Reminder that if you judge art politically you are just as bad as SJWs and are as much a part of the problem as they...

Reminder that if you judge art politically you are just as bad as SJWs and are as much a part of the problem as they are.

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>Art raises its head where creeds relax.
Friedrich Nietzsche

So we cant call out propaganda, because if we do we are as bad as the people who make the propaganda?

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You can call out propaganda. But art with propaganda in it can still have its merits, and if you deny that, you are a propagandist yourself.

Year 2077 america is so racemixed that looking like a mexican is understatement.

People have this delusion of grandeur that filling the world with third worlders is a good idea and diversity will be with whites, blacks, Asians, hispanics. And it can build futuristic cities.

No it's gonna be Brazil 2.0 much worse
Everyone is dark and brown.

Playing this game would be probably depressing for me.

Ok, I dont get your point. Art is subjective, art is not a definitive. So if I cant find merit in it based off of my subjective view, I'm wrong because someone else can? What is your point?

>Art is subjective, art is not a definitive.
Wrong. Art forms have a definitive substance. In 2077's case, it's a video game, which form is defined by its gameplay (i.e. interactive elements) first and above all else.

>a dystopia is supposed to be muh ethostate

The absolute, utter and final state of P*L

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Am I missing something here? Is there some controversy over this game that I haven't heard about?

So if the game functions well as a game, that is all I have to give credit to? Just like the only thing I need to judge about a painting is the art strokes?
Dude get real, use your freshman education somewhere else cause you're making a fool of yourself

I said "first and above all else," not "only." Learn to read.

... What seems to be the complaint about this game? Art wise that is OP.

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Is GamerGate finally back?

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/po/ is full of retards these days. California already looks like mexico. It's going to be worse in fifty years, duh.

Gameplay mechanics cant erase a deliberate form of propaganda, thus rendering it worthless as art. But you can have a different opinion, cause surprisingly art is subjective

It never went away.

>I enjoyed the gameplay of X but I wish the leftist cabal of marxists who rule the video game industry didn't butcher the story and ruin all of the characters

There OP, you happy?

they want you to think their art is important enough to argue about it so they can church out this shit GTA graphics mod.

>propaganda
Nigger.

wait a second, Jow Forums doesn't like cyberpunk 2077? why?

red pilled game

shows multiculturalism and how the Jewish corporate elite will lead to dystopia

the gameplay looked like garbage though, the gunplay actually looked worse than fallout 4

>Gameplay mechanics cant erase a deliberate form of propaganda
And propaganda can't erase good gameplay, and gameplay is higher priority when criticizing an art form... or it should be, unless you are interested in corrupting said art form, since in prioritizing something of secondary importance over something of primary importance you are promoting the wrong criteria for artistic judgment to generations that are younger than yourself, the result of which being people who understand less and less about said art form. See how that works? Probably not, because you can't read for shit.

video games aren't art

>why?
Leftist liberal redditors have swarmed Jow Forums to the point that racism gets reported.

what the fuck
go back to you faggots

Yeah but video games aren’t art
>*pew pew* I got him!

This is shameful viral marketing and OP deserves the rope for his homosex crimes.

when criticizing the art form*
Not any art form, obviously, since gameplay is unique to video games.

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whole Jow Forums thinks it's shit

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By whose guidelines are basic gameplay the first and above all metric in defining video game art? Who standardized video game art and made that the best quality to judge this art form? That's again like saying brush strokes art the first metric of defining a painting or cinematography is the best one for film, you are making these arbitrary rules to reinforce your position

But corporate leftists don't make apolitical art, they make political propaganda.

checked and /thread

mainly it was the damage indicators that pop out of enemies when they are damaged buy bullets. Kinda ruins the immersion.

>waa, profitable game immersion with a good story is not art

This is why "Get woke, go broke." is a real objective thing.

I'd say on the list of artistic elements that make up a video game, the gameplay itself is probably on the low end. Visuals, atmosphere, sound design, and yes, the message (or propoganda) contribute more to a game's artistic value than the gameplay, which in my opinion serves more to increase entertainment value than artistic merit (which is fine, as games are meant to be entertaining unless you're creating pandering artsy hipster trash). How would you even judge a piece of "art" if it were purely gameplay and nothing else?

>By whose guidelines are basic gameplay the first and above all metric in defining video game art?
The guidelines of leading art critics who know way more about it than you obviously do. The fact that you even have to bring into question why the element which is unique to video games and defines them more than anything else is considered of primary importance when judging their artistic merits shows that you are utterly incapable of any valid judgment on this discussion.

That is why their shit does not sell.

"Tom Abomination" is not a woman when he has his ballsack shoved into his body.

>the element which is unique to video games and defines them more than anything else ... is on the low end
Fucking ridiculous.

>leading art critics
Literally who? Give me names and some of their published work about video game art you fucking dingus.
>valid judgement
Holy shit, art does not have any valid judgement because every critic has a basis and cannot wholly judge art without one. You are clearly some asshole who is either employed by this asshat of a video game company or some shithead who just had his first art appreciation class this past week and is trying to sound cool on the interwebs

This.
If you're seriously contemplating the artist merits behind a mass produced video game you should probably resign back to your little games and continue to waste away like the dumb little zombie you are

nigger it's based on a p2p game, I wish there were more indicators

"Go broke" game designer detected.

Nothing is above critique it is the merits of that critique that should be judged.

>stories aren't art

You can start with the top dog here: culture.vg

>art does not have any valid judgement
Then how could it even exist? Idiot.

>strawpoll.me/16347867

Stay deluded, commie.
Also
>A brownskin is behind this forced GTA V meme spam
Explains a lot

only reddit vote for these.

I don't think it's one guy behind these and I don't think this one gave off any indication that he had a brown skin.

they said in an interview most of the UI is toggleable, including the damage numbers

but yeah I agree

>/po/ is full of retards these days.
I know. They can't even make a half-way decent tiger

>cyberpunk dystopia
>sunny and blue skies

2077 confirmed blunder of the year. Preorder canceled

FWIW the city is portrayed as a crime ridden hell hole, not a utopia. Also gonna pirate this, so I can play without supporting these cunts.

>waaaaa, i'm canceling muh preorder they didn't offer for the game I wasn't going to buy anyway because climate change

>sunny and blue skies
It's California tho?

why i thought the guys that made witcher are based?

Idiots expecting night time 24/7 will never cease to amaze me.

They are. You're being lied to.

oh no! Please don't use our own tactics against us....you wouldn't want to be a SJW, right?

Right, so they can subvert the entire industry to push a political agenda but if we point this out we are the problem.
Fuck you

you sound insanely stupid

>city full of shitskins like mexicans
>big surprise, it also happens to be filled with crime and degeneracy
morale of the story seems redpilled at first glance

>if your enemies use guns against you , you cant use guns against them.

ya sure.....

it seems like 2077 is a peak into the future,

spics everywhere
corpos control everything
rampant crime
everyone is poor except the (((1 percent)))

Conditioning us probably.

You sound positively retarded. What do you expect from gunplay? It is never going to get more exciting than "PEW PEW PEW POINT THE GUN AND CLICK".
Almost all shooting games suck ass, it's everything else in the game that makes it good.

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