What do the people of Jow Forums think about the Gay cake supreme court case? I would love to hear your opinion on this

Wanting the government to force people to do things against their will can only lead you down a dark path.
I know they already do, but you don't want more of it. If the guy won't bake the gay cake, then find someone who will and leave a negative review. What kind of entitled faggot expects every business to bend to their will?

The same courts that have held that restaurants cannot refuse to seat Blacks (Piggie Park) are not going to magically hold that being gay is a choice and Christianity is the law of the land in spite of the 1st amendment. Keep dreaming, bigot.

If being gay is innate (it is), and gays are a persecuted minority, it makes sense for the government to step in and protect them. The only people applying coercive force here are Christians trying to indoctrinate and bully others into being second class citizens at the behest of fallacious appeals to tradition.

Literally no one is oppressing gays in America, you rimjob retard. The question here is should an individual be forced by pain of punishment to do create something for someone else because they are minority. If you think they should, you are not only anti-American, you're anti-west and should swing from a gibbet.Yours is the mentality that keeps people in chains.

So do you apply the same logic to muslim bakers?

You are the one imposing and infringing someone's rights which why you lost.

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So its all fair and good that alex jones got shadow banned from basically everywhere in less than 30 days? You cant force them to use thei creative talents to provide an unbiased service after all.

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It's a Catholic school, you stupid fuck. Should a Catholic school be FORCED to retain a teacher who partakes in satanic sacrifices because they're a minority? Fuck off with your tyrannical bullshit.

yea, it's perfectly fine you fucking retard. make your own service if you don't like it. it's like every person in this thread is using a script

"Being gay" isn't innate or natural. It's an excuse for degenerates to engage in depravity and specifically target children. It's been agenda-driven by communists in the UK and US for over 100 years now. You're either knowingly complicit in this attempt at subversion or you're a clueless idiot taking dick up your ass because the financial elite convinced you at a young age (with their persuasion of course) that you taking dick was all your idea. Wake the fuck up, you absolute tool.

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I look at it the same way I look at free healthcare. You can’t force someone in a free market to do their job. They can refuse for any reason and you can get the fuck out if it bothers you and you aren’t welcome in the community for being a degenerate. Yes I’m well aware this will make it so that liberal cities will no longer serve republicans. That’s what I want. Come home to the country side white man.

The Baker served all customers equally
No customer can order a product that a business does not offer
The Baker does not make gay wedding cakes thus, he can not sell them
Gay people may purchase any cake that he does make
thus there is no discrimination
If you go to a vegetarian restaurant and order a hamburger, they will not refuse you service they will merely refuse to serve you meat, because serving meat is against their beliefs
it is not discrimination

hmm well stated.
However, the time for rhetoric and discussion has passed. This... this is going to be about power.

There really is no debating with sexual sycophants

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The gay couple wasn't refused the ability to buy a cake, the baker just refused the making the gay couple a custom cake. I believe people should have the right to refuse creating anything custom made. Also the bakery wasn't the one available, and wasnt a monopoly.

So in your mind competing over a tiny market share and bankrupting yourself and (if you're lucky) the offending business is the rational and sensible course of action

whatever happened to businesses being able to refuse service to whoever they want? This is something the freemarket can fix

Sorry, meant to post this story:

fwweekly.com/2018/04/11/stacy-baileys-still-out-in-mansfield/

Public school teacher reassigned to a high school because of hateful prejudice against gays teaching young kids.

I think Catholic schools should be shut down. Religion is a harmful, hypocritical bunch of lies, and you petty tyrants will get your dues.

Genetic Evidence of Homosexuality:

archive.is/grwgp

He offered wedding cakes. Cakes cannot be gay. A wedding cake for a black wedding is not thought of as a racially black wedding cake, and nobody at a wedding assumes the baker has personally endorsed their union.

He is in the business of custom wedding cakes. When he refused to do that for a gay couple, that violated state law.

forcing anybody to do anything for the sake of someone else's feelings is wrong
if i dont want to bake a cake, i have no obligation to bake the cake

you fags like all that girly shit - just bake it yourselves. you can dab frosting on each others noses while you do it. stand behind one another with degenerate erections while you mix the dough. joke about how you were molested as children, and how it ultimately worked to bring you together. it will be a blast!

The plaintiff is allegedly a lawyer who might be trying to potentially create precedent and fame too.
The defendant is mostly likely a simple minded person who has a bad lawyer since he's poor.

Man nobody gives a flying fuck about no god damn faggot wedding cake.

Not really. The free market adapts to the circumstances, it doesnt generate an ideal situation. Ideally yes there would be non-discriminatory businesses outcompeting the bakery, but it needs to be possible for that business to exist first. You cant have a lgbt bakery in the middle of nazi germany can you? There is no reason for a bakery to make lgbt cakes if it gets more customers by hosting bi-weekly lynchings.

Post more on social media. Show everyone how gay you are. Post more rainbows.

This is what I look for when I check on potential hires. If I see one fucking rainbow, you're out of the running. If you come out in the workplace... you're out of the workplace. You're disrupting my productivity and you're a liability to my insurance coverage.

The growing percentage of leftists in social media makes it easy to observe and out people. Be louder, be prouder... you deserve it baby.

Just shout it from the mountaintops you crazy shining diamond... Nothings gonna stop you!

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If anything it's just the Catholics whom I wish would drop dead but we can't all get what we wish for.
Christians should be able to peacefully run businesses on a relgious basis.
Weddings are sacred to, well a lot of them, not all.

>"I'm sorry we don't make gay wedding cakes."
how is that illegal?

Imagine if doctors where as self entitled as poltards...

The bakery got so many donations from christians and lobbies that they actually profited from the "ordeal"

Your evidence is shit when the entire premise of your faggotry is built on faggots like Havelock Ellis (a known pedophile and sexual deviant) and Sigmund Freud who was in cahoots with both John Keynes and Ellis to push Bolshevik bullshit into the British Empire as early as 1906. Literally any bullshit propaganda you call "evidence" is built upon their original distortion of "social psychology" and you're just another monkey that danced to the tune straight on your way to Hell. You should humble yourself and learn how to repent for the evil you're a part of. This road only gets way more bumpy from here and you're not on the right track at all.

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If people can discriminate against gay people what will stop Muslims from discriminating against Christians? The government realizes that discrimination is not good for business, if we allow businesses the right to discriminate against groups of people the economy will slow and the government will collect less taxes causing bigger problems. This is a slippery slope that we should not start down. Simple fixes could be made like hiring a gay employee to make the cakes for gay people if you don’t want to.

Under something "sb 200"

You can be gay and get a cake made anywhere. He never refused to bake them a cake. He refused to bake them a specific cake. There's a big difference here. They weren't refused service, they were refused extra service that went against the baker's beliefs.

>Cakes cannot be gay
(pic related)

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He sold cakes that were already made that they could have bought, they wanted him to take the time to make one. You don't have the right to anyone's labor.

Faggots are too triggered and stupid to bake their own cakes, too poor to pay for their AIDS meds and rectal reconstruction surgeries, lesbians are fake and pregnant, bisexuals are just... who cares, tranny's are just unemployable eunuchs, their arguments fall apart when looked at medically, together the whole lgbtbbqwtflol deviants are less than 3% of the population, and yet they still believe they have more rights than me - including the right to harm people without prosecution.

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I would have made them the cake. Only I would have had my kids and everybody I know come in and point and laugh at them and chant faggots faggots faggots faggots.

It would have been humiliating.

that cake is fucking gay.

Medfag here, can you show me any evidence?

"You can't force me to make a cake for people I don't like!"
Sure whatever

"Hey we're going to force you to include search results for people you don't like!"

Wtf happened to government leaving businesses alone? The fucking state of Republicans in 2018.

An unregulated market is an inferior market.

Depends on the industry.

>Drive around harassing cake shops
>Find one that won't bake a gay cake
>Make a scene
>Ruin lives of innocent mom and pop cake shop
Meanwhile people are homeless and shitting in the streets. Fuck this gay Earth.

Medfag here too. Answer: review your anatomy and physiology notes. And psychiatric doesn't count - too subjective.

if a doctor wants to sacrifice his or her good name by refusing to treat someone they are free to do so
free market, free association

Doctors and even the police can already legally refuse to help you and serve you.

lol, I thought so

Which ones, ive done 5 units of anatomy and none where relevent.

Most have ventured past the realm of realistic economic policy (what attracted me in the first place) to a hope that an authoritarian government will come along and force people to be like them. Honestly it’s very sad and disheartening that people would fall for something that was designed to control idiots.

>Gay ID

this post was actually really good.

Any industry can become a monopoly, so every industry needs some level of regulation. Food is another example, if not for government initiatives you would still be eating like its the 90s

Things involving high amounts of human labor need to be regulated. I don't believe the industry of pure software should be.

A vegetarian restaurant does not offer meat. His business offered custom wedding cakes and he refused service on the basis of the couple's sexual orientation, not even getting to discussing what message would be on the cake, if any.

That's a false analogy because he declined service based on the attributes of the customer, rather than the customer requesting something that was not on the menu.

Well, he still does not even sell wedding cakes to my knowledge because he knows the state will fine him if he tried to sell wedding cakes just to straight couples. Even AFTER the Supreme Court ruling he STILL DOES NOT SELL WEDDING CAKES.

So who really won here?

The gay couple picked Masterpiece because it was the closest bakery to the location of their planned wedding reception. They had no idea the owner was Christian and/or hated gays when they walked in. You are full of shit and deliberately spreading misinformation.

It's obvious you are not a medical student or practitioner. Nice try, faggot.

It's very telling that this faggot shill shut the fuck up pretty quick when the homosexual agenda of the Fabians and Keynesian socialists was brought up. Really makes you think.

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How do you know that this isn't a big scheme made up by the gays to destroy the bakery? and can you be 100% certain that they didn't know before hand?

It does not interfere with commerce or cause injury. Unless monopoly, publicly traded company, or utility then a private business should have the right to refuse service.

Agreed

How do you know that this isn't a big scheme made up by the gays to destroy the bakery? and can you be 100% certain that they didn't know beforehand?

You could learn to bake like your mother did, faggot.

Oh wait, your mother was single and a whore.

They knew before hand. No one takes something this trivial up to the Supreme Court without planning it out first.

The bakery PROFITED off of persecuting gays. ALL the businesses that have refused to serve gays have made MORE money from private Christian donations then they have lost from declines in business or fines.

I genuinely doubt they had any idea this guy was a Christian wackjob and they just wanted a place close to their reception location for ease of transport. There's no legitimate reason to be suspicious of them, and that's the official account given in the court documents.

The business is publicly accessible. Privately OWNED but to claim that it doesn't matter if a business is supposed to be open to the general public is willfully ignorant. Publicly open businesses cannot refuse service to protected classes of customers in violation of state law. That's the foundation for public accommodation laws.

Death to all queers.

Is anyone in this thread interested in discussing the topic or are you all just retards that can’t understand discrimination will harm the economy?

I was making a sandwich. Christianity is a bullshit manipulative lie and a scheme to separate people from their own power, property, and money. It is finally being exposed as a harmful lying game and I look forward to the day we finally repeal "freedom of religion" and ban it outright.

>The bakery PROFITED off of persecuting gays.
The bakery actually PROFITED off of the bullying from homosexuals. Big difference.

Typical dumbfuck liberal wanting to ban something so people will kiss his faggot nazi ass.

Wanting a wedding cake for a reception is not bullying. The only people here being coercive are the Christians pushing their hypocritical lies as usual.

Discrimination is part of capitalism. That's what customers do when deciding to buy a product - they discriminate. Idiot.

Didn't the cake owner go bankrupted because he lost the first case and that's why he isn't selling cakes anymore? Not because of a fine and he lost most of his money to a greedy gay couple? Dude I'm a faggot and an artist and if want to refuse to make a custom religious anti-gay theme painting I should have a right to do so. If some christanfag or mudslime wants to buy one of my already made painting they can, but they don't have the right to my labor.

Just a couple of homos wanting to push around christians because they're soft targets. They will never go to a real muslim bakery and pull this shit because they know they'll get fucking killed.

this business didn't refuse to serve the gays and at the time gay marriage wasn't legal in Colorado so the gay couple would have to go out of state. so this place wasn't close to their reception location

Fag here,

probably the dumbest fucking thing to hit the courts in a long time. Seriously, there are tons of people that will take your money. Suck it up and move on to the next baker. Got'damn faggots want to cry over a cake? Jesus that is pathetic.

Using the courts to force others to do your bidding is bullying. There were other options available to the homosexuals than just that Christian baker. Did the baker stop them from accessing a grocery store or online bakery? Did the baker break their hands to prevent them from making one themselves via YouTube instructions?

The baker was targeted and your side thankfully lost.

We may not even need to at this rate...

Only about 20 more years of your retardation, lies, and misguided hatred at this rate :))

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>The bakery PROFITED off of persecuting gays. ALL the businesses that have refused to serve gays have made MORE money from private Christian donations then they have lost from declines in business or fines.
Intent=/=result
That they may have not considered or underestimated the response does not mean that this wasn't deliberate. Also donations are a short term benefit, they won't keep coming forever.
>official account given in the court documents.
Gays are incapable of lying. I never knew that.
Everything I don't like is evil and should be banned.
Everything I do like is a human right and must be paid/enacted by others.

And you faggots discriminate and bully Christians.

If someone walked up to you on the street and told you to bake a cake -- you should have the right to say no.

Freedom of association.

what law can support Phillips aka the baker

But I don't have a religion bunghole. And besides why should anybody bake a cake or in fact do anything for a group of people that support pedophilia?

No! He made hundreds of thousands of dollars in private donations from Christians. He is still selling cakes, just not wedding cakes, because he childishly refuses to sell them to gay people and knows that violates state law. NO business has been forced to close because they refused service to gays and then lost all their business. HAS NOT HAPPENED. He got hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of free legal support, and his business is still open.

They can go to another cake shop

I think a business ought to be able to refuse service to any one for whatever reason they like.

No, he would have sold them a cake.
They wanted a specific cake that he did not offer, like a hamburger, because it was against he beliefs
he did not decline service, he simply declined a specific product which his bakery does not offer
In fact, the went there purposely to target him because he was a Christian
there were plenty of other bakeries that they could have chosen that would have been more than happy to bake them a cake
They chose to persecute him because of his religious beliefs and were also likely motivated by the prospects of a payout from a lawsuit

why would you want a cake from people who don't like you

thanks

can you reply to this post?

So what? People donated the money. You want it confiscated because your precious feelings are hurt?

If he doesnt want to bake a cake he shouldnt have to, it's a private business.
If he facebook doesnt want alex jones on their platform they shouldnt have to. it's a private business.

Simple

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Feelings are meant to be hurt.

They refused to serve them because they were a gay couple. Gay marriage was not legal at the time that's why they were having a reception for local family after a legal wedding in Mass. None of you have ACTUALLY BOTHERED TO READ/SKIM THE FUCKING COURT CASE and make wild, incorrect assumptions about the facts of the case.

A minority group using the courts to seek redemption from persecution at the hands of a giddy majority group is not bullying. Christians have long oppressed gays, and thankfully, that's mostly over. They had no idea he was Christian and just chose the closest baker to their planned wedding reception and it was recommended by one of their moms, I believe.

Good! Christianity is a harmful lie and I hope it finally gets shut down for hurting so many people.

Publicly accessible storefronts are held to public accommodations laws, as with SB 200 in Colorado. People on the street, not so.

The gay people even said they were seeking for a place that wouldnt serve them, they wanted trouble and attention and then got BTFO'd lmao.