling right behind them. That's the thing about those situations. It was a gruesome clusterfuck.

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It was pretty messed up, I just dont like how we removed assimilated natives like that. Alot of the natives we sent out to oklahoma had fought alomgsode whotes against other natives and were christian plantation owners.

Some of the old folks wouldn't or couldn't accept surrender or defeat.
Death is the only logical spiritual solution they understood at that time. Reality is not 'reality and the spirit world is more tangible to them, there was no fear of death.
Some did try to adapt for the sake of their children and submit to their "victors ", others decided to check out and take everyone else with them.
Both ideologies served their purpose, we are still here talking about it. The tribes still remember and honor all the sacrifices made in our behalf.
Others as American historical inheritors, should feel no shame or guilt, it only cheapens our history both.
GOD willed it, so let it be.
We are now spiritual, nationalistic brothers now forever.
MAGA

So which is it?
Is migration and cultural enrichment a good thing or bad?
The Europeans migrated to the continent of North America and they had brought their culture with them.
So what is the problem?

>in focus
>fine detail
>well lit
This is not a picture of an actual indian. It's a modern descendant of an indian who just won't fucking stop larping as one of his ancestors--- much like a lot of Jow Forumstards, the indians pretend to be the great men their fathers were instead of dealing with real fucking life the way it is right now.

The Haida indians initially refused to join Canada when they were told they could no longer raid Sitka villages and enslave them

MacKenzie King did not want them here

And will do so again Sven you just wait.

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Ive been to haida Gwaii. Those are Polyesians. They ate the sitka and other "natives".
Too bad for Canada its been proven the First people and true First Nations were the Solutreans on the east Coast and not the damn Siberians and Polynesians. No human race is native to North America, everytime someone writes the word native an IQ point is deleted. I will admit the Queen Charlottes are the prettiest place Ive been on North America though.

Yes if only you knew how bad things are really in indian territory NE Oklahoma. They openly hate whites, while being white, only 3% native, they get free gibs more than any other race period. Some think they are a lost jewish tribe.
Casinos they operate are degenerate, human trafficking, drug smuggling crooks. They are drunk high and squander their free gib wealth. They get houses built for free for them, they get free hunting fishing license, and they get discounted car tags at massive discount. They are largly white race traitors, that cleaim native for the gibs. They make whites look bad, they do meth, they deal in crime ect. They have their own polcie force, white police have no jurisdiction over. Its pathetic, we have a traitorious independent malignant tumor in the middle of the USA and its the TRIBES.

They get casino money and tax payer cash in the tune to 400-1500 dollars a MONTH for FREE bc they are natives, the amount depends on the tribe.

We here in NE OK have a variety of blood sucking tribes, Wyandotte, Seneca, Quapaw, Shawnee, Adawe, Cherokee, Miami , ect, HELL we have a tribe called mud eater, thats right MUD EATER, they live all of them live on white mans casino money and tax payer cash.

Thats right! If a white persn opens a casino its 100% illegal, yet they can, Hell you can loo kat a car's License plate , you can EASILY tell the tribe just by looking, like the star of david they mark themselves, they have their own license plates. Complte with tribal name, and its all FREE or at extremely high discount. Yep some even get utilities reimpersued, Free houses built all bc they are tribe members for free just got to be on a waiting list! Free daycare and child care and healtcare, absolute SCUM of the EARTH only next to jews in my honest opinion.

FUCK the prairie nigger scum ! Gets everything and more than ANY one race on EARTH, yet squanders it ALL!

You have to stay there.

FUck the Tribes every last one of them, if you defend or feel sorry for Native prairie niggers you had better come to NE Oklahoma the only place in the US where whites are openly unequivocally treated as second class citizens!

No joke, its worse here than any1 cares to fucking realize.

Try Alaska. Injuns get all the jobs because "Shareholder preference", and everyone thinks they need to please them. Its the sickest fucking State in the US by far.

Hello fucking racists I work in a mouthwash factory, you counts should all fuck off

I dunno about the Native Americans at USA but the injuns in Latin America do.
The Conquistadores and Spaniards in general should've had finish the job.

You kidding me its worse here in OK, look at job listings, Its will literally say INDIAN PREFERRED

FUCKING INDIAN PREFERRED

Thats the most racist god damn shit i have ever in my life seen. They will only promote you at a casino which employs hundres if not thousands in the area unless you are a tribe member.

How do you become a tribal member you may ask?????

You have to prove it via lineage or a tribal adoption papers, this incredible hard to do.... So they dont let ppl into their jewish scheme.

Hence why they pay people who are relates dividens, and tax payer cash. Some tribrs pay you if you are 3% native or more, some pay if you are more its all racial based......
YET IN THE GOD DAMN NEWS WHITES ARE CALLED RACIST!!!!!

Local grocery stores ran by them have memes on the wall that say :
>My heros killed cowboys

and this is in motherfucking Oklahoma!

America would just be like any Latin American country if indios became the majority there. A much more crime ridden and corrupt shithole while whites live in their own segregated rich neighborhoods.

Native in the USA are worse than Mexico or central America, they where skin eating Squaw fucks that subsided on misery. and FIRE WATER!

They get so much free gibs and free this adn that shoes, utilities, loans, applainces its fucking sickening , and they have nothing to show for it bc they are scum!

Central american natives and Mexican natives dont get shit, not a god damn thing compared to these spoiled fucks, mark my works shtf Oklahoma will be smack dab in the middle of it!

No joke i live in the absolute thick of it!

Im fed up! with it all, these fuckers have fucking broken the camels back in these parts of the nation. Fuck them!

AMA live in NE Oklahoma, pissed off and will answer all your questions what its like living around these degenerate fucks.

>Central american natives and Mexican natives
They're still shit and mestizos are subhuman too.

I dont doubt it, not one bit. If they are anything like the ones here , they are waste's oxygen.

Trust me you will know what I'm talking about soon.
Latin America could've gotten another USA-tier superpower if it wasn't for Spain being an incompetent retard.

HAHAHAHA you fucks look at all the tribes i mention
I have no doubt Meixan ect and central american tribes are subhuman, but god damn ,they had the Maya / Aztec who where technological titans in the area and they didnt even have they knowledge of a wheel LMFAO

Here in Oklahama we got all the retard reject fuck up tribes from across north America, thats right we are taught since grade school to mourne like muh holohoax BS bc of the TRIAL OF MOTHERFUCKING TEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now how do you say that in Spanish my friend, yes lets never forget all the evils the white man did during the trail of tears Pedro!