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>sold all my weedstocks to buy a property in july
>would have had 200k more if I didn't sell, but I'll have a house and lot for next spring

Great you ruined the thread with a house people in the desert build. Steel buildings, cheap cabin kits, and mfg'd homes are more interesting.

Let's talk solar though because someone was saying it's a meme. Assume your water is heated by fuel wood, oil, or propane on demand. Better yet assume your entire house has radiant floor heating and operates off of a separate wood burner outside. Assume you're bald like me and don't use hair straighteners.

That leaves your biggest power draw as your oven, or air conditioning. AC = evaporative cooling in high plains and desert.

Solar is cheap if you buy 24v panels. They're enormous so the shipping cost is what kills it. $130 for a 230w 24v panel is awesome, but when shipping is more than that it sucks. So road trip to California to pick that shit up at the port.

Power storage is the bitch. I could personally get by with a 1kw system and 400ah of capacity. Anything that has its own battery should be charged during the day. Charge up the battery bank and let er rip. 2000w inverter generator ($400, fuck Honda, clones are OK) for the cloudy days. I'm getting more comfortable with lithium DIY powerwall type shit, just used a Maker Kit to assemble a big ass 4S 20P ~12v battery. Wish LifePO4 had the same storage capacity for the form factor.

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>Solar
Funny you rag on the earthship design when it's actually a kind of solar home. It uses primarily passive solar for heating and then a few photovoltaic panels for the rest.

There's a family out in Alberta which grows tomatoes in January in theirs. If it works in Canada, it'll work anywhere in the US.

You can also order pre-fab houses for about $100k depending on what you want.

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go back to /out/, ted

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solar varies a lot where you live, especially if you get much snow
most of my property is trees, if I knew how to weld I'd like a wood gas generator
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Pic related can be bought for just over $500.

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Earthships are so gay dude. We live on earth where there are resources, not a fucking space ship where we have to recycle every drop of piss. Just build a regular house, open the windows in the summer and build a comfy fire in the winter.

What about houseboats. Anyone have any experience with that?

Why are they most popular in the desert? Is it cause you bury half of it in to the ground to benefit from earth's cooler temps and thus free cooling(ish)? I've never even heard of someone attempting one in Colorado.

Bag homes are cool, I think. I watched some incest family's channel on youpube and they built a house for every family member, ~$5k-8k. Get these tube-bags and fill em with dirt. Kinda cool for single room structures. Fuck, I'd be cool building three of them and connecting em with proper framed in and insulated walk ways.

Solar varies a lot where you live? Yeah places with more sunny days are best. Snow isn't an issue. $20 and you can tilt your arrays either by time of day, or track the sun actively. During snowfall run a program once every few hours that just tilts the array vertical and dumps. Take the quad with plow behind the dump pile and push it away every week.

Not sure what you'd do about the frozen crusty snow that would accumulate on the panels though. I've never scraped my panels because they're the first things to melt when the sun comes back out after a snow.

have you seen this guy's solar setup?
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Single wide, 1200sqft, 3br, 2ba. $65k. I guess they come fully furnished though? Still seems like a lot for builder grade bullshit and a trailer. But as I understand it, there's no need to pour a slab for one of these. Not sure if that differs in places with high winds.

In any event... $10k lot for 0.5 acres with BLM/National forest around your property... means your lot size doesn't matter nearly as much. $65k for a fully furnished home. $25k for a large steel outbuilding to be insulated and maybe an efficiency apartment in the upper loft later. $100k.

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>vegetable oil
Gross. I mean you can survive off it, but I'd at least splurge for a better fat.

>have you seen this guy's solar setup?

That's a fucking industrial operation. What is small scale about that.

earthships are awesome. I hope someday we will be deregulated to the point where I can build one and catch my own rainwater without breaking the law. Politicians will never allow us to live carbon free, got to keep the climate change industry going. I wish someone would invent a tire packing machine, too much work to build one of these by yourself. Terrorist niggers in NM tried to build one.

because
1. in the desert land is dirt cheap
2. in the desert there are typically no housing/zoning regulations, and if there are there's no one who will go out and check your shit/fine you because they are afraid of all the crazy fucks living out their shooting them for minor 'dont tread on me' bullshit
3. these houses are made out of literal garbage, they need a dry/stable climate so they dont fall apart in one season.
4. most of these 'earthships' were made in the 70s and 80s, when the deserts were basically being used as dumping grounds for every major manufacturer in the country so it was extremely easy to get 'nice' junk and scrap for cheap


earth ships are kind of a meme, they are flat out illegal to build in most areas due to building codes, and they arent nearly as cheap as the stoned out boomer shitstain living in one now likes to tell everyone they are.

This open concept trend is actually badass when you start looking at manufactured homes. More so in double wides, but even single wides are doing it right. Walk in to large open kitchen and living area. Bedrooms on either side. Makes it a lot more palatable. I've been in 1970's trailers and they fucking suck.

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It's better for accessibility anyway.

There's nothing stopping you from using modern stuff and just sidestepping the whole recycled material thing.

>he believes in the cooking oil meme

so after a potential SHTF-scenario you are just going to continue poisoning your body with an overdose of omega-6 acids? RIP lad

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I feel like everyone's on to the cheap housing game now. Want a shipping container house? Oh neat they were $750 a few years ago but now they come with a fresh coat of paint for $10k each.

Cletus has a trillion tires in a pile on his lot, but now he knows hippie fucks want to build a house out of them, so instead of taking them off his hands for free he's going to charge you.

I guess ya gotta get in while the getting's good. In any event I'd rather mill my own lumber and build something off the ground than excavate in to the side of a rocky hill and line it with tires. I don;'t even think you could do that here, codes or not. Too many rocks. But yea yea I guess we could all go live in the desert and do whatever we want without much worry of code enforcement, but I don't like the thought of sweating every moment of every day until I die. Nor hauling in water from god knows where. Easier to haul in water if you're surrounded by high altitude streams. Not sure if you'd smell like shit if you bathed in it though. I'd probably pump out of a tank in the back of my truck through a filtration setup before going in to holding tank at house.

don't get me wrong, incorporating sustainable living and things like passive solar into your property are great ideas that will pay off in the long run if you do them correctly.

but "earthships" specifically are a fucking con.

Using the design philosophy behind it and using something like this would be neat:

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this. I remember when you could get 50 gallon foodgrade barrels for free, then some fuck started making youtube videos and telling everyone how cool water barrels are and now they sell these barrels with a few screws and nozzles at costco for 50-100$ a barrel.

Oh yea. another one of those social media trends that people are perpetually excited about but never seem to materialize. So okay it's touted to cost $4k but you can't find anyone to do it.

Don't get hunt up on the price point. Look at the technology itself. You can create curved walls effortlessly.

Let's say you lived in an area with lots of hurricanes or tornadoes... You can very easily adapt to it using that kind of technology.

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Now do you see why earthships are stupid? The thread tanked.

Yes I can pour a concrete house by myself effortlessly.

It's 02:00 EST, dude.

Kevin pls

you need oils or you'll never take a proper shit.

Yeah, but lard, butter and coconut oils are way better.

Uhhh bros...

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Yup we are fucked, Malthusian crunch by 2050?

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Exactly. Tallow too.

This guy gets it.

I know a guy that spent hundreds of thousands of dollars making an "earth house" in BC and heats his home with a heat pump and solar power boiler for in floor heating. He has tried to sell it in the past but no one is interested and the guy is losing money with it. Some people are just fucking retarded with these hippy ideas and yet you have some guy living in a hole in the ground on some farmers property and doesn't have anything like that and lives in Washington last I read.

>population growth
>oh noes, too many people in...
>india
>china
>africa
>easily 1bil people each as of current year

>i only have 1 child as a westerner to protect muh worldz!
>meanwhile apoo, chong, and muhammed have 10 kids each

quality thread, ty OP

It's only as high quality as you guys make it. With all the negativity that gets thrown around here, threads like these end up being all the more heartwarming.

>Heated floors
I've literally been dreaming of having a home with that feature since I was 5.

>Yes I can pour a concrete house by myself effortlessly.

effortlessly

t. someone who knows fuck all about building forms

cant i just design my own home using something like autocad and pay contractors to build it for me using certain materials only like reclaimed brick?

>AutoCAD
God no. That software has been obsolete for ages. Use Revit.

thanks, i hate autodesk's payment plans

Why, its only good in a concrete floor. Put whatever you want on top and good luck, most of the heat will dissipate through that material. Heated floors are only good for pads in winter around areas that need ice control. The boiler system is a huge drain on the KW generated by the solar panels so you're gaining no real energy savings. It costs people more money in maintenance in small homes than it does if its for maintenance bays in large facilities like mines and airports. No practical use in homes.

Revit is also owned by Autodesk, lel.

I have a health problem that makes me tolerate cold poorly. Cold floors annoy me like little else.

tfw

>some guy living in a hole in the ground on some farmers property and doesn't have anything like that and lives in Washington last I read.
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If anyone is interested.

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Enjoy walking around on a concrete pad

Man I was looking through Colorado's housing prices on Zillow after the last thread...it's pretty bad. After 2012 property values spiked everywhere, even little mountain towns are exorbitant

Yeah, I know. They're kinda cancerous that way. They have a bad habit of buying anyone that would cut into their profits.

If you use the heated flooring as the main heating method, it'd be awesome.

One of my friends growing up had heating flooring in the master bathroom and it was awesome.

Not practical at all, but it's oddly charming.

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i HAVE THAT BOOK

Is it the one listed here: ?

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SORRY ABOUT THE FOCUS.

Self-Sufficiency
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everybody... if you dont want to bother with paying ridiculous money for an architecture CAD program, i suggest taking a look at freeCAD

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particularly 13 to 17 minutes into this video

I kinda want a storybook cottage like pic related DESU I am having trouble locating materials but, it looks comfy as fuck. I do want one though that will fit 6 kids I want though.

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This one is tiny, but aesthetically pretty fucking neat.

Humans live in cities

Fuck urban sprawl, give me vertical cities!

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An open kitchen is pretty to show your neighbours but that grease goes fucking everywhere

Having room for multiple people to do prep work in a kitchen is useful. Especially if you have children, since it's your responsibility as a parent to teach them how to cook.

Its like going to Burning Man which is currency free, but inevitably spending more than the cost of a weeklong ocean cruise. Plus your own free labor because you dont want to read a book in a moment of freee time, you obviously want to scavenge for spare fridge doors in the desert.

Nice, a Dickensian bronchial tuberculosis in architectural form.

You didn't have much of a childhood, did you?

it would be great if all of humanity moved out into the deserts and let the green areas become wild again.

>Beating around the vertical bush
Just build a giant fucking cube with light tunnels.

muh fetish

comfy, i like this thread

Does anyone have experience/tips/ knowledge about shipping container homes? I understand they are becoming fairly popular

OP IS TRYING TO KILL YOU.
DO NOT MAKE A HOUSE OUT OF TIRES
THE GASES FORCED THE CREATOR OF THIS IDEA TO ABANDON HIS HOME
DO NOT MAKE A HOUSE OUT OF TIRES

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