Reddit actually believes the concept of race has been disproven

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Reddit actually believes the concept of race has been disproven

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stop the fucking presses

call race breed instead.

They'll have to disprove the categorisation of the entire animal kingdom

i'm not sure dismantled is the same as disprove
i think the full click bait title would be something like
>this italian doctor took apart the concept of race and what he found will surprise you

We did it guys!

He and his family were commies, he was expelled from school because of racial laws and then was almost caught by the German troops - as Wikipedia says.

There's something fishy here.

reddit app gave me a notification about that post

>linking to reddit
look homo NYPA

if someone of subsaharan descent and someone of nordic descent have a child, what race does this child belong to?

Some people mentioned that...

Sry I'm phoneposting

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Anyone got a name? She's really hot.

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Haha links reddit.

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The front page of his book conforms with 'racial' science. All he did was give the usual liberal platitudes to continuums and 'we are all humans' so he could get down to his real work of creating a phylogenetic tree of humanity, which he did and showed pretty much no surprises, at least for racists.

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>humans weren't bred to be different

Hence we have for less breeds than dogs do. Doesn't mean we're all the same.

Please be satire

her face is blank desu

i like how they call people who believe race exist "racists",yet they claim that race doesnt exist,so how can you be racist if race doesnt exist?
What is the iq of these subhumans?

Genes don't even do anything. Epigenetic and environmental influences are many times more significant.

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nah m8, it's a reference to selective breeding.
dogs were selected to look different, we (humans) look different because of chance.
there's no race chromosome, every single trait that you think is specific to a race can be found in someone from a different race.
that's why the concept of race is dodgy at best.

>Genes don't even do anything.
Imagine being this fucking stupid.

What the he'll did I just read?

This is a crock of shit. Epigenetics has been overblown almost as much as 'priming', which has dominated psychology for 30 years. In typical developed nations the environment has almost no impact on outcomes, as shown in countless twin studies.

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>genes don’t do anything
>but epigenetics does

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Adopted twins disprove this
thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/the-heritability-of-iq/

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sauce?

Just the way I like it

Cavalli-Sforza's book was relevant in the late 90s, not nearly in the 2020s. They brought this up in our medias too because the guy just recently died.

Amerimutt

Tan lines fukkkkkk

>all this postmodernist goalpost moving

honestly we should just genocide the redditors at this point

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none, it becomes formless matter, a mongrel

yeah and we are extremely genetically similar to animals, so what now? ignore all the crucial differences?

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Cavalli-Sforza recanted all of his "debunking" before dying, because he mostly attacked a strawman of race that nobody ever put forward

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There are people who people wouldn't consistently classify into the same group, but this just means the categories aren't 100% reliable.

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>the crucial differences
Which only exist in the minds of crackheads with bizarre claims of superiority?

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>there's no race chromosome
>that's why the concept of race is dodgy at best
You need to kill yourself now.

holy fuck

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Watson is leagues above Cavalli-Sforza

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Amazing how people can't into basic statistics. The caucasian IQ average is set at baseline 100 with standard deviation of 15.

A subsaharan African average IQ can be as low as 60. That is FOUR standard deviations below that of an caucasian. That is a 1 in 15787 chance that those groups belong to the same cluster. Well below any margin of error.

This is fucking first year college theory.

Muh dick

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That is wrong. Race is not defined by chromosome differences. Different chromosome numbers imply different sets of genes and that would mean you would look at different species. What you need to find are allele (the variation of information on the gen) differences to define a race and that we can easily do (10 to 15% regional differences for Humans). Also do we not look different by chance. Melanin concentrations are defined by selection pressure through the environment and phenotype selection is built on our evolution as a social species and in-group preferences.

it's called "clean"

Smells (((fishy)))

This one is specially for Cavalli-Sforza (RIP)

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Reddit know jack shit about Sforza, tbqh

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>we (humans) look different because of chance
top kek, our great selective agent was nature itself, which may be slow, but still very effective
>there's no race chromosome, every single trait that you think is specific to a race can be found in someone from a different race
no shit, the same is valid for dogs as well, point is that race doesn't need to be defined at the single loci, but it's rather something that emerges as overall structure
height is something that is regulated by a tons of genes that work together, you won't really find a single one that differentiates Mbuti Pygmies from the Dutch, but nevertheless, Dutch people are much taller at the racial level than Pygmies

but even if you say so, there are plenty of single mutations in humans that are essentially almost fixed in a "race" and completely absent in others
for instance, the mutation in the SLC24A5 gene that gives light skin to west Eurasians is pretty much at 100% in Europeans but essentially 0 in SSA and east Asians
the mutation in he EDAR gene that gives asians their characteristic hair is fixed in east Asia and essentially absent in Europe and Africa
and that's just looking at one gene

What have we really tested, though? All these people have grown up in such different environments that the whole thing is borderline meaningless.
If you want actual results, you should be raising a few generations of people from different races in complete isolation in a lab under identical conditions. Only then will it be worth anything.

We didn't even know these () things when Cavalli-Sforza was writing by the way. His theories are insanely outdated and debunked.

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>They'll have to disprove the categorisation of the entire animal kingdom
If you call it subspecies, they would.

The selection that occurs in a natural environment can cause huge changes in organisms just as with selective breeding

Even if any single trait overlaps between races, you can still categorise people based on combinations of genes.

>Top 10 reasons why only white skinned people are born racist, number 7 will BLOW YOUR MIND

See: (better/equal than your experiment)
and (undeniable evidence)

I think this is her too

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Neither. It's a hybrid.

You can still exclude likely environmental effects using twin studies and transracial adoption.

This was a big red pill to me as a teenager in the 90s. There wasn't really an internet to share redpills on, so you would literally be finding yourself thinking 'surely nobody is retarded enough to believe that race is a social construct and believe iq doesn't matter and people can see this for the silly propaganda it is' but if you were not completely autistic you'd be smart enough to shut up about it.

How many people are actually that retarded remains an open question to this day. I think there is a fair split in the end between sheeple who really swallow it, a lot of doctrinaire marxists who don't care about the truth but will loudly repeat everything they believe advances their narrative, but the number of people worthy of that word is growing fast I think, and is nowadays perhaps the silent majority.

This is the liberating power of calling people niggers on the internet. Don't underestimate it; and don't underestimate the likelihood that they will shut this down.

What does transracial adoption even matter when you have blacks with better environment scoring lower than whites with worse environments?

there's a huge logical leap from saying 100% genetically homogeneous races don't exist and saying race doesn't exist at all. these people have a problem with how "race" is defined and rather than outline a more accurate description of the very real genetic variability in human populations, they instead disregard the word altogether.

>chance
literally what? Throughout human history humans have selected their mate based on how attractive they find them; a term used to describe the chemical reactions in our brain when we are paired with someone we naturally are paired with.
Humans have been the most selective animal out there, who instead of following their natural drive and fuck everyone close by, they find someone they "fit" with; based on chemical reactions and other internally produced stimuli.

>hurr durr let me use the tier-1 argument presented by low-iqs who dont understand the subject they talk about; there are larger differences inside the subspecies than between 2 different subspecies

how many africans have blue eyes? or even green?
How many asians have naturally blond hair?
How many Europeans have completely dark skin?
why does an abo look like an eskimo if we are all the same? it shouldnt matter when the population-movement occurred if we are the same now does it?
this anti-scientific political correctness is absolutely unacceptable to be promoted by media-people.
You are an embarresment to this board.

S-she may be a bit young...

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if any scientist writes a paper which says race is real they will get death threats - this isn't science lol

>Humans weren't bred to be different

There's plenty of naturally occurring cat and dog breeds. The "mutts" look different between regions.

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Secret X Factor

Strictly clothed, so it's cool

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How much she charge per hour?

here's a PCA of dog "breeds" around the mediterranean sea and leftists beloved "clines" disproving the very existence of these dog breeds

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Different races do better on different parts of iq-tests. Blacks are better at pattern recognition for example, but are overall scoring lower on other parts.
Also blacks in america had acess to education for a long time and do worse than whites regardless of income.

The secret factor are these genes:

name right now or we samson entire earth

>tan lines
muh dick

fuck off you're just gonna try to make her do porn

@evieerikson

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>her face
>her body
>her tanline
>mfw i'll never be with some rostie like this one

>Blacks are better at pattern recognition for example

this is the stupidest shit I've ever heard

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It's a hybrid.

Are we claiming hybrids don't exist now?

Because some corn farmers might disagree with that.

Has vernazza the fag shown up yet?

Im not 100% on pattern recognition but its true

Homunculus

a small price to pay
a shekel for you

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It's not. The surrounding society is always going to affect your self image and your expectations of what you're capable of reaching.
Higher earning blacks often live in the same areas as their less well off counterparts and their children mix freely. Cultural memes of how blacks are supposed to act continue to hurt their interest in putting proper effort into their education as well. Even Obama has commented on this phenomenon of trying to avoid "acting white".
To say that is anywhere close to being comparable is mere folly.

This.

It's like how Marxists have their definitions of "ideology" and surprise, Marxism isn't an ideology according to all these bullshitting Marixst academics!

Because normies don't know the difference between race and species.

stop embarassing us retard

Seing as pattern recognition is like 90% of an IQ test, why are they so dogshit at them?

>top kek, our great selective agent was nature itself, which may be slow, but still very effective

Don't forget sexual selection and infanticide. Hunter-gatherers often killed like every other baby born.

>race no longer exists
Good, now niggers cant blame whitey any more

African, let's be real. They wouldn't have the brain power or empathy to thrive in a Nordic country, and likely, their skin tone would cause vitamin D deficiency and lead to cancer anyways. Dumb, violent, can't handle cold, fits neatly in with Africans and Mexicans, call a spade a spade already.

So are doctors crackheads when they take into account race when prescribing a patient?

So now you're arguing that a white person living in abject poverty is better off than a black person whose parents are rich because muh expectations. Wow, I guess we never needed economics, we just need to tell people that they're smart! You're a retard, and you ignored the strongest evidence: the literal genes that makes us different.

I hate how these fucks worship science but don't understanding how scientific theories work.

well there goes my 15 karma I saved up over the years

Kek