You are Adolf Hitler in 1941, Operation Barbarossa began yesterday. How the fuck do you win the war?

You are Adolf Hitler in 1941, Operation Barbarossa began yesterday. How the fuck do you win the war?

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Dont declare war on the US, and abandon production of V weapons, as well as all WunderWaffen. Use those freed up resources to produce as many aircraft as possible, and pummel the eastern front. Pull out of Africa, fortify southern Italy in a way similar to the Atlantic wall, and at the same time build up the Atlantic wall to a satisfactory extent. Rather than securing the flanks in the later months of 1941, secure Moscow before the soviets can fortify it, and THEN move to secure the flanks, and when the winter hits, dig in. Remove many elements of the diversified production lines, particularly for infantry equipment, and instead reduce production to a few, main infantry weapons to streamline production. After development of the Tiger 1 ends, focus primarily on the mass production of Tiger, Panzer IV and StuG III Tanks rather than wasting resources on experimental vehicles. Divert fuel that would've been used on the V-program to tanks, and in 1942, once the flanks have been secured, production output has been increased and the luftwaffe is more stocked, use the bulk of the luftwaffe to bombard the Soviets, send troops to finland to capture the zone around the lake supplying Leningrad, and once this has been achieved, push south to secure the southern Soviet Oilfields. Integrate Wehrmacht elements into the Romanian forces, to strengthen them against Soviet forces like the pincer around stalingrad, and rather than push straight through stalingrad, starve the city in a similar fashion to leningrad while pushing south, severing Russia in two. it is imperative not to declare war on the US, and the UK is irrelevant without US intervention, which would allow for the suppression of the Soviets by the end of 1942.

I woulda just ate some french fries but that works too I guess.

Stop trying to create bigger and more powerful tanks when you have a very capable panzer4 with high velocity gun that uses superior ammunition. No need for retooling factories etc. Oh and that Goring guy needs to be shot bc he will destroy the Luftwaffe. PULL OUT OF Africa and do not bother moving South. Focus on the Ukraine and build factories and a solid defense line. Theres a bunch more but da da da

Good post bong

Thanks fren

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you got pretty hyper, but you don't realize it wasn't Germany that declared war on the US, it was the other way around, and Germany pre-empted the officialities for morale purposes

first of all you break the alliance with the japanese faggots who will attack the US anyway.

second you leave the generals to make decisions on their own

bypass stalingrad altogheter, just put a siege around it and create a safe zone of 50 km , meanwhiel go for oil in caucas

hope for the best
t34 was superior tank tho..

Germany declared war on the US when Japan attacked them at Pearl Harbour, as a show of support. If he hadn't done that, it'd have been at least another year until they got involved in Europe, and even then, the population would be reluctant to. Even after D-Day, the US didnt really view the Germans as an "enemy" in the way they viewed the japanese.

Not switching tactics several times during Opertation Barbarossa, and listening more to the generals.

Alberto Barbarossa?

Go South to secure the oil first, then push to Moscow. Fake my assassination if they cross the polish boarder and escape to Argentina

>Develop Me-262 into fighter earlier in war
>Phase out Bf-109s
>Try to develop strategic bomber program
>Still have codes broken by ULTRA
>????
>Still lose

It's in impossible situation

Well the panzer 4 J had upgraded armour andd the k.w.k L43 75 canon. It could take on the t34. But yes the 34 was a great tank, the 34-85

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It's these kinds of posts that make me proud to be British.

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>second you leave the generals to make decisions on their own
Most people don't know that the generals use tactics from last century wars. Most of Hitler's calls were right. In fact, Barabarossa would have been a success had he not stopped to help Italy and declare war on US to help Japan.

Maximize industry.
Leave the war to the generals.

>take superior firepower doctrine

this is wrong. germany stopped using infantry offensives after poland. it was the french that used old tactics and guderians panzers obliterated them and the british. infact hitlers order to stop the advance on dunkirk likely cost them any hope of peace with britian

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Shit post lad

Hitler's generals weren't always wrong, but it's impossible to be right all the time. Infantry offensives were used, just as a part of a larger campaign offensive. Sure, Hitler's generals could've done with a little more strategic freedom, especially in 44-45, but at the same time that hierarchy was what ensured loyalty to the very end.

this is correct, but the US and the Brits were supporting the communists so, moot point.

I'm fortunate enough to know nuclear physics.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=nBJETKrM92M

bring a few extra coats

Implying hitler wasnt a puppet

>infact hitlers order to stop the advance on dunkirk likely cost them any hope of peace with britian
The call was to make peace with the British without any bloodshed. He did not anticipate that (((churchill))) would go all in on the war.

Oi, yu got a losicence fore that national pride?

US lend lease is a hell of a lot different than an active threat of a second invasion. By 1944, the Eastern Front only had 20% of Luftwaffe attention, while the western front took the remaining 80%. an almost 100% focus on the east, as well as a heavily bolstered force, would be disastrous for the soviets, as it was in 41 and 42. It's estimated the resources from the WunderWaffe projects alone could've been used on another 24,000 aircraft.

Anyone but Churchill would've sued for peace, Churchill was just a kike bought by the US

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Call up Albert Speer and tell him this will not be a short war, do everything you can to raise production. Take every action you can to produce more.

Speer was a miracle worker. Germany actually produced more tanks in 1944 than it did in 1942, and until the last months of the war, the industry actually grew constantly at an exponential rate. The german war economy was a shambles, and if it wasn't, there'd be no hope for the allies

> Total war production
> Improve manufacturing standard so your parts dont need to be custom made to Tiger/difficult tanks in planning
> Raise shit ton of supply + more sdkz 251/1
> Ask more SS troops from scandanavia and make deal with Finland to cut mursksman
> Make sure you don't kill russian civilisian in villages and say you only are after jews.
> Give high rewards for partisans for anyone who give real info
> More resurces to building railroads and infra for supplylines
> Stop wastefull projects
> Start honey and talk USA
> Forget battle of britain
> Send airplanes to Afrika for rommel
> Don't let romanians guard your flanks
> Forget tiger and try plan panther like tank, with widers tracks, make it simpler and easier to product.
> Start building only Panzer IV and Stugs with high numbers
> Start focusing naval bombers, get one good anti-aircfraft fighter to dog fighting and other with higher service range, better armament and etc.
> Put money to good use in v-1 and v-2 projects and give the technology to other sectors but don't start building them.
> Start training allread millions of soldiers for replacment
> Forget Moscow and focus north and south.
> more 251 katsuhka copy
> Start make armoured motorisedivisions
> Start negation with England without terms, release POW:S and let USA come to table offering freetrade and protection of all trade. Stop all aggersion towards england and start propaganda "no more brother wars"
> Start improve mobile radios and better encryptions.
> Start with USA negations for total protection of USA citizen, USA trade and ships. Open tourism to france for USA Citizens and make sure to say USA is our friend, we dont fight you and want open trade for investment to Germany.

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Hitler listened almost whole time generals and there advices.

Generals white washed themselfs after war.

we are looking at the situation with full hindsight, he should have let guderian capture or kill the entire BEF

In order to secure the caucasus I would have a large propaganda campaign including leaflets dropped in Georgia and Azerbaijan for the nationalists to overthrow the commies and secure the oil fields. Also I would use propaganda to try to get the Cossacks and North Caucasus to rise up and form a government that would arm men to put pressure on the Soviets from the South

He really needed to invade the USSR much earlier like in 1936 rather than waiting
They were set to collapse at that point

It was saving german soldiers, not brittish.

Look how long they have marched, fight and advance with stimulants at that time point. Soldiers where walking corpses allready and attack was halted from that reason.

Ofcourse mate, just got it renewed.

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Dont forget Mongolians and come as liberators who offer jobs, safety and german peace.

This and start synthetic oil production from #cleancoal

You should have helped him more mr Ayy Lmao

firebomb brits out of existence

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Exactly exploit all minority nationalists in the Caucasusian region

It was there plan, but they didn't realize when you shoot jews and kommissars in villages without explaining its hard to convince them :D

Should have start pay small town and villages to improve roads and give money for safe supplylines and giving food aids.

Giving every town if they are threated by Partizans german back guard units will hunt partizans and guard them.

>imagine

how dies this have anyhtign to do with being a paki?

If this is the point where germany wasted time trying to negotiate with (((britain))) then the war is already basically lost. Anyway if I'm germany, I'm already basically aware that america is inventing the bomb. I vaguely know how it was invented, I'd probably go straight to the scientist division and try and get them working on the kind of vacuum pump they used to figure out the atom bomb.

The bomb unlike for america and britain is the only way for germany to really win. Even if we could take down britain and stop hostilities in america, we could not truly win against the soviets without this kind of weapon

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we should do that right now. i imagine about half of world poverty and corruption will relief overnight

Start is a month earlier and string mussolini up by his junk for starting shit in the balkans he couldn't finish.

They could have beat the Soviets had they attacked much earlier, 41 was just too late

italy's opinion is literally irrelevant. youre the reason citadel failed

>and listening more to the generals.
Then Germany would have lost already against France in 1940

Pretty decent post, but what about the Panther, I thought with the improved mass production Panther's were totally worth it since Panzer IV's got wrecked by T-34's?

You sound like you know what you're talking about thought mate so dont let me get in your way.

V weapons were 10/10 as propaganda and really good at scaring people shitless, wouldn't abandon production completely, just build a few and fire them at cities

Keep panzer divisions in Army Group South instead of sending them to Army Group Center so increase the capability of securing the Baku oil fields by Russian winter. Then you have control of the USSR's primary source of oil
Hitler is always criticized for sending so many troops through the south but he was right to move to capture Soviet oil reserves. The chernozem wasn't the chief target

replace the soviet leadership with doppelgangers

Had they not stalled the invasion by sending divisions to bail out Italy's botched invasion of Greece they could have reached Moscow before winter set in. Even if the reds pulled a Napoleon defense and burned the whole city down it would still be a huge blow. Those precious weeks bailing out Italy could have changed history

steamroll till winter then hunker down with AA watching the sky and never declare on the US and maybe even try to be kind to the US to get them on our side with the promise of foreign investment and the union of north america by giving them greenland from conquered Denmark and promise them the dominion of Canada, Australia and New Zealand along with other territories around the america's that France, the Netherlands and Britannia own to give them in exchange for aid and nuetrality and keep my promise to invest in the US while I destroy the USSR and split the Asian and European continent with japan. wiping out the arabs to make room for Asians and give back all of africa to the africans

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>Still being unable to differentiate between Jews and Brits

You've been here at least 12 months and you're still as retarded now as you were when you were that little goy who first came yelping here.

> Make sure you don't kill russian civilisian in villages and say you only are after jews.
> Give high rewards for partisans for anyone who give real info
Both of these points seem difficult to implement. Finding the resources and time to fully prosecute devious jews, partisans, and regular russian peasents caught up in the chaos of war would have been murky business. Besides it wasn't a big issue.

> Start honey and talk USA
> Forget battle of britain
> Start with USA negations for total protection of USA citizen, USA trade and ships. Open tourism to france for USA Citizens and make sure to say USA is our friend, we dont fight you and want open trade for investment to Germany.
> Start negation with England without terms, release POW:S and let USA come to table offering freetrade and protection of all trade. Stop all aggersion towards england and start propaganda "no more brother wars"
Most of these points seem idealistic when considering events under the auspices of the jewish question. If British, zionist jews - having recently signed the Balfour agreement - promised the British elite of American involvement in exchange for Israel, then we have to accept the inevitable American threat to the German army. It is a shame that Chamberlain got pegged as an inept diplomat when he could have set the course for a German-British peace treaty. It's obvious the Americans were repeating the tactic employed in WW1 to sweep the board of the already war tired Europeans. They were just looking for an excuse. It was probably smarter to support Japan as opposed to waiting for the Americans to include Germany in the declaration due to their alliance with Japan. The jews in the end were gunning for German since their pre-war declaration of war on Germany. The proof is the fact that the Brtis and French declared war on Germany for their attack on Poland, but they didn't declare war on Russia who also attacked Poland in conjunction with the Germans.

Panther was an extremely good vehicle, but it was developed late, and required a LOT of field testing to work out the kinks. If it could be deployed in early 43 somehow and then worked out by 44, it would be viable, but if not, it'd be worth producing higher numbers of Tiger 1's

Let England meddle with Yugoslavia. Let Italy fail miserably in Greece. Fuck them. Go straight for the Caucasus and Stalingrad.

the V-weapons were literally known as "Revenge weapons", they were good propaganda for a losing nation. Military victory is better propaganda.

>I'm already basically aware that america is inventing the bomb

Inventing and failing you mean. It was never created until the Nazi scientists had free reign which is when "America" "invented" the bomb. The reason the Nazis never finished off creating the bomb is because Hitler wouldn't allow it to be used due to the large loss of life, (((America))) didn't have this problem.
It might sound odd that Hitler refused to use a weapon because of how deadly it was, but then you need to remember where you are and which side in the war was the only one to abide by the Geneva Convention.

You don't.
Germany does not have the logistics necessary to win a war.
Germany has never been a major power, just a minor one that thinks its a major one at best. This is due to geography.

build cheaper tanks and zerg rush, put all additional resources into developing nukes and stukas.

Reinstate use of chemical weapons, place more mines on the English channel, no peaceful population all paritans must be exterminated.

>A Ten year shitposting license

Fucking kek.

>>Still being unable
shitskin can't into grammar
there's no difference between anglos and jews since they happily collaborated with kikes destroying germany and every other european nation on this planet thanks to you dolts we're all doomed to nigger invasion

actually hitler saw atomic science as jewish science and never even tried for a bomb but after it being invented hitler would love the green energy it produces and try to get a US/German tech alliance as it's based off of already established US finding's which the british and french were impressed with when visiting California and even said it was like there labs on steroids, so no germany would never have even a reactor until america had it with american finding's

put all resources in the nuke program and pull back at the end of summer

Go around Stalingrad instead of trying to siege take a city right before winter.

This is a lie, there was a german effort made into Nuclear theory, plus the Heavy Water in Norway, plus their Missile program to be adapted into a launchable nuclear weapon by 1946.

You rush for the Caucasus and seize the oil. It's literally the only way. Anyone who says anything else is just wrong.

> Send airplanes to Afrika for rommel
Another issue facing Rommel was the logistics problem. The Brits owned the sea ways and had airbases in the Mediterranean. Rommel was chronically deprived of the fuel that would have enabled his full tactical genius.
> Start focusing naval bombers, get one good anti-aircfraft fighter to dog fighting and other with higher service range, better armament and etc.
The Fokker 109 was the answer to an easily serviceable and superior fighter plane that could be produced quickly. I would like to image that the Bf 110 could be fitted for naval war, but the Germans seemed incapable of affecting meaningful attacks against british naval power outside of the more capable U-boats.

> Raise shit ton of supply + more sdkz 251/1
> Start building only Panzer IV and Stugs with high numbers
These tanks are amazing and reduced purchasing costs. But for every one tiger able to defend against and swarmed by 5-10 shermans, how could Germany sustain a weaker tank that was guaranteed to be outnumbered and, in your case, evenly matched by American/Russian production?

source's now, show where they were going into nuclear science that wasn't abandon due to hitler.

Some good history channel memes youre running with there.

Push straight through to Moscow instead of getting bogged down and destroyed in a pointless battle over a city whose only value was symbolic.

Instead of those V weapons create a massive well funded atomic bomb program
Bam

>secure Moscow
Taking Moscow would be fucking hard. we could not even take Stalingrad nevermind Leningrad

still waiting for your sources to prove me wrong.

Started with Uranprojekt, resumed by Heereswaffenamt, which diversified into their Uranmaschine, Uranium/Heavy Water production, mainly in Norway, and Isotope separation. Program was given to Reichsforschungrat in 42 and funding continued, and 9 different institutes were given different directives.

Main surviving component of the program captured by the allies was the V2-SRBM

In hogans heros, they had to destroy the German's heavy water supply that would have been used in a nuclear bomb. Colonel Klink had a fit.

Pushing straight to moscow rather than waiting would've been far easier than Leningrad or Stalingrad. Leningrad had water access and constant supply, as well as massively entrenched fortifications, and stockpiles beforehand, plus were facing a weaker army than Army Group Center. Attacking Moscow would've been far, far easier when they reached the frontier of the city, as there were little / no fortifications ready, no conscript armies in place to block manoeuvres, which were conscripted in early 1942 in bulk, and the soviets werent even close to reorganising their war effort. Moscow would've fallen in days, maybe a week or so.

might want to consult these as it says(the only thing in enlish I could find on it) the proper isotope was never considered to make a bomb and they were just trying to make reactors.

heisenberg-gesellschaft.de/5-the-war-years-1939-ndash-1945.html

And that British fella made out with that German dame and then Bob Crane strangled her IRL.

>thinking a TV show meant to be a comedy was real

get lost leaf.

Here is some of the proof, you have to register for the rest. This article just came out today. I thought it was common knowledge that Hitler was close to nuclear weapons. I also though that his personal bodyguard made a statement concerning Hitler's view on the atom bomb. I think he was adverse to the idea of using such a weapon in European warfare.
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again they NEVER considered the proper isotope, they were pursuing energy, not nuclear devices.

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Germany could never have won WW2.

Formally, Germany declared war on the US. In practice the US was already a participant.

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>pull out of africa
the oil though

Go to total war mode
Get winter gear ready
Treat people in captured areas well
Treat captured soldiers well
Take Moscow.
Secure Leningrad, link with Finn's.
Dig in for winter.
Finish them in 42

top kek

i turn super saiyan 3 then conjure a spirit bomb

he never was going to win the war. the brits used to have it in their history books up until like 1 decade and a half ago. the nazis were just used as a excuse to start a war to screw india the middle east and japan

the problem was that japan took the philipines from germany in WW1 and got a seat at the big boy table at the league of nations. germany had a colony they couldnt protect and japan doesnt like foreigners. white people couldnt stand it. the brits specifically who were allies with japan hated the west not having a direct route to china by sea. its like some faggy obsession the brits have with china. go through the middle east you niggers but they are all "no we want to use the other trade gates"

so the brits had bragged about this on their national television and even 2 documentaries. the funniest thing is if the west is this mighty why do they hide bobby fischers racist rant that was on TV. its 100% what the brits version of events would encourage. japan has the tape and gave copies to china and s korea and n korea