I'm regretting my gender transition (mtf) >therapist won't do anything, is an actual Jewish woman no lie >can't afford another shrink, she is provided by the state (California) >tell her I'm tired of lying to my self >she boosts my confidence and coddles me and I leave the office feeling better but ultimately i feel hollow after a day or two >my friends at college all basically said they would stop talking to me if I detransitioned >my mom (only parent since the start of my life) said she wouldn't talk to me if I detransitioned and she "prefers a daughter over a son" and "will no longer be proud of me if I chicken out on this"
What do I do guys? As it is I genuinely live day to day and pass as a girl but I'm sick of it and I'm done with college and I want to escape this nonsense.
Tried /advice/ btw and they were all liberal as shit about it trying to talk me out of detransition, same with/b/
Nathaniel Gonzalez
Californians deserve to be crucified. You failed the test. It's time to join the 41%.
Austin Baker
why can't you just call everyone transphobic
Josiah Johnson
Use their own bullshit against them. You're not trans, you're "non-binary" and you just choose to present as male more than female. If they give you shit, call them bigots.
Andrew Walker
Kill yourself. It's the only way out. Why the fuck do you think so many trannies do it?
Jaxon Morales
Because I stopped being an sjw the second I discovered pol a few weeks ago
I learned that I got fucked by a system that wants everyone to be a femmy woman who is easily led and lied to and that I cucked myself out of my masculinity
Luke Anderson
>my mom (only parent since the start of my life)
This explains everything.
Joshua Morales
Sissy
Benjamin Lewis
As it is right now I only wear dresses and skirts, I haven't even started to come back to reality yet
Matthew Martin
>A real man I haven't ever lived as a man, I was put on hormones at 15, now 22
Benjamin Mitchell
Using their rules against them is the only way to stop this PC nonsense. Call them transphobic for not supporting your decision. Shame the fuck out of them. Don't let then try to logic it away either by saying if you detransition, you're not trans.
Prove you're a man
Justin Bennett
find some non-toxic friends and return to your natural self. theyre not helping you, theyre using you as a moral pawn in some ideological battle.
Parker Gutierrez
>What do I do guys? do it for you, not for others change back, man, you'll be a failure anyway, but at least you will be honest
go off the hormones mate. let you body cleanse itself out
Luis Anderson
Holy fuck you’re surrounded by trash. Gtfo to a Christian church unironically.
T. Atheist
Nathaniel Nelson
If you’ve still got your penis I say tell ‘em to fuck off. They really dont care about you or your hapiness all that much if they don’t support you thinking better of your transition. Stop before any more damage is done to your mental and or physical health. Liberals will probably give ypu shit sure but your well being is well worth the nuisance. Detransitioning is the right choice, user. God, help you in your plight
To clarify I mean that i went to high school only as a girl, socialized as a girl all through my teens, dated guys but didn't have sex because I was worried they would find my penis. That being said I really have no clue how to man up
Leo Murphy
this - Christian community will help alot and a good pastor / priest will listen to your situation and is as good as a therapist without the drugs
Nathan Cox
This.
Jeremiah Wood
Just tell them that you are who you are and if they don't like it they can go fuck themselves. If they keep trying to guilt you about this, just remind them that what they are doing is no better then the gay conversion camps trying to forcefully make homosexuals straight.
The only thing that worries me is it sounds like you are a pushover and only want to detransition because of what you read here. Try to take a moment and think about what you want out of your life. Not what we want, not what your mom wants, not what your friends want, not what society wants, but what YOU want. Take back control of your life, focus on self improvement and you will find your happiness, wherever it may be.
Henry Diaz
Whenever I feel depressed I just fap Its great to have a functional penis.
Aiden Foster
They do it for selfish reasons, you say you pass, that means you are probably pretty, you are basically an aesthetic think on 2 legs and they dont want to loose that, they don't want a generic man around them, when they can have a >Work of art as some may coin women. My advice, listen to yourself, and there is no better way than eating a cannabis treat in the most comfortable environment you can conjure up and and your true self will surface. You'll be certain what you want.
Adrian Carter
Move to a red state, leave everyone behind. Live life as a man there, as you were meant to do.
Jacob Ross
Lift weights. You dont yave to be a manly man but you need testosterone as a male. You dont have to try to become the toughest guy. Just dont be a pussy.
Juan Martin
>The only thing that worries me is it sounds like you are a pushover and only want to detransition because of what you read here Um.... well you guys have told me I can't help for shit because being trans makes me automatically degenerate. I'm sick of not being taken seriously by anyone, every time I speak up anywhere it's always your a girl shut up and then when I mention I'm trans I'm told to kill myself If anything I want to genuinely become a politician and try to unfuck society by getting corporations out of legislation and also identity politics out of legislation. The government should only be responsible for roads and all general infrastructure, nothing else
Lincoln Bell
I have boobs and no testicles so my issues with going back are much deeper
Carson Wood
Let's get one thing out of the way; u dun goofed. I think you already know this, so let's not harp on it. That being said, we're in a very brief period in history that you have all the power. Maybe not in your personal life, but politically you do. Call people transphobic when you dont agree with them. Call them bigots when they attack white people ( I assume you're white and have an interest in white identity). Destroy the system with the weapon they created: you. I'm sorry you fell for it, I really am, but be a gain to us anyway. Be part of /beurocratgang/ by burying anyone who wants white genocide in a mountain of paperwork in a legal office or something. Car loan? Yeah, you missed the deadline. Or even better, HR. As a tranny you'll run the fucking show and you can help out innocent men and whites who get falsely accused. This is your path to redemption.
Just detransition. Jow Forums is one of the only places on the entire planet that you can find pure unadulterated truth. The people here are telling you what you need to hear and supporting you in the prospect of detransition. All other bullshit is irrelevent. Your very well being is on the line. We are telling you the truth
Jason Davis
I don't think the shit OP has been reading here would have "clicked" as much as it did if they didn't experience so much push-back from the people in their life.
Little expectations = Little respect
Everyone on Jow Forums gets told to fuck off and kill themselves. Some people are just damaged like that. People respect acts. If you truly work towards improving the situation we're all in, then people will respect that. Anyone who respects you for what you are rather than what you do is more than likely a piece of shit.
Blake Clark
You can just start identifying as queer, since it's vague and slowly start wearing whatever you want.
Dylan Ross
Bind your chest. Eventually get it removed. There are men who have lost their balls due to an accident, just claim the same.
Ayden Phillips
You let yourself be fooled by a fad, if you still have a penis detransition but if you cut it off your fucked either way.
Angel Hill
If you have """""friends""""" or """""family""""" that want you to ruin your body, and make it so that you will be infertile, never able to have a family of your own, then they are trash, and you shouldn't WANT to interact with them.
Explain to your bitch mother that you aren't just "chickening out".
Also, if you've not yet ruined yourself with estrogen, then go to the gym, eat healthy, and get a girlfriend. If you ARE too far gone to be a manly man, then I'm afraid I don't know what to say. Perhaps you can still find a grill some day.
If you're a homo, then I don't really care what you do.
Zachary Diaz
G-got anymore pictures like that user?
Robert Walker
Find a good therapist, I think your problem is more complex than gender transition. I think you should search fir psychodynamic therapy which can dig deeper into your mental state. However it wont be short, easy and cheap...
Jordan Green
Good god! Yeah, I'm afraid I've not got any idea on how to help, then.
Ryan Ramirez
I for one encourage you to return to reality which you seem to be doing. I can't say it will be easy but I'm surprised Jow Forums is actually giving good advice here
Justin Garcia
>people don't take me seriously Make them. Sure there will be assholes to deal with, but that is life. Sadly some have it worse then others, but you live in the US, are going to university and clearly have some affluence since you have already transitioned. You are in a prime position to make something of your life and the only thing stopping you is your own self doubt. People respect confidence and will only take you seriously if you start taking yourself seriously. I am not going to tell you to detransition, because that is something only you can decide for yourself.
Life can only get better if you let it.
Christopher Parker
just curious. so the only thing you don't like about being a trap is that people don't take you seriously or fucking guys or all of it?
Thomas James
Just one
I like this idea, I can stay me and still benefit my white brothers
>and no testicles You were abused as a child, your mother has narcissistic personality disorder, and everyone in your life has been selectively picked by your abuser(s), most likely by your mother alone, to create the illusion that you're alone and your mother is right.
You need to get away from them, completely, as in stop talking to anyone you talk to now, NO MATTER WHAT, get some ACTUAL HELP from ACTUAL THERAPISTS, not the monster you have now, and then reexamine your life from scratch. You will find that everything they're doing now, and have done in the past, is so fucking evil it could better be defined as satanic.
Then you need to retaliate. Legal or extrajudicial, your choice. Do it when you have clarity. You need to GET OUT first.
Look up NPD, Munchausen by Proxy, Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, and start reading. You need to get out. Now. Being homeless is better than living where you are now. Run. Do not walk. Your life is at stake and THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL YOU.
>well you guys have told me I can't help for shit because being trans makes me automatically degenerate. I'm sick of not being taken seriously by anyone, every time I speak up anywhere it's always your a girl shut up and then when I mention I'm trans I'm told to kill myself The people telling you to shut up are coabusers. They are all evil. The vast majority of society is composed of normal, healthy people, the ones who do actually see what's going on and see it as wrong. You don't see this because your mother has spent almost your entire life building up the illusion that something's wrong with you and she's the one in the right. You need to get away from her.
You're probably not trans, mate. You're a victim. You need to get out.
> if I detransitioned So you’ve had your dick mutilated into a “vagina” now you want that reversed? Is that even possible? Or do you mean you’ve just had loads of hormones and stuff? No actual surgery?
Tyler Morales
Hey Jow Forums I'm a cute tranny that coincidentally has no balls just like the futa I hear you guys are into. Here's an OP pic about cute traps.
Don't tell me to go to /advice/ either, those guys suck and I need to complete the meme format so it's a legit ruse cruise. Do you guys think I should continue to be a cute futa or would you rather write a bunch of posts abusing me? Because I can make use of either.
Julian Robinson
Please lay out your situation in greater detail so we can more clearly offer advice. timelines, surgeries, hormones, social groups, current psychological state. please expand and detail these.
Bentley Jackson
>As it is I genuinely live day to day and pass as a girl No you don't. Even the absolute best model-tier MtF trans are obviously male if you interact with them for more than a moment, plus you'll look like a crossdressing dude in a few years.
Wyatt Barnes
>no testicles If you did the surgery then I'm afraid you're irreversibly fucked. The best thing to do now is take testosterone to compensate, and see a therapist to truly resolve the gender dysphoria. I'm so sorry user.
Xavier Brooks
This. Ditch carbs as much as possible, lift and build muscle. And for fuck sake, get off the hormones. You man never be a "manly man" but building muscle mass will increase testosterone production. Carbs suppress that. So, meat, veggies. Beans have lots of protein.
Jace Powell
I've met some MtF's that passed. Tiny little East Asians.
Henry Allen
tell em all to fuck off, you're a man no matter what. they want you to be their social justice religion icon, they're sick and you're trying to get better
your mother is mentally ill and your college " friends " aint your real friends you're just a living virtue signal to them
>my parents are ashamed of me because I regret chopping my penis off Is this truly how civilization dies?
Mason Brown
This is the best plan put forth OP. As for detransitioning, you can either decide to go back or accept what you've done and just be glad that you actually pass.
Dominic Anderson
God bless australia
Austin Parker
Fuck.
Justin Gutierrez
Sup fellow tranny-scum reporting in.
It's really a shame that detransitioning is such a taboo topic in the lgbtwasdxyz and PC crowd, have my condolence. I can only imagine how much regretting transitioning must suck.
Blake Wright
I know it is. I guess what I'll do is ride out the nonsense with my mom and quote "friends" until I'm done with college and then I will try to be HR for a large company and maybe do some work for the benefit of white guys
Jokes aside, they, like western trans, still get turbo-fucked as they age. >It's really a shame that detransitioning is such a taboo topic in the lgbtwasdxyz and PC crowd, Cults always try to stop members from leaving; they can't afford the truth getting out.
Wyatt Torres
Answer the following questions if you like, most of the cunts in this thread have never dealt with this shit. I have, maybe enlightening them as to your predicament will change their opinions:
>does your mother or anyone else spy on your communications devices >does your mother take over or otherwise discourage you from doing things (this can even include jumping in front of you to do your laundry when you want to do it or cooking for you) >does your mother selectively slander people you meet (perhaps people you meet at parties, at the shops, etc.) >does your mother continually praise the friends you have now >does your mother say, or has she ever said, something along the lines of "you need me", "you can't live without me", "what would you do without me", and so on >has your mother prevented you from acquiring things like drivers licenses, new apartments, etc in the past, FOR ANY REASON >if so, what was her professed reasoning >has your mother forced or pressured you to do things like taking hormones, going to the therapist you have now or others like her, dressing like a woman, etc >has your mother ever yelled or otherwise punished you for acquiring, wearing, or being interested in male clothes, activities, etc >has your mother ever suddenly prevented you from talking to therapists, medical professionals, teachers, etc, and if she has, has she used vague reasoning like "they don't want what's best for you", "they're creepy", "they think i'm bad", etc >has your mother ever forced you or attempted to force you, into romantic or sexual relationships with men
Answer two or three, or all of them, just for the love of god answer them. I've dealt with this shit. I know what's going on. I can't fix your life but I can show you where the breaks are in the seams.
if you haven't cut off your dick, it might not be too late. Just stop taking those hormones and be who you have always been intended to be : a man. Fuck every single one of those leftards who think they know better.
If you've already cut off your dick, I suggest suicide.
Jeremiah Jackson
you likely arent gonna listen but do what ever you feel makes you happiest fuck your friends you can make more and tell your mom that you arent chickening out you are making a choice that will make you happier instead of being sad if she still doesnt understand kill her ezpz
Jace Adams
you've already lost your balls may as well stay a trap
Adam Turner
Yes to everything *sigh* Now what do you mean you've been through this? U a girl too?
Cameron Anderson
>no testicles
Can you elaborate? Did you get an operation to remove them?
Samuel Parker
>>my friends at college all basically said they would stop talking to me if I detransitioned >>my mom (only parent since the start of my life) said she wouldn't talk to me if I detransitioned and she "prefers a daughter over a son" and "will no longer be proud of me if I chicken out on this" LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR LET THE BODIES HIT THE
No dick either ok are you happy now? I had srs with Dr Chett in Thailand for my 18th birthday present, it was $15,900 up front with a one year wait list and guess who paid and who didn't listen to me when I said I was having second thoughts? Mom is who Also I found out her and my shrink talk
Luis Martinez
Nuh not at all. I pass and am comfortable with the changes hrt and surgery performed on my body.
But since I am not a retarded ideologue. I understand that this is not for everyone. People who regret their choices should be helped and supported to become happy with themselves once again.
Sadly the trans community is, due to being full of insecure nutjobs way to afraid about suddenly losing its legitimacy in the eyes of normies, to allow individual people to openly question if transitioning was the right thing for them individually.
Carson Sanders
you need to run. you are being slowly killed by your mentally unwell progenitor.
you seriously need to leave her and never contact her again. run as far and fast as you can.
Isaiah Bailey
Don't be a fucking bitch about it to me hon. I doubt you even pass as well as I do.
Luis Nguyen
Wow, care to elaborate?
Fucking women ruining their son's lives.
Michael Cruz
>Also I found out her and my shrink talk Violation of confidentiality. Serious ethical issue.
Hunter Long
Time to DeFOO You are surrounded by liars and sycophants. They don't actually help you, they just try to get you back under their control.
Fuck em.
Your mother wanted a girl and talked you into having mental issues. You remind her of your father. Thats why she doesn't like you. You remind her of her own failures by looking like your father. So she emasculates you. You never needed transitioning. Just testosterone treatment for low T, a good father figure and maybe some cognitive behavioural therapy.
Ayden Gonzalez
Desiring acceptance over personal determination is a feminine trait.
If you want to reestablish a strong contact with your inner man, then you'll have to make the decision that you know is right for you, and damn everybody else's expectations to the lowest circle of hell.
That is step one to reclaiming your manhood.
Angel Martinez
My mother beat me for years, allowed relatives to sexually abuse me, prevented me from accessing medical care, disrupted my education, tried to get me to commit suicide, and then disowned me once I left home. She has spent the time since disowning me trying to turn my friends against me, get me fired from jobs, and break up any relationships. My father just beat the shit out of me and backed my mother up.
I'm still a bloke, but senpai, if my mother were so inclined I would be in the same situation you're in now. You are probably not trans, your mother is abusing you. My mother did all of the shit above, your mother has a different set of techniques but is still abusing you.
I'm really sorry to be the one to say this, but it needs to be said. She will keep this shit up until she dies. You need to get out.
Now, if you could tell us some stories about your life, that would be great. Most of the faggots here going on about how you need to be a "le based trap" or whatever are full of shit, most of them have never experienced what we have. The only way they're going to see what's actually going on is if you explain what your life is like. I came into this thread because I saw everything that's going on for you a mile off after glancing at the OP, the faggots in this thread will need to be handheld through it.
It doesn't matter what stories you'd like to tell, we just need some stories.
Speaking of that, do you ever suffer from memory loss? Say, if someone were to ask you to recount events like your birthdays when you were younger, any random day at school, etc, would you be able to simply remember? I'm asking this because there is a good chance you have dissociative amnesia, or are otherwise fucked up from the stress you're under, and that may result in you having trouble remembering the bad shit.
Easton Walker
Can I sue? My shrink accidentally texted me a whole paragraph she wrote to my mom
Andrew Garcia
Glad to help. Understand though, that you can still get fucked over if you show your power level. DO NOT GO FULL STORMFRONT. Just disrupt and disrupt hard, and refuse to talk about politics. >yeah, all this political talk get getting pretty traumatizing Do this when SJWs and (((they))) start to push the agenda. And behind the scenes, /beurocratgangbang/ until they are well and truly fucked. Best of luck
>won’t talk to me if I destransition That’s messed up I’m sorry about your mom but is anybody else who says that worth keeping around? If the transition is truly what makes you unhappy then I don’t see much reason to keep that up. I personally wouldn’t worry about those “friends”
Colton Butler
Um what are you talking about dude? than me I made clear that I fully support anyone who feels the need to detrans. Crazy bitch.
I don't care if you pass better or worse than me. I live comfortably stealth and am content my my current state.
Ps: Nice
David Evans
You not only can but should. Contact a lawyer. Initial consultations are free.
David Clark
It's very simple: >STEP 1 - start a stream
>STEP 2 - write a letter blaming your mom, friends, PC culture and therapist for forcing you not to detransition
Detransition. Find out who truly loves you for yourself.
Justin Roberts
if you don't have a benis and balls, there's not much point in transitioning back is there. Unless you really dislike being a woman, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Jack Green
The absolute state of amerimutts
Bentley Johnson
Typical passive aggressive ugly ass hon
Grayson Roberts
Relabel it double trans and accuse anyone that doesn't support you of being double bigoted. You could even go on Dr Phil and claim that you feel like a man trapped in a woman's body trapped in a man's body. I wonder if California would have to pay out twice as much for your reassignment surgery?...
Benjamin Parker
Holy fuck, your mum is a horrible bitch!
I feel for you user.
You were dealt a hard blow.
Whats done is done though. You need to focus on improving yourself and carving out a niche for yourself in this world. There is still room for happiness. First you need to cut out the toxic people in your life. There are still normal open minded people out there who will love you for who you are, and wont judge or discriminate just because you have gone through srs and then detransitioned.
dunno, but i'm glad i'm not surrounded by such degenerate lowlives and that i'm not brainwashable to fall for jewish psyops like that if anything, kill yourself, that'll really show em
Noah Young
Dude, you got mad at me first out of the blue sky. You should really dose down your mones.
Kevin Nelson
I really hope you're larping. But if not hopefully you'll pull through and find a fulfilling direction in life. Personally my problem has never been with trannies. It's the trans activists who are going to pay on the day of the rope. Those sick fucks know exactly what they're putting people through. Then sugar coat everything for the normalfags who think they're being helpful and supportive.
Caleb Carter
You deserve a ton of credit bro. Sincerely. Get fucking angry is my advice. Don't go hurt anyone, or yourself. But you you need to get fucking ragefully angry. Then get off the fucking hormones and get back on testosterone and tell every single person in your life to fuck right the hell off. Take control. Now.
I have sympathy for you, I really do. And I have respect for you that you got the message as soon as you were exposed to alternative viewpoints. You can become a very powerful voice. Do a walkaway video. Start a fucking twitter and take down all your enemies. You would be a massive viral hit.
Daniel Foster
I think you should call in to Stefan Molyneux's show Freedomainradio.
Daniel Anderson
the system can't fuck you if you're not an impressionable git who falls for basic shit like peer pressure and niggerdom in the first place