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I need a counter argument for this
Easton Anderson
Christian Brown
>Conservative Hero
To NeoCons and Evangelicals
Andrew Jones
They're protesting different things. She was praised because of the content of her protest, not the fact she protested at work. Whereas that knee-bending nog protested something that doesn't even exist: police brutality against blacks.
Adam Turner
It's a valid point, and one that we as conservatives need to address. We need to decide on the principle to stick to and then apply it consistently. Double standards are the hallmark of the liberal.
So: Is it, or is it not, okay to protest while representing your employer, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE AGREE WITH THE THING BEING PROTESTED?
I personally feel, no, this is not okay, across the board. In both cases, they need to do what their employer expects or find a new job. That being said, it's up to the employer (and not Congress) to enforce this.
James Nelson
neither of them should protest at work.
she is not a hero.
he is not a hero.
They are shameful
Kevin Adams
Pretty much this
Brandon James
>"working" 3 hours a day, 20 days a year
KEK
Nolan Gomez
hypocrisy is unavoidable. any position a human holds will be logically incompatible with other positions, and opponents can easily spot them. mental gymnastics ensue.
people need to move away from "premise" based politics (which inevitably lead to contradictory conclusions) to teleological politics. "what world do you want to live in?"
in this case it would be "I don't want niggers making a spectacle of dishonoring the flag (or for that matter, glorifying niggers at all), and I don't want sodomites getting married." everything else follows from that.
pretending to be for or against whatever principle will lead you into looking like a hypocrite eventually.
Alexander Hernandez
put another way, just be upfront about what you really want. better to be openly racist than to struggle to contort some neutral principle into a preferred outcome.
Cameron Nguyen
>top
upstanding white people
>bottom
nigger mutts
Daniel Kelly
I agree. She should have quit her job in protest if she thought she would be doing something that she thought would violate her faith.
Landon Butler
Elected official
Laws changed during her term in office
Kapernick was a system baby who hadn't done anything in 2 years and was under a new coaching staff.
Joseph Hernandez
it depends what you protest against LOL how hard is that?
Jace Sanchez
No one should care about the niggerkneelers. You should kneel too. Hell, you should bend over and moon the fucking masonic dishrag. It's certainly not your country anymore anyway white man, progs made sure of that. It's just a symbol of the crawling chaos that is amurrika now. The all-consuming neoliberal empire of nothing for no one.
Luis Ward
"""""work"""""
Samuel Phillips
These uppidy nogs' "work" consists of playing football for a few months out of the year and going to the gym, and they make fucking millions, then these stupid fucking nigs have the fucking gull to complain about "racsim" and muh "hands up dont shoot" when they are the most privledged and fucking pampered motherfuckers on the planet. Fucking actors and celebreties shouldnt be allowed to make the money they do, and when i say "allowed" i mean people need to not hold them in such a high light and throw fucking bills at their feet like theyre some kind of religious figure
Jordan Flores
One got thrown in prison, the other get a shoe deal
Sebastian Reyes
There is none, it's blatant hypocrisy. You're a fucking moron for feeding into sensationalism about people kneeling for attention.
Just like people were morons to give attention to the fat old lady.
Brandon Powell
Dont know if typo or diamond dozen mistake...but its gall not gull.
Ayden Cruz
Well dipshit just turn it around.
Players protest at work liberal heros.
She protests at work how dare her
Jose Garcia
For one, top was a stupid cunt who did absolutly nothing as there were other people that signed the licenses, bottom is a stupid nigger who did absolutly nothing as most niggers that get fucked by the popo brought it upon themselves pleasecooperate.jpg
Its the diffence between standing up for ones personal values and standing up (kneeling) for a forced propaganda narrative.
They are both idiots tho.
Kap better hope he never gets pulled over, cuz I feel he will just vanish if he does.
Elijah Nguyen
Im sorry, if your job title has any variation of the word play in it, you arent working, its not work. Work means you create/produce/build. Sports ball fags do none of those things in the course of their "job"
Carson Turner
She protested following the law and doing her job because she feared an invisible man in the sky would punish her after she dies.
The football americans were protesting the needless killing of unarmed football americans.
pretty simple
Logan Phillips
Leftist dishonest conflation
1. The content being complained about isnt merely because it's at work
2. The reasons for disliking the kneeling are varied, most of which have to do with the dishonest reason for hating the flag. The only reason leftists fuck with the flag is because hey are agitating. Not some deeper meaning, it's just "powerful", which really means it pisses people they dont agree with off
3. Individuals in government refusing to carry out a law they disagree with is fine. If they are fired for it, so be it, but disobeying a bullshit law, especially if its unconstitutional is praiseworthy
Tyler Wright
There's nothing to argue. County clerk bitch should have done her job. Still, at least her protest wasn't based on a lie. I'll give her that.
Adrian Long
Don't she was also wrong who cares if fags get married they just shouldnt be allowed to adopt
Isaiah James
>needless
Sure thing tyrone, sure thing.
More unarmed whites are killed by cops by far.
In fact fewer blacks are killed and more cops killed or injured by nigs because most cops hesitate for fear of being called racist.
Slavery was a mistake.
Isaac Howard
They are both assholes Your opinion, your politics and your religion have nothing to do with being someelses's employee.
Camden Ramirez
doesnt matter
cops are retarded faggots
jesus is a lie
kim davis is a fat retard
football is for closeted faggot white cucks
Isaac Taylor
this. Your option is to "protest quit" not refuse to do you duties while expecting a paycheck, benefits and a pension. That bitch worked for the state and gets paid with taxes. Fuck that socialist parasite.
Luis Wilson
My only issue with gay marriage is that they can get gay divorced.
If they wanted true equatable experience, they should not be allowed to get divorced for about 400 years.
>sure you can get married faggot
>*lisps* Great sweetie!
>yeah, you cant get divorced tho...straights had to stay together thick or thin so at least for several generations you faggots are going to have to take it seriously
>pulls dildo out of ass *record scratch* oh, well nevermind then, I was just doing it for the novelty.
I promise only a small SMALL percentage of queers would line up if that were the case.
Andrew Hernandez
You wouldn't need a counter-argument if you actually appreciated the value of free speech, you inconsistent, cancerous american brainlet.
Noah Gonzalez
what are you talking about?
Jason Moore
>not all cops
And yes jesus is a lie, your point?
What she was doing was based on personal principles, far more noble than being disrespectful for "muh feelings based on a lie"
Carson Bell
all these people in here coming up with excuses while refusing to admit the truth.
Its because she is white and he is black. Its racism simple as that.
If the races were reversed Colin Kaepernick would be a conservative hero.
You know this is true.
Daniel Parker
Yeah, she was a dumbass attention-seeker who failed to comply with the terms of her position, doesn't deserve defense regardless of opinion on gay marriage.
Brandon Martinez
Because it is about who and what they are protesting
Lincoln Edwards
There is nothing noble about hoisting your fat ass to the top of the wall of separation of church and state and sitting there like you matter.
Any religious outburst like that of any religion like that in a govt job should be grounds for removal and barred from holding office for life.
I don't give a fuck if we drop gays and football nggers out of airplanes onto syria, but seriously, fuck religion, keep it the fuck away from govt.
Brayden King
Let gays get married, who gives a fuck, just dont let them divorce...They want to be "equal" well straights couldnt get divorced willy nilly like today. It had to be fucking serious to get a divorce like one spouse was being violently abusive, or infidelity was found out. That was it. Used to be marrige meant something, it was a commitment, now, its no better than going "super" steady. Worthless.
But anyone that goes to the state for permmision to marry is a cuck anyway.
Just have a ceremony in front of God and friends and family, the state should have no say in it.
Cooper Watson
Anyone who stands up for personal principles, no matter how stupid is noble.
If you dont stand for something, you will fall for anything.
Ethan Murphy
But no conservative would kneel during the anthem you pathetic moron.
Caleb Rivera
They both should lose their jobs and are not heros to anyone but uppity niggers and country bumpkins.
Samuel Brown
>stands up
there is a caveat
"standing up" isn't just screaming popular things so you look better to your peers, and just because you have beliefs and defend them doesn't mean you have not fallen for something.
Daniel Hernandez
>just dont let them divorce...
They already divorce at a much lower rate than straights. Gay divorces are mainly angry dykes that are mentally unstable in the first place.
Liam Anderson
>Just have a ceremony in front of God and friends and family, the state should have no say in it.
You obviously have no money or assets worth a damn.
Julian Lopez
>Top
A lady who used tax payer dollars to break the law
>Bottom
A guy that play football and didn't break any law.
Jason Jenkins
>wall of separation of church and state
not in the constitution
Lucas Roberts
How can we meme fast food workers into stopping service for 10 minutes during lunch rush to protest for $15/hr?
Maybe than these fatass libtards will finally get it: do your fucking job!
Nathaniel Robinson
That's a country music hook.
I don't "stand up" for shit except myself.
I sure haven't fallen for anything.
She was trying to insert her religious law into her job, and thought the govt should work that way. She quickly found out that isn't the case.
The only thing she stood up for is bigotry and discrimination, and you can't do that in govt office, it ain't youtube.
Thomas Gutierrez
>Top
A lady fighting kike degeneracy
>Bottom
A nigger fighting for kike degeneracy
Jose Anderson
Keep screaming that, right up until the point we let these 90yo bought out fucks call a constitutional convention and turn us all into slaves.
Christopher Diaz
You can always admire and respect ones conviction, even if you do not agree with what they are doing as long as its valid. Many MANY people have issues with gays getting married...this is fact. Personally, like I said idc, just dont let them divorce.
Kap was trying to make a point that doesnt exist, blacks are NOT in any more danger from cops than anyone else, in fact the reverse is true simply because of their race and fear of backlash.
When you have a nonissue (BLM) versus something that has been traditionally accepted and ingrained for centuries...the one that stands for tradition, no matter how misguided or stupid is always more reputable than someone who cries about a non issue. Like I said, you dont have to agree with ones reasons for doing something, but should appreciate and respect their right to do so.
James Reyes
>Keep screaming that,
but its true
Colton Gomez
I know this,
what I'm saying, is that if you use "not i constitution" as a gold standard? eventually that will get turned on us all.
Hunter Turner
What if i dont? What if I do? Doesnt matter. When two people decide to get married its a symbol to everyone around them that they will forsake all others for their spose. No amount of money or assest should matter.
I understand the state gets money in marrige and divorce, but thats even more reason to leave them out of the deal.
Julian Torres
What is your point?
We shouldn't care what the constitution actually says?
Luke Ross
No, she was standing up for what SHE believed in, doesnt matter how stupid or misguided it was. And it was pointless anyway as other people just did her job and she accomplished nothing, but at least she made a stand. Which is far more than what most people would do today. Most people would give up their beliefs and convictions for a paycheck, fuck those people.
Henry Cooper
>Let gays get married, who gives a fuck
Because its not even about faggots getting married
It is about a kike court taking away the rights of states
Carson Thompson
>1 post by this ID
Kill yourself and sage
Isaac Walker
ding ding ding ding
Also, I forgot that her work involved running around for the enjoyment of spectators for millions of dollars once per week.
Lincoln White
>what I'm saying, is that if you use "not i constitution" as a gold standard? eventually that will get turned on us all.
that's one of the arguments against having a bill of rights.
that everything not explicitly stated in said bill of rights is fair game.
but
even shit in the bill of rights has been fucked with since it was established.
politics isn't about consistency or whatever, there are no political parties, there is just utilitarianism, which is why it's easy to separate voting habits by minority status/gender/whatever
because everyone has different walks in life and would benefit from different rules
the whole purpose of having different federal and state governments was to allow for this flexibility while also maintaining a union that would be capable enough to call the nation to it's own defense and fund/lead the militias
Lucas Reed
>bootlicker detected.
Ryder James
Wow. You really are a fucking idiot.
Ryder Anderson
well one of them actually took a risk. like she was a clerk at a shitty job living paycheck to paycheck, these other guys are obviously just doing this for attention, it isn't even really a protest
Joseph Bailey
>football
>work
Jeremiah Watson
There is nothing wrong with authoritarianism you limp wristed faggot
Nathaniel Williams
>Muh states rights
That died in 1865..
Nolan Thomas
Hand over your guns then fag. The authorities say so..
Alexander Jenkins
Ok so we should just let the feds consolidate power then?
Jaxson Stewart
I never saw that woman as a hero.
Easy.
David Nguyen
Nice treason of America right there m8
>criticizing the government is kike degeneracy
Flag checks out alright.
Blake Nelson
Member when Tebow used to pray after every touchdown and left wing ESPN and the NFL told him he was out of line and the field wasn’t a place for such displays
I member
Joshua Price
>Conservative hero
Literally who? And why should I care?
Grayson Peterson
No my point is there are laws that matter besides the constitution.
If you don't see how they matter go burn your drivers license, tell the next cop that pulls you that you are a free man, see how that works out.
She had a job. Nothing she personally believes means shit. She was more in the wrong than the footballers, because she denied others THEIR rights.
If I go burn a flag right now, I've hurt or wronged nobody, same as if lazy niggers kneel during a fucking propaganda song, which really shouldnt be played at sports events but
that's another discussion.
Landon Richardson
No
Just because I am an authoritarian doesnt mean I have to respect anyones authority
Lucas Murphy
How many jewish relatives to you have?
Hunter Gomez
>she was a clerk at a shitty job living paycheck to paycheck
I'm sure after retirement the quality of life for a clerk would exceed a nfl players
Christopher Gutierrez
One isnt protesting against the country itself by kneeling during the song that represents the country because of a mere political conviction
It was America under Obama and it is America under Trump, that shit doesn't change
Xavier Richardson
It's the supremacy clause. States can have rights as long as they are not in contrast with the federal law or court order.
Justin Allen
Not your personal army faggot, quit asking us for help arguing your nigger tier politics on Faceberg. Saged
Hunter Fisher
Not enough
Carson Lee
Jesus is on her side.
Jaxon Sanchez
The state of kentucky allowed for gay marriage few years back, fat cunt refused to sign off and file the certificates.
Brandon Gonzalez
>NFL told him
Gonna need a source for that..
>ESPN
Maybe some nutjob editorial, but thats why they say "the views of do not necessarily reflect those of here.
Alexander Edwards
The top one took an ineffectual stand against a judicial fiat that doesn't reflect the will of the people.
The bottom one is ignoring the real problem of black criminals decimating their own communities, choosing instead to demonize cops who take said criminals out of circulation.
Kevin Long
>Nice treason of America right there m8
My family never came to America
The came to the Massachusetts Bay colony
>>criticizing the government is kike degeneracy
protecting nigger criminals is
>If you don't see how they matter go burn your drivers license
States requiring drivers licenses is not unconstitutional
And were in the constitution does it say faggot marriage is a right?
Henry Murphy
>
>No my point is there are laws that matter besides the constitution.
THERE ARE NO LAWS THAT MATTER MORE THAN CONSTITUTIONAL LAW...EVER.
At least in practice, they try to get away with unconstitutional shit all the time, and most of the time they succeed due to the peoples ignorance, but anytime its actually challenged the constitution holds up beyond any other law
Brayden Ward
>name our band
Eli Watson
Those kneeling terrorists
Jose Miller
So?.No one then?
Ayden Perry
/thread
Robert Ward
But even tho a license is not constitutionally required, you're still going to jail/getting fined/slapped
around.
Eli Wright
>When two people decide to get married its a symbol to everyone around them that they will forsake all others for their spose. No amount of money or assest should matter.
Says the idiots that can't even spell "spouse" and "assets". Marriage as recognized by the state is a legal arrangement with benefits, consequences, and rights.
When you're someone's dippy "boyfriend" you're no different than some other asshole off the street.
Joseph Roberts
>protesting literal lies about cops
>I am supposed to respect them
Ryan Martin
Was he a Federal police officer?
People protesting the national anthem over things local police do have no clue how our government works and should not be taken seriously
Jayden Johnson
All the right wing jews I know are into the Q conspiracy.
Julian Martinez
>to jail/getting fined/slapped
>around.
Because states have the legal authority to, even without the 10th amendment
What is your point?
Kayden Jones
The SCOTUS found in Obergefell v. Hodges laws and amendments in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee violated the 14th amendment by both the due process clause and the equal protection clause
Alexander Morales
>protecting nigger criminals is
Well sure, but you're talking about the dindus. Wasn't that handegg player just protesting against some vague notion of police brutality? What's really wrong with that? If you have a brain, you gotta admit there are things to talk about when it comes to police training in America.
>My family never came to America The came to the Massachusetts Bay colony
Nice evasion, but it's bullshit. I bet you just love the second amendment, and I don't think that's been given to you by the "Massachusetts Bay Colony."
I'm just saying you're being unamerican, and if that doesn't bother you that's fine, but you have to stand up and say, "Yes, I don't recognize America, and I am a traitor to it."
Lucas Green
One is taxpayers money or the other is fun money! NFL is no longer fun!