Any minute any human isn’t working towards the goal of space colonization and space exploration (or at least indirectly supporting this goal) is a minute wasted. Prove me wrong.
We are sitting on a small rock in a vast ocean with billions of islands. Some politicians argue we should just keep sitting on the rock until everything on it is used up, damaged or overpopulation kills off most of us so we can return to prehistoric civilization levels. Why are there only a few rational people advocating we take to the sea to explore new worlds, seek out new civilizations? We are literally those suckers from the Easter Islands right now.
The Space Economy: How to crash all economies that depend on exporting minerals and ruin millions of lives in the process
Eli Turner
More like how to create a billion new industries with cheap as shit resources
We're talking post-scarcity nigger
Joshua Clark
hey atleast that means more people willing to risk their lives as colonists.
Thomas Rogers
They are going to kill you when they don't need you anymore. Technology only produces more unemployment.
Juan Morales
Fine, mining asteroids is also ok. I just dislike the idea of being a modern Rapa Nui kind of person. But everything feels this way, the Green-Lefty SJWs which say we “got to stop growing and limiting ourselves, we only have 1 Earth”, the religious leaders preaching “Earth was created by God and there is no other, it is unique”, the politicians which are saying “Space exploration has to be done by private businesses for profit”... then they turn around and hand gibmees to the likes of Boeing and SpaceX to just rehash the glory 1960s.
I think if we as a species put our collective minds at the problem, we could do a shitton of things in space. Mass drivers could put millions of tons of structure in orbit. Nuclear propulsion could take us around in our solar system. And hell, why should Harold White’s NASA warp drive concepts be developed further or some other advanced spaceflight concept come about?
Hunter Green
What? That’s like saying computers killed the pocket calculator industry... and that is bad. Or smartphones killed the dumb flipphone industry and we got to go back!
Jordan Campbell
You can't travel faster than light. It would take millions of years to reach other habitable planets. The planets in this solar system are not habitable.
Carter Anderson
>wahhh why don't we have space exploration or real evolutions in the space race anymore
because communism and the soviet union is is dead. sending shit into space isn't profitable. capitalism isn't good at inventing new breakthrough technology, just making what we have more marketable and efficient. you need insane amounts of government research to do shit like "space".
not if you don't live in a neoliberal capitalist hellhole where full automation and break technological breakthroughs means a majority of people losing their livelihoods.
the genius anarcho capitalist says "get rid of the tractor and have 50 people rake the fields so i can pay them and keep the economy good" instead of "the workers own the means of production so as technology gets better productivity and wages still increase"
I've met gambling addicts who are more in touch with their actual chances of success than any communist.
Kayden Murphy
We'll talk socialism when we're post-scarcity Until then fuck off commie
Gavin Fisher
we dont need communism for that. any totalitarian government will do.
Brayden Thompson
Humans aren’t designed to live on oceans... so we built ships and submarines.
Jesus H. Christ, at your attitude, we all would still be sitting on trees saying we should never roam the great plains and hunt big game “because we weren’t design to throw speers”.
Ryder Lee
Factually innacurate memes are the worst. Proving yet again that the Left can’t meme. Or produce posts of good quality for that matter.
Matthew Lewis
Your first link doesn't prove anything.
>Says who? Physics.
Jackson Lopez
>Humans aren’t designed to live on oceans... so we built ships and submarines.
But the ships and submarines are ON OUR SAME PLANET. It's a matter of distances. Do you know how far the closest system is to us, in miles? Compare this to the distance from Europe to the Americas. Do you understand what I'm saying to you?
Sebastian Garcia
It says it is entirely possible from a physics point of view to travel from point A to point B at what seems to be faster than light speeds without actually going anywhere close to c.
Ohhhh.... so now it is ok to say that we built ships to survive in a hostile environment and cross vast distances, because it happens on Earth. But the same analogy for spaceflight is BS? Are you by any chance... a priest?
Alexander Russell
If that was possible, aliens would be here already, so it's moot to even try. But since aliens aren't here, it isn't possible.
Jonathan Wright
>yo check out smart nigger he's basically jesus KYS
Carter Howard
And who says that even if we can achieve faster than light speeds that we'd even be the same beings when we come through? Ever thought of that?
>it is ok to say that we built ships to survive in a hostile environment and cross vast distances, because it happens on Earth.
I'm saying that it's an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL. Maybe we shouldn't go into space. Maybe we would become something grotesque. IDK man, if we can survive for another few hundred thousand years on Earth then maybe, but not anytime soon.
>How to destroy Africa and China Sounds good to me.
Gavin Thomas
Lefties are just pissed that their e-car runs on coal fired electricity and we lack the energy to atomically recycle all human trash. Only outer space can close the gap in supporing this level of tech and population long term.
Caleb Myers
Or maybe we should just be as weird as possible and send, for example, frozen corpses into space. Maybe in a few million years some alien civilization will find them and reanimate them to see what we're like. Can you imagine? The space kikes wake you up and the first thing you do is meme GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW and so the alliums replicate you as their new soldier against the space kikes and you go through infinite lives fighting space kikes on a thousand worlds, never remembering your home or that you are a slave to the OTHER kind of space kike.
C'mon, we need more ideas, I'm going to write a novel about this shit.
Brayden Richardson
It's not even original
Easton Thomas
OK, how about we experiment with what happens after hyper-light travel.
So you wake up on a spaceship. You look at your hand, and don't remember the flippers. >AFTER-LIGHT
Now you want to wake up your crew mates for flipper-sex. OH SHIT. You become a flipper-rapist. BAD BOY.
Easton Morales
Even worse, you become the puppet of another, more advanced civilization before you can resolve yourself from faster-than-light travel. They turn you into a giant silicone-based spider. And so you never know from where you came, but then they send you back home and you eat all of humanity because the giant silicone spiders thought it would be funny. Ever thought of that?
Jaxon Smith
Other islands have oxygen on them.
Chase Carter
autism speaks
Colton Butler
I know. What happens when everything happens just like you want it to? You find that bug-eyed green betty and you bang that 'bitch'. But then you find out that you've been 'colonized'. I'm talking little green larvae coming from your dick hole. How would you feel then? Like a conqueror? OR like the conquered?
fuck you man if you think you have better SF ideas let's hear 'em
Aaron Rogers
>be this autistic
Noah Ward
That's actually from a SF novel. You can call me all kinds of shit, but I'm not that original
Dylan Johnson
What novel is it ?
Jason Johnson
I'm just joking I made all this shit up, but it's loosely based on other novels or short stories. The frozen corpse one is based on Isaac Asimov's 'The End of Eternity', and the silicone spiders are based off of Michael Swanwicks' story 'Giggungagap'. All of it's with a touch of me, though. Hope you had fun reading it!
Nolan Carter
Thanks.
Jonathan Hall
>Implying we need to live on planets. The future is Von Braun wheels then O'Neil cylinders.
Aaron Flores
It's also a theme in Liu Cixin's Death's End (3-body problem trilogy).
Xavier Adams
>what is c humanity will die on this rock
Tyler Baker
>While it is never safe to affirm that the future of Physical Science has no marvels in store even more astonishing than those of the past, it seems probable that most of the grand underlying principles have been firmly established and that further advances are to be sought chiefly in the rigorous application of these principles to all the phenomena which come under our notice. It is here that the science of measurement shows its importance — where quantitative work is more to be desired than qualitative work. An eminent physicist remarked that the future truths of physical science are to be looked for in the sixth place of decimals. Albert Michelson 1894.
Absence of evidence =/= evidence of absence.
Daniel Carter
What about cleaning toilets. You know, disease prevention n’shieet
How about clean up after yourself? If you want to know what most of humanity is, work on the road, and have to use public bathrooms. I don't care what the minimum wage is, or how much free healthcare exists, it won't make up for niggardliness.
Tyler King
But how will we afford to feed niggers to endlessness self replicate if we don't cut military and space and all that toxic white scientific research funding?
fpbp i have plans to capture asteroids, bring them to Earth's Lagrange points and mine them until they cease to exist. Or threaten countries with annihilation if they try anything funny
Liam Green
>Prove me wrong. You're wrong 'cos, science will go inwards not outwards. Confused? The space inside of an atom comparatively is the size of a cluster of galaxies and we know it's immense power. Therefore expect bigger, faster Large Hadron Colliders to explore the inner nature as opposed space ships and the exploration of 'outer nature' that is space. Because for certain there are biological constraints that for the best will in the world we cannot overcome to traverse space sufficiently -not in this or the next century at least (perhaps another 500years.)
Owen Johnson
(OP)
>Some politicians argue we should just keep sitting on the rock until everything on it is used up, damaged or overpopulation kills off most of us so we can return to prehistoric civilization levels.
Should also add that with the exploration of 'inner space' will come more realistic virtual realities which we reduce the pressures on resources etc. Space Operas are a cool but unrealistic dream according the current direction science is going i.e inwards.
Joshua Cooper
Choose an option
You are an alien species on a planet with limited resources which is ostensibly in the process of being irrevocably changed so it will no longer be habitable as it is now.
#Option 1: Would you expend all of your fuel and resources trying to find another rock at great cost and distance to live the same way.
Or
#Option 2: Develop technologies and virtual realities to 'live' in, thereby reducing your impact upon the world and slowing or perhaps deterring any irrevocable environmental change which would render your rock uninhabitable.
If aliens exist on some remote planet, I believe if sufficiently advanced they have gone for option 2. As stated, to us right now, the exploration of 'inner-space' is far easier than the exploration of 'outer-space' and could have bigger pay offs.
200years from now, your great great great great grandchildren better get used to being NEETs living in a GTA5 virtual reality, because that will be their life.
James Morgan
Look the more we reach out for space the more we damage Earth. That's 1 thing. Second. Space colonization might fail and there are a bunch of scenarios bow it could. Even in the case it won't fail and we will find a nice planet to inhabit it doesn't mean we will eventually. Third. Don't be a Nigger and take care of your room/house/city/country/planet because it's more likely we are stuck here for good.
>We would like to explore, Im sorry burger mutt, unless you're Spanish or trace your lineage back to the British, you never explored anything.
You are the offspring of either a bunch of posh little freeloading upstarts who didnt want to pay their tea tax; or a bunch of people who were once conquered by the Muslims e.g Iberian Peninsula Spain.
Cameron Bailey
So Option 2 then. see
Kayden White
Option 3. Sig deeper into the core and discover that it's rich in everything we Blackmon the surface. Option 4. Develop into mermaids and fuck off to live in the ocean
Carter Lewis
Lack on
Christopher Mitchell
Ahem ahem
Carson Jones
Actually yeah. They've been here long before us and that begs a question: what a fuck are they doing here if their civilizations are far more advanced and prosperous, hm? Wut? Yeah, you've guess right: because earth is better than their native shitty planet
Liam Nelson
Kek
Sebastian Peterson
>Option 4. Develop into mermaids and fuck off to live in the ocean Yeah I like this. We could genetically alter ourselves to become Turritopsis dohrnii, a jellyfish that lives forever, unless it succumbs to predators
Lincoln Reed
Ideas of space utopia are a ball and chain. We're not going to colonise the universe.
Aaron Baker
>muh post-scarcity This is exactly what I mean. Space is a fantasy keeping commie utopianism alive.
Cooper Morgan
How fucking retarded are you there is plenty of evidence supporting the ufo phenomenon. Only thing we don’t know is if this is alien tech and black budget projects tech. Either way these flying saucers defy the law of physics, fly at extremely fast speeds, and are capable of space travel. So it’s definitely possible
Kevin Kelly
>Space colonization might fail
You can only fail if you give up on it.
Blake Nguyen
Here's the real problem user.
One of the first missions to use ion drive technology was the Deep Space 1 mission to Comet Borrelly that took place in 1998. DS1 also used a xenon-powered ion drive, consuming 81.5 kg of propellant. Over 20 months of thrusting, DS1 was managed to reach a velocity of 56,000 km/hr (35,000 miles/hr) during its flyby of the comet.
Ion thrusters are therefore more economical than rocket technology, as the thrust per unit mass of propellant (a.k.a. specific impulse) is far higher. But it takes a long time for ion thrusters to accelerate spacecraft to any great speeds, and the maximum velocity it can achieve is dependent on its fuel supply and how much electrical energy it can generate.
So if ionic propulsion were to be used for a mission to Proxima Centauri, the thrusters would need a huge source of energy production (i.e. nuclear power) and a large quantity of propellant (although still less than conventional rockets). But based on the assumption that a supply of 81.5 kg of xenon propellant translates into a maximum velocity of 56,000 km/hr (and that there are no other forms of propulsion available, such as a gravitational slingshot to accelerate it further), some calculations can be made.
In short, at a maximum velocity of 56,000 km/h, Deep Space 1 would take over 81,000 years to traverse the 4.24 light years between Earth and Proxima Centauri. To put that time-scale into perspective, that would be over 2,700 human generations. So it is safe to say that an interplanetary ion engine mission would be far too slow to be considered for a manned interstellar mission.
Jacob Campbell
Man mines asteroids Man knocks asteroid towards Earth Man kills all life on Earth do to greed.
Justin Diaz
Brownies want gibs, space exploration redirects away from gibs. Plus leftie know theyd have to live with the brownies left on earth
Oliver Jones
>there is plenty of evidence supporting the ufo phenomenon
I'll bite. Most important years of UFO research rests in a very short period of two years between 1947 and 1949 before the white wash, 'limited hangout' that was Project blue book, and and Project Grudge was Project SIGN. Chances are you've not heard of Project Sign.
This is corner stone of investigating the UFO phenomena, because everything after this has been obfuscated or be imbued with disinformation. The most important site on the internet in regards to UFO research is below disclosing the official declassified docs, where Colonels brief USAF Generals, inexplicably shitting themselves while admitting they dont know what it is, and wondering how the Russians got so advanced with their flying machines??
They even wonder if the German scientists that the Russians caught were better than the ones the Yanks signed up. It's all here. Nothing else comes close to the truth. There's a lot to it.
Communism know in space or even say mars colony there is no room for social justice,racial wokeness. There is only dont fuck up and survive. Anyone caught doing fuckery on mission where the stakes for everyone is binary life or death will be immediately executed. Which means No commies or left wing thought in space. It will be right wing militarism. MCRN
Jacob Howard
It was an extremely low powered ion drive and technologies improve to make it more efficient. Nuclear power or fusion power could do the trick
Asher Myers
>implying the jews will ever allow the goyim to leave the planet
