Reminder: Anti-abortion arguments are reducible to 'muh feels'

Feelings are for women

I don't agree with your premise so why the fuck would I provide a counter argument. Utilitarianism is not morality.

The only sound abortion argument is that it mostly kills people we want dead anyway.

I already explained it. It's wrong for both feels and logical reasons. Abortion is only wrong in feels, but without proving humans have some kind of soul, you have no logical argument

>Reminder: Anti-abortion arguments are reducible to 'muh feels'

good luck going up against God's law with your egotism based nonsense

I'm completely fine with free on demand abortions for non-whites as long as sterilization is a condition

Pro-life people actually want even more niggers. Abortion is the number 1 killer of blacks. Blacks would be breeding like spics if abortion was outlawed.

Lol yeah, and I bet the only reason you haven't killed your mother yet is because it would be a strategically bad choice

You philosophy 101 spastics drive me insane

God is a concept that cannot stand or speak for itself in argument. Next.

It's because she's a person and a fetus is not.

>logical reasons
what logical reasons?

Lol look at this faggot write "next" like he's some kind of super genius. Cringeeeeeee

See the image in op

What I find interesting is the emphasis on calling it a procedure, harmless, painless, etc., but every girl I knew close enough to broach the subject with, personally regretted the decision, or the emotional pain of the topic was apparent on their face.
t. college frat boy when the anti-abortion groups were plastering three story tall photos of aborted fetuses on campus, some of those girlfriends who got abortions are now wives, and we never ever bring it up

A fetus becomes a person around the end of the first trimester, at least

Holy shit. It's painful how unaware you are of even your own ideological premises

Can we please get over abortion control and gay marriage already?

Source, exact explanation

>Pro-life people actually want even more niggers
Of course they do, they're Christians. The same people who support Jews and white genocide.

>no counter argument

A woman can literally conjure up wether the fetus inside her has value or not.

> my body my choice, cluster of cells, etc
Vs
> my beautiful baby, a precious miracle, etc.

...

Overpopulation is a meme in western society and unwanted children is a meme with women.
The only over populated areas in the world are China, Africa, and India. The US+EU+Canada don't even make a billion combined, and are decreasing in birthrates, while the former countries mentioned are accelerating in population. We should be given nigger vasectomies so that they don't have 9 children each.
And about the unwanted children, CLOSE YOUR FUCKING LEGS you massive slut. Your desire to get plowed by every guy you meet and party all the time isn't a justifiable reason to murder children. If you end up with a child in your womb, 9 out of 10 times its definitly your fault, with the exception of broken rape and maybe broken condoms, both of which aren't justifiable reasons either.

Around then the brain takes shape and at least in theory can begin recording stimuli. Souce? Go fuck yourself. Google scholar it.

broke
>Women have a right to chose
woke
>What race is it?

OP is reducible to a faggot

Abortion does extreme psychic damage to the woman and is objectively murder. If you do not believe it is murder, you are in denial and likely logically inconsistent.

The funny part is the hypocrisy, where people who attacked casey anthonys court decision and called for 'justice for caylee' are also pro-abortion. Abortion has done untold damage to western birthrates, and is part of the reason why immigration is shilled so hard by the political class and their financiers.

Well, there is one kind of abortion that one of my employees approves of, but pro-choice people would be insane to agree with it.

Why does it look like Trump?

>abortions can only reduce suffering in society
So murdering people "reduces suffering"?

>and create none.
So murdering people does not "create suffering"?

>ll anti abortion arguments I've heard rely on emotionally manipulative language like 'person' 'child' 'murder' etc without explaining how these apply to a fetus that can't see or feel anything.
So you believe an unborn child is a soulless lump of its mothers flesh that feels no pain?

What if you're wrong?

60% of all nog deaths in the US are caused by abortion, why would I be against it? It's another classic case of leftist shooting themselves in the foot.

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You are ending the life of a being that could provide 80 years of work to yourself and your country, that could enrich your heritage and your prosperity.
Instead you kill it, because 80 years worth of work and life isn't worth the estimated 200,000 dollars it would take to raise the child to the age of 18. Pathetic.

So how does the trip down the birth canal turn a fetus into a human being with all the rights afforded to it?

Most abortions are on trash that would never hold a steady job and be a net drain throughout their lives

>don't want to raise a child
>can't afford to raise a child
>child has a shitty life
>child becomes a criminal
>80 years of debt on your prison system
good job

i agree op we must keep the niggerspic populus able to abort

The only necessary anti-abortion argument is citation that you're shifting the burden of proof. In wanting to abort/kill unborn children, you are implicitly making the claim that this action is right. Therefore, it is you who must prove it is ok -- that unborn children don't matter -- not I who must prove it isn't.

>supports the murder of unborn white children because non-white children are murdered more often
>literally supporting the murder of unborn children.
The fuck.

That morality is founded on what facilitates society is your unsupported claim, not a logical deduction, brainlet.

>non-existence is preferable to a potentially bad existence.
what?

>People are trash
Why don't you guys just kill the parents? If they are dead ends that cannot raise children, they are already dead. Everything they own will pass to the state, which is supposedly run for you, the people. So just kill these useless eaters and take their shit. If it's okay to kill the babies because they are dead ends, it's okay to kill the parents/would be parents.

I mean, I'd say it is.

sure

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The majority of overpopulation is in Asia and Africa. In the US over 50% of the population lives on like 1% of the available territory. We are far from being overcrowded. You are more than welcome to shill abortion to Africans.

In the west however we have generally higher concepts of personal responsibility, which abortion destroys. Abortion is a convenient out for women who do not want to take responsibility and would rather end what would have otherwise been a functioning human life had the pregnancy come to term. Is this the precedent you want to establish? That removing human lives in order to avoid responsibility is right and correct? Can I go around in a death squad killing minorities and gimps because I don't want to take responsibility for paying them through my taxes? I think not.

Retard shill bait anyway, remember kids to not bump

>I mean, I'd say it is.
How in any way is non-existence preferable to a POTENTIALLY bad existence that can be changed?

And what authority do you have to make such a statement?

I didn't think you had a valid response.

FUCK FETUSES

you RELIGIOUS RETARDS need to be GASSED

its a FUCKING CLUMP OF CELLS

JUST FUCKING KILL IT

ill fucking EAT THE CLUMP OF ROTTEN BABY cells you BITCHES

Don't have sex

Watch that edge. You might cut yourself on it.

fael

>Why don't you guys just kill the parents?
Because it's illegal you fucking idiot. Yes, if I had a button to kill all the niggers, I would press that and then end abortion. But I don't. We don't have that option. We have "accept abortion" or "drown in niggers". Take your pick.

Of course you can. The fetus is human but it's not a person. This is the distinction. If i peel of a piece of your skin and let it die, did i just kill a human? According to you, i did because it's genetically human but we all know that's retarded.

>But but but it will become a person!
Irrelevant. Until it reaches personhood, what every you do to it is morally irrelevant.

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Well then you support murder for anyone that is a 'dead end,' simply to benefit yourself. Just stating a fact, to ensure that you are aware of what you are saying.
I don't believe you truly mean what you say, though, because you won't actually do anything, Mr. Bong.

>argument by definition
As someone who doesn't feel strongly about abortion one way of the other, the funniest part of this is knowing that I used to think that I knew it all when I was your age.
Your underlying premise is that the cluster of 'things' categorized under the label 'person' demands protection from an intervening act that would render it lifeless, whereas the category of 'fetus' does not.
Google "axiom". All arguments have to have starting sets of assumptions which are basically arbitrary. Pro-abortion arguments are just as arbitrary as anti-abortion arguments.

Personhood is reached after conception but before birth.

End Welfare and Abortion. Boom! All niggers leave western countries.

>Because it's illegal you fucking idiot.
So if something is illegal it's morally wrong and if its legal it's morally good?

>We have "accept abortion" or "drown in niggers". Take your pick.
So you refuse to do the right thing for your people because the State (which is admittedly anti-White and pro-Jewish) says its illegal/wrong?

It being illegal doesn't mean you can't do it. If it is already considered morally correct to do it, laws aren't going to stop you. It's why niggers steal shoes during disasters - it's theft, but what are you going to do about it after it is done?
So go to the prisons and just start killing niggers (because I guarantee they are in there), and when the police come, just lie down and be a model prisoner. If you're lucky, people will copycat you and you will have plenty of friends.

Based on what?

>The fetus is human but it's not a person
Says who?

And how does the act of birth confer personhood upon a soullless lump of its mother's flesh

>This is the distinction.
So I can determine that the Jews are not people and therefore there's nothing wrong with killing them, right?

>If i peel of a piece of your skin and let it die, did i just kill a human?
If you peel enough skin off a person you will kill them. Humans are more than the sum of their parts.

And pro-abortion arguments can also be reduced to feels as well as the complete dismissal of the rights of the person WHO THAT FETUS WILL BECOME, if allowed to.
It is a potential person, whose existence should not be terminated so lightly.

>So if something is illegal it's morally wrong and if its legal it's morally good?
I'm not talking morals, I'm talking about actual practical solutions. We can't do gdnocide. It's not on the table because we could never make it work even if we wanted to.
>So you refuse to do the right thing for your people
Supporting abortion, strong borders, and minimization of immigration is the best thing for my people right now. If I tried to do more, I would cause more harm than good.

The abortionist is no different than a school shooter who demands his victims prove their worth.

It boils down to the fact that if you support abortion, you are siding with feminists, communists, Jews and liberals.

Why would anyone ever want to side with feminists, communists, Jews or liberals?

Yes. If you can prove they're not a person, you can kill them. But you know as well as i do that they are.

You just said humans are more than the sum of their parts, but i think you meant to say person. In your opinion, what parts are necessary to make a person?

Only for niggers.

The brain is complete enough to respond to stimuli and create and retain memory before birth.

Bad analogy. Shooters kill people not fetuses.

>It being illegal doesn't mean you can't do it.
It does mean I would fail, and the backlash would undo everythinv I accomplished a hundred times over.

Because it’s easy to go hurrhurr MUH cells until they start ripping out crushed body parts from your pussy that look dangerously close to an infant child, then it feels like the murder of your child became much more real. The cell argument screams coping in a way to dehumanize a human. Abortion is psychologically and physically traumatizing for women, whether it be the abortion pill or the procedure

So you would kill your own mother if she was a fetus? I mean, your posts were already shit, but now there’s no reason to even consider anything you have to say.

Not if you support abortion to allow the communists and the niggers to destroy their progeny.

>overpopulation

I support the abortion of the entire existence of non-white races.

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>I'm not talking morals, I'm talking about actual practical solutions.
If you were talking about solutions you'd be willing to do the acts to bring about the solutions. But like everyone else on Jow Forums, you're a LARPer.

>We can't do gdnocide.
Why not? They're doing genocide on the White race.
They've murdered 50 million children since Roe vs Wade. How is that not a genocide?

>It's not on the table because we could never make it work even if we wanted to.
You really think White people aren't capable of doing anything we collectively put our mind to? Do you think we didn't land on the moon?

>Supporting abortion,
So you support the murder of White children?

>strong borders and minimization of immigration
So you support non-Whites immigrating to White nations just as long as they meet your personal approval.

> If I tried to do more, I would cause more harm than good.
Really, how? To whom would you cause that harm? How is that harm worse than the genocide of the White race that is currently occurring?

>The abortionist is no different than a school shooter who demands his victims prove their worth.
Exactly. The only difference is when the person is aborted.

(and abortionists also support murdering people after they're born.)

Reminder.

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You do realize abortion was a Eugenics program cooked up by the Nazis right? We support your right to select yourself out of the gene pool.

The analogy couldn't be truer, brainlet. The shooter claims the people have no worth until proven otherwise. Abortionists claim fetuses have no worth until proven otherwise. Except it's their burden to prove their claim, not the victim's or anyone else's to prove otherwise.

I disagree

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you're talking to people who believe in souls that foundation is unshakable.

>youtube.com/watch?v=OZXQBhTszpU

Here is what someone who has performed sever thousands of abortions has to say about it.

He describes the process of how it's actually done. Have a listen.

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The left can't meme

>my anecdotal evidence proves me right therefore it is across the board.

are you sure that's what you want to go with?

>Yes. If you can prove they're not a person, you can kill them. But you know as well as i do that they are.
Really? How are Jews people?
They've done nothing but harm the White race. They're nothing more than a cancer.
What good do Jews bring to the White race?
What bad would happen if they were removed?

> In your opinion, what parts are necessary to make a person?
A person is inherent from conception. If one doesn't have specific parts that doesn't make them inhuman. To accept that would open the justification for murder.

Look, here’s a compromise to avoid all the bs about ethics, morals, etc etc who tf even cares anymore. Let’s outslaw abortion as we know it now and just make it legal to murder your kid/kids like up to a month after they’re born. Best of both worlds. The right gets to say there are no more abortions and the left still gets to murder their kids

^this only unironically

>Not if you support abortion to allow the communists and the niggers to destroy their progeny.
And yet there are still Communists, more Communists are made every day and niggers have a replacement level birth rate even with abortion.

All the while Whites are being aborted when Whites don't have a replacement level birth rate.

So obviously supporting abortion does not help the White race.

>I support the abortion of the entire existence of non-white races.
Then do something about it.