Why is national independence desirable?
Surely decisions should be made on the basis of what is good overall, not just what's good for one country.
Why is national independence desirable?
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because the EU does not represent the European people and they never will
Who cares about that though? The people are uninformed and have little incentive to become informed; the EU elite are experts in their fields
clearly….
if they are so intelligent then why is their shitty union failing so hard?
Doesn't matter how many policy papers you write or conferences you attend. There's no great brotherhood of nations, people vote their interests, and the interests of Germans are fundamentally different from the interests of Greeks. Same goes for every other country.
if you want a good, solid explanation that will help you understand why you're wrong, you'll give this a watch. But you don't, so you won't.
Here is the issue, EU is trying to extinguish national identity, and our culture. This basically means destroying Europe. There is no going around this, and there is no building Europe from the ashses after this. Once destroyed it is fucking destroyed
If you're too naiive to understand that the root of patriotism and community lies in shared history and culture then fucking hell, I cant help you. But that's how it is. There is no 1 European history, there is PLENTY of cultures in Europe and we are all Great in our own way. But once you start fucking up the cultural fabric and bringing in massive immigration into the picture its all lost!
The patriotism, the optimism, and the scientific achievements. Every fucking cog and bolt in the mechanism of scientific and cultural advancement lost because of the greed and desires of the bunch of self proclaimed elitist cucks with No knowledge of how cultures work.
Not even in their fields much less in others
Not you tho, just generally speaking, tiered of all the PRO EU shills.
The last time Europe lost its culture was after Rome fell. There was 600 years of nothing after that. That's most likely what's going to happen once the fabric which keeps our respective nations together begins to deteriorate completely. The end of civilization
fucking hell an american that knows europe, did you ever visit europe or is shit you saw and read on the internet?
The EU is wacking it to your countrywomen getting r8ped. It's the ultimate cuck!
Because people across the globe do not have the same allegiances and interests equally distributed among every other place and human on the planet.
I could agree to this. But do you think the current oligarchs are doing the good of Europe or the good of the Jews?
more like expert thieves
I lived in Finland for two years, but that didn't really have any bearing on my knowledge of this in particular. Geopolitics and international affairs are a primary interest of mine, I spend a lot of time reading on those topics.
I also have a subscription to the guy in the video's website, which is wonderful and highly recommended.
Pic related more or less shows why people who aren't German aren't going to be happy with German experts running the show in the EU.
Yes, if the EU is not destroyed, then Europe is.
>Surely decisions should be made on the basis of what is good overall, not just what's good for one country.
Correct. Decisions should be made based on what is good for nation aka ethnic group. I'm all for EU if it gets its act together and begins protecting ethnic Europeans like it should instead of killing them.
Sweden, Uk and Norway operate with the same system as far as I know, hidden unemployment is through the roof here
nothing of value lost, I'm sick of fighting your wars
what a fucking faggot
EU in current form is a joke.
We're fight for European cultures, not end them by globalization, Fuck the EU.
Because the man in Brussels knows not what is good for the man in Madrid, Lissabon, Utrecht, Berlin or Warsaw, Most don't even know what's good for Duinkerk!
Every Empire or large landmass union has been destroyed from within or by outside influences! When will man learn that a Central decision making power should reach no further than the edge of the town, city or hamlet?
EU fucked up the job market, first they impose quotas on production and destroyed jobs and later when the bubble bursted and they "supported" the creation of new jobs that were all based on clientele and buying loyalties
good government is subjective; it depends on the culture of the governed. one size fits all is always suboptimal on the local scale.
Because it is good for the global population (which are mostly niggers who cant even read or write) that you give up 99% of your wealth and 99% of your food and share it out so we can all be as fucked up as they are.
Understand, we are the 1% of the 1%, the technically literate, relatively stable country inhabiting, relatively highly educated and intelligent. The distance we have to fall, to even be at the level of the average beetle eating sub-saharan is vast.
How many rats did you have to toast today for lunch?
Conflicting priorities
Fucking /thread
the eternal kraut ladies and gentlemen
What is good overall.
overall.
Whose fucking overall?
What's fucking new here?
Seriously.
HURR WE CONSOLIDATE POWER HERE BECAUSE WE KNOW BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU.
Stop.
Holy shit I want to kill you so much Quisling piece of shit cunt.
I like the way you write :^)
you know who else are uninformed on the vast amount of subjects? The experts.
Sure, in a perfect world, the experts would be the authorities in their fields, but that's not how any attempt at a technocracy has worked out. What you get instead is some guy, probably really, really smart, making decisions on areas where he is absolutely clueless. Think astrophysicists making decisions on law. Or psychologists making decisions on defense. Or the EU's problem; economists making decisions on EVERYTHING.
Democracy works better than any attempt at a technocracy ruled by "the smart people", because the smart people are usually just smart in their own narrow fields, and more often than not, their small narrow fields overlap other fields, where they have no clue, and there's really noone to decide which experts to listen to when you have overlap.
While the masses of people, while stupid individually, actually make good decisions as a group. The stupidity is washed away by mediocrity, avoiding the worst disasters. And that's pretty much what makes a good society, not the ever longing for Utopia, but avoiding disasters. We're never getting Utopia, but we might fight off the disaster.
Same applies to Britain regarding England Wales and Scotland. Same applies to any single country and it's provinces. Same applies to every province versus its towns.
The main issue for jobs is twofold. One, the EU is built around an exporter, Germany, and the Germans are too efficient. They export 50% of their GDP. Imagine what the condition of Canada & Mexico would be if the US exported 10 trillion dollars worth of goods. Think they'd still be in NAFTA? Fuck no because they'd all be out of work.
Second, the Euro's value is something of an average between the value of the hypothetical currencies of each of the member nations. This means it's too cheap for Germany and too expensive for Greece. What do you get with a weak currency? More exports, since other nations can buy your products for a good value. What do you get with a higher currency? More imports, since you can buy goods from other countries at a better value. This simultaneously makes Germany an extremely competitive exporting power while simultaneously destroying the ability of other European nations to compete with it.
People aren't lying when they say the EU is the 4th Reich. It's German domination of the continent under the guise of diplomacy and "free trade". The Deutschebank examiners weren't tricked by the Greeks. They loaned them money because they needed to keep their export partners buying. Because as soon as they stop buying, unemployment in Germany rises precipitously. And when German unemployment rises, men with mustaches tend to show up and things start to get lively.
order well the states
ne'er shall they ruinate
we gotta have rules and divide
or else we'll all lose our minds
thats why i stay i the USA
one is the closest thing to zero, you see
so the EU is in a state of anarchy
Which is why there needs to be more fiscal consolidation on the EU/euro level to go along with the monetary policy, with a higher percentage of total taxation on the European level, European social security etc. Also increased geographical mobility of labour, which between European states is very low compared to labour mobility between states in the US.
At the moment, the pro-EU leaders, Soros, Attali, and so on, all of them, all see in the EU today the pole of the great global unification of the peoples of Europe passing through a bio- miscegenation, the opening of borders and institutional anti-racism, the federating myth of this institution being that of the mixed man, out of Africa, of a secular Christian paradise in this case of a nation without nationalisms or ethnic differentialism, a supposedly pacified, harmonious and painless land.
All these messianic ideals of social democrats atheists and neo-hegelians shot to scientific positivism, of course, struggle not to mask their bio-political nature, which de facto constitute them as the negative of the ideals of "racial purity" and unification of peoples by the Aryan purification of the Nazis. In other words, the strict equivalent. Any candidate opposed to this diktat would be out of the game by any means possible and unimaginable, on the other hand any candidate opposed to the ideas of left would take a cabal in the mouth, certainly. Media unanimity and political correctness do not emerge from the EU. Moreover, some EU countries are less affected than others, cf. Hungary and Poland.
The European Commission therefore sends governments a roadmap that they are obliged to apply, and I want to show the relentlessness of the Government, if the EU does not pass the laws, it obliges States and their respective parliaments to vote and enforce them, sometimes by force.
>European social security
Hah, that's a non starter friend. You can't even afford those programs now, much less in 10 years when 50% of your population is retired.
>I want to show the relentlessness of the Government, if the EU does not pass the laws, it obliges States and their respective parliaments to vote and enforce them, sometimes by force.
Please give us examples and proof Zuider-broer
The content of the programs, such as retirement age, height of benefits etc can be discussed and set according to what is affordable, that's besides the point. The point is that a unified monetary policy needs a more unified fiscal policy (including social security).
Two laws dealing with the same subject at the same time in two different countries ... coincidence, let's see!
The law el khomri, the macron law, come from the BEPGs (broad political and economic guidelines) which are set by the European Commission.
Coincidentally at the time of the working law, the belgians also suffer strikes because of a similar project. no no it's not at all European instructions, it's a simple coincidence
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the president of europe who says this: "To say that everything will change because there is a new government in Athens, is to take his desires for realities (...) There can be no democratic choice against the European treaties .. "
of the same person "Wenn es dann kein großes Geschrei gibt und keine Aufstände, Weil die meisten gar nicht begreifen, was da beschlossen wurde, dann machen wir weiter - Schritt für Schritt, bis kein Zurück mehr gibt."
who translates means "we make a decision and then we put it on the table and we wait a little bit to see what happens, if it does not provoke either outcry or riot parcels most people do not understand anything that has been decided , we continue, step by step to the point of no return "
The moron theory. Having a government far distant from you is good. Having nobody who can support the needs of the most instead of the goodies of the elites is bad.
I am not a communist, but completely free market tend to form an oligarchy and a lot of monopolies and oligopolies.
EU is the government of corporation ... just have a look of what it means ... and this is just the beginning .... next step 1984 and corporation totalitarism.
shut up fagit
It does.
Freedom in division.
>what is overall
>heres millions of niggers and muslims you racist!
>oops jews control the EU you racist!
yes, just submit you worms and trust your masters.lol
You are way too late, it's over and they know it. You do prob too.
Global governance is just a pipe dream.