Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Force the rich to pay their fair share and contribute to society
Brody Collins
>Communism is the next stage of humanity This is why people say you're the real out-of-touch bourgeoise. What does this have to do with anything? I fail to see what real issues are addressed by this "next stage of history" rhetoric.
you know posting a pic means sage does nothing right?
Adam Morris
So do you think we can really vote for communism or will there need to be a violent revolution?
Owen Wood
understandable. what's op going to get from bumps anyway?
Anthony Fisher
Commynism is effective as a resistance ideology. There have even been several successful communist states. However, the future success of any commie project hinges on dropping the "we take over world, put all dissidents to the sword" attitude. The millenial beliefs of Marx are only dragging down contemporary leftist thought. Once expectations for communism are more moderate, labor advocacy will become mainstream again.
No. Communist states are not the problem. The polemical, Borg-like conformist nature of communist thought makes it politically incompatible with everything. Labor concerns in capitalist countries go completely unheard, because labor is conflated with violent global revolution. Lose the "right side of history" hogwash and you have a pretty good body of modern political thought, with a lot of potentially important reforms.
Bolshevism is just as Jewish and anti-White as Communism.
Oliver Sanders
>No. Communist states are not the problem. Communism is Jewish. Everything the Jews do is anti-White. So yes, Communist states are a problem for the White race.
Jace Brooks
Communism is Jewish and anti-White though. Why should Whites adopt a Jewish, anti-White ideology.?
Kayden Edwards
>184572766 is it gay if i fantasize cumin on josef stalins stache in a non homoerothicc way asking for a friend
Connor Morales
congratulations, you've just described labor activism and socialism
Kevin Butler
Full-on communism is best applied in the third world, and who cares what the Jews do with a bunch of non-whites? Jews are cattle farmers bringing a little ordnung in this case.
Elijah Jenkins
>Force the rich Who is the "rich" according to you?
>to pay their fair share What exactly is the "rich's" "fair share?"
>and contribute to society How must the "rich" "contribute to society?" How do the "rich" currently not "contribute to society?"
>inb4 you never respond to my questions.
Isaiah Miller
>Full-on communism is best applied in the third world Much like the Jews promote non-Whites above Whites in White nations.
>and who cares what the Jews do with a bunch of non-whites? Because the Jews use the non-Whites to destroy the White race.
>Jews are cattle farmers bringing a little ordnung in this case. Jews are the primary factors in White genocide.
Henry Thompson
Communist anime needs to be a thing.
Thomas Martinez
How come (((mods))) don't shut these threads down? These are worse than the incel and the blacked threads
Cameron Hall
Communists aren't people. Prove me wrong. Pro tip: you can't.
>Ideas competing in a civil parliamentary arena Working as intended. If you don't like the result, there's a problem with your own politicians. Shutting down free speech and dissent is exactly what the commies do.
Jason Bell
>How come (((mods))) don't shut these threads down? Because the mods don't care about the quality of Jow Forums.
Leo Smith
>Shutting down free speech and dissent is exactly what the commies do. Pornography and anti-White beliefs aren't free speech and anti-White/pro-Jewish dissent has no place in White nations.
Caleb Barnes
>implying that's not how half of you became fascists
>>implying that's not how half of you became fascists I became a "fascist" due to TGSNT.
Anime has no place in White nations. Just like Asians.
Logan Carter
you're retarded, yeah Jews are evil but this post was written by a moron.
Xavier Robinson
I'm a communist and I'm a person. Capitalshits don't know anything about communism or economics for that matter.
Ryan Lee
They do, but their idea of quality greatly differs from the average Jow Forumsack, which is why I'm guessing that the mod and admin team come from the same hiring pool as reddit.
Josiah Brown
>you're retarded, That's not a refutation of my statement.
>yeah Jews are evil Therefore what they do is evil. And what they do (among other things) is porn and promoting anti-White beliefs.
>but this post was written by a moron. Again, that's not a refutation of my statement.
anti-white beliefs ARE free speech. No one says you have to like free speech. The ethnostate won't have it. However, just like the utopia commies are always selling, I'm not holding my breath.
Luis Murphy
>I'm a communist and I'm a person. You can't be a person. You have no soul and no free will. And you do everything that destroys the White race.
>Capitalshits don't know anything about communism or economics for that matter. Your flaw lies in believing the only reason someone opposes Judeo Communism is because they're a Capitalist.
Capitalism is just as Jewish and anti-White as Communism is.
Elijah White
>anti-white beliefs ARE free speech I don't agree with what you say, but ill defend your right to say it.
Justin Perez
your statement was nonsensical, except for the part about Jews and nonwhites not allowed. Yeah, I got that, fucking idiot
Jacob Miller
There will never be any white nations again, and you can thank Hitler for that.
Cooper Long
>They do, but their idea of quality greatly differs from the average Jow Forumsack, which is why I'm guessing that the mod and admin team come from the same hiring pool as reddit. I wouldn't doubt that the mods hate Jow Forums and look at moderating it as a horrible job.
Joseph Ortiz
>anti-white beliefs ARE free speech. No they're not. They're anti-White speech and anti-White speech has no right to exist in White nations.
>No one says you have to like free speech. Free speech only applies to Whites who are pro-White.
> The ethnostate won't have it. You don't even want to create a White ethnostate. You certainly don't supports any group IRL attempting to bring the ethnostate into being.
>However, just like the utopia commies are always selling, I'm not holding my breath. That's because you'd rather LARP.
Logan Carter
>your statement was nonsensical, Why, because you say so?
Robert Perez
>Shutting down free speech and dissent is exactly what the commies do. I know. That's why the other person said a more watered down, less dogmatic approach to labor rights and social inequality would be more effective.
And I said that already exists, its called socialism. Not sure what your point is
Adam Hill
What makes you think communists don't have a soul or free will? I call myself a communist because I don't think believe class distinctions ought to exist.
Nolan Bell
>There will never be any white nations again, Not with that attitude.
>and you can thank Hitler for that. So instead of trying he should've just rolled over and died like you are currently doing?
me: Full-on communism is best applied in the third world you: "Much like the Jews promote non-Whites above Whites in White nations."
Wyatt Ortiz
>What makes you think communists don't have a soul or free will? Because they're Communists. Communism is a soulless, Jewish, anti-White materialist ideology.
>I call myself a communist because I don't think believe class distinctions ought to exist. Well you're an anti-White idiot that believes everything his Jewish masters tell him.
Adam Davis
that's not free speech, that's White speech. Would you say non-whites have any rights at all?
Wyatt Ross
Hitler was a psyop.
Logan Long
Great so the commies will be starting with their left wing political leaders and banker buddies right?
Zachary Gomez
>communist insect >free person Pick one
Logan Collins
the tone of your post made it seem like you were shitting on socialism instead of acknowledging its decently earned place in a mature multi-party democracy.
Joshua Wright
I consider myself a Stalinist more than a Marxist per se.
Robert Mitchell
>me: Full-on communism is best applied in the third world >you: "Much like the Jews promote non-Whites above Whites in White nations." The Jews promote non-Whites in White nations above and beyond the White race correct? (yes they do)
The Jews also want to control/influence non-Whites in non-White nations to harm White nations. Kinda like how Israel destabilized the middle east and that caused all those muslim "refugees" to flood into White nations.
>that's not free speech, that's White speech. White speech is free speech.
>Would you say non-whites have any rights at all? Not in White countries.
Dominic Myers
>Hitler was a psyop. You're delusional.
Easton Cruz
I see. Unfortunately, I don't see much socialism in the current "multi-party" democracy
John Cooper
>I consider myself a Stalinist more than a Marxist per se. Stalin fucked a Jew, was surrounded by Jews, made antisemitism a crime punishable by death and of course was a Judeo Communist.
Thus, Stalin was anti-White.
Ryder Bailey
Communism, is that some sort of oldfag weight loss program? sage goes in options bois.
John Jackson
I disagree with that analysis as a blanket statement. North Korea communism keeps like 50 million chinks under a lid. Cuba is more stable than under their US supported former dictators. Who knows how many russkie animals were kept out of white nations by the USSR. Communist dictatorships can be great for getting control over a shithole.
Liam Miller
No, you're thinking of Hitler.
Jews and whites can live side by side. Just outlaw usury. That's the Jews source of power.
Jacob Gray
America is not very democratic tbpf
Levi Thomas
You sound like you should educate yourself instead of believing everything you read on Jow Forums.
Gabriel White
what about white people in nonwhite countries
Thomas Ortiz
>I disagree with that analysis as a blanket statement. I don't care. It is a fact that the Jew promotes non-Whites above Whites. They admit it.
>North Korea communism keeps like 50 million chinks under a lid. And without the Jews, there'd be no Communism.
>Cuba is more stable than under their US supported former dictators. Cuba is a non-White third world country would be so even if Communism wasn't there.
>Who knows how many russkie animals were kept out of white nations by the USSR. Whites should be allowed to immigrate to other White nations.
>Communist dictatorships can be great for getting control over a shithole. Communism is a Jewish system of control to harm the White race.
Jayden Walker
USSR is literally famous for building a giant wall around their occupied zone in Germany to prevent the flow of people, yet conservatives still call anyone pro-immigration a "communist". anti-communism is based on paranoia not fact
Bentley Campbell
>No, you're thinking of Hitler. No, I don't believe your History Channel conspiracies.
>Jews and whites can live side by side. No they can't. History proves it.
>Just outlaw usury. That's the Jews source of power. Jews are an inherently destructive force in White nations. They're behind the normalization of homosexuality, feminism, porn, immigration, communism etc. etc. etc.
Lucas Ramirez
>what about white people in nonwhite countries White people shouldn't be in non-White countries. They'd be at the mercy and rule of non-Whites.
I frankly don't give a fuck how non-Whites manage their own countries as long as they stay the fuck away from White countries.
Justin Perez
Whether or not you think Hitler really believed what he was doing was right, the fact is it's because of him that no European government can openly pursue ethnonationalist policies.
Lucas Fisher
>Russians are white kek, you must hate Hitler then. Are Arabs white too? You sound kind of like a larping Arab.
I think you idolize the Jews too much. North Korea is pretty jew free, not everything is about you "white" man.
Chase Rogers
You're a total commie. No free movement, no free speech if it's mean, no trade or sharing of information. You just want a hermit state.
Nathan Wilson
>the fact is it's because of him That's because of the Jews. Who controlled things before Hitler.
>that no European government can openly pursue ethnonationalist policies. Without Hitler, no European government would know to pursue pro-White policies.
You blame Hitler for what the Jews did after they defeated him. hat is textbook victim blaming.
Caleb Cox
>>Russians are white Yes, they are you anti-White D&C faggot.
Aaron Powell
>You're a total commie. You're a Republican Conservative Capitalist.
> No free movement, You mean "no porn". That's what you really care about, after all.
>no free speech if it's mean, Anti-White speech has no place in White nations.
>no trade Whites don't need non-Whites. Non-Whites need Whites.
>or sharing of information. Whites don't need anti-Whites.
>You just want a hermit state. I want the survival of the White race. You want multiculturalism and diversity.
Levi Rivera
hitler killed 30,000,000 of them, and not all in defense against their jew-controlled assault. He did not consider slavs "white."
It doesn't matter what I think, we're talking about who belongs in your fantasy mutt white category.
Christian Lewis
He’s right you fucking retard. The Nazis are THE reason for the end of the white race not the Jews.
Hudson Stewart
>hitler killed 30,000,000 of them, The allies and their jewish masters started the war.
What was Hitler supposed to do? Not defend himself because it would've meant "killing Whites"?
>He did not consider slavs "white." Why would I believe your lies?
>It doesn't matter what I think, You're right. You are parroting lies.
Chase Miller
>He’s right you fucking retard. The Nazis are THE reason for the end of the white race not the Jews. Well you're an anti-White idiot for believing that. You probably vote Republican as well.
Michael Jenkins
I don’t vote. I’m just not a brainwashed idiot who thinks that starting a war in which hundreds of millions die and genociding an entire people won’t result in your race being stigmatized.
Eli Wood
"anti-white" has to be defined (and continuously updated) by a cadre of intellectuals so you want society ruled by a commie-esque vanguard committee. >Whites don't need non-Whites White people do need resources from non-white countries, that's just a mentally deficient thing to say. Maybe just admit that you want a primitive, lightly industrialized society. >what was hitler supposed to do not commit massacres, kill millions in horrific POW conditions, or rant about how much he hated Slavs ever since his childhood in Vienna.
William Smith
For example, back when America Was Great™, corporations were taxed 90%+.
You don't have to touch private citizens to make America great again.
Then again, you're just a temporarily embarrassed millionaire, aren't you.
Andrew Carter
Communism is typical in most areas of small populations, as since they don’t need to trade amongst themselves. Any other way is fuckin dumb and that’s why it never works out
Samuel Phillips
No, Hitler started the war because he wanted to occupy their land and settle it with Germans. He was the original divide and conquer shill.
